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    We the people ... 2011 Bike Park Shootout

    Spring is in the air! The sun is out and if you're here, you love mountain biking! As many of you have heard, the Colorado Front Range is experiencing a Golden Age of riding. With cities like Denver, Boulder, Superior, Lyons, Castle Rock, Colorado Springs, Ft Collins and Golden welcoming Bike Parks with open arms, it's time to compare the features and see who brought the goods!

    For those of you lucky enough to have visited the parks, please give your honest reviews.

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    Child, beginner, intermediate and expert tracks
    Wood features and bridges

    Please share videos and pictures.

    Thanks to all the hard work of the folks that made the new trails possible!

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    Don't forget Castle Rock's Rhyolite Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discodave
    Don't forget Castle Rock's Rhyolite Park.
    Have you ridden it Dave? Mind posting a quick review?

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    Don't forget the Red Rocks Open Space Skills Park in Colorado Springs. It has some really good beginner wooden skinnies, but no advanced freeride features. C-Line is the jump trail there, and there are some big airs for sure on the right line. The left line is good for posuers like me who don't like to get much air but want to try to expand skills. Theoretically they are planning to expand with an intermediate section, but I haven't heard about anything happening for a few years.

    It's a fun break when riding trails in Red Rocks OS, but I wouldn't drive there specifically to ride the skills park. There is lots of parking, but expect the lot to be filled on the weekends by all the rock climbers. Visual appeal is awesome (huge red rocks), and there is a port-o-potty in the park and Rudy's BBQ a block away--what more could you ask for in terms of amenities???

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    Ive hit quite a few of them and i got an eyeball on valmont last week. It wins no contest next question.

    Seriously though. Its the nicest place on earth.
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    apples to oranges

    Quote Originally Posted by jurichar
    Ive hit quite a few of them and i got an eyeball on valmont last week. It wins no contest next question.
    valmont will be killer, no doubt... and this thread is just for fun on the interweb, but just for some context-- the budget for valmont park: $4,000,000+ (yep, that's 6 zeros, though that includes everything, not just bike facilities); cost to build golden bike park: ~$70,000; i suspect lyons came in well under that.

    put another way, the cost for just the parking lot at valmont could fund 3 golden bike parks.

    valmont is gonna be schweet, but definitely in its own league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotdirt
    valmont will be killer, no doubt... and this thread is just for fun on the interweb, but just for some context-- the budget for valmont park: $4,000,000+ (yep, that's 6 zeros, though that includes everything, not just bike facilities); cost to build golden bike park: ~$70,000; i suspect lyons came in well under that.

    put another way, the cost for just the parking lot at valmont could fund 3 golden bike parks.

    valmont is gonna be schweet, but definitely in its own league.
    This is all true, and i definatly didnt mean any disrespect to any of the other parks. I love rhyolite and golden, but im stoked for valmont.

    to prove my love of rhyolite and golden...i'll post pics

    Rhyolite...

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536040285/" title="IMG_0172-1 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5536040285_039b6e1a0c_b.jpg" width="1024" height="683" alt="IMG_0172-1" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536047421/" title="DSC_9604 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5139/5536047421_6b1ac514fd_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="DSC_9604" /></a>

    Golden

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536041013/" title="DSC_0047 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5536041013_d8c685de30_b.jpg" width="583" height="1024" alt="DSC_0047" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536041151/" title="DSC_0055 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/5536041151_f81268c5ce_b.jpg" width="1024" height="681" alt="DSC_0055" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536618842/" title="DSC_0015 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5257/5536618842_4e47c7323f_b.jpg" width="585" height="1024" alt="DSC_0015" /></a>
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    @jurichar -- those pictures are sick. i hope to someday ride as pretty as you do

    and with that being said -- when do you usually ride golden? wouldn't mind stopping by and saying hi //g
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    Quote Originally Posted by gage
    @jurichar -- those pictures are sick. i hope to someday ride as pretty as you do

    and with that being said -- when do you usually ride golden? wouldn't mind stopping by and saying hi //g

    lol gage, i'm taking that as a compliment whether you like it or not . Believe me when i say its the camera not the rider..im a hack .

    I'm out there quite a bit in the mornings before work and the weekends...always random. I'll shoot you a message next time i head out. I've got my heart set on doing a tail whip on jump #5...that'll prove im a hack.
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    @jurichar-
    haha it was meant to be a compliment

    cool.. i have been hitting high resistance training on the stationary bike, but before i bounce outta colorado i'm gonna switch some stuff up and make it there or ryolite in the am for a few hrs a day... need to dial myself in, learn more, ride more, etc... //g
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    Picture 3 of you railing that berm is Bike magazine quality all the way! Is there alot of kids at the parks after school? Does it hinder the enjoyment?


    Quote Originally Posted by jurichar
    This is all true, and i definatly didnt mean any disrespect to any of the other parks. I love rhyolite and golden, but im stoked for valmont.

    to prove my love of rhyolite and golden...i'll post pics

    Rhyolite...

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536040285/" title="IMG_0172-1 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5536040285_039b6e1a0c_b.jpg" width="1024" height="683" alt="IMG_0172-1" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536047421/" title="DSC_9604 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5139/5536047421_6b1ac514fd_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="DSC_9604" /></a>

    Golden

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536041013/" title="DSC_0047 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5536041013_d8c685de30_b.jpg" width="583" height="1024" alt="DSC_0047" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536041151/" title="DSC_0055 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/5536041151_f81268c5ce_b.jpg" width="1024" height="681" alt="DSC_0055" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60720990@N02/5536618842/" title="DSC_0015 by Dooverdixon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5257/5536618842_4e47c7323f_b.jpg" width="585" height="1024" alt="DSC_0015" /></a>

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    IMO bike parks are a more the merrier situation. I've never had trouble with too many kids. Its awesome watching them shred. At golden at least it seems as if most people hang out at the top and watch each others runs more than do shotgun marathon laps. Thanks for the photo props
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    I just got a preview of Superior, and am impressed, especially with how much they built in such a short time. Props to Simcik, Jarod and Lee!
    It's got elements I pushed for at Golden (but wasn't persuasive enough) - table flow lines and a beginner pumptrack. The "pro" pump track that has a super flowy layout in which the berms feel like skatepark bowls - kind of like a miniature version of the chicane on the GBP flowtrail. I think I heard it's supposed to officially open soon (this wkend?).
    I rode there from a friend's house, so can't comment on parking, and there was no signage yet.
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    I love Rhyolite, but those jumps are still beating me. One day I will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbabuser
    I just got a preview of Superior, and am impressed, especially with how much they built in such a short time. Props to Simcik, Jarod and Lee!
    It's got elements I pushed for at Golden (but wasn't persuasive enough) - table flow lines and a beginner pumptrack. The "pro" pump track that has a super flowy layout in which the berms feel like skatepark bowls - kind of like a miniature version of the chicane on the GBP flowtrail. I think I heard it's supposed to officially open soon (this wkend?).
    I rode there from a friend's house, so can't comment on parking, and there was no signage yet.
    Tomorrow is opening day. Tamping session in the morning, riding starts around noon. We need some help to finish it. It came together pretty well and pretty quickly, started on it last Monday, and itll be ready tomorrow with every surface of the park rounded and hardpacked (nice and durable)

    Parking is at the dog park and a short pedal away over the bridge. Signage is going in soon. The city is talking about using soil tack first thing next week to ensure durability of the park.

    The beginner pump track is actually pretty sweet and its stridder approved.
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    It would be cool if someone would write an overall summation of each park and what each offers. I don't really know any of them but Golden and it would be nice to know what they offer so I can make an informed decision about whether to make the drive to ride them..
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    @billybobzia- or you could just visit each one time and make a real decision going forward? i've never been to one that isn't at least fun while i'm there.. //g
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    Bike Park shoot out or not, the fact that we have more riding everywhere is awesome! We can all learn from each other with various elements, and tweak as needed. I will head to Ryolite soon and check out the awesomeness. I'll make it to superior next week. Nice work guys!
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    salut to that ie //g
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    I rode over and checked out Superior BP Tuesday night and was really impressed. There were probably 35 kids old and young but all young at heart having fun on it already. Was pretty cool. I can see why people have specific bikes just for pump tracks and dirt jumping, my reign w/ its soft suspension got a little wobbly a few times. Could be operator error though too.

    The beginner pump track was fun and a surprisingly good workout to fly through for 5 minutes or until you get too much speed.

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    Lory State Park outside Fort Collins has a bike park, but I'm not qualified to review it or compare it with other parks. The one time I rode there I fell five feet off a wooden "skinny" that was at least 12 inches wide.

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
    It would be cool if someone would write an overall summation of each park and what each offers. I don't really know any of them but Golden and it would be nice to know what they offer so I can make an informed decision about whether to make the drive to ride them..
    I will put something together once we get enough reviews coming in from individual riders. I think it's going to be a matter of who is coming in second place as Valmont is going to be tough to beat with all the resources they had available.

    I drove by the Superior bike park on the way home. Can't wait to ride it! I'll post a review when I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gage
    @billybobzia- or you could just visit each one time and make a real decision going forward? i've never been to one that isn't at least fun while i'm there.. //g
    I don't disagree at all.. but curious what each one has so that I know what I might be getting into...
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    Made it out to the Superior Bike Park today. Lee did a great job with limited resources. The trails have great flow.

    Here is a video of Lee riding his pump track.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgh9duoGi68&hd=1

    Parking was good. The included features were: a kids pump track, a full size pump track, beginner dirt jumps and intermediate jumps. All can be rolled over No wooden ramps.

    My only complaints are that there aren't permanent restroom structures and the drinking fountain is about a 5 minute ride.

    My advice if you go:
    1. Bring your own water and lots of it.
    2. Bring a hardtail if you have one.
    3. Fill your tires to at least 40psi.
    4. Lock out your fork and shock or adjust the pressure accordingly.

    I'll take the GoPro when I learn to gain enough speed to clear the jumps.

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    I got out to Superior today as well

    I thought there'd be an informal "ribbon cutting" ceremony but it was more informal than that, like workers tamping down berms at noon.

    A good crowd, very young and adult-sized alike. Here's just a few shots:
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    Nice shots, thanks for the sequence of my 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by simcik
    Nice shots, thanks for the sequence of my 3
    Glad you like those. I had just walked up and you were going for your first 360. I think you landed that one the cleanest (the last pic on this reply I think is your final attempt )

    I have multiple pics of all the grownup riders "going big" as well as everyone else who was riding, but if that crowd is anything like every other group of folks I encounter where there's bikes involved, none have even heard of mtbr (three blank looks the day I was shooting these pics--I'm surprised I got a reply from one of the riders I actually shot riding). So if you know of anyone else who might want a shot of them in action, pm me and I'd be glad to share some. They might make a nice desktop on their computer (but only if I send them a high rez copy).

    I'm hoping to get a bunch of pre-fourth operation Jarod pics to him as well.
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    I was there and would be interested to see some of the pix you might have taken of me...I was on a black bike with red seat. Thanks Chris Schumacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisschu
    I was there and would be interested to see some of the pix you might have taken of me...I was on a black bike with red seat. Thanks Chris Schumacher

    I think I already put up a pic of you. Is this you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisschu
    I was there and would be interested to see some of the pix you might have taken of me...I was on a black bike with red seat. Thanks Chris Schumacher
    Hey Chris,
    It was good to have met you and your kids, you 3 were definitely SMOOTH! Hope to see you at Gunbarrel soon.
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    Thanks Simcik. We will definately come out there. @xcguy yea that's me. The black whit picture in your firstpost is my son Jayden. Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisschu
    Thanks Simcik. We will definately come out there. @xcguy yea that's me. The black whit picture in your firstpost is my son Jayden. Thanks again
    You both looked great out there. I have more pics of both of you, I'll send them off to you at your email address in your pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotdirt
    valmont will be killer, no doubt... and this thread is just for fun on the interweb, but just for some context-- the budget for valmont park: $4,000,000+ (yep, that's 6 zeros, though that includes everything, not just bike facilities); cost to build golden bike park: ~$70,000; i suspect lyons came in well under that.

    put another way, the cost for just the parking lot at valmont could fund 3 golden bike parks.

    valmont is gonna be schweet, but definitely in its own league.
    $70,000? Not sure where that number came from, but more like $30,000 is the real number. Not sure where the other $40,000 came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure
    $70,000? Not sure where that number came from, but more like $30,000 is the real number. Not sure where the other $40,000 came from.
    Oh you know, $40k in donated services. My time is worth $$, b$%^7!!

    Seriously, though, I think I had estimated >$10k worth of surveying alone.
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    ^^ exactly...

    $70K is an approximation of would-be costs (including lotsa in-kind donations).

    note to self: start a heavy equipment rental/lease company!

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    "^^ exactly...

    $70K is an approximation of would-be costs (including lotsa in-kind donations)."

    So with this logic.......Valmont is really $2,000,000? plus it's in kind donations?http://forums.mtbr.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

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    I don't know anything about Valmont finances, but I'm guessing if they've got money to pay for labor, then not a lot of it is being done for free. Same goes for for the new Frisco park...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Bobber
    So with this logic.......Valmont is really $2,000,000? plus it's in kind donations?
    i'm not privy to the financial arrangements of valmont, beyond what is publicly disclosed. i can only speak to GBP, which i may be able to do more accurately after i finish the post-award grant reporting for one of our $upporters.
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    I believe that non-profits have to publish their financials. I could not find them, but Iím sure they are somewhere. It would be interesting to see where the funds came from and how they were dispersed.

    Iím sure someone from BMA, COMBA or the Golden Bike Park Group could answer these questions a little more accurately.

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    You've got 3 out of 4 of the original GBP Group in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DH Dominator
    I believe that non-profits have to publish their financials. I could not find them, but I’m sure they are somewhere. It would be interesting to see where the funds came from and how they were dispersed.

    I’m sure someone from BMA, COMBA or the Golden Bike Park Group could answer these questions a little more accurately.
    I am not affiliated with any of those groups so I cannot speak for them.

    Valmont is a city project, so not sure if it would be considered non-profit. A few details I know. The builders of the singletrack and all jump/freeride/pumptrack features were built by paid professionals who build/ride for their profession. R-Dog built for Semenuk's Disorder 10 section, Goldman and A-Rev have built pro courses all over as have Spangler and Kyle Ebbett. We all know who Eric Carter is, he designed and built the slalom. That said, I do not know what the expense of the park is, but once it opens, it will be clearly apparent why it cost what it did. I am sure the paved parking lots and other amenities were of significant cost plus the landscaping and such.

    Pearl Izumi Donated $30,000, here is an excerpt from a BMA update..."Construction on the bike park is moving along, most of the trails are nearing completion. Local Artist Christian Mueller has installed the concrete and the two support pillars for the podium (Boulder style 5 man). The podium steps are cut stones with a concrete base. Without a doubt, this will be the coolest podium in the world. Thanks to our buds at Pearl Izumi for donating $30,000 to pay for this." To me that seems a bit excessive for a podium, but that's not my call haha

    I spent a week plus building on the Rhyolite flow line with Alpine and the build quality and materials used are top notch. The steel lips with concrete footers are strong and while expensive, will help the park last and stay consistent. As someone who builds lots of dirt jumps, dirt lips require tons of work! I got to spend a day at Valmont with the builders and got to check out the park, nothing short of Whistler and Highland bike parks touch it as far as quality of features and build quality. One of the things that immediately caught my eye was that every single surface of the park is packed extremely well. This prevents damage and increases durability and longevity.

    Alpine Bike Parks had dirt specifically engineered for the site, they had a sifter and spent a bit of money to make the dirt how they did. The reason? It will require less maintenance and be less likely to sustain damage if ridden slightly wet. The metal features for the lips, wall rides, and whaletails along with the cyclocross features are built to last pretty much forever. Sure they are expensive, but this park is literally an example for all parks to be measured by once its complete. They are hiring 4 people to maintain the park and ensure it stays world class.

    Sure the park is expensive, I see that as a positive for the industry. It brings money into our industry and attention to our sport. For Boulder to have a multi-million dollar public bike park, shows other towns and cities what is possible, all of us riders will show that it was a worthy investment with our attendance and excitement about the park. We are all super excited to check it out. Im as anxious as anyone for it to open. I am not trying to take away from any other bike park or say they aren't great, cause they all are. Golden, Lyons, Superior, and Lory were all built by passionate people and are great places for us to be able to go ride, Valmont will just have more and be bigger. The front range has almost as many bike parks now as skate parks, I see that as a huge step towards making MTBing more legitimate in the eyes of towns, cities, and citizens.

    Sorry for the long post, basically I am just super excited about Valmont, I drive by it almost daily and am anxiously awaiting its opening. I hope my little bit of knowledge/insight helps/gets people excited about the park
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    With all these bike parks going in does the front range have the highest concentration of parks in the country? This has got to help sales of DJ bikes

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    Thanks for the info on Valmont. Can't freakin wait to see all that in person.
    Also looking forward to see what Winterpark builds in Denver at Barnum. That could be the start of bike features in every Denver park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DH Dominator
    I believe that non-profits have to publish their financials. I could not find them, but Iím sure they are somewhere. It would be interesting to see where the funds came from and how they were dispersed.

    Iím sure someone from BMA, COMBA or the Golden Bike Park Group could answer these questions a little more accurately.
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    More high flyin'
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    add one more to the mix

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    .And following our will and wind . . .
    . . .We'll ride the spiral to the end
    and may just go where no one's been.

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    I think the Fruita park is the first one to require wills. It must be beastly...
    The final three feature zones of the park will be made from shaped dirt. There will be two pumptracks and two lines of dirt jumps. The advanced pumptrack will be similar to an intermediate set of dirt jumps arranged in circular path. It will require wills to get off of the ground.
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