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    Which 2 bikes for CO?

    Decisions decisions. I haven't been riding my Titus much lately at all. I climb almost as fast on my Enduro, and it descends way better. No fatigue in my arms, which is nice. All of this wouldn't really matter if I didn't have illusions of grandeur of being a downhiller during summer. I took my Enduro to Keystone once last year and could tell it was pushing the limits for that bike.

    So, has anyone else been in my dilemma? What did you decide?

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    I've been through a very similar situation in the last year. I had a Enduro Elite 150mm with a DHX air on back. I thought it rocked coming down the front range, I also rode it at Keystone one day and it did pretty well. It felt sketchy on the double blacks though, not enough slack in the head angle.

    I think it would have been a fine front range bike except for that DHX Air. I don't care what people say about how you can pedal with one of those. Yeah you can, I've rode Apex and Deer Creek with it. But you know what? I was almost always last and people were waiting for me. That's a DH shock.

    I sold my Enduro (it was a size too small too) and I am getting another 6" bike, but it will have a Rock Shox Monarch on back so it will pedal better. While I'm waiting for the parts to come in on the new bike I've been riding my hard tail commuter, its no where near as fun. Yeah I can ride Dakota on it, but it could be a lot more fun with a Float 36 instead of some $89 Marz POS.

    For Keystone I have a full DH bike, I took my Enduro there out of curiosity really, I wanted to see what it could handle. I think the front range is fine on a 6" travel 32 lb bike. As long as you have it set up to pedal decent. If you're riding double blacks at the resorts, its time to get a DH bike
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    fwiw, I'm thinking of a 3 bike* plan...

    1. DH Bike: Uzzi VPX w/slacker dropouts, 42 ;lbs. A bike that will take the abuse of resort/shuttle days...

    2. AM/FR Bike: Trek Remedy, < 31 lbs**. When you have to pedal, but don't want to be limited on the dh. This bike can do anything.

    3. TBD bike used for maximum efficiency from point to point, backcountry travel. Light 29er? XC race bike?... not sure yet...





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    I ride a Yeti 575 as my go to 'trail' bike - obviously handles everything around extremely well. climbs well, fast and sure on the descent.

    I'd like to get a stout DH and/or bigger hit park bike, but the 575 handles everything but the resorts.
    Spiral out, keep going...

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    SS 29r Rigid.

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    What kind of DH bikes do you guys have? I'm going tomorrow to look at a used Bullit. The only thing I'm worried about with a DH bike is that my ego is bigger than my balls, and I won't end up riding that much.

    The more I've been riding my Enduro the more I love it. If you get the seat up high and spin rather than cram on the pedals, the bike climbs just as fast as the Titus really. The other thing about the Titus is that I'm never going to be the fastest guy, so I might as well just be comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitek79
    What kind of DH bikes do you guys have? I'm going tomorrow to look at a used Bullit. The only thing I'm worried about with a DH bike is that my ego is bigger than my balls, and I won't end up riding that much.

    The more I've been riding my Enduro the more I love it. If you get the seat up high and spin rather than cram on the pedals, the bike climbs just as fast as the Titus really. The other thing about the Titus is that I'm never going to be the fastest guy, so I might as well just be comfortable.

    I think you answered your own question. You like the enduro, ride it.

    What are you trying to achieve? If you want optimal times on every ride, then you need a specific bike and specific knowledge of the trail. If you want to have fun, ride what you like.

    For some people riding is about superfast times. For others it's the feeling one gets whe the bike is just the tool that brings a person to a great experience of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitek79
    What kind of DH bikes do you guys have? I'm going tomorrow to look at a used Bullit. The only thing I'm worried about with a DH bike is that my ego is bigger than my balls, and I won't end up riding that much.
    Riding dh is fun, I doubt you'll regret it. It also makes you a much better trail rider. I'd go for something longer, lower and slacker than the Bullit though. ~65 HA and 14" BB....
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    True, but the Titus will keep all my body parts in one piece. I'm not quite so sure a DH bike will!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rungmonkey
    SS 29r Rigid.
    +1, yes, I plan to have several of those, always good to have a backup. Well..I am actually going to try a sus fork here for a few on one but still skeptical on that really...

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    Your Enduro is capable of anything. You can ride it at resorts all year with minor mods (my Dt 420 sl rims lasted about three months, the sidewalls on the s-works eskars are not tough enough for lift served riding, add a Joplin seatpost). You can race it downhill or XC. Obviously, you'll be faster in a DH race with a DH bike or racing XC on your Racer-X. I got rid of my hardtail two months after I got mine. I have no need for a short travel xc bike becuase I don't race Xc and even if I did, I don't make my living doing it. On the other hand, I would like a DH bike because I do race DH occasionally and as good as the Enduro performs, it won't stand up to the repeated pounding it will get as a race bike. Give DH a try if want. You don't need to buy a DH bike just to try it. Use the Enduro. If you addicted to racing DH, sell the RX and buy a DH bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davec113
    ... < 31 lbs**...

    **< 3 does not look like boobs.
    Does to me. Boobs with a dunce hat.

    Why limit yourself to three bikes? That's just silly.
    A trail that’s too difficult wouldn’t exist because it’d never be used. But, trails can exist that’re too difficult for you.

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    Definitely...

    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    it's the feeling one gets when the bike is just the tool that brings a person to a great experience of the world.
    Call it a personal pleasure device!

    If you have fun on your bike, and can keep up with the hoodlums you ride with, 'den 'dats 'da bike 'fer you!!

    I'm glad that I only have one bike, I can barely decide which TRAIL to ride, the permutations involved with multiple bikes would fry my thought-thinker!
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    If you like DH then two bikes is very nice for our area. I have a fat (coil both ends) Ibis Mojo for all my "other riding" and was on a used Intense M1 I picked up from Craigslist at the end of the summer of 2007 for all my DH needs. I only just this winter upgraded it to a new DH bike (I still need to sell my M1 frame and wheelset).

    Last year I pretty much switched to big bike mode for the summer as I started racing the MSC for the first time ever (40+ old slow guys category - insanely fun decision) and for the rest of the year and after work rides my Mojo took me to all sorts of riding trails. This year I am on the big bike much earlier since it is new and shiny.

    If you think you might enjoy DH then keep an eye on craigslist as this time of the year is when a lot of great deals on older frames and parts will start to appear letting you get a good used DH bike for probably under $1500.

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    yeti 575
    spot SS 29er

    SS cross bike commuter thingy

    a DH bike would be fun but I haven't got the fever yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    Why limit yourself to three bikes? That's just silly.
    Yeah! Mr. Full Trucker has stated "the number of bikes you need is n+1, n being the number you currently own". Seems to work for snowboarding too, I'm always looking for another board.
    You have just been mentally Rick Roll'd. Yup you're thinking about it right now aren't you? Don't fight it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitek79
    What kind of DH bikes do you guys have?
    Here's my two, but I'm selling the one on the left. Keep in mind I race DH not just ride resorts.
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    Look at how your bikes are currently set up. If you want the Titus to descend better, get cushy tires, a shorter stem and be able to drop the seat for the way down.
    That being said, I'm a big fan of slack and low. IMO, you can learn to climb on nearly anything (simply move your weight further forward over a shorter stem), but for descending, having your hands far in front of the axle is tough to overcome.

    I currently have 2 duallies - one is 6" travel (gemini), the other is 4.25" travel (spec sx), but both are set up to descend (50mm stems). I actually rode more lift served dh on the sx last year than the gemini. That might've been poor judgement, but it was still fun.
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    Used bikes on Craigslist is my crack. That's where I found the Bullit I'm going to look at tonight. We'll see what it looks like. If it's decent enough, I'll be posting pictures here tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    ...I'm selling the one on the left.
    SPAM! SPAM! OMGBBQSPAMPWNED!
    A trail that’s too difficult wouldn’t exist because it’d never be used. But, trails can exist that’re too difficult for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    Here's my two, but I'm selling the one on the left. Keep in mind I race DH not just ride resorts.
    I'm an XC guy but at races have always noticed DH riders have their seats tilted up. Just curious... why is that??
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitek79
    Used bikes on Craigslist is my crack. That's where I found the Bullit I'm going to look at tonight. We'll see what it looks like. If it's decent enough, I'll be posting pictures here tonight.
    The Bullit will get it done, but it's not a DH bike. If you get into DH then you'll end up wishing you had picked up something with a slacker HA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    SPAM! SPAM! OMGBBQSPAMPWNED!
    I didn't ask any of you buck wonders to buy it
    You have just been mentally Rick Roll'd. Yup you're thinking about it right now aren't you? Don't fight it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bianchimtb
    I'm an XC guy but at races have always noticed DH riders have their seats tilted up. Just curious... why is that??
    Its a delicate balance between hitting your tire on the seat (tilted too far back) and catching the goods when you've got your butt over your rear axle (titled too far forward).
    You have just been mentally Rick Roll'd. Yup you're thinking about it right now aren't you? Don't fight it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    Here's my two, but I'm selling the one on the left. Keep in mind I race DH not just ride resorts.
    Diggin the Commencal Ithnu.. nice build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thump
    Diggin the Commencal Ithnu.. nice build.
    Thanks! I just got word, the DHX 5 is on its way. And the Stroker Aces went on last week. I just need to get some different tires on there and it'll be all set
    You have just been mentally Rick Roll'd. Yup you're thinking about it right now aren't you? Don't fight it.

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    How do I change the name of this thread? Edit needs to be which 3 bikes for CO?



    $700, so I'm happy!

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    [QUOTE=hitek79]How do I change the name of this thread? Edit needs to be which 3 bikes for CO?[QUOTE]

    Why stop at 3 you need a weapon for every situation

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    Well I'm at 4 bikes now including my road bike, and my wife hasn't started complaining, so I might just keep going!

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    Nice looking Bullit.
    I love my Enduro - the adjustable travel E150 fork has a rep for spotty reliability, but mine has held up well and the change between 4.5" to 6" make climbing/descending almost like having two different bikes on the same ride ... spin that angle with your wife if you start catching heat
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    So I guess the obvious question needs to be asked?

    Where do I park to shuttle Apex

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitek79
    So I guess the obvious question needs to be asked?

    Where do I park to shuttle Apex
    PM'd ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitek79
    So I guess the obvious question needs to be asked?

    Where do I park to shuttle Apex
    seeya next week

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    htek79 - I think it's obvious that you need several more bikes for Colorado:

    1. Rigid SS 29er
    2. Dirtjump
    3. Cross Bike
    4. Full-on DH rig
    5. Mountain Unicycle
    6. Stryder

    Oh, and can't wait for the Apex Shuttle bus to get going!

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    Well I pedaled that big SOB about half way up Apex today. That's all my legs could handle. It actually pedals pretty nice, but damn it's heavy. Coming down was like riding on a cloud though!

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    the more you pedal that Bullit up, the better the beer tastes at the bottom
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    The absolute minimum 2 bike quiver is:

    Off road
    On road

    Seems like a lot of downhill riders here. That should add 1-2 bikes to your quiver. Otherwise it's hard to avoid redundancy if you're a XC/AM rider. Personally, the pure XC bikes are too narrowly focused unless you're a racer. The trail/AM bikes pedal so well that you could occasionally race those. I decided to get a SJ Pro Carbon as a good compromise. You gotta have a 29er singlespeed in the quiver.

    My XC/AM quiver:
    - 5in Travel FS bike
    - 29er Singlespeed front suspension bike geared for climbing
    - 29er Singlespeed rigid geared for flats/rolling hills/buff trails/casual riding
    - road bike for when the trails are snowed in
    - 26er rigid multi-speed beater bike that you won't cry over if it gets stolen

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    Trek EX9
    Turner DHR

    would be about optimum imo

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    Five bikes for me.. I will be downsizing to 3 this summer though. Unfortunately I am moving out of Colorado so I will be unloading the DH rig. Selling the BMX because I don't ride it enough.

    Three would be the absolute minimum for me though. That would leave me with the trail bike, the DJ hardtail, and the road bike.
    BMX: '00 S&M DBC
    Hardtail: '04 Norco Sasquatch
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    Road: '01 Giant TCR2
    Trail: '08 Rocky Mtn Slayer 70

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    I'm out of garage space, so I'm sticking with 4 bikes for now. Unless I sell one of my wifes......

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    i was just going to post my two bikes that get ridden the most

    1. Roscoe III
    2. Scott Spark

    but if we're going to get the thread rolling like this. If you open my garage, you'll also finid...

    3. GF Rig 29r SS....which at the moment has a bontrager switchblade rigid fork
    4. Santa Cruz Bullit
    5. Another Scott Spark. anybody want to buy it
    6. Mongoose Solution Pro BMX...FROM BACK WHEN MONGOOSE WAS COOL
    7. Some ti/carbon dura-ace road bike that just hangs there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packfill
    5. Another Scott Spark. anybody want to buy it
    the 40 or the 10?
    If 40, what size, year, how much, etc?
    PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckjoga
    The absolute minimum 2 bike quiver is:

    Off road
    On road
    Nope.

    Absolute minimum is a 1 bike quiver. Put slicks on to ride the road (heaven forbid).

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    These are mine

    Plus one not in the picture (old hardtail) that is mainly for pulling the kids in a trailer.

    1. Road bike (that I sort of race)
    2. Cross bike (that I race)
    3. 5" FS that I don't race.
    4. HT beater (potential SS?)

    If $$ was no option:

    1. Road bike (the one I have)
    2. Cross bike ( a much better one, maybe actually 2 CX bikes)
    3. a 6" FS
    4. a 4" FS XC race rig (titus racerx-type thingy)
    5. a SS HT29er

    I don't think I could possible ride any more bikes than that... not if I wanted to see my family and stay married.
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