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    Contemplating an upgrade to the Niner WFO. It has the Monarch RT3 with high volume air can. At 325 lbs, I'm worried that the high volume won't be good, plus the max pressure is 275 psi. I'll be running close to 300 psi. Anybody have experience with the RT3 and can i put a low volume air can on it or add spacers inside to take up air volume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch1413 View Post
    Contemplating an upgrade to the Niner WFO. It has the Monarch RT3 with high volume air can. At 325 lbs, I'm worried that the high volume won't be good, plus the max pressure is 275 psi. I'll be running close to 300 psi. Anybody have experience with the RT3 and can i put a low volume air can on it or add spacers inside to take up air volume?
    Never used one but RS definitely makes tuning kits for it to adjust volume.

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    6ft tall, 280 lbs
    Ride1 Superfly 100 Elite: Fork(100mm rp2) is at 160 psi, Rear shock at 260 psi.(Prefer the easy approach to getting the suspension dialed over the DRCV. Ride quality is better then the Rumblefish for now)

    Ride 2 Rumblefish Pro: Fork (120mm DRCV) is at 170 psi, Rear shock at 300 psi( Still playing with the pressures due to harsh small bump compliance.

    Bought a Superfly 100 elite 3 months ago and found that when doing 2-3ft drops and mashing up hills that I was breaking chains and loosening the rear hub due to flex of the rear triangle; broke 6 chains in consecutive rides. Ended up buying a Rumblefish Pro with 142 dropouts and more travel and haven't broken a chain since. The Pro isn't dialed in as of yet, but feel confident that the mentioned pressures above will be close with tweaks to the rebound dials. May sound weird but I prefer the ride of the Superfly over the Rumblefish but its been nice not having to walk back the car. Will eventually convert to 142 on the Elite but for now my wallet is full of holes.

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    I'm a 350 lb guy ride hard tail because of that with a modified suspension seat post but I'm switching to a a rear suspension bike also I do maintenance work for a Steel Mill and my idea that I'm gona try is to modify a air suspension shock with brackets to run a coil over it. I'm gona give it a shot and I'll let you unz no how it works out as for the suspension seat post I modified it just by pulling it apart and stuffing old inner tubes in with coil spring believe it or not worked great for last year and I ride bout 10 miles a day.

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    Oh, you gotta show me a pic of that contraption.
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    Oh, you gotta show us a pic of that contraption!
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    Quote Originally Posted by t51rmkiv View Post
    6ft tall, 280 lbs
    Ride1 Superfly 100 Elite: Fork(100mm rp2) is at 160 psi, Rear shock at 260 psi.(Prefer the easy approach to getting the suspension dialed over the DRCV. Ride quality is better then the Rumblefish for now)

    Ride 2 Rumblefish Pro: Fork (120mm DRCV) is at 170 psi, Rear shock at 300 psi( Still playing with the pressures due to harsh small bump compliance.

    Bought a Superfly 100 elite 3 months ago and found that when doing 2-3ft drops and mashing up hills that I was breaking chains and loosening the rear hub due to flex of the rear triangle; broke 6 chains in consecutive rides. Ended up buying a Rumblefish Pro with 142 dropouts and more travel and haven't broken a chain since. The Pro isn't dialed in as of yet, but feel confident that the mentioned pressures above will be close with tweaks to the rebound dials. May sound weird but I prefer the ride of the Superfly over the Rumblefish but its been nice not having to walk back the car. Will eventually convert to 142 on the Elite but for now my wallet is full of holes.
    Are you sure you are measuring the chain length properly? That seems odd. I don't know much about Treks ABP, do they have much chain growth throughout the suspension travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t51rmkiv View Post
    6ft tall, 280 lbs
    Ride1 Superfly 100 Elite: Fork(100mm rp2) is at 160 psi, Rear shock at 260 psi.(Prefer the easy approach to getting the suspension dialed over the DRCV. Ride quality is better then the Rumblefish for now)

    Ride 2 Rumblefish Pro: Fork (120mm DRCV) is at 170 psi, Rear shock at 300 psi( Still playing with the pressures due to harsh small bump compliance.

    Bought a Superfly 100 elite 3 months ago and found that when doing 2-3ft drops and mashing up hills that I was breaking chains and loosening the rear hub due to flex of the rear triangle; broke 6 chains in consecutive rides. Ended up buying a Rumblefish Pro with 142 dropouts and more travel and haven't broken a chain since. The Pro isn't dialed in as of yet, but feel confident that the mentioned pressures above will be close with tweaks to the rebound dials. May sound weird but I prefer the ride of the Superfly over the Rumblefish but its been nice not having to walk back the car. Will eventually convert to 142 on the Elite but for now my wallet is full of holes.
    This sounds like you're running your fork psi at a really unsafe setting. I think the max psi for those forks is around 135 if I'm not mistaken. I'm taller and bigger than you and I run my 34 Talas 140 on my WFO at around 100psi (max is 115) and my recently custom tuned 36 Float 160 at 95psi (max 105). When I ran my old 32 Talas 110/140 at 150psi it blew out on me (and sent me flying over the handlebars down the hill). Anyway, just thought I'd give my 2 cents. As for your shocks psi's, sounds about right for the bikes' suspension design and your weight. I had a GF Hifi 29er and found it just didn't handle my weight.

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    By the way, thought I'd mention this in this thread as it seems appropriate. As I just wrote, I just got my '12 36 Float 160 custom tuned for my weight. What was interesting is that I called Push to talk to them about it as they'd done a fork for me before. They ended up refusing me service because they said I was too heavy for what they could do for me. So, for you 300+ guys who might want a custom-tuned fork/shock, I called up and used Suspension Experts. They weren't afraid to work with me and one of their techs is a big rider at 270 so they know how to make things work for heavy riders. I only have a couple of rides on the fork, and it's definitely better than before and I'm can run it way under the max psi. I have it around 95psi now (105psi is the max) and I think I still need to drop the pressure even more. And at that psi I have almost no break dive, which is awesome. Before, with the sag set up right, I had way too much break dive, so to compensate I had to run around max psi but then only got 3-4" of travel and had a harsh ride.

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    Updates from people? New bikes to talk about? I think i am finally in the position to buy....
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    I'm down to 275lbs from 280~ and don't have any issues riding my factory 2007 KHS XC104 (FS). I couldn't tell you any specs since I bought it used and liked the way it was set up from the start. Anyhow, it's heavy but it rides nice and handles my abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    Updates from people? New bikes to talk about? I think i am finally in the position to buy....
    Hey Knight it's been a while. What are you looking for now, 29er, 26"? How much are you looking to spend?

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    29er for sure, but budget depends on what I want to do.

    Option 1: Buy a hardtail for ~$2K to ride to lose more weight.
    Option 2: Use up to $4K to build a bike exactly how I would want.

    Obviously option 2 sounds better, but there are 2 "problems" with it.

    1. I am still leary of a FS at my weight (308) since I won't use a full on DH/AM bike like a WFO in my area... I really just need/want a good 100-120mm which mould be more than I would every really use where I live... we don't have mountains in North Texas.
    2. The "dream" build would take months to complete. I am "eyeing" the Niner RIP9 from Jenson as my base if I go this route. Get the frame/fork while they are on sale and build over winter to ride in the spring.

    Going with a hardtail means I get a complete bike for about the price of the frame which means I can ride it NOW instead of waiting, but will I be happy with that decision? Part of the problem is that I have no idea how much I rely on my softtail right now. Since I ride a 26" Trek STP200 (carbon softtail frame with 1" of rear travel), I really don't know how much BITE is being taken out by the rear end. I have no issues riding until my legs got nothing left right now, but would a true hardtail leave my back out first? If there were a good 29" version of an air sprung softtail, I would probably pick it since this is what I know.

    To build my "dream" RIP9 (which mind you, I have NEVER ridden a 29er much less a RIP), I take some risks. The most obvious is that I have never ridden a 29er. That means I have ridden a 26" bike for my whole life.... but since I took an 11year break (2000-2011), I don't exactly have a bunch of mad skillz based around a 26" wheel.... no talent hack sums it up. My method of riding may resemble more of a steamroller than any of those graceful bike videos.

    This is a HUGE amount of money to divert out of our budget, but my wife is pretty adament that I should spend the money on something that I will get a lot of use out of AND ends up being healthy for me. Now that we can actually spend the money, I am just scared as hell that I am going to spend it wrong.
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    I don't know if you can go wrong with the RIP 9 and there's a bunch of sales on the right now. Guess it just depends on how you plan on riding your bike. If you're just going to be cruising smooth, flowy, XC stuff to get into shape, then a hard tail would be fine. I'm actually surprised these days how many people around where I live are riding hard tail 29ers with 100mm travel fork. There's a ton of them around. If you want to push your bike a bit more, then a RIP 9 is the way to go. Only bad thing I've seen about the RIP's is Sasquatch who's on here busted a frame a couple months ago. Niner replaced it, but still not ideal. There's also so many threads on here about 26" vs 29" and I like both, but if you're as much as a steamroller as you stated above, a 29er, in my opinion, is the way to go, and maybe a hard tail 29er? Jenson also has a killer price on the '11 Niner Air 9 frames right now.

    As for original topic of this thread, thought I'd share my recent issues. On my WFO, my 34 Talas got sent back into Fox to have the uppers replaced last month. Some weird popping noises developed and it was from the stanchions not fitting perfectly into the crown. And now my DHX Air 5 is heading back to Fox because after I had the guy at my LBS change the seals and oil for me, it continues to leak a ton of oil. Not great, but at least it's under warranty. Does have me thinking I may need to start considering a coil shock.

    My last post on this thread I mentioned the tuning I had done on my 36 Float and it's still amazing. It's made the bike so much more fun to ride! For you larger clydes, if Push refuses you service, definitely check out Suspension Experts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    Are you sure you are measuring the chain length properly? That seems odd. I don't know much about Treks ABP, do they have much chain growth throughout the suspension travel.
    Sorry for the long delay in responding.
    Im not really sure, nor did I measure the chain, LBS performed all maintenance. The bike was taken to several bike shops for a fresh perspective but no dice. In hind site a combination of the rear flexing and rough gear changes was mostly likely the culprete. Still havnt had an isse with Rumblefish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    29er for sure, but budget depends on what I want to do.

    Option 1: Buy a hardtail for ~$2K to ride to lose more weight.
    Option 2: Use up to $4K to build a bike exactly how I would want.

    Obviously option 2 sounds better, but there are 2 "problems" with it.

    1. I am still leary of a FS at my weight (308) since I won't use a full on DH/AM bike like a WFO in my area... I really just need/want a good 100-120mm which mould be more than I would every really use where I live... we don't have mountains in North Texas.
    2. The "dream" build would take months to complete. I am "eyeing" the Niner RIP9 from Jenson as my base if I go this route. Get the frame/fork while they are on sale and build over winter to ride in the spring.

    Going with a hardtail means I get a complete bike for about the price of the frame which means I can ride it NOW instead of waiting, but will I be happy with that decision? Part of the problem is that I have no idea how much I rely on my softtail right now. Since I ride a 26" Trek STP200 (carbon softtail frame with 1" of rear travel), I really don't know how much BITE is being taken out by the rear end. I have no issues riding until my legs got nothing left right now, but would a true hardtail leave my back out first? If there were a good 29" version of an air sprung softtail, I would probably pick it since this is what I know.

    To build my "dream" RIP9 (which mind you, I have NEVER ridden a 29er much less a RIP), I take some risks. The most obvious is that I have never ridden a 29er. That means I have ridden a 26" bike for my whole life.... but since I took an 11year break (2000-2011), I don't exactly have a bunch of mad skillz based around a 26" wheel.... no talent hack sums it up. My method of riding may resemble more of a steamroller than any of those graceful bike videos.

    This is a HUGE amount of money to divert out of our budget, but my wife is pretty adament that I should spend the money on something that I will get a lot of use out of AND ends up being healthy for me. Now that we can actually spend the money, I am just scared as hell that I am going to spend it wrong.
    I think you can get a 29er squishy cheaper than that...then have something left over to get another bike. Do you just like the RIP? Or do you think it suits you like no other?
    I picked up a 2009 GT Marathon 9r frame for $159 from Nashbar. Definitely not on the same level as a RIP, but enough to wet my feet in the 29er squishy water.Sounds like you're trying to build the best bike ultimately for you though.I would divide the RIP money,and get two bikes.
    ...but that's just my .02.
    My frame was on sale at Nashbar during a "warranty frame" warehouse cleanout Nashbar does about once a year or from time to time.Have you considered any other frames for a 29er build? hammerheadbikes.com has some good deals sometimes...including Niner.
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    If I were to divide for 2 bikes, one would be road and one mountain, but this isn't like I have been given $4K to spend, I can spend up to $4K on a single bike. Remember, this is my wife I am dealing with... I am not going to stretch the offer too far less I not get an offer like this again in the future I am also considering many other bikes, the RIP9 just stands out right now... not set on it at all though.
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    As of right now, there is a delay of game. One of the bikes I really want to test is not available and won't be in shop until late November/early December. So now I must wait.... impatiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    As of right now, there is a delay of game. One of the bikes I really want to test is not available and won't be in shop until late November/early December. So now I must wait.... impatiently.
    just hang in there and read the forums....things change all the time.
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    I know. I really want to take one of the new Cambers out for a test ride before dropping coin. I am thinking with a Camber Comp Al, I should be able to get my wife a new bike to come out with me.... that would make this MUCH better.
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    I ride a Foes XCT 5 and the curnutt shock it the best shock I have used. It is a very large volume shock. A RP23 is a joke sitting next to it. I put 150 psi geared up in it. My old Chumba with an RP23 was at least 100 more psi. Look to see if you can find one used with the Curnutt XTD air shock.

    A good thing also is to send the shock in and Foes will tune the shock to your weight and riding style which is 90% of the setup.

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    You all are just a bunch of pigs and need to go to the FAT FARM!

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    Somebody needs a hug.
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    I have 2 bikes:
    2011 Giant Reign, 6" trail/AM bike
    2012 Specialized Camber 29er
    I've been riding the Reign for a few years now, it has a FOX RP23 (upgraded from a RP2) that I need to put 300 psi in for proper sag
    I just bought the Camber which has a Rockshox ArioRL. Only needs 200 psi to get the sag correct.
    Interesting how the different bikes with their different pivot points have such different psi needs.
    I'm 275 plus gear BTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Realslowww View Post
    You all are just a bunch of pigs and need to go to the FAT FARM!
    Definitely could use a hug because this was the thread he started last week:

    Clyde needs a good 29er to jump, 300 pounder

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    I'm solid muscle, it's just that I carry a 100 of it around my middle

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    hi leverage or low leverage?

    I would have started a new thread but, I need more post. So here is what I am purchasing with parts specs. Let me know your opinions and suggestions for a full suspension clydesdale rig(360 pounds of muscle
    I will be doing a mix of riding from around local flat parks(got to build endurance), to trails (hey I have to have fun)and when the weight falls offand my skill sets are good( just a little downhill)
    And yes I know it is heavy, just like the owner. I think it will help me loose weight faster.

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    EASTON CARBON EC70 HANDLEBAR
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    FOX VANILLA RLC 140MM OF TRAVE(I will have to change springs)
    REAR SHOCK: VANILLA COIL OVER WITH REMOTE RESEVOIR, EXTERNAL ADJUSTMENT(COMPRESSION, REBOUND, AND PRELOAD)(I will have to change springs)
    CHRIS KING HUBS, MAVIC RIM F219 DISC RIM
    HAYES MAG CARBON BRAKES
    CHRIS KING HEADSET WITH CARBON SPACERS
    XTR 9 SPEED SHIFTER(REAR ONLY( I am adding a ring in front, front shifter and a Front derailleur)
    XTR REAR DERAILLEUR
    XT CRANK, WITH MRP CHAIN GUIDE
    AZONIC PEDALS
    XTR 9 SPEED REAR CASSETTE( I think it has titanium large rings?)
    YETI LOCK ON GRIPS
    EASTON CARBON SEATPOST(Changing to thomson)
    SPG SADDLE

    LBS is working on getting springs to set up for my weight.
    Anybody likes the components?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cellcaset View Post
    I would have started a new thread but, I need more post. So here is what I am purchasing with parts specs. Let me know your opinions and suggestions for a full suspension clydesdale rig(360 pounds of muscle
    I will be doing a mix of riding from around local flat parks(got to build endurance), to trails (hey I have to have fun)and when the weight falls offand my skill sets are good( just a little downhill)
    And yes I know it is heavy, just like the owner. I think it will help me loose weight faster.

    2006 INTENSE UZI

    SIZE: MEDIUM
    PARTS:
    EASTON CARBON EC70 HANDLEBAR
    RACEFACE DIABLO STEM
    FOX VANILLA RLC 140MM OF TRAVE(I will have to change springs)
    REAR SHOCK: VANILLA COIL OVER WITH REMOTE RESEVOIR, EXTERNAL ADJUSTMENT(COMPRESSION, REBOUND, AND PRELOAD)(I will have to change springs)
    CHRIS KING HUBS, MAVIC RIM F219 DISC RIM
    HAYES MAG CARBON BRAKES
    CHRIS KING HEADSET WITH CARBON SPACERS
    XTR 9 SPEED SHIFTER(REAR ONLY( I am adding a ring in front, front shifter and a Front derailleur)
    XTR REAR DERAILLEUR
    XT CRANK, WITH MRP CHAIN GUIDE
    AZONIC PEDALS
    XTR 9 SPEED REAR CASSETTE( I think it has titanium large rings?)
    YETI LOCK ON GRIPS
    EASTON CARBON SEATPOST(Changing to thomson)
    SPG SADDLE

    LBS is working on getting springs to set up for my weight.
    Anybody likes the components?
    Looks like a solid build to me. I'm interested to see what kind of coils you can find.

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    I will let you know as soon as LBS tells me.

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    Looks like a good set up if you plan on going down more than up or flat. Given the geometery it looks like that is going to be a bit of a slow roller. You will definitely build endurance pedaling that thing.

    Someone (I don't recall the manufacturer) makes a 700lb coilspring, and that is likely what you are going to need. I have one on my Niner WFO mounted on a Marzocchi Rocco RC, and it holds me up when I'm in the 330lb range. Unfortunately, I think that extra heavy coil is also the reason I've broken the frame. While the WFO suspension is set up totally different than the Uzzi, one thing to consider is that the higher rated coil spring will transfer even more force on the various suspension components. I think the Uzzi's set up is probably better suited to those extra forces than the WFO, but still something to keep in mind.

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    coil

    Lbs got me the max that he could get, it is rated at 800. So that is what I will start with. I will pick up bike next Thursday, so I will see how it feels and let you guys know.

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    here is a picture

    It also has Tioga DH 2.5 tires, heavy duty bike.
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    Rented an XL 2012 Camber 29 (lowest model) yesterday to try out this FS thing. To say th eleast, I am sold. I also think the Camber would be more than capable of standing up to the trails in my area and can handle the weight.

    For reference, I set the rear shock at 245psi (extrapolated from Specialized's set up guide) and never used full travel. I only used about half travel even with jumping up and down on the bike. Seems that there is hope after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    Rented an XL 2012 Camber 29 (lowest model) yesterday to try out this FS thing. To say th eleast, I am sold. I also think the Camber would be more than capable of standing up to the trails in my area and can handle the weight.

    For reference, I set the rear shock at 245psi (extrapolated from Specialized's set up guide) and never used full travel. I only used about half travel even with jumping up and down on the bike. Seems that there is hope after all.
    Sounds great, I knew you've been looking for a while now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJZ74 View Post
    Sounds great, I knew you've been looking for a while now.
    My cat went to the vet ICU Friday night (and it still there right now), so the bike thing is postponed a bit. It is probably a good thing because the bikes I really want to look at keep getting delayed. I am really interested in checking out a Trek SF100 Pro now since the leverage ration on the SF100 is nearly identical to the Camber I rode....
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    I'm riding an airborne zeppelin elite with a fox float 32 @ 160psi and a rock shox bar 2.1 @ 220 psi

    Rides great. Use 3/4 of travel on the rear and roughly half on the front. I could air down a little but I prefer a little harder suspension. I'm at 280lbs

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    Finally have my field narrowed down to just 2 and 1 of them will be ordered this coming Saturday. Since I wanted to stick with my LBS for the purchase, I did cross off the RIP9 finally. I will be testing both a Rumblefish Elite and a Stumpjumper FSR Elite 29 this Friday. Thinking about it over night and then Saturday I am taking my wife up there to get her fit a little better on her bike and will be ordering my decision (neither are in stock in the right size and trim level).

    And yeah, took my wife out to ride on the dirt yesterday (first time she has ever been on dirt) and she really liked it. I am anticipating buying her a FS bike in the spring to keep riding with me... she is tiny though, so the choice will probably be a bit harder since she can ride anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    Finally have my field narrowed down to just 2 and 1 of them will be ordered this coming Saturday. Since I wanted to stick with my LBS for the purchase, I did cross off the RIP9 finally. I will be testing both a Rumblefish Elite and a Stumpjumper FSR Elite 29 this Friday. Thinking about it over night and then Saturday I am taking my wife up there to get her fit a little better on her bike and will be ordering my decision (neither are in stock in the right size and trim level).

    And yeah, took my wife out to ride on the dirt yesterday (first time she has ever been on dirt) and she really liked it. I am anticipating buying her a FS bike in the spring to keep riding with me... she is tiny though, so the choice will probably be a bit harder since she can ride anything.
    That's awesome! Glad to see you've narrowed it down and will be making a purchase. Let us know how the test ride goes on each, I'm curious to see which bike you end up with (both are great bikes).
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    [QUOTE=Knight511;9955901]Finally have my field narrowed down to just 2 and 1 of them will be ordered this coming Saturday. Since I wanted to stick with my LBS for the purchase, I did cross off the RIP9 finally. I will be testing both a Rumblefish Elite and a Stumpjumper FSR Elite 29 this Friday.

    Hey Knight. I was thinking about your last post a couple of days ago while on a ride. I'm sure if I looked at the rest of this thread I'd probably find how much you weigh, but I can't remember off the top of my head. I mention this because both of these bikes' designs aren't all that good for guys over 250. I know this because I had a '10 Fisher HiFi and a '10 Speshy Stumpjumper FSR 26". I spoke directly with a suspension guy at Specialized when I sent my shock in for their S-tune program and he told me that they only design their bikes with a 250lb upper limit. He told me this because when he tuned my shock, he really had no clue on what would work because it was way over anything they'd ever done before. I really liked that bike too, but it was either lots of pedal strikes or so stiff that it was painful to ride. Granted, the one you want to try is a 29er and it may be better, but who knows?

    As for the Rumblefish, I realize it's a bit burlier than the HiFi was and has a bit more travel, but at over 300lbs on my HiFi, I had a horrible time with constant peddle strikes. I mean I bashed the hell out of my pedals, cranks and feet from time to time. When I called Push to ask them if they would tune my shock for me, their reply email was "get another bike with a better suspension design". I also blew 3 rear hubs on my HiFi in the first 6 months. If you're not going to be pushing it at all and just cruising around on relatively flat terrain, then either of these will probably work just fine for you. But, if you ever push yourself and start to push the bike, it may not be the best choice in the long run.

    I don't mean to be a total buzz kill. I just spent a bunch of money on two bikes, the HiFi first and then I bought the Stumpy because I kept breaking the first and wanted something to fill in and they both ended up broke all the time and in the shop. Just thought I'd throw it out there because it sucks to spend a lot of money on nice bikes and then find out it's not what will work. Most bike shops have no clue about what will work for big guys and are only out for to make a buck, which I learned the hard way.

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    Judging from company's reps, I wouls say a GT full suspension bike would prolly be good for Clyde riders.From what I've heard...GT tends to overbuild their bikes sometimes...so judging from that,I'd say they might be worth a look.I have a 2009 GT Marathon 9er and a 2009 GT Marathon Sport 26er frame, and neither one looks like they will give me any problems once they are built up.I don't have much experience with full suspension bikes though...it's just that the GT's look pretty strong and beefy.
    ...Hope they will be.
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    @masonmoa... I am afraid that I will find that you are more than right. I am just very impatient right now.... been waiting for over a year to get a new bike. It doesn't help that I am pretty positive that my current bike is just too small for me... patience is not a virtue I carry.
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    Another bike that is interesting to me is the Salsa Horsethief 1. Fox 34 up front, Reverb seatpost and a lower leverage ratio.... but it is another one of those bikes nobody carries around here...
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    Alright, the results from today's playing (some are no real surprise to any of us):

    2013 Stumpy FSR 29: Too much squish. Even with me set up with the "auto-sag" set correctly, I blew through 2/3 of the travel just dropping off a curb seated. And the bike is WAY too plush for an XC guy that has spent his whole life on hard/soft tails. Conclusion: Not a super-clyde friendly bike.

    2012 Rumblefish Elite: Didn't even ride it. With the shock set at max pressure, I was still sagging down somewhere between 40-50%. As much as I love Trek, the RF is not the bike either. Conclusion: Not a super-clyde friendly bike.

    2013 Epic Comp: Didn't even ride it. With the shock set at max pressure, I was still sagging down somewhere between 40-50%. Conclusion: Not a super-clyde friendly bike.

    2013 Camber Comp: Strange things happen on the Camber. I did ride it, but I had the PSI less in it than any other bike. Still used 2/3 travel, but it felt MUCH better. I am going to try it out again tomorrow with more air in the shock. Conclusion: I like the Camber and will play some more with it tomorrow.

    2013 Camber Comp Carbon: Why is there no discussion of this bike? 260psi and I barely sag 25% (MAYBE!). Very nice solid feel.... doesn't use more than half the travel even with me bouncing on the thing. The carbon version has a different swing arm set up.... and as it turns out, it is really quite super-clyde friendly. Conclusion: Probably "the" bike unless the aluminum version falls more in line tomorrow.

    This shouldn't be a surprise though. I rented a 12 Camber 29 (base model) and really enjoyed it. Used no more than 50% of the travel on my normal loop. 2012 aluminum frame uses the same swing arm as the 13 carbon. Yes, the bike leans a bit more towards XC, but this is NORTH TEXAS... we are not known for our mountains, so I kind of lean towards XC in my riding style any way.

    I really like the carbon because the rear shock does not use a "specialized" mounting style, it is normal eyelet-to-eyelet, so it would be upgradable in the future if I needed/wanted. The only real draw back is that the carbon is $1K more than aluminum, but it also comes with a better shock/fork set up and is lighter (carbon, duh! ).

    Both are in stock at the warehouse. One more round of playing tomorrow.

    I would highly encourage any big dudes to check out the Cambers though... they are MUCH nicer for us big dudes than the other Spec' FS bikes.
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    Correction: The Camber Carbon I rode was tagged 2013, but it was a 2012. Hmmm.... makes the $$$ a bit harder to think about. The 2013 comes with a Reba instead of the Fox Float up front... and the 2013 drive train is Shimano based instead of the 2012's SRAM.
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    I totally agree about the Camber.
    I recently got a '12 camber 29er with the cheapo Rockshox Ario, and for XC it works like a dream for me @ 270 pounds. I think I keep it at 225 psi, and haven't bottomed it out yet on rough rocky AZ trails.

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    Try a Foes with a Curnutt Air shock, you will not go through the travel. The shock has alot more volume than a fox. I weigh in at 250 not geared up and only put in 125 lbs in the shock and it works great.

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    Foes doesn't offer XL so the frames are kind of small for me. That and there aren't any dealers to even hope to get a test fit on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    I totally agree about the Camber.
    I recently got a '12 camber 29er with the cheapo Rockshox Ario, and for XC it works like a dream for me @ 270 pounds. I think I keep it at 225 psi, and haven't bottomed it out yet on rough rocky AZ trails.
    That is the bike I actually "test rode." The Camber 29 ("base" model) handled me really quite well. I enjoyed the ride and it is responsible for me wanting a FS bike.
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