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    Need some advice getting started again

    Looking for some advice from all the experts on this forum
    Want to get back into biking after a 15 year 'break' and 80 pounds(5'7'' and 240lbs) .
    Live in NYC so will probably be doing lots of street riding and some trails (it's NYC so donít expect anything like I used to right upstate) on the weekends.

    Used to ride a 1994 Stumpy Cro-Mo hardtail. I pulled it out of storage but has a shot fork (eleastomer and cartrige shot), 7-speed shifter is busted, saddle torn to shreds..and some rust. So don;t think it's work repairing.

    was going to with a new HT so I could get better value but canít decide after reading how much everyone raves about FS bikes.

    Need to keep under $1K max and thinking best value is online.


    For FS Lookjng at:
    http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/IGN-SUP-Details.html
    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...mcomp_ds08.htm
    http://www.rscycle.com/2008-Iron-Hor...ategory=27532#

    for HT Looking at:
    http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/TR-COMP-Details.html
    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...tom_comp08.htm
    http://www.rscycle.com/2008-Iron-Hor...category=27532 (cheapest of the group)

    been doing lots of research but so much has changed since I last rode.

    So what do you guys think a FS or HT and why?
    Which of the choices would you guys recommend?

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    Only the Ibex links work, so I don't know what you're comparing those to.

    Regarding the Ibex bikes, they have a decent spec; ceratinly a step above entry level and that should be decent for you. For $200 to go FS with similar specs, I'd go that route since you already have experience.

    For a raw beginner, I'd probably recommend the hardtail route to let them have the experience of learnig to ride on a hardtail so they learn to use their body properly and pick better lines. For what it's worth, I wouldn't go with a spec that is anything below what you're looking at if you want to have the best chance to avoid 'upgraditis'.

    Just for comparison's sake, here is a hardtail available from an actual shop (it's in LA, CA and you'd have to buy it as a walk-in customer, but you may be able to find a similar deal near you):

    http://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cfm?LibId=41088

    It has a similar spec, may be nicer brakes since they are hydraulic, basically the same fork, etc. And Kona makes a heck of a frame. You can get some very attractive pricing on the internet, but if you shop carefully, many times you can do pretty well at an LBS too.

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    Plus, building a repore with a LBS is good too. Most LBS's offer service plans free with the purchase of a bike, or other incentives.

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    Jeff
    have a look at http://www.rscycle.com/2008-Iron-Hor...19&category=55 doubt I could get that kind of deal locally.

    agree with the LBS points, but I'm pretty handy and used to do all my own repair work

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    I am a fan of DW-Link bikes and this bike should ride better than the other Ibex FS bikes.

    Things to look at and be aware of:

    1) It's an 8 speed drivetrain instead of a 9 speed drivetrain. X.5 < X.7 in the SRAM line.

    2) Sizes smaller than 19" come with 170mm crank length instead of a more normal 175mm

    3) Shimano hydraulic disc brakes is good, better than the others you've spec'd IMHO.

    In your case, since you are not inclined to seek out deals from any of your LBS's, I think I'd go with the Iron Horse. Just be aware that Iron Horse has had some recent instability with regards to their market direction and I don't think future IH bikes will feature DW-Link frames as their agreement will be axpiring soon. You may want to speak with RS Cycles about future parts availability for your DW-Link frame and warranty considerations. Nice frames though and very good value.

    Make sure the frame is the correct size for you. Conversations with the dealer before the sale > conversations after the sale generally speaking.

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    jeff,
    all good points..thanks.
    With the DW frame are any of the parts replacable that I need to worry about IH going under?
    coul dI use part from other DWL makers?
    think the 8 speed and shorter cran length are major concerns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CITYSWINE
    jeff,
    all good points..thanks.
    With the DW frame are any of the parts replacable that I need to worry about IH going under?
    coul dI use part from other DWL makers?
    think the 8 speed and shorter cran length are major concerns?
    All DW-Link parts between manufacturers are specific to that manufacturer. In other words, if your rear triangle fails, it will have to be replaced by Iron Horse as theirs is the only one that will fit. Bearings for the pivots could be sourced elsewhere though.

    It doesn't appear that IH will go under, but they will no longer be making DW-Link frames. They will probably have replacement frame components available through the warranty period (and possibly beyond) or they would likely have to offer a newer non DW-Link frame. If it were me, I'd probably still take the chance on the IH over the Ibex. JMHO.

    The crank length question is a question of personal preference. You may not notice it, you may prefer it or you may like a longer crank length. Personal preference will prevail here. Worst case scenario, you could swap it out for a 175mm at your cost.

    The only thing about 8 speed is that if you want to upgrade things later on, many things between 8 and 9 speed are not interchangeable. Fortunately for you, 8 & 9 speed cranksets and rear derailleurs are interchangeable, but shifters, cassettes and chains are not. You could update your bike with 9 speed stuff by swapping out the cassette (it will still fit on your wheelset), shifters, chain and rear derailleur if you really wanted to, but I don't see it being that much of a negative.

    8 speed stuff is not quite as common and manufacturers no longer make newer designs of high end 8 speed stuff, but it's still easily sourced and it's generally less expensive than 9 speed stuff.

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    jeff and others. considering my wegiht and type of riding shold I just get a HT
    what do you think of this
    http://www.rscycle.com/2008-Iron-Hor...19&category=56

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    After eight years and 60 pounds, I just returned to the MTB world.

    While my budget was more constrained, I actually chose to go rigid. With a constrained budget, I didn't want to mess with any entry-level shocks/forks, plus, I simply needed to get my 'biking legs' back before I invested heavily in some serious machinery. Going this route would also provide me with the opportunity to get a true gauge as to what type of riding I would truly be doing once I got back into shape. Thus far, it's been the right decision for me.

    Had I already been in reasonable shape, had a little bit more money to invest initially, and felt comfortable with my mechanical skills, I probably would have looked more seriously at the various versions of the Bikes Direct Fantom 29er and Cliff 29. What I ended up with instead is a GT Peace 9r Multi. It fits me well and should I want to add a suspension fork in the future, it's geometry is suspension corrected for 80mm.

    I'm happy with my decision.

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