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    New question here. Do you HAVE to put grease on your New Seatpost...?

    Hello ! Everyone.

    I just bought a new El Norte Expert seatpost along w/ Hope's Bolt Seat Clamp because my stock seatpost kept on slipping. I heard that you have to add some grease so the post wouldn't break or something like that. I would like to know if this is true, Do I really need to add some grease to the seatpost..? cause I currently don't have any and don't feel like buying some unless its a must..

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    Yes...unless you never, *EVER* want to move it...ever (there's only a tiny bit of hyperbole there).

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    If you plan on working on your own bike...buy some grease. It doesn't have to come from a bike shop, get some multi-purpose grease (I like marine grade for wet conditions) from an auto parts store if you wish...its usually cheaper

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    No, no, Paul R Nelson. He said gReese. Not geese...

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    I think I paid about 4 bucks for a tub of grease. Drink 7-11 coffee for a few days and you'll be able to afford some grease.
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    ...I'll say that back in the day (90's) i didn't use any on a new seatpost (replacing one i bent).. and I had no problem... but i'm sure there was residual in the seat tube
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    Ooooh. Grease......I get it now. Who's the silly goose now, eh?!


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    YES! Grease should always be used where metal touches metal. If your seatpost is slipping, it's the clamp you should be tightening or upgrading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markymark
    YES! Grease should always be used where metal touches metal. If your seatpost is slipping, it's the clamp you should be tightening or upgrading.
    i've been told that grease on the seatpost isn't necessary if you remove the seat after every ride...truth?
    I ride a 26'er with tubes and rim brakes.
    Yeah, I'm basically living in the stone age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksaw87
    i've been told that grease on the seatpost isn't necessary if you remove the seat after every ride...truth?
    that is weird , who told you that?

    You should grease your seatpost, but of course, you don't HAVE to if you don't want to.

    Greasing the post will prevent creak, rust, corrossion, getting stuck etc etc. But do what you wanna do be what you wanna be yeah.

    Like I said before anywhere in life where metal contacts metal should have some sort of lubrication, cars, motorbikes, mountain bikes etc.

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    I use an expensive seat post (Thomson Masterpiece). In addition to all the normal reasons to grease it, I also want to prevent it from getting all scratched if possible!
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    thank you for the responses & sorry about the typo

    anyway, another newbie question, How often you should grease your seatpost....

    also, does anyone grease the Handlebar...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496
    ... Drink 7-11 coffee for a few days and you'll be able to afford some grease.
    I've never thought of that as a way to raise funds!
    Is it just their coffee that makes you sh!t $$, or do other 7-11 products turn you into a human slot machine as well?
    I have a Circle-K just down the street, any idea if their coffee will have me pissin pennies?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    I've never greased a handle bar, and rarely grease the seatpost- On on bike I have a dropper post, that is greasedon account of on taking it out every 5 or 6 rides to grease up the workings of the post. On my XC bike with a normal post, I havent ever greased it, On the steeper stuff I lower it, raise it again afterwards- remove it when washing the bike and wipe it down to refit. Grease IMO is only there to stop it seizing up- if you like me move it often enough it wont seize.... But saying that for what it costs to do so, it aint gonna do any harm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by markymark
    that is weird , who told you that?

    You should grease your seatpost, but of course, you don't HAVE to if you don't want to.

    Greasing the post will prevent creak, rust, corrossion, getting stuck etc etc. But do what you wanna do be what you wanna be yeah.

    Like I said before anywhere in life where metal contacts metal should have some sort of lubrication, cars, motorbikes, mountain bikes etc.
    who told me that?
    the guy at the bike shop who sold me my seat...and also, an old teacher who also works at a bike shop
    I ride a 26'er with tubes and rim brakes.
    Yeah, I'm basically living in the stone age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I've never thought of that as a way to raise funds!
    Is it just their coffee that makes you sh!t $$, or do other 7-11 products turn you into a human slot machine as well?
    I have a Circle-K just down the street, any idea if their coffee will have me pissin pennies?
    Yeah, I don't know... I don't eat their food. I was just pointing out that if you drank Starbucks, you could save enough for some grease by cuttin' back a little. The possibilities are endless. Walmart toilet paper instead of Charmin, Crystal Glacier instead of Poland Spring...
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    haha...I know...just havin' some fun...
    BTW - I'm pretty much cut back on the types of stuff you mentioned...
    everything else goes to my bike and my drug/alcohol habit
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    *DBL post
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    One afternoon (or week) spent cussing a stuck seat post out of a frame and you will grease your post without a second thought. Especially if one is metal and one is aluminum.

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    Or paying a bike shop hourly to remove a seized post...I removed quite a few in my bike shop days

    Figure $48 an hour and probably a 1-2 hours of actual labor time (we didn't charge for the day or two the bike was left upside down with penetrating oil in the seat tube). Not to mention the price of a new seatpost as they rarely survive.

    Don't be cheap people, if its metal to metal use grease, anti-seize, or assembly paste.

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    You shouldn't charge for the time you are letting penetrating junk do it's thing. That would be a horrible shop to go to if they did. I've had them/seen them take some time and effort though that's for sure. The "old man" wrench (one of those "clever" been around/building/fixing bikes for 50 years types) at the shop I worked at, worked away for over an hour, steady, on one...trying to save the post for the guy...didn't workout. 10 minutes with a hacksaw and a hammer/drift combo and it was out. Of course, they had to get a new post after that little session though. We didn't charge for the tinker time since they manned up and bought a new post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaKlyde
    You shouldn't charge for the time you are letting penetrating junk do it's thing. That would be a horrible shop to go to if they did.
    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    we didn't charge for the day or two the bike was left upside down with penetrating oil in the seat tube
    ???

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    while we're on the topic, would phil's grease work well for a seatpost?
    I ride a 26'er with tubes and rim brakes.
    Yeah, I'm basically living in the stone age.

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    Yes, especially in wet conditions. It might actually keep water from getting down your seat tube and into the BB shell.

    Its basically my grease of choice (though I use a carbon seatpost right now so I use a different "paste" for that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    ???
    That you didn't charge was said as though it was something special that the shop didn't charge for having a bike hang in the back...or at least that is how I took it. It being in parentheses (to make a point) and standing out and all. I wasn't trying to pick a fight...there are, sadly, shops that think they are doing someone a favor by working on a customer's bike.

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    Gotcha...I guess I interpreted it wrong

    Yes, it would be super lame to charge for the time the bike sat

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    Yes Phils is very good stuff.

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    Grease? Yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul r nelson
    Ooooh. Grease......I get it now. Who's the silly goose now, eh?!


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    Here's the deal.

    You SHOULD grease your seatpost if it's metal and your frame is metal. If you don't move it for a year or two or three, whatever the magic # is, there is a good chance that it will be frozen in place forever. Whether you call it 'molecular migration' of two dissimilar metals or 'galvanic corrosion' it exists and can lead to a bond between the two metals.

    The reason you DON"T HAVE TO grease a post is that most of us move our posts up/down during rides or simply remove it from time to time for whatever reason. This keeps it free from bonding with the frame.

    To clarify; galvanic corrosion applies to two different metals in contact with one another. Like metals could corrode with help from Mother Nature, or washing your bike, etc. Another good reason to grease it since it's a likely place to trap water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vdubz
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul r nelson
    Just imagine a stimulus package where we all get our own transvestite experience, speeches from Ted the uneducated speech writer and Erock as VP.
    We could all learn about the "bi-sexual, transgendered, 2 spirited aleutian eskimos sex habits and ted could bring his ghostssssss

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    Quote Originally Posted by elvez
    One afternoon (or week) spent cussing a stuck seat post out of a frame and you will grease your post without a second thought. Especially if one is metal and one is aluminum.
    Wait?
    aluminum isn't metal?

    You should put verry little greese on your post. but then a mountainbike post is
    ment to be adjusted. Thats why it has a quick release. Yu know you're going to drop it for that steep down,right?

    Do NOT put greese on your handle bar mount because you don't want it to move.

    As far as the poeple that work at bike shops that can't remove a frozen post frome a frame.
    Try this.
    Get a large pipe wrench, from H depot or from Joe the plumber.
    Get a heat gun or your wifes hair dryer.
    Lastly get another person to hold the heat gun and heat the seat tube, NOT the post.
    Use the pipe wrech to spin the post in the frame.
    next time

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    good idea with the heat... I used to do that kind of thing with my trumpet when the MP would stick... i'd run as hot of water as I could over both the mouthpiece and the leadpipe (seat post and tube eqiv)... then i'd run ice water over the mouthpiece (seat post) worked like a charm
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    Is It alright to put Thread Locker on the screw cap bolt to hold the Fork, (The crew On Top Of The Headset)
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    You can, I don't/wouldn't. Grease is a good idea though.

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    You could put threadlocker on there but good lord make sure its the blue one, since the red isn't meant to come off.. Honestly I always used a dab of grease on them when I worked in the bike shop... anyone else starting to hear an echo??

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    Took the advice from this post. Just installed this bad boy today


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    Everyone here use's grease? I tend to use lighter stuff like Phil's Tenacious Oil. Is grease the better option?

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    bump...is a creaky seatpost bad? like, is there anything inherently dangerous about it?
    I ride a 26'er with tubes and rim brakes.
    Yeah, I'm basically living in the stone age.

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    I may be ready to break, but I find when mine starts to creak, it's usually the bolts on the seatpost. I take them out, clean them up, and then put it back together... with a bit of grease
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    I don't use grease. Haven't for a long time. I used to many years ago, but it mostly just collected dirt. My two main mountain bikes both have Thomson posts and my roadie has one of those Thomson knockoff 2-4-3 posts like the one pictured above.

    I even use solvent on a rag to clean out the seat tube. My posts don't slip unless I loosen the collar and want them to. I can flip the lever on the quick release and they will fall down easily. Might be that I work on my bikes often, ride them regularly (and move them up and down most every ride) and don't ride/live in rainy environs, but I find no reason to use grease on the post/seat tube interface. If there was a burr that would cause scratches on the post, I would sand/file it down so it wouldn't (which I have had to do once or twice).

    I do leave the grease on the seatpost of my wife's bike because she only rides it when we vavaction in the summer time.

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    Good points, as I think it all depends on how often someone uses/maintains their ride. Use grease on parts that seldom move, it's really not necessary on frequently serviced areas unless friction is a problem. If you're prone to ignoring your bike then grease everything, lol!! Well, except the brakes...

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