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    Clydes and Crashes

    Is it just me, or does it seem like when you crash (you being a clyde) you do way more damage to yourself and equipment than all the little racer guys do?

    I OTB and have to get 4 new teeth and 25 stitches, my 165lb friend OTBs and he needs some ibuprofen.

    Do i just need to learn how to fall better? Maybe some JUDO lessons?

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    When I hit the ground, I hit it hard. I've even broken my right forearm. My last fall was pretty good. Went over the bars and actually laned on my Camelback and left side. Had my arms tucked in, so no real injuries. Worst part was smackin' my ankle on the steerer stem. It blew up like a balloon, but I was able to ride out.
    Yeah, we definitely hit the ground harder than a guy that weighs 100 pounds less.
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    I find the extra fat cushions my falls.:-)

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    Personally, I like being a tall rider. More often than not when I have to bail I get feline with it, land feet down and do the trot-trot-trot instead of the roll-tumble-slam-tumble.

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    Falling is like everything els the more practice you get the better you are at it.

    Unfortunately I am pretty good at falling. I can wipe out pretty spectacularly and not brant worse for wear. When I first got into mountain biking about 10 years ago, if I crashed, I was either hurting, or I broke something on the bike.

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    'The bigger they are, the harder they fall' has never made more sense than after a OTB fall
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    I went OTB at ~22 mph three weeks ago. A couple of beers that night to alleviate the pain and I was on the bike again the next day. Did have one huge bruise on the side of my left leg from my hip to just above my knee.

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    Yes it is true that we get hurt more in falls, I had to quit racing Supermoto because of this. Everytime I went down I got hurt but everytime one of the little jockey mofo's went down nothing happened to them.

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    If you aren't crashing, you aren't mountain biking...
    My most painful crashes have happened while riding at my slowest speeds.

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    Learn how to fall, try not to panic. It all seems to happen in "slow-motion" for me.
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    My most painful crashes have happened while riding at my slowest speeds.
    This so much for real.

    Judo helps me with my falling, apart from that most of my falls are slow motion brain farts, and they're embarrassing as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14Stone View Post
    This so much for real.

    Judo helps me with my falling, apart from that most of my falls are slow motion brain farts, and they're embarrassing as hell.
    This brings up another question. How many people that get hurt pretty easily started mountain biking later in life vs those of us that have ridden (and consequently crashed) most of our lives? I raced through my teens and early 20s. It wasnt until I graduated college and started living at 35,000 feet that I joined clydes ranks. Learning how to crash early in life has translated to far fewer injuries now.

    That said, my last major crash was on a trail I have literally ridden 500 times in my life and was a complete brain fart where I wasn't paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 930 View Post
    This brings up another question. How many people that get hurt pretty easily started mountain biking later in life vs those of us that have ridden (and consequently crashed) most of our lives? I raced through my teens and early 20s. It wasnt until I graduated college and started living at 35,000 feet that I joined clydes ranks. Learning how to crash early in life has translated to far fewer injuries now.

    That said, my last major crash was on a trail I have literally ridden 500 times in my life and was a complete brain fart where I wasn't paying attention.

    I too raced XC in my younger years. And I do quite a bit of trials biking and competed in that too. And I took martial arts through my teenage years. So, knock on wood, I haven't had a bad crash for quite a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 930 View Post
    It wasn't until I graduated college and started living at 35,000 feet that I joined clydes ranks.
    How do you live at 35,000 feet? That is higher than Mt Everest.

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    I think you may need the judo lessons or something like that. I'm now 52, 6'4' & 225lbs so I should hit the ground as hard as most clydes. I went over the bars on a rocky downhill this weekend and only had a few scrapes and bruises to show for it. Here is link to the video - the fall starts at ~ 1 minute <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/28337129?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="398" height="271" frameborder="0"></iframe>.

    I guess judo when I was a kid, football and such during school and motocross / dirt bike racing after that I instinctively avoid a lot of injuries. I remember during this weekend's fall I was making decisions on where & how to land while I was in the air. Once I was on my back I grabbed a handful of tree to prevent sliding over the cliff next to the trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CxAgent2 View Post
    How do you live at 35,000 feet? That is higher than Mt Everest.
    Up until about April this year, I was on a plane at least twice a week. Some weeks would be four to five days. I was making a joke about how much time I spent on a plane over the last five or so years.

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    Ack, every time I watch a crash video my skin crawls. Good recovery, but try not to stop yourself with your hands. Its an easy way to break all those fragile bones in there. If I go down, usually I try to wear it all on my shoulders and side. I'll take a broken rib over a wrist any day.

    Cause you know, I'm sure I'll follow my own advice next time I go face first into a rock garden.......

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    I agree with you to NOT try to stop yourself with your hands in most crashes. There are times when I'm willing to sacrifice a finger / hand / wrist to save something else.

    I got my hands out to protect my neck. I distinctly remember going over and thinking I wasn't going fast enough to get all the way over on to my back so I got my hands out. I did NOT want to do a pile driver on my head/neck. As I was going over I was doing a hand stand and slowly lowered my weight down off my hands to my head/helmet. You can see that point in the video when the camera is showing my right hand with the fingers pointed towards the camera. After that it was just roll onto my back.

    I think the funny part doesn't show in the video. As I was going over it dawned on me that there was a pretty steep drop on that right side where I was falling. I caught a handful of cedar branches in my left hand while I was still falling. I wouldn't let go of those little twigs & such until I had my feet under me so I knew I wouldn't slip down the hill. Made it hard to stand up with my left hand stretched out behind my head.

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    Crashing sucks either way

    Worst *Read: Humiliating* crash I had was a slow OTB crash. No joke I knew I was going down, and it felt like it took at least 5 seconds for the fall to complete. Worst part is, I don't even know what caused it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14Stone View Post
    Crashing sucks either way

    Worst *Read: Humiliating* crash I had was a slow OTB crash. No joke I knew I was going down, and it felt like it took at least 5 seconds for the fall to complete. Worst part is, I don't even know what caused it.
    Those are the worse. You are perched on your front wheel going, "can I save this or should I bail now?" You know it is going to be bad when you can have a whole conversation in your head before you actually hit the ground.

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    6'2" 235. crash is a bit past the 1 minute mark. I m not totally sure what happened even when I see myself lose control in the video. luckily I have been falling my whole life, in snowboarding, skating, etc...
    <object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ah2kFZ4rNfk?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ah2kFZ4rNfk?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shocker99 View Post
    Learn how to fall, try not to panic. It all seems to happen in "slow-motion" for me.
    Opposite for me, its just happens and I tend not to remember it a few seconds later. As soon as it happens I just think 'oh **** this completely caught me off guard' and the next thing I know I'm on the ground.
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    big tree fall hard... lol

    When i fell I usually take out a buddy or a object in front of me but i usually just get up and walk it off. Sometimes limping

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    You need to learn to tuck and roll when falling and hope to god you going to be okay and able to finish your ride.

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    I tend not get hurt (6'7" 325 for reference) when I crash other than the occasional scrapes and bruises. I attribute it to years of martial arts (Hap Ki Do) and spending most of my teens on a skate board. You learn to take a fall. That said my worst crash was OTB, where I ended up with a smashed helmet and a concussion. No idea what happened. Don't remember a few hundred yards of trail leading up to where I crashed and my ride partner was far enough behind me that he didn't see it.

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    I crash every now and then (6'2 230) and hardly ever get hurt, but usually get my bell rung and have to sit for a second to make the spots disappear. I almost ALWAYS seem to land on my left shoulder and roll, don't know why, but I do.
    Crashed hard yesterday riding an unfamiliar trail with lots of narrow singletrack twisties in between trees. I was going way too fast and a tree snuck up on me and caught me right in the left shoulder *go figure*.
    I don't know how, but the bike was leaned up against the tree and I was standing about 6 feet in front of it facing backwards wondering what the hell happened (unclipped and everything). I had some limited ROM in that shoulder the rest of the day, but it's only sore now. I rode the same trail again this morning.

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    all of my crashes have been when i'm going slow, and in an area out of my comfort zone ( a new drop, a new bridge...) Worst one so far was over a brdige in the rain. My tire slipped off one side and everything went slo-mo. I felt the front tire hit the ground and there was nothing i could do. I got pitched forward hard into a coral outcropping. Impact killed 3 of my teeth(3 root canals) and ripped my lower lip from the middle to the right side (25 stitches).

    Then I was having the issue of tacoing front wheels in high speed corners. Finally fixed that issue. Its very disconcerting and discouraging to be crashing so much lately...

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    Crashed last night!

    About a 18" drop. Front tire burped out, free foliage meal. Actually was at speed this time too. No damage to me or my bike. But it was on a fairly packed group ride and I had been riding strong all night, so my pride took most of the damage.

    Took most of the impact on my shoulder and ribs, thank the cog gods I cleared the root section before crashing. That would have sucked.

    Stan's UST setup with Racing Ralphs. I was running about 28psi in the front. Came off the jump a bit off camber, heard a ping as the bead came out of the rim, heavy air loss and tada, game over. It also picked up a bunch of pine needles so I had to do a total deflate pick everything out, then reseal with CO2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrone.minton View Post
    all of my crashes have been when i'm going slow, and in an area out of my comfort zone ( a new drop, a new bridge...) Worst one so far was over a brdige in the rain. My tire slipped off one side and everything went slo-mo. I felt the front tire hit the ground and there was nothing i could do. I got pitched forward hard into a coral outcropping. Impact killed 3 of my teeth(3 root canals) and ripped my lower lip from the middle to the right side (25 stitches).

    Then I was having the issue of tacoing front wheels in high speed corners. Finally fixed that issue. Its very disconcerting and discouraging to be crashing so much lately...
    That's a gnarly accident! Got pics?
    Glad you're ok!

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    Another crash this weekend. Was out and about riding. Had finally cleared a hill that was giving me trouble. If you don't take the perfect line through it, you'll get hung up on some really gnarly roots. Earlier that day I had cleared a long and gruelling climb appropriately named "The Wall of Pain".

    So I was on a pretty good high, decided to lead the group down a really fun section of the trails called "Super Fly".

    Yeah, full speed, and my front tire washes out in the sand around a banked turn.



    Finished the ride, but I'm milking it for what I can today. Don't tell my wife though... the lawn needs to be cut.

    PS, Phone Camera, but it gets the point across

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    Welp, this was my spill on Saturday. Rented some freeride bikes and had some fun going down the mountain.

    The Canyons Mountain Bike Crash - YouTube

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    It's harder to save a close call as well. Once you get the momentum going, it's hard to stop it!

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