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    6" travel frame for Clydes ?

    I am looking to build up a trail bike w/ about 6" of air sprung travel. I was set on a SC Nomad until I demo'd one. I weigh 210 and had about 250 psi in the rear shock (Float R) and still was @ the tall end of 20mm of shock sag. Looking more for a frame that has a heavier rider frame leverage ratio. SC tech told me riders over 210 should consider a coil on a Nomad. Multi-pivot suggestions ? Thanx

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    yeti 575 or asx

    Look at the Yeti ASX can be built dh or xc

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    I know you'll want to laugh but... I got a Raleigh Ram XT 2500 frame on Ebay 2 weeks ago and let me tell you..... It kicks azz! I got it to replace my Stinky as a more do it all type bike and it's perfect for big guys!

    It outshines my Stinky in every level so far. It rides much lighter, and peddles much better. It has a 1.5 headtube and comes with the reducer cups. I'd give this bike a 10 out of 10 if I had to rate it as of now. I took it on a epic XC ride the other day and couldn't believe how well it rode on the trail. It climbs great for a 6 inch travel bike. I have a 66 upfront with 170mm travel. The only thing I would consider doing is lowering the travel to 150mm on my 66 for better climbing but it does ok even at 7 inches.

    Oh and by the way.... It's only $399.00 for the frame. Comes with a Manitou Swinger 4 way rear shock. Adjustable travel from 6 to 7 inches in back.Coil version and has a 550 lb spring. I weigh 230lbs and it's the perfect spring size for me.

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    Intense 6.6
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    I know the reign has like a 3:1 leverage ratio which will stink, do not know about the other two. The new treks will have split pivot which may be of interest. Why are you not considering faux bar or single pivot. The Heckler, Transiton covert, and like the like would be nice choices.

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    Have a look at the Haro Xeon. I weigh lots yet only need 110psi in the shock to get the 12mm of sag needed. The shock on it is a Rockshox Pearl which is huge compared to most air shocks. This shock has a maximum pressure of 250psi.

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    Thanx for the responses. Nice Ram Anything I get will be a light trail build size XL only as I am 6'4". Un-interupted seat tubes are a must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saba
    Look at the Yeti ASX can be built dh or xc
    I just got back from a 3 hour (hmmm, aggressive XC?) ride on my AS-X. It pedals OK uphill, as long as you have a gear that is low enough and going down the hills is great. Mine is in the 7" position but in 6" mode it would be more firm at the beginning of the stroke.

    issues:
    - comes stock with a good coil shock. You can change it or just go with the coil and get a 550 or 600 spring on it.
    - geometry: the angles are pretty slack. For climbing, you need to be able to dial your fork down to 5" or even less.

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    You are in the middle of the rider height scale that Yeti recommends for the Large. I'm in the middle of the scale for Medium and a 60mm stem feels a bit downhill oriented. So does the 170mm to 130 mm fork. A little shorter would be even better for general trails riding.
    I think the Large comes with a 500 spring which migh or might not be on the soft side for your (and my) size.
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    The Reign is a 3:1 ratio, but for some reason, that doesn't translate into super high air pressure in my Swinger Air. I currently weigh in the 270's, but was at 299lbs in early June and have never needed to run more than 190psi. Conversely, I used to run 280psi to 300psi in my old Super V in a Swinger Air with an almost identical leverage ratio.

    The Reign is a great ride for us "bigs".

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    Coil sems to be the preferred way to go for bigger riders, but for 6" travel frames, the list I was looking at were:

    SC Nomad
    Intense 6.6
    Giant Reign
    Rocky Mountain Slayer / Slayer SXC
    Turner RFX and
    Banshee Rune

    I'm 6' and 235 + gear.
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    Giant Reign for the price or Turner RFX. IMO Intense are just overpriced.

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    Kona Coiler or Coilair.
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    Other Options : Ventana El Terremoto 6.0 is a sweet 6" travel frame that some are using the Fox RP23 air shock with excellent results !

    Knolly Endorphin will be available soon which has 5.5" rear travel and could be one of the sweetest 26" wheeled trail bike frames ever for us bigger peeps ! TIG.

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    Mountain Cycle's San Andreas DNA is a very rigid frame that works well for heavier riders.
    I second the opinion that a coil shock, with some kind of pedaling platform, is the way to go, unless the leverage ratio is kept down to about 2.5 to 1, I wouldn't go with an air shock.
    Most bikes in that travel range are closer to 3 to 1 though.
    A Mountain Cycle Fury is also a good choice, but only has 5" travel.
    The Fury has what could be described as an over built frame and a leverage ratio close to 2.5 to 1.
    The Fury is also more rigid than a Heckler.

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    I ride a Turner 6 Pack/RFX (I'm 255-ish); '06. They have a 3:1 ratio. While it (and other Turner bikes are great) I wouldn't suggest an air shock for big guys, but you are light for a big guy so an RP 23 could do well for you, especially on the '07+ RFX's. They have a bit lower ratio.

    Foes makes a good 5-6" bike that is 2:1. It comes with their Curnutt (coil) though if you have to have air...

    Intense bikes are baddAzz. They are only a hundred to two hundred more than Turners, sometimes less depending on dealer/sales.

    Yeti has been good to big guys as well.

    Giant makes one of the better "inexpensive" trailbikes for clydes. At your weight you have options many of us don't: on the proper bike you can run air with no worries and get a plush ride. Just avoid the Fox DHX air on high leverage ratio bikes (ratios above 2:1). The new ('08) DHX coils are much nicer than the '07's IMHO.

    Good luck.

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    Listen! Huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by ctrailfreak
    Uh, how do you shift, er, where's the drive train? No der hanger, no chain, no rear deraillur...

    Lotsa good designs out there, though being a clydesdale I'd either stay coil sprung, the DHX 5.0 is my personal fav or at the very least if you go air, get it set up by the pro's-Like Push, not the LBS or advice from some nameless shmuck online...go to the pro's.

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    Second Ventana..

    El Terremoto 6.0

    6" Travel, Air shock and lower than 3:1 Ratio.

    This is my La Bruja, the Terremoto's predecessor. 6" travel, Air front and Rear.
    That's a Manitou Swinger 3 Way. I only use 160psi in the main chamber and 65psi in the SPV valve to Set sag right for my 230# + gear correctly.
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    Just a thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by bingemtbr
    , though being a clydesdale I'd either stay coil sprung, the DHX 5.0 is my personal fav or at the very least if you go air, get it set up by the pro's-Like Push, not the LBS or advice from some nameless shmuck online...go to the pro's.
    I'm not sure your experiences with the LBS's in your area, but there are good shops to be found (all it takes is a bit of maddening trial and error or a chunk of luck). Just a thought though. The shock I lust after is the Avalanche Chubby (with Ti spring), but the best shock I can *afford* is the '08 DHX coil. The guys at Push know their stuff to be sure though. If you have the tools/knowledge you can get the small parts from Push and do the work yourself. That's yet another thought...

    Brock...
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    Foes, 2:1 leverage ratio will work way better than 3:1. Lighter spring, easier on the damper, better performance for the big fellas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingemtbr
    Uh, how do you shift, er, where's the drive train? No der hanger, no chain, no rear deraillur... .
    That was a picture I took of it before I got it built all the way. When I purchased it, it came with no Hanger for the derailleur so I had to wait for one to come in. I've had it now for 3 weeks and can tell you, it shifts great now!

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    ventana!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrailfreak
    Here's the link to ebay...
    Great seller, have used...

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    Or you could have your own 2:1 Custom bike built, that's what I'm working on with SWD racing. Gonna be schweet.

    If your looking for a 6" bike and your a clyde, the one thing you need to be concerned with is the leverage ratio. Any bike with 6" and a 2.5" strok shock or better should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RED5
    Or you could have your own 2:1 Custom bike built, that's what I'm working on with SWD racing. Gonna be schweet.

    If your looking for a 6" bike and your a clyde, the one thing you need to be concerned with is the leverage ratio. Any bike with 6" and a 2.5" strok shock or better should be fine.
    The Nomad runs an 8.5 x 2.5 for 6.5" of travel. I had to run 250psi to get the max sag numbers ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keen
    The Nomad runs an 8.5 x 2.5 for 6.5" of travel. I had to run 250psi to get the max sag numbers ?
    And it rode like crap I bet because with that much air it starts to over power the damper.

    Look at a foes, you will not be sorry with that leverage ratio of being able to run a lighter spring.

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