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    Quote Originally Posted by skottt160
    Note, this is not a personal attack on anyone, just observations.

    Prodigal Son, ironically, the way you chose to attack tunicatrails by definition applies to you as well. You say that he lives his life according to the standards he sees as best, and makes his actions fit accordingly. Then you say well, that gives you no right to impose your will on others.

    You live your life the same way. I do too. I am writing this because it seems like the best action for me to do at the time. So I do it. It would not be rational to live any other way. So now there is just all these different reference points coming in about what is right, what is wasteful, and what is not. You say he is not objective, and can't tell others what to do. I say you suffer from the exact same situation. Again, ironically, this post does too.

    This kind of represents my issue with much of the environmental movement. While I sympathize with many views, I can't really ally myself with them. The problem is end-based reasoning. Using end-based reasoning, anything is justifiable, or not justifiable. If we look at the earth and say, this is where we need to be, and doing actions that get us there are right, we will be in deep doodoo. Outlandish things can be justified, because the end goal makes them alright. The same goes for criticism too. Anything can be made to be bad, and not conducive towards the final goal. Personally, the way I think it should work is our actions and the things we live by should result in a world that is happy/sustainable/whatever, rather than the idea of that world dictating our current actions. For example, we could say that we want to be energy independent or something in ten years. That would be "good." Now, a way to do that would be to cull our population to a size that can live off the resources in our own area. That would result in a goal that is good, right? Action justified.
    I say no. What we live by should not determined by where we want to go, but where we go should be determined by how we live now.

    I guess what I'm saying is, your accusation of tunicatrails operates on faulty logic. You say people aren't held to his standards, because his voice is not objective. News flash, yours isn't either, and neither is mine.
    This is what I think:
    Where we want to go will have impact on how we live now; and how we live now will then lead to how we live in the future. Set up the goal, take actions, then we will get there. It is that simple!

    Just my two cents.

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    Sorry Highdell. I was responding to Tunica EnviroNazi, who responded to my post, but I didn't include the body of the post so it was confusing. My bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybird
    Sorry Highdell. I was responding to Tunica EnviroNazi, who responded to my post, but I didn't include the body of the post so it was confusing. My bad.
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    After dragging the family around for 15 years with a jeep Cherokee and a small utility trailer tent camping we stepped up to a 23' Outback side loading toy hauler. room for the family, 3 motorcycles and the mtn bikes go in the truck. An 05 2500HD Silverado, chose to purchase a std trailer over a 5th wheel to maintain the truck storage space. The setup works great. We have had a bad camp experience, drunks next space over but that happens at MTB races too doesn't it? The only problem with the trailer set up is we don't get out as much as we would like.

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    Wow!

    When I started this thread two years ago I never woulda thought it woulda taken such a long roundabout journey out and back!

    We still have our Trail Mite, still love it. We've taken it across the USA and back 3 times now and will do it again in the years to come.

    But, we may downsize a bit. How 'bout this???
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    I like that^^ I wonder how much that thing weighs?

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    We have a 21 foot Bigfoot trailer that gives us 4 season Rv-ing fun.
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    on a singlespeed bike with a coaster brake pulling a homemade trailer. that kid flat out rules. there's gotta be more info on him out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot
    Ours is a '72 vintage TrailMite.

    What kind of travel rigs do the rest of you have?
    Cool little unit! Looks like fun.

    Ours is a 2002 VW Eurovan.

    Glad to see that Tunica stroke punched out. Getting awfully tired if these ice age... err global warming... er climate change... er carbon footprint statists telling others what to do.




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    Thidwick the 84 Westy

    Here's Thidwick the 84 Westy, rescued from the crap heap, recycled and refitted.
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    I took a couple of pictures of the old beater this weekend. It works great for our young family and keeps me on the trails.

    For those that are wondering, the bike did cost more.




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    I'd prefer a pop-up that fits in a standard garage so I don't have to deal with storage (hopefully sound logic) and I am looking on CL but any ideas on what to look for? Do pop-ups come with heat/air as well. Does all that run on propane? Looking for a bit of an edumication so I can search more intelligently. No plans on going to Louisiana but would like to explore the west.

    I already bought a used vehicle to pull the camper with so half the battle is over.

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    Those are nice campers.

    I really want an small camper trailer. I am looking for a used ford ranger with a v-6. I Looked at one today, but my mechanic said it was rusty underneath and not to buy it.

    I would love a tear drop camper but I want an indoor kitchen and would perfer a bathroom. I don't own much stuff and have a tiny dog. i am also small. I think I could live in a small camper and travel.

    Anybody have solar panels for thier RV? Would a small one charge a battery for a tiny camper? I don't want to camp at RV parks. National forest is free.

    As far as evo-friendly goes, my future ford ranger would not get bad gas milage and I would use far less electricity than if I lived in a house.

    Do any companies make pop-up truck bed campers for small trucks like the Rangers?

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    National Forest is free if you are camping at a primitive site. Most NF campgrounds, even those without hookups, run 8-12$ a night.

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    RidersofDslum,
    We have a solar panel on our small camper. It is always on and continuously charges a 12V battery mounted on the trailer tongue. Provides more than enough electricity to keep the batteries topped off, but it won't run non 12 volt electronics such as a/c or microwave. I have plugged in an inverter and used some hair clippers, though.
    I don't know any name brands, but I have seen many slide in campers for small pick ups.

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    My tent trailer

    Picked it up this summer for $1800, spent the next 5 weeks living in it with my wife and our German Shepard while traveling in BC. It was great!
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    Allowed us to sleep places like this
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    and ride trails like this.
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    Way better than my tent (which is an awesome tent), way cheaper than hotels or BnBs. Pulled easily with my 01 F150 and only cost me about 1-2 liters per 100km.
    Used it at one 24hr this summer, my wife has informed me that we will never be tenting at races again.

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    Awesome!

    Makes me jones to get out like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewarnerusa
    RidersofDslum,
    We have a solar panel on our small camper. It is always on and continuously charges a 12V battery mounted on the trailer tongue. Provides more than enough electricity to keep the batteries topped off, but it won't run non 12 volt electronics such as a/c or microwave. I have plugged in an inverter and used some hair clippers, though.
    I don't know any name brands, but I have seen many slide in campers for small pick ups.
    About how much did it cost to do something like that? Would it run a heater over night with a charge?

    I did a little searchy searchy last night and found a lot of small campers a ford ranger could pull. They do have slide ins for this model but they are really small and don't have bathrooms. the trailers looked better for me.

    I am sick of paying high rent to live in the mountains and having crazy roomates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidersofDslum
    About how much did it cost to do something like that? Would it run a heater over night with a charge?

    I did a little searchy searchy last night and found a lot of small campers a ford ranger could pull. They do have slide ins for this model but they are really small and don't have bathrooms. the trailers looked better for me.

    I am sick of paying high rent to live in the mountains and having crazy roomates.

    You can find lots of information on extended off grid camping here.

    http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity
    You can find lots of information on extended off grid camping here.

    http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/
    Great site, been on it for a while, those adventure trailers are sick.....
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    Going on a biking trip in a couple weeks here where we will be sleeping at the trailhead and figuring I didn't want to sleep in a tent on the ground, I found out that with my rear seats folded flat, I can sleep in the car. It's an '02 Protege5. So I guess until I can build a Teardrop, the wagon (techincally a hatchback, but it looks more like a wagon) will be my "RV".

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    back when I had no money in the 90's I camped everywhere. Now that I am older and have a family we have a 31 foot C class RV.

    like someone else said.....nothing like roughing it with a hot shower, AC, full kitchen and Satellite TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidersofDslum
    About how much did it cost to do something like that? Would it run a heater over night with a charge?

    I did a little searchy searchy last night and found a lot of small campers a ford ranger could pull. They do have slide ins for this model but they are really small and don't have bathrooms. the trailers looked better for me.

    I am sick of paying high rent to live in the mountains and having crazy roomates.
    We bought the camper used from a couple that had it put in when new. I don't know about a heater, those usually require a lot of electricity. In theory, anything you can plug into a 12V power should work because there is a cigarette lighter type outlet in the camper. When exposed to sunlight it continuously tops off the battery like a vehicle's alternator. There is a little panel inside that tells you how much voltage and current are being produced. All the fans and lights in the camper run off the 12V battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TunicaTrails
    Thanks for your comments, HotBlack. My goal on this thread was absolutely to provide some kind of retort to post after post of people unabashedly proud of what they're doing with their RVs, something I see as terrible to a tragicomic degree. The vitriolic attacks I'm getting, with folks like Prodigal Son doing their best to research my personal life, but most others just lazily saying "go f yourself," are still both just attempts to distract from the issue at hand, which is RV usage and how incredibly wasteful it is.

    I do use less resources than most of you all. There is an empirical measure of this. I could do better, but guess what, I don't have to be the Ghandi of environmentalism in order to hold my views, and neither do you all! All I'm asking is for others not to be so grossly, thoughtlessly wasteful.

    RV owners I gather could do much, much, much, much, much better.
    http://atlas.aaas.org/index.php?part=2

    Thankfully RV sales are in sharp decline, and like second hand smoke, I believe it's an issue that should continue to be chased "out of the building" like the once all-powerful tobacco lobby:
    http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...l-grade-ahead/
    http://www.rvbusiness.com/2009/06/st...bles-down-395/

    You can be certain (absolutely) that I would be living off the grid if I could afford it. Last year I talked with three contractors about it. Again, like I've said, many green strategies have their own rewards; in the long run it would save me money. I've researched hydroelectric and solar dishes too; I have a plan, I'm not going to throw up my hands because these problems seem too complex and demanding right now.

    Hey, look at Jay Leno, a man who loves his classic automobiles. He has an ancient electric car, and a new Tesla roadster. He understands the entire history of motor vehicles. His massive garage is also completely off the grid, he even sells back power to the electric company. All I have to say is, wow. If all people, of means or poor, indulged their fantasies in the intelligent, considered fashion that Mr. Leno does, we wouldn't have a problem.
    Any way we can help you get off the grid faster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TunicaTrails
    The answer to the pollution cost of solar cell production in China or anywhere: very little
    http://www.chem.uu.nl/nws/www/research/e&e/e&e_rena.htm
    Its cost could be exacerbated of course if the cells are not durable. So far, so good, and we're not talking about a massive amount of material regardless.

    RV's or other vehicles on the other hand should be used as long as possible I agree, even if they're less energy efficient than a new car. Housing, I don't know. My mother lives in a 1930s-era house with poor insulation. Very little new material has been expended to keep the house standing but it certainly leaks energy vs new energy-efficient construction.

    I prefer grid-tied solar systems. I use my small starter solar system just to power battery chargers for AA rechargable batteries and so on. The ideal with a large grid-tied system would be to generate more electricity than you use overall and sell it back to the power company during the day, not for the small change it'd earn of course, but being your own zero-emissions power company. Show me an RV covered with solar panels and I'll be duly impressed.

    I would counter that it's easier to question the source of criticism than it is to more accurately judge what we all know is going on. When we dissolve into relativism, there's a danger of shrugging the whole sustainability thing off with "it's quite too complicated." I'm not going to do that. Kudos to guys like sean salach who also have details of a plan to improve their own environmental impact (and quality of life). That's how you get it done.
    Holy crap, shut your whiney ass! I grew up in south La (Lafayette) and all of the trails south of Ruston SUCK. You live in the land of morons, dude. Like you said, it's your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity
    I am going to let my rig idle for an hour each time you post. .

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    Here's my current setup: 2008 Nissan Xterra pulling a Fleetwood Americana tent trailer. As you can see, I have two cartop boxes mounted on the tent trailer for storing all the camping gear and firewood, and I've modified my Thule Ridgeline hitch mount rack to work with a Valley double receiver. Works perfectly.








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    Quote Originally Posted by chiplikestoridehisbike
    Here are some photos of the SylvanSport Go





    A very cool pop up that is designed for outdoor sports. Only weighs 800lbs. Kind of a base camp tent on a trailer. It is set up to accept standard bike rack rails.The pop up can be pulled low or high to give you an option to pull motorcycles or larger gear. There is a great pdf and flash presentation on their web page. http://www.sylvansport.com Starts at $6,200
    That think is exactly what i have been looking for. I got rid of my truck to get a subaru. The MPG on the truck was killing me. Now i need something really light that i can trailer for camping. But not kill my MPG on longer trips.

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    In the intrests of....

    Keeping this thread on track...

    I debated all kinds of options after using my mom's 27ft class C for 2 trips to Moab (2 weeks once, and then 1 week). Trailer...I lusted after an Airstream...too expensive...even the little tent convertible one. Thought about a pop up. But, I liked being able to get a sandwich on the side of the road. Ain't happening with a pop up trailer. Thought about a Class B. Found out about the 4x4 Sportsmobile van conversion....COOL! But way EXPENSIVE.

    I also get moved around on average every 2 years for work and have other toys I prefer to take with me. So, being able to tow with my camping rig was a priority. But, I hate towing and prefer not to do it. Don't like the decreased maneuverability when towing. I also wanted to be comfortable in May in Moab....and December in Yosemite or somewhere else playing in the snow.

    I normally camp away from CGs...near as possible to trail heads. I have a 110W solar panel that keeps my batteries topped off and only have an issue if I park under shade.

    This is my solution.



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    1968 boler camper

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    What kind of travel rigs do the rest of you have?
    Not mine, but sure has style points!

    http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie....php?id=845560


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    Probably the most famous pick-up camper ever, John Steinbeck's Rocinante.
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    Truly a wealth of useless information.


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    Just have to figure out how to get the bikes on it




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    ... and if we just ... My Restored 61' aristocrat

    A friend of mine lived in this while going college. It was up on blocks and painted white. Took some work to get it into this condition. I'm thinking of mounting a repair rack and bench on back. I put a shower,full kitchen ,table ,ac/heat, microwave , tv, dvd and a foldout fullsize bed inside. Great for mtb trips.

    Klay, love the VW rv...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderoo222
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    Wow that looks nice! Interior shots please!

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    Towing it with an Xterra

    (Does the TV antenna fold down?)

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    More pics

    Yep, The antenna folds down. I hope to get satellite eventually, But the antenna looks cool! My wife and mother in-law made the curtains.
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    That's a very cool trailer, wanderoo222
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderoo222
    A friend of mine lived in this while going college. It was up on blocks and painted white. Took some work to get it into this condition. I'm thinking of mounting a repair rack and bench on back. I put a shower,full kitchen ,table ,ac/heat, microwave , tv, dvd and a foldout fullsize bed inside. Great for mtb trips.

    Klay, love the VW rv...

    That thing rocks. Nice work. My brother has the same model. I sent him pics of yours as inspiration.
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    61 aristocrat

    DJ, I'd like to see pics of your brothers rv. I didn't take any "before" pics. I have not been able to fine anyone with pics of this model of rv on the net. Where does he live? thanks

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    I've joined the club!!! Here is a pic of my 07 VW Jetta 2.5 and my 07 Little Guy 5 Wide Platform in Sedona AZ last week.

    http://www.golittleguy.com/teardrops...wide-platform/

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    Good job!

    Very nice, Teardrops are way cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klay



    TIGHT!!!!!! I love it. My wife would choke me out if I brought that home.

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    Oh yeah, has anyone with a pop up had to repair the canvas? I've got my eye on a 6' unit but the canvas has torn near one of the seams that slide into the frame and one of the windows is cut. Just wondering what the repair cost might be. The canvas looks pretty recent otherwise.

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    It could still be yours!!!

    http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie....php?id=846711

    I think the price keeps going down, maybe in a few weeks they would pay someone to take it.


    Quote Originally Posted by thebronze
    TIGHT!!!!!! I love it. My wife would choke me out if I brought that home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred-da-trog
    I'm perfectly happy camping in a tent. My wife is not. We have a 5th wheel that looks like all the others.

    I spotted this diamond in the rough at a storage yard.

    It's so ugly it's beautiful.
    WHOA!!! I WANT!!!! That is one awseome RV

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    The Wife and I have use different set up depending on where we are going. While I miss our old pop up we no longer have it, a good buddy of ours does. Here are a few pics of the different ways





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    A good read...

    Here's a good take on the joys of lil trailer like our Trail Mite...Bolers, Scamps, Casitas, Escapes, etc.

    Sometimes less is more. Sometimes less is just enough.

    http://www.naturalhomemagazine.com/P...of-Wisdom.aspx


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    Bigfoot - Did you ever rig up your shower for your trailer? Wondering how that turned out. I have an opportunity to buy a '78 Boler locally and trying to collect some info on these little things.

    Thanks,

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    No...

    Quote Originally Posted by lanpope
    Bigfoot - Did you ever rig up your shower for your trailer? Wondering how that turned out. I have an opportunity to buy a '78 Boler locally and trying to collect some info on these little things.

    Thanks,

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    No, I never did the shower mod. Instead I got a collasible shower enclosure and a sun shower, which allows us more freedom as to where we use it. When we're boondocking for instance, it's easier and more private to be able to go hang the enclosure and shower in a tree nearby. I do plan on still getting a propane water heater, though. Sometimes there's just not enough sunlight to get the sun shower up to a usable temp.

    For more information on Bolers, Scamps, etc., than you ever thought possible, visit www.fiberglassrv.com.

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    Too bad about all the anti-RV sentiment. Anyway, this rig works well for us. Sometimes we don't go home for months at a time.Name:  68 C11 and Cherokee.JPG
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    It all looked so flat on Google Earth!

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    We just bought a tent trailer this summer. Must find a way for the trailer and bikes to co-exist since our bike hauler is normlaly a Thule T2 which we obviously can't use when pulling the trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donalson
    back to the topic at hand...

    not an RV... but I realy dig the idea of a trailer... pop ups for the fuel economy... but is what I realy want to build is a teardrop trailer... it's a small step up from a tent... and can be pulled by just about anything depending on how you build it (and I would build it myself none of this buying it from someone else bit
    can build them with a mini bunk bed in them if you plan on it... just enough to be not sleeping in a tent...
    I have a MINI Cooper, and I hate tent camping. I would really like to have a TearDrop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade-Runner
    I've joined the club!!! Here is a pic of my 07 VW Jetta 2.5 and my 07 Little Guy 5 Wide Platform in Sedona AZ last week.

    http://www.golittleguy.com/teardrops...wide-platform/
    Yes! I have been looking at building my own, the Little guy 5wide platform or the Little Guy Silver Shadow Series. I am a little put off by the Galley of the 5 wide. Do you have any pics of the Galley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjenkins@
    Yes! I have been looking at building my own, the Little guy 5wide platform or the Little Guy Silver Shadow Series. I am a little put off by the Galley of the 5 wide. Do you have any pics of the Galley?
    I'll try and take some pics tomorrow and post them up for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumanji
    We just bought a tent trailer this summer. Must find a way for the trailer and bikes to co-exist since our bike hauler is normlaly a Thule T2 which we obviously can't use when pulling the trailer.

    Time for a roof rack unless the trailer tongue is long enough to clamp the T2 without pinching the bikes on the sharp turns (something like GpzGuy earlier in this thread). Or, both our truck and Jeep have front receiver hitches so the bikes can ride out front when they aren't on the roof. I don't recommend the front mount at night.

    Happy campering!
    It all looked so flat on Google Earth!

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    Oooh....

    Quote Originally Posted by avion.nomad
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    What brand of camper is that? Looks very Air Stream-ish....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade-Runner
    I'll try and take some pics tomorrow and post them up for you.
    Thanks man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot
    What brand of camper is that? Looks very Air Stream-ish....


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    Avion made them in the 60's and early 70's.
    It all looked so flat on Google Earth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumanji
    We just bought a tent trailer this summer. Must find a way for the trailer and bikes to co-exist since our bike hauler is normlaly a Thule T2 which we obviously can't use when pulling the trailer.
    Hey Jumanji,

    If you have wood hard top roof, what you can do is build you one of these cheap and easy:
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    Enough...
    more pics of RV please!

    yes, thank you, sweet ass RV btw................

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    This ought to silence the critics.

    Thought I'd bump this old thread with these pics. Looks cool, but not sure I'd take it on a trip across Colorado!
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    great rigs for camping, thanks for sharing . I will add mine when I get a chance.
    I want to take this time to NOT thank the people that didn't read the title of the post, it wasn't ; angry tree huggers chime in on the waste in america ,it was people that love mtb and what they camp in. =Wrong place

    Thanks to all that to the time to share


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    great rigs for camping, thanks for sharing . I will add mine when I get a chance.
    I want to take this time to NOT thank the people that didn't read the title of the post and speaking of waste, time / space/ ranting about xyz it wasn't ; angry tree huggers chime in on the waste in america,it was people that love mtb and what they camp in. =Wrong place

    Thanks to all that took the time to share...


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    sorry my bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by vtarider
    great rigs for camping, thanks for sharing . I will add mine when I get a chance.
    I want to take this time to NOT thank the people that didn't read the title of the post and speaking of waste, time / space/ ranting about xyz it wasn't ; angry tree huggers chime in on the waste in america,it was people that love mtb and what they camp in. =Wrong place

    Thanks to all that took the time to share...


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    I mean, I'm an angry tree hugger, but I think campers are sweet. Its not like you commute 50 miles each way to work in them on a daily basis. Nothing wrong with burning some extra dino juice to go appreciate the woods, get out doors, put down the frickin Playstation and experience some other worlds.

    I fantasize about owning a camper someday, but in reality I probably will never have space to park it, and won't get enough use out if it to justify it.

    I love Westys. The nicest one I have seen is the one in Berkeley that has AWD syncro, and was upgraded with a Jetta 1.8 turbo engine. They guy says it actually gets better gas mileage than stock, but had double the power.

    This one:

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    This thing is my wet dream. If it had ABS and Airbags, and I had the cash to burn, I would be all over building one.

    Somebody also posted a few small camping trailers that were under 1500 pounds, so my Audi can tow it. I already have the trailer hitch for the bike rack. I would just need the lighting harness. That is probably the best solution for me... I mean... apart from just pitching a tent and sleeping on the ground.
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    We just got a Coleman Evolution E3, a toyhauler popup. Mounted Yakima blockhead mounts to the Toy deck for bikes. Works awesome - keep them off the roof for better mileage/clearance, Bonus w/ the offroad style popups is way better ground clearance, much heavier duty frame construction and i can haul 41 gal of water along with a ton of gear. The propane furnace was great too - kept things a toasty 65 inside while it was subzero outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumanji
    We just bought a tent trailer this summer. Must find a way for the trailer and bikes to co-exist since our bike hauler is normlaly a Thule T2 which we obviously can't use when pulling the trailer.
    The way I see it you've got two choices really:
    1) Bike rack on top of the minivan
    2) Bike rack on top of the trailer.

    Personally I would like Option 2 becasue it is actually very easy to (permanently) mount crossbars to the top of the tent trailer and they are versatile... you can also mount a cargo box to them.

    I didn't go either route because I have cargo boxes mounted on the trailer, and my Xterra is too tall to easily mount a bike rack on top and get the bikes up there after a long ride.

    I wouldn't recommend my solution with your minivan though, not without at least a Class III two-inch hitch receiver and beafing up the rear suspension:




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    Wow, funny that this ol' thread would get a bump. By Saturday we'll be in Yosemite with our Trail Mite.
    Nine days of hammock-hanging, hiking, a bit o' road riding and book reading.

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    We get right up onto the Mesa (Gooseberry) with our Class A. It's a slow process but we have good ground clearance and it's nice to ride right from "home" directly onto the slickrock and trail system.
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    My old trailer: Little Guy 5wide



    And my new travel trailer: 2011 Keystone Passport 195rd



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    ^ ^ ^ ^ Looks like your weight distributing hitch isn't quite taking enough load from the back to the front (unless your front end always sits that high)?

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    I figure in 2 to 3 years i will buy an RV of some kind. With a newborn on the way i don't see us traveling much. Also my folks have a classic GMC motorhome i can grab at any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffj View Post
    ^ ^ ^ ^ Looks like your weight distributing hitch isn't quite taking enough load from the back to the front (unless your front end always sits that high)?
    Ya the back end sits a little lower than the front without the trailer.
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    2007 Fleetwood Nitrous Hyperlite.... sleeps 8 (3 queens and 2 twins). Only ever me and the GF but its been great. Used primarily for trips to Ocotillo or Glamis with other toys. But its great to be able to go anywhere you want and not need to find a room or worry about it being too cold or windy for a tent.



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    Everything about this trailer is awesome....including the price! Yikes!
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    We just put the bikes in our 1979 Wanderlodge, nothing fancy yet. Anyone want to help with my diesel bill?! That Cat 3208T sure likes to drink, I think liquor may be cheaper!
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    We just bought a vintage teardrop trailer.
    it a usable as is/restoration project
    it a WAWA made in belgium en 1958...

    we tried it last weekend at kingdom trails... its great!
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    expensive cars are a waste of money. Expensive bikes...not so much!

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    Aliner Expedition

    Some great look units out there folks.

    I recently picked up an Aliner Expedition. It tows beautifully behind my Tacoma and has plenty of room for 2.

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    18' travel trailer just large enough for me, my wife, kid and dogs. I pull with a 2004 Dodge 2500 4X4 diesel, I know its overkill but love the power. Would post picture but can't figure it out right now

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    Love our '03 diesel Sprinter LTV. We bought it used and have put 30K miles on it in two years. Perfect getaway/weekend vehicle for my wife and I and our two dogs. Kayaks go on top, bikes go on the back. For biking or kayaking, it's great to have a place to change into our gear. It's got a fridge to keep the food and drinks cold, and a microwave or gas stove to heat something up. It does have a bathroom/shower, but we usually use that for wet clothing and storage and only use the toilet on long trips.

    It gets 20 mpg all day long, so we never have second thoughts about how much long distance trips are going to cost us. That and the 26 gallon tank give us lots of distance between fill ups, usually start looking for a station at the 500 mile mark. We've even started using it for weekend errands, it's easy to drive and park and it's a lot roomier for the dogs than the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosslager View Post
    2007 Fleetwood Nitrous Hyperlite.... sleeps 8 (3 queens and 2 twins). Only ever me and the GF but its been great. Used primarily for trips to Ocotillo or Glamis with other toys. But its great to be able to go anywhere you want and not need to find a room or worry about it being too cold or windy for a tent.



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    I see Mosslager is on MTBR too.
    I tote a 26 front sleeper Toyhauler.
    Works great for moab too
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    We have a 28' triple-bunk trailer with front queen bedroom. Towed by an '06 Chevy 2500hd crew LBZ Duramax. No pics 'cuz it is just an average looking box pulled by a gray truck. There sure are some cool-looking setups on here, though.

    It is mostly used for family camping trips -- we have 3 little kids -- which we try to do at least every other weekend from May -- October, with a couple week-longs mixed in. After our first extended camping trip w/ little kids, my wife said she isn't doing that ever again. The trailer was a compromise (I never had interest in one before), and it has worked out very well. It sure is nice to head out without having to worry about weather and keeping the little ones warm and dry for the night.

    But it does make a great base for the occasional guys' trip to Moab, too. Yeah, I see the looks from the Subie-driving tent campers when I pull in to Sand Flats w/ the diesel and big trailer. But after a day on Porcupine in 90*, it sure is nice to have a quick shower and sleep in an actual bed, rather than covered in dry sweat and sand on the ground in a tent! Worth the looks and the price of diesel for me. Plus, I can haul 5-6 guys + bikes and gear down for the weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosslager View Post
    2007 Fleetwood Nitrous Hyperlite.... sleeps 8 (3 queens and 2 twins). Only ever me and the GF but its been great. Used primarily for trips to Ocotillo or Glamis with other toys. But its great to be able to go anywhere you want and not need to find a room or worry about it being too cold or windy for a tent.



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    Where are those pics mosslager? Colorado? Looks awesome...
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    Thats the Mammoth area

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    Quote Originally Posted by avion.nomad View Post
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    That is a great set up! Any interior shots?

    Quote Originally Posted by tartosuc View Post
    We just bought a vintage teardrop trailer.
    it a usable as is/restoration project
    it a WAWA made in belgium en 1958...

    we tried it last weekend at kingdom trails... its great!
    Never seen one of those before, does the inside pop up for more room?

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    We have a 2007 Dodge Sprinter/ Winnebago 24 footer RV. It is a nice 6cyl turbo diesel unit that will sleep 5. This was on a trip to San Diego and my bike was tired so I tied it up in the horse stall to rest.

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    33' Rockwood

    The family loves camping if you can still call it that gives me a good excuse to find some new trails now and then.
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    Not there yet but the 10 year plan is to get the kids off to college then semi-retire in one of these.


    Yes it's an airstream, with a garage. That's what I call a win win.

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    Curious if anyone out there has an 80's "Mini Winnie" style RV. Looking at 20-24' gas models, there are some very good deals to be had. Just wanted some opinions on mileage, what to look out for etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopwhoop View Post
    Curious if anyone out there has an 80's "Mini Winnie" style RV. Looking at 20-24' gas models, there are some very good deals to be had. Just wanted some opinions on mileage, what to look out for etc
    I get about 8mpg in mine. It has a 460 but I don't think ones with smaller engines do much better. People seem to have trouble with the transmissions at over 80k. Other than making sure everything works, check the tires. Replacing 6 of them is pricy.
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    my Tacoma, airstream and bikes.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lokomonkey View Post
    my Tacoma, airstream and bikes.....
    Too bad that Airstream dropped that model. They only made that for what...one year? I've seen a couple and their owners really liked them.
    An all-in-one cubicle bathroom (toilet, sink, shower) would make that design perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Too bad that Airstream dropped that model. They only made that for what...one year? I've seen a couple and their owners really liked them.
    An all-in-one cubicle bathroom (toilet, sink, shower) would make that design perfect!

    not really, I don't want to deal with a toilet when I'm on vacation, and shower it has the connection for the outside shower, which doubles as bike wash...they made that model for 3 years, and turn out the cost was too high for the target group that it was intended.... we love it, is also a toy hauler, and can't beat Airstream craftsmanship or quality

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    Just about done building my trailer. Pretty much got tired of packing the truck full of camp gear and not having room for the dogs or extra passengers. Now we can keep it all in the trailer, hookup and go.
    It started off as a rusty old M100 military trailer. The frame and axle were still in good shape so I built a new tub, lid and a rack for the RTT. Also beefed up the frame a bit and made a bumper with a 2" receiver for my bike rack or BBQ stand. Been a fun project, actually building another one...
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    Pop-Up Rules!

    Another pop-up camper. Though, ours is smaller and kind of primitive compared to many, it's great. Towing with a mini-suv is easy. I think the ultimate for us would be a a bigger hard-sided pop up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Westy View Post
    Ours is a 2002 VW Eurovan.

    Sold the EVWK and bought a Livinlite Quicksilver 10.0 with an 18" longer tongue that standard... works great with the 1upusa rack!



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    I forgot about this thread. We just got this monster for the family. I've got 280 watts of solar on the roof to keep the batteries charged and a pure sine wave inverter to power electronics. It's roughing it for sure...

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    Anyone have a North Shore Rack on their RV?

    We just purchased our first 5th wheel trailer this summer and are looking at how we can safely put the bikes on it. The North Shore Racks look very intriguing. Just wanted to know who else might have done this or thought of doing this?

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