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    Colorado. IIRC Gothic Road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    Disc Dog, let me know how it works. My brother has a new Jeep with the factory hitch and is wondering if the 1up will work.
    Finally got around to getting some pics of the rack on my Rubicon. It definitely needed an extension to clear the spare tire with the factory hitch and still be able to use both trays and fold it up when not in use. I am able to squeeze a bike on the first tray if I only insert the rack a little bit. However, my pedal makes contact with the spare tire even in this position. If I'm just hauling one bike, I think I'll use it direct into the receiver with no extension and just put the bike on the outside tray. I had a 12" extension from my old TJ but that stuck out way too far for my liking. So, I picked up this receiver/hitch mount and locking hitch pin and so far its working great, very solid--little to no wobble/bounce.
    This rack is amazing!! The guys at the LBS were in awe with the design and function...
    Highly recommend this rack!!
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    1Up on Wrangler JK

    I have the same problem....my 2009 Wrangler has the Rugged Ridge 2" hitch receiver, which is basically the same as the OEM. With this hitch, I don't have enough clearance to fold up the rack fully. However, instead of buying an extender, I bought a Hidden Hitch 2" receiver, which is approx. 3.5" longer than the Rugged Ridge. I haven't installed it yet, but by my measurements and judging from other pictures that I've seen, the extra 3.5" will be sufficient to allow the rack to be fully folded up and provide enough clearance

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    Hauled two road bikes this weekend for a total of 500 miles with no problems at all. Only thing I still dislike about the rack is that it is a pain to tilt it down with bikes loaded.

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    Well, had received my 1 up rack yesterday, 4day shipping time, good...half to admit, the rack is just about as heavy as my old rack with the two tray...that is some heavy duty aluminum...the good news, I travel with 1 bike most of the time....Quality is second to none...black finish is worth the extra cost....I beleive this is the best rack currently on the market...the module design is great, with each additional bike module being elevated makes it even better...now if someone can tell me how to upload pictures to this site...I will take some pictures...I do not understand, when this site wants a URL for the image..

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    Mine should be in this thursday , i bought the hidden hitch from etrailer to put on my 2012 jeep GC .. Ill get some pix hopefully friday.

    Pedaldown : Go ahead and upload your pix on an image sharing website or a place to upload your pix. Such as imageshack.us or whatever you would use. After that , copy the direct image link where you uploaded your pic(s) and apply it here when its ask for the URL .

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    As far as functionality goes, how is this rack better than the Kuat NV? Is the 1up hitch mount aluminum or steel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbrain View Post
    crux and wormvine- You two need a lesson in economics. Plenty of people are buying their racks. If you don't feel that the product is worth the cost then don't buy it, that's how it works. Spend $150 less on your Yak/Thule, and then buy another one in a few years when the plastic is cracking and the bolts are all rusted.

    There isn't a single piece of plastic on the thing. I had yakima roof racks on my Jeep, and after a couple years in Oregon most of the exposed metal is rusted. The 1up is aluminum and stainless. In addition to attaching to car quickly, the bikes mount super duper fast. When I get to the lot I take my bike off and throw a leg over and I'm on the trail. When I get back in the cold rain, I don't stand there messing with wheels and straps, just throw it on the rack and I'm out before my friends have even managed to weave the strap between the spokes. Its probably half the weight of the Yakima, with the option of running one bike which is nice for me because most of the time its me and the dog. You can very easily take it off, fold it up, and stick it in the trunk so some f@cktard doesn't hit it. However, I had left mine on and someone did hit it and 1up is sending me the replacement part for free.

    In the grand scheme of money I have spent on this hobby, this rack is well worth the extra $150. I bet if I factor in the 10 minutes/trip I save using this rack... at an average engineering consulting fee I make that $150 back in less than 6 months. No question.


    I think it's awesome that you feel compelled to bash others via some internet message board - don't take out your hum-drum Oregon weather frustrations on the rest of the world.

    That being said, it is pretty clear that 1up has a nice product but it is also pretty clear they are asking a premium price for what it is (utilitarian).To your point about economics, if they made more racks, the consumer would see a cheaper price (i.e., economies of scale); but to suggest that other racks don't last a year is ludicrous. Also, there are other companies that use aluminum, which, btw, can also oxidize (you must know that as an engineering CONSULTANT though).

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    Aluminum oxidizes...

    But unlike steel, it oxidizes in a way that seals itself and stops the reaction. It won't rust away and fall apart like iron/steel. That's part of why they make sailboat masts out of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by fish0281 View Post
    As far as functionality goes, how is this rack better than the Kuat NV? Is the 1up hitch mount aluminum or steel?

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    I think it's awesome that you feel compelled to bash others via some internet message board - don't take out your hum-drum Oregon weather frustrations on the rest of the world.

    That being said, it is pretty clear that 1up has a nice product but it is also pretty clear they are asking a premium price for what it is (utilitarian).To your point about economics, if they made more racks, the consumer would see a cheaper price (i.e., economies of scale); but to suggest that other racks don't last a year is ludicrous. Also, there are other companies that use aluminum, which, btw, can also oxidize (you must know that as an engineering CONSULTANT though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Mine should be in this thursday , i bought the hidden hitch from etrailer to put on my 2012 jeep GC .. Ill get some pix hopefully friday.
    Here's some pics of the rack on my wife's '12 Grand Cherokee with OEM hitch/receiver...fits perfect, looks great! You are gonna love it!
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    Looks good man thanks ! How does the quality of the rack feel and the locks on it etc? I have a downhill bike i will be transporting so i need the extra strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Disc Dog View Post
    Here's some pics of the rack on my wife's '12 Grand Cherokee with OEM hitch/receiver...fits perfect, looks great! You are gonna love it!

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    Aside from the general sticker shock, I also am wondering what is up with this:

    1up Quick-Rack 2 Bike = $530

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    1up Quick-Rack ($300) + 1up Quick-Rack Add-on ($200) = $500

    If the $30 difference is due to labor and "it takes only 10 seconds to mount each Add-On," then they are charging something like $10,800/hr and I'd like a 1up assembler job please! Not that $30 is a big deal, it's more about the virtue of it and since this rack is already pricey...


    I'm also still curious if anyone can tell me how the 1up is better than a Kuat (NV or Sherpa)... sorry if it has recently been covered in one of the 10+ pages in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish0281 View Post
    Aside from the general sticker shock, I also am wondering what is up with this:

    1up Quick-Rack 2 Bike = $530

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    1up Quick-Rack ($300) + 1up Quick-Rack Add-on ($200) = $500

    If the $30 difference is due to labor and "it takes only 10 seconds to mount each Add-On," then they are charging something like $10,800/hr and I'd like a 1up assembler job please! Not that $30 is a big deal, it's more about the virtue of it and since this rack is already pricey...


    I'm also still curious if anyone can tell me how the 1up is better than a Kuat (NV or Sherpa)... sorry if it has recently been covered in one of the 10+ pages in this thread.
    The 2 bike rack is made to fit a 2" receiver ONLY as well as the 2nd bike tray is not an add-on - it's permanent. It's heavier, obviously, than the Quick Rack (48 vs 25lbs). The QuickRack fits a 1 1/4" receiver (but it comes with a 2" receiver adapter) and is built as a 1 bike rack. An add-on can be purchased to make it a 2 bike (or another add-on to make it a 3bike) but it can be run as a 1bike rack most of the time if that's what you normally do. I like the Quick Rack since 90% of the time I transport one bike only and the thing is light enough to be no trouble at all to remove after every ride and store it off the vehicle. I can definitely see myself not being so keen on handling a 48lb rack after every ride and would probably just leave it on permanently.

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    Ahh, ok, thanks. That makes a lot more sense. Dang, 48lbs is a lot of weight, but I'm in the opposite boat of most in that the only times I *need to use a rack is when I have more than 1 bike.

    Also, it's disconcerting that there isn't a hitch pin - there's a reason everything on your car is bolted together and even then stuff comes undone. That eliminates 1up as an option for me.


    Quote Originally Posted by campisi View Post
    The 2 bike rack is made to fit a 2" receiver ONLY as well as the 2nd bike tray is not an add-on - it's permanent. It's heavier, obviously, than the Quick Rack (48 vs 25lbs). The QuickRack fits a 1 1/4" receiver (but it comes with a 2" receiver adapter) and is built as a 1 bike rack. An add-on can be purchased to make it a 2 bike (or another add-on to make it a 3bike) but it can be run as a 1bike rack most of the time if that's what you normally do. I like the Quick Rack since 90% of the time I transport one bike only and the thing is light enough to be no trouble at all to remove after every ride and store it off the vehicle. I can definitely see myself not being so keen on handling a 48lb rack after every ride and would probably just leave it on permanently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish0281 View Post
    Ahh, ok, thanks. That makes a lot more sense. Dang, 48lbs is a lot of weight, but I'm in the opposite boat of most in that the only times I *need to use a rack is when I have more than 1 bike.

    Also, it's disconcerting that there isn't a hitch pin - there's a reason everything on your car is bolted together and even then stuff comes undone. That eliminates 1up as an option for me.
    Let me put it this way:

    has anybody on these boards.... or anybody at 1Up ever heard of one of these racks even working loose?

    No?

    It's not a real world problem. Sometimes, it feels like the bolt isn't as tight as when I first snugged it up (but still tight), but the 1Up suport folks tell me that it's because the ball makes a slight dent inside the receiver. It's still well locked in place.

    I've left my rack on the back of my car for months on end, and it never even wiggles in the receiver. No tap-dance, no slop, nuthin.

    It's like an old quill bike stem. They only came out if the bonehead who installed it forgot to tighten the bolt.

    It's like worrying that a meteor is going to fall out of the sky and take you out. Heck, I think that has a greater chance of happening.

    To answer your previous question as to which is better, I seriously considered a Kuat, but decided against it because you can't adjust the bike's position side to side like you can with a 1Up.

    If you have seat/handlebar interference issues on the Kuat, you're stuck with removing or adjusting seats to make it work. Also, I did not see anything that would say it was 29er compatible, although it probably is. Seems that it locks one wheel in place in the tray, then you strap down the other wheel at whatever angle that makes it fit.

    Also, the 1Up folds down pretty tightly. I keep my rack in the trunk of my A4 sedan (or wagon, if I have my wife's car) and like it to stay out of the way as much as possible. I have a lot of junk in the trunk. Bike gear, work parts, etc. That is what basically motivated me to upgrade from the Thule T2. I didn't have room to keep it inside my car unless I folded my rear seat down flat... and I have two kiddie rocket chairs back there for hauling the kiddles to preschool. Total PITA to move all of that around.

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    Anybody here carry 3 bikes (total wt of bikes around 80lbs) with 1 1/4" hitch with rated max tongue wt 200lbs? I want to hear from people here who use it this way b4 i will order my third rack

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish0281 View Post
    Also, it's disconcerting that there isn't a hitch pin - there's a reason everything on your car is bolted together and even then stuff comes undone. That eliminates 1up as an option for me.
    there's a strap for a secondary attachment. anyway, no-one on this 37-page thread has ever reported the bolt coming loose.
    whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Looks good man thanks ! How does the quality of the rack feel and the locks on it etc? I have a downhill bike i will be transporting so i need the extra strength
    This thing is very solid!! you will not be disappointed...once its locked on it doesn't move. The bars that lock onto the wheels do not loosen up at all while driving. Plus the best part, it comes fully assembled ready to go!! Can't go wrong with this rack...Will be putting it to the test in June with a trip from LA to IN, hauling two bikes on the GC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu Boy View Post
    Anybody here carry 3 bikes (total wt of bikes around 80lbs) with 1 1/4" hitch with rated max tongue wt 200lbs? I want to hear from people here who use it this way b4 i will order my third rack
    I think you have to pay attention to the hitch rating - and that's the problem. But I believe the 80lbs is well within the weight rating of the 1.25" receiver, is it not?

    However, I do routinely carry 4 bikes on my 1 1/4" version mounted in a 2" hitch for 2500 mile trips. The rack will do it and was rated to do that for years until they came out with the 2" one. It's the hitch receiver that's the issue. That has been with 4 30lb mountain bikes as well as 4 road bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu Boy View Post
    Anybody here carry 3 bikes (total wt of bikes around 80lbs) with 1 1/4" hitch with rated max tongue wt 200lbs? I want to hear from people here who use it this way b4 i will order my third rack
    I think this also depends on your car.

    With just two racks and two bikes on my car with a 200 lb tongue weight, the rear end of my car sags pretty far. With a 3rd rack and bike it would definitely be dragging.

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    Damn the anticipation ! LOL .... I will be putting my rack to use this weekend Ill report back with an update on how well it did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irv_usc View Post
    I think this also depends on your car.

    With just two racks and two bikes on my car with a 200 lb tongue weight, the rear end of my car sags pretty far. With a 3rd rack and bike it would definitely be dragging.
    what car do you have? i have 99 accord coupe v6 but not sure whats the max load in the back (trunk). 85lbs for 3 bikes + 65lbs for the 3 bike trays. total 150lbs is still under the tongue weight limit but the rack will stick out about 36" and i think this will make the load heavier than 150lbs due to some leverage force. most of the time the driving distance to the trails around my area is about 30-45mins.

    need any input before i will order my 3rd bike tray. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu Boy View Post
    what car do you have? i have 99 accord coupe v6 but not sure whats the max load in the back (trunk). 85lbs for 3 bikes + 65lbs for the 3 bike trays. total 150lbs is still under the tongue weight limit but the rack will stick out about 36" and i think this will make the load heavier than 150lbs due to some leverage force. most of the time the driving distance to the trails around my area is about 30-45mins.

    need any input before i will order my 3rd bike tray. thanks.
    Call 1UpUSA. They have looked at receiver and receiver specs and have translated them into specs for their racks. Receiver specs are pretty nailed down into Class 1, 2 and 3 so that shouldn't be an issue.

    Two years ago, they only used to sell the version that is now the 1.25" version that accepts the 2" adaptor. That was used for both 1.25 and 2" receivers and for 1 to 4 bikes. They limited that to 3 bikes for the 1.25" version and then started selling the 2" version for 4 bikes simply because of the receiver specs and they were catching heat from their competition who claimed it was dangerous to put 4 bikes on the 1.25" receiver. That's probably correct, but it's on the user anyhow to understand their receiver spec and load the rack accordingly.

    But, you'll notice, that there is nothing stopping you mechanically from adding additional kits as long as you want (although quickly it becomes ridiculous).

    So, ask 1UpUSA. They'll tell you what the rating on the receiver needs to be to take 3 bikes with a 1.25" rack and receiver. You'll be fine with that and I'd not worry about it at all since both the rack and the hitch have more than ample safety margins since both mfgs are going to have covered themselves in the event that someone overloads things.

    FWIW, I've had the 1.25" version that was marketed for both 1.25 and 2" receivers with up to 4 bikes at a total of 250lbs in a 2" hitch. It's the exact same rack that is today sold only for 3 bikes in a 1.25" hitch. I routinely and annually use it for a 2500 mile round trip family bike trip with 4 bikes on it at 80+mph highway speeds back and forth from Minnesota to Colorado. It's been fine and it works great. The rack would be even better with 3 bikes and it would be well below it's capabilities.

    The total answer will be the receiver on your car. That has a hard and fast spec that it has to meet (probably Class 1). If it meets that, and you for peace of mind should call that mfg or at least verify the spec and then verify it with 1UpUSA, you will be just fine.

    As for your vehicle, how it's suspension is set up is probably more of an issue - but I'd be surprised if it doesn't work ok. 1UpUSA has a money back guarantee so order the extra kit and try it with the three bikes. If it's fine, keep it. If not, send it back.

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    "Call 1UpUSA. They have looked at receiver and receiver specs and have translated them into specs for their racks. Receiver specs are pretty nailed down into Class 1, 2 and 3 so that shouldn't be an issue. "

    It's not just the receiver specs that matter. A lot of people are putting these receivers on unibody car frames. Personally, my application is a Subaru forester and my hitch RECEIVER is rated at 400lbs but the Forester's flimsy unibody is only rated for 200lbs tongue weight. Weakest link in the chain kind of thing. Everyone should be sure to check their particular vehicle's rating for this. Calling 1 Up to verify is a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by campisi View Post
    "Call 1UpUSA. They have looked at receiver and receiver specs and have translated them into specs for their racks. Receiver specs are pretty nailed down into Class 1, 2 and 3 so that shouldn't be an issue. "

    It's not just the receiver specs that matter. A lot of people are putting these receivers on unibody car frames. Personally, my application is a Subaru forester and my hitch RECEIVER is rated at 300lbs but the Forester's flimsy unibody is only rated for 200lbs tongue weight. Weakest link in the chain kind of thing. Everyone should be sure to check their particular vehicle's rating for this. Calling 1 Up to verify is a good idea.
    This is my issue.. I want to put a hitch on my 01 Forester and I have actually found a 2" hitch for it but of course I am dealing with the unibody of the Forester as the weakest link.. And for the record, I am not going to use the 2" for anything major.. I have just owned trucks, and a Expedition for while and every accessory that I own is all 2 inch, I am not about to stick any of my bike racks into a 1 1/4 to 2" adaptor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish0281 View Post
    Also, it's disconcerting that there isn't a hitch pin - there's a reason everything on your car is bolted together and even then stuff comes undone. That eliminates 1up as an option for me.
    Um. You're not towing with it. There are no horizontal loads pulling the rack away from the vehicle. There's only downward force. To put it in perspective for you...I did a dumbass thing the other day. I took my 1up off (both trays at once instead of 1 at a time) when moving to get in and out of my SUV hatch easier. In my haste I put the rack back on with 2 trays at once and forgot to tighten the expander bolt. I drove around for 2 days with it like this (including 1 highway drive) before I ever needed to use it to put a bike on. When I went to put the bike on I noticed it was wobbling all over the place. I exclaimed "OH SH*T!" and counted my blessings it never flew out of my hitch, then hastily tightened that bolt. The point of this story is, even just sitting in there completely loose without bikes on it, it never moved. It didn't even slide a mm.

    You obviously could never pull a trailer/boat/etc on this type of interface, but it works just fine for a bike rack. It also eliminates any vertical and side to side movement.
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    The fact that the primary load isn't in the direction of fitment doesn't matter - when you throw in all the vibration, loads are constantly being translated in every direction. Go take a look at a product that goes through a packaging test on a shaker table, things break/bend/scratch where you would never believe.

    Also, I get it that nobody on this 37 page has had one fall out... but someone please tell me why you would *not* have a hitch pin incorporated into the design? It's cheap, simple, and fail safe. Sure, you can strap the rack to the car, but that won't keep the thing off the pavement if/when it does come loose.

    Someone else mentioned meteors - does this rack incorporate meteor protection? I guess I just don't have the undying affection for this product like most everyone else here. I think it is better than the majority of the racks out there (in a number of ways).


    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    Um. You're not towing with it. There are no horizontal loads pulling the rack away from the vehicle. There's only downward force. To put it in perspective for you...I did a dumbass thing the other day. I took my 1up off (both trays at once instead of 1 at a time) when moving to get in and out of my SUV hatch easier. In my haste I put the rack back on with 2 trays at once and forgot to tighten the expander bolt. I drove around for 2 days with it like this (including 1 highway drive) before I ever needed to use it to put a bike on. When I went to put the bike on I noticed it was wobbling all over the place. I exclaimed "OH SH*T!" and counted my blessings it never flew out of my hitch, then hastily tightened that bolt. The point of this story is, even just sitting in there completely loose without bikes on it, it never moved. It didn't even slide a mm.

    You obviously could never put a trailer/boat/etc that you're towing on this type of interface, but it works just fine for a bike rack. It also eliminates any vertical and side to side movement.

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    I'm sure you can just modify it yourself and then use a hitch pin if you want . This thread is based on reviews not engineering . If you dont like the design / thought of no hitch pin then keep it moving man , it's pretty simple . People are giving you their experiences and it doesn't seem to be good enough for you ... This isn't the only rack that uses no hitch pin design either .. Just sayin ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    I'm sure you can just modify it yourself and then use a hitch pin if you want . This thread is based on reviews not engineering . If you dont like the design / thought of no hitch pin then keep it moving man , it's pretty simple . People are giving you their experiences and it doesn't seem to be good enough for you ... This isn't the only rack that uses no hitch pin design either .. Just sayin ...
    Don't take my input personally, it's just a consumer product! Sorry for providing constructive criticism in a review thread... and I was sharing my PERSONAL REVIEW. I do not prefer the 1up because of (a) the price and (b) lack of a hitch pin.

    In all other ways it is a great design/product.

    I'm sure there are other racks that don't use hitch pins and, don't worry, I would draw the same conclusion.

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    I'm pretty sure tho that there has been testing done to make sure it works ... Trust me , a company doesn't want to be liable for a "lemon" product . I say look past the non existing hitch pin , click that order button , and be happy you did hhaha .

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    The reasons to not use a hitch pin are simple. You don't have to worry about getting your rack lined up perfectly and dealing with getting a hitch pin through a little hole. You can even adjust the rack backwards a bit to clear a bumper (as long as you have minimum insertion). Also, the expander bolt removes shake/wobble of rack. The expander bolt is more than enough to keep the rack on. Find someone who has one of these racks and try pulling it out after it's been tightened. I know you won't be able to. There is never at any point enough force exerted on the rack in the horizontal direction away from the rack to pull the rack out when fully tightened. I don't care if you're knocking the rack for legitimate reasons, or if you prefer another design, but your posts show extreme ignorance and undue paranoia. Your post about loads makes no sense. There's side to side loads and vertical loads. There's never any significant force directly pulling the rack out and backwards away from the vehicle, unless you have it on the back of McLaren F1 accelerating at breakneck speed. Even then, I'm sure the expander bolt would hold fast.

    If your post about loads was true, when I forgot to tighten it, my rack would have come out when I was driving because it was just sitting in there, no hitch pin or tension.

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    Don't take my input personally, it's just a consumer product! Sorry for providing constructive criticism in a review thread... and I was sharing my PERSONAL REVIEW. I do not prefer the 1up because of (a) the price and (b) lack of a hitch pin.
    And how can you post a PERSONAL REVIEW, when you don't even own the product?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fish0281 View Post
    ...
    Also, I get it that nobody on this 37 page has had one fall out... but someone please tell me why you would *not* have a hitch pin incorporated into the design? It's cheap, simple, and fail safe.
    ... much like, the ball lock that is already on there.

    The reason not to put it on is because it is unnecessary. Also, drilling a hole through the shaft can weaken it, not that this is seeing those kinds of forces. It also makes it harder to install and remove. Pins are a PITA. You have to fumble around with them to get everything lined up. This thing with the ball lock. You just jam it in the receiver and snug it down. Set and forget.

    Also, I don't think you could add a pin to it if you wanted. The big locking bolt goes down the middle of the receiver shaft. Probably that's another reason why it isn't there.

    Really, take a real look at this thing and it will all make sense. It isn't going anywhere. It makes a brick shizhouse look like Ikea furniture. You can hang a kid's tire swing off this thing and put 5 kids on it.

    But, up to you. I just think you are dismissing it for no good reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    .... Find someone who has one of these racks and try pulling it out after it's been tightened.
    For that matter, try tightening it just a little tiny bit and see if you can take it out. I'll bet you can't. Sucker's wedged the F' in there pretty dang good.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post

    And how can you post a PERSONAL REVIEW, when you don't even own the product?
    Srsly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish0281 View Post
    As far as functionality goes, how is this rack better than the Kuat NV? Is the 1up hitch mount aluminum or steel?
    Modular design (can use only 1) and you can easily detach it, fold, and store in trunk.

    And, yes, it is great not to have the hitch pin. Rock solid attachment as it is - and for the paranoid one can strap it up to the hitch, if so inclined. I lock the bikes with a cable, pass it through the hitch proper. That is a fail safe as well, but I ride with it for a long time now, I am really not concerned about it even loosening up, much less falling out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swan3609 View Post
    This is my issue.. I want to put a hitch on my 01 Forester and I have actually found a 2" hitch for it but of course I am dealing with the unibody of the Forester as the weakest link.. And for the record, I am not going to use the 2" for anything major.. I have just owned trucks, and a Expedition for while and every accessory that I own is all 2 inch, I am not about to stick any of my bike racks into a 1 1/4 to 2" adaptor..

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    I emailed 1up and this is their reply.

    Hi, Just wondering if my 99 Honda Accord 2door coupe can carry 3 bikes. It has 1 1/4" hitch rated max 200lbs load. And also how far does the bike rack stick out from the tip of the hitch to the 3rd bike trays? Thank you.

    Yes, it will hold 1 Quik-Rack and 2 add-on. It will be about 36" sticking out.

    I wonder if the rack with 3 bikes fell off from my car because its too heavy if 1up will cover the damage. of course this is assuming that my hitch was installed properly from U-haul.

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    Why should they? It's your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad View Post
    Why should they? It's your car.
    +1.

    If the rack itself failed, then 1UP will probably reimburse. If your hitch failed, then it's the hitch manufacture, but most likely SOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad View Post
    Why should they? It's your car.
    Im not trying to argue. Just want to confirm. So no use of asking them if its ok to use with my set up and give them my info car and hitch tongue wt. So basically use at your own risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu Boy View Post
    Im not trying to argue. Just want to confirm. So no use of asking them if its ok to use with my set up and give them my info car and hitch tongue wt. So basically use at your own risk.
    I mean the numbers are all there...

    Your hitch is rated at 200 lbs. tongue weight. Three 1UP racks will be ~65 lbs, so if all three of your bikes are under 45 lbs each...you should be golden. Now it's up to your own risk whether you want to be that close to the max tongue weight. I would mainly worry about dips that would cause the whole rack to bounce...using a tie down strap would help a lot.

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    I think you are over thinking this. If the hitch is made for the specific car, then the hitch manufacturer is setting it up for a particular spec (Class 1, Class 2 etc...). Whatever that is, it will meet it when mounted properly on that particular car. It is then up to you, as the owner, to make sure you don't tow more than the hitch can take or put more tongue weight on the hitch that it's rated for.

    Either way, even on a Class 1 hitch, the vertical tension/compression spec is 2500 lbs. Here is the full SAE spec on trailer hitches:

    http://expediter.com/natm%20pdf%20fo...SAE%20J684.pdf

    Basically, you have nothing to worry about vis a vis your car. If they rate it as a class 1 hitch (lightest duty), it should be fine - the hitch, your car, and your rack.



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    Just had mine come in today, took it out of the box , WOW i must say , you guys werent kidding about the quality and design of this things. So simple , clean , effective, and just what i needed. I DEF made the right move and another great investment with this thing. I am VERY glad i listened to you guys and pulled the trigger on this rack..

    Ill try and get some pix up tomorrow afternoon .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu Boy View Post
    I... So basically use at your own risk.
    Isn't that what being an adult is all about? Being responsible and aware of whatever it is you're getting into?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    I think you are over thinking this. If the hitch is made for the specific car, then the hitch manufacturer is setting it up for a particular spec (Class 1, Class 2 etc...). Whatever that is, it will meet it when mounted properly on that particular car. It is then up to you, as the owner, to make sure you don't tow more than the hitch can take or put more tongue weight on the hitch that it's rated for.

    Either way, even on a Class 1 hitch, the vertical tension/compression spec is 2500 lbs. Here is the full SAE spec on trailer hitches:


    Basically, you have nothing to worry about vis a vis your car. If they rate it as a class 1 hitch (lightest duty), it should be fine - the hitch, your car, and your rack.



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    thanks JohnJ80. if i base the max tongue weight of my hitch and the total weight of my load i should be ok. i was just worried about the rack that will stick out about 36". anyways i guess i should not think too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad View Post
    Isn't that what being an adult is all about? Being responsible and aware of whatever it is you're getting into?
    Not really. Not everybody is a structural engineer, and potential liability of dropping a heavy loaded item in front of another car on freeway is quite severe.

    Better to ask some professional advice on occasion. Da intrawebz do not count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonylokrn View Post
    I mean the numbers are all there...

    Your hitch is rated at 200 lbs. tongue weight. Three 1UP racks will be ~65 lbs, so if all three of your bikes are under 45 lbs each...you should be golden. Now it's up to your own risk whether you want to be that close to the max tongue weight. I would mainly worry about dips that would cause the whole rack to bounce...using a tie down strap would help a lot.
    yeah i was worried about that too "dips" and "close to the max tongue weight". anyways i guess i should not think too much and just go for it and order the 3rd tray thanks for the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Not really. Not everybody is a structural engineer, and potential liability of dropping a heavy loaded item in front of another car on freeway is quite severe.

    Better to ask some professional advice on occasion. Da intrawebz do not count.
    Thanks Axe. your right not only the bikes or the racks will be damage but the danger of another car behind me if and when it happens. just want to make sure for the safety for eveybody on the road.

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    Ok so , this thing is really too easy to install lol, put on and off, and easily store Once you have it locked in , its NOT going anywhere end of story . Love everything about this rack and so glad i didnt go with another brand .

    Everything works very smoothly with this unit, and its well engineered . Here are a few pics i took to hold my bike, and my bike is extremely heavy and it wasnt budging . 40lbs +



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu Boy View Post
    yeah i was worried about that too "dips" and "close to the max tongue weight". anyways i guess i should not think too much and just go for it and order the 3rd tray thanks for the input.
    Here's 4 bikes on the rack that was sold to handle 4 then and 3 now. This is in a 2" receiver.


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    Picture looks good. I guess i was worried more the part where my hitch attached to my car that will become loose or bent than the rack itself. Rack is rock solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu Boy View Post
    Picture looks good. I guess i was worried more the part where my hitch attached to my car that will become loose or bent than the rack itself. Rack is rock solid.
    Valid concern Cebu Boy. Hitch manufacturers use the same hitch for lots of different cars but not all cars can handle the same tongue weight. The manufacturer states this on it's website - just because the hitch itself can handle XXXlbs of tongue weight, and it fits on your car, doesn't mean that your car was designed and rated to handle XXXlbs of tongue weight. It's incumbent upon you to determine that.

    My Forester itself is rated for 200lbs tongue weight while the hitch on it is a class III rated for 400lbs tongue weight. I would NEVER think about approaching 400lbs not because the hitch couldn't handle it but my car couldn't handle it. The hitch is WAY overkill but I wanted a 2" receiver and believe it or not it was cheaper than a class II 1 1/4".

    Features of my hitch pulled off the hitch manufacturer's website:
    - Round tube main body
    - Gross Trailer Weights (GTW) & Tongue Weights (TW) vary by application.
    - Never exceed vehicle weight rating.
    - Hitch Ball & Ball Mount sold separately.
    - Limited Lifetime Warranty to original purchaser.

    I wouldn't worry about anything less than a 4 bike rack fully loaded with DH bikes on a car chassis (SUV or Truck would be no problem), practicality everything below that will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campisi View Post
    Valid concern Cebu Boy. Hitch manufacturers use the same hitch for lots of different cars but not all cars can handle the same tongue weight. The manufacturer states this on it's website - just because the hitch itself can handle XXXlbs of tongue weight, and it fits on your car, doesn't mean that your car was designed and rated to handle XXXlbs of tongue weight. It's incumbent upon you to determine that.

    My Forester itself is rated for 200lbs tongue weight while the hitch on it is a class III rated for 400lbs tongue weight. I would NEVER think about approaching 400lbs not because the hitch couldn't handle it but my car couldn't handle it. The hitch is WAY overkill but I wanted a 2" receiver and believe it or not it was cheaper than a class II 1 1/4".

    Features of my hitch pulled off the hitch manufacturer's website:
    - Round tube main body
    - Gross Trailer Weights (GTW) & Tongue Weights (TW) vary by application.
    - Never exceed vehicle weight rating.
    - Hitch Ball & Ball Mount sold separately.
    - Limited Lifetime Warranty to original purchaser.

    I wouldn't worry about anything less than a 4 bike rack fully loaded with DH bikes on a car chassis (SUV or Truck would be no problem), practicality everything below that will be fine.
    What year forester do you have? And what hitch do you have? I have a 01 and found a 2 inch hitch that I want to put on. I just haven't seen any of the older foresters with 2 inchers on them.

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    My Forester is an '11. I think I paid less than the current price for it:

    Amazon.com: Curt Manufacturing 13147 Class III Receiver: Automotive

    ETA: According to Curt, the one above won't fit your '01 Forester. They only have Class II hitches for the '01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Here's 4 bikes on the rack that was sold to handle 4 then and 3 now. This is in a 2" receiver.
    And judging by my add on tray - they have also beefed up the add on. I would guess for stiffness, not so much for ultimate strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campisi View Post
    My Forester is an '11. I think I paid less than the current price for it:

    Amazon.com: Curt Manufacturing 13147 Class III Receiver: Automotive

    ETA: According to Curt, the one above won't fit your '01 Forester. They only have Class II hitches for the '01.
    I know that it won't. A while back I had found one bolt on hitch for my car that was a 2" receiver but was still rated class II. I don't care about the towing capacity or the class of the hitch. The most I will ever use it for is 2 bikes on a rack as I already have a roof rack on my car. I am going for the low cost shuttle and road trip car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish0281 View Post

    Also, it's disconcerting that there isn't a hitch pin - there's a reason everything on your car is bolted together and even then stuff comes undone. That eliminates 1up as an option for me.
    I too was of that logic last season when I was looking at racks (always thinking the worst lol). But I am glad I bought the 1up 2 bike combo last year. I just couldn't stomach paying a little less or even the same in some instances for the Thule/Yakima/Kuat steel garbage offerings at the time. Mine still looks new, operates flawlessly, and never had a problem with mine. And always get numerous comments/questions at the trail head parking lot about it.

    But to make me sleep better at night, I have a Kryptonite mini U-lock going thru the rack and the hitch metal loop, so even if the locking bolt ever fails, the rack isn't going to slide out anywhere, there's basically less than an inch of leeway with this, and still safely inserted in my hitch.

    And disregard the red strap, no longer in use.

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    Color?

    I'm thinking about ordering one of these racks soon, single quick rack, but can't decide between silver or black. I know the black is $50 more and I do like the looks of it, but how does the color hold up over time? It would seem like the various moving parts on the rack might cause the finish to wear off. The rack won't be sitting out in weather much as I'll it off after each ride. For what it's worth this is for a white Toyota Tacoma with factory tow hitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MondoRock View Post
    I'm thinking about ordering one of these racks soon, single quick rack, but can't decide between silver or black. I know the black is $50 more and I do like the looks of it, but how does the color hold up over time? It would seem like the various moving parts on the rack might cause the finish to wear off. The rack won't be sitting out in weather much as I'll it off after each ride. For what it's worth this is for a white Toyota Tacoma with factory tow hitch.

    .. but silver hides the scratches and what will be the tire wear spots. I'm not sure how deep the anodizing goes (varies by mfgr) but it's usually only a couple microns thick.

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    Hey guys, after browsing this thread, I'm pretty much convinced that I'll be getting this rack. My only concern is, how about legibility/visibility of the license plate while on the tray up (no bikes on) position? I drive a Honda Element and found some pics online that with the 2 bike rack (the one that I want) it looks like it blocks the view. I understand that this probably will be the same with any rack/Honda Element scenario. So, is not so much about the rack itself, but since I'm pretty sure I'll get this one, I'll just ask here. Has anybody with obstructed view of the plate had any "encounters" with law enforcement. BTW, I'm in Texas, did some research, but couldn't find anything other than messing with the license plate itself. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpeque View Post
    Hey guys, after browsing this thread, I'm pretty much convinced that I'll be getting this rack. My only concern is, how about legibility/visibility of the license plate while on the tray up (no bikes on) position? I drive a Honda Element and found some pics online that with the 2 bike rack (the one that I want) it looks like it blocks the view. I understand that this probably will be the same with any rack/Honda Element scenario. So, is not so much about the rack itself, but since I'm pretty sure I'll get this one, I'll just ask here. Has anybody with obstructed view of the plate had any "encounters" with law enforcement. BTW, I'm in Texas, did some research, but couldn't find anything other than messing with the license plate itself. Thanks!
    Nope.

    Here people even often don't put on a front plate on their car because of looks and there aren't any problems.

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    I've tried 2 or 3 hitch racks on my Honda Element and thus far I haven't been able to find one that is low enough to clear my tailgate when it's down (and the rack has no bikes on it).

    Anyone running one of these on a Honda Element and can confirm?

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    Hey Acadian,

    While doing my research I found two. I can't link yet, but here they are.

    If you Google: Honda element 1up usa - you'll find one on the Element owners club.

    If you Google: Kuat NV - you'll see the review from Cracks and Racks, were they used a Honda Element for their test.

    Hope it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    .. but silver hides the scratches and what will be the tire wear spots. I'm not sure how deep the anodizing goes (varies by mfgr) but it's usually only a couple microns thick.
    Thanks for your input! Decided to place an order for Silver. Maybe I'll get lucky and have it by the weekend.

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    BOOOOYA!!!!! Such an awesome rack

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    Just wanted to say how pleased I am with how quick I received my rack. I placed an order online Monday evening and it was shipped the next day along with tracking info by email, and I received the shipment today (Friday). Awesome. About to open the box and check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian View Post
    I've tried 2 or 3 hitch racks on my Honda Element and thus far I haven't been able to find one that is low enough to clear my tailgate when it's down (and the rack has no bikes on it).

    Anyone running one of these on a Honda Element and can confirm?
    It does work just fine. You do have to tilt the rack down but it clears with no problem that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian View Post
    I've tried 2 or 3 hitch racks on my Honda Element and thus far I haven't been able to find one that is low enough to clear my tailgate when it's down (and the rack has no bikes on it).

    Anyone running one of these on a Honda Element and can confirm?
    If you find your way up to Oakland, you're welcome to try mine out.

    Hey, on second thought. IIRC you can just buy one, and for whatever weird reason you don't like it, I think they'll pay for shipping back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    If you find your way up to Oakland, you're welcome to try mine out.

    Hey, on second thought. IIRC you can just buy one, and for whatever weird reason you don't like it, I think they'll pay for shipping back.
    I just saw that Mike Solis has one on his Element - will ask him once he's back from Boggs

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    Do you worry about flats?

    I've had my 1up USA quik-rack double for about a year now, and love it. I'm about to order 2 more single add-ons, now that the kids are using full size bikes.
    Do any of you worry about losing tire pressure when the bike is in the rack? I know, it seems unlikely, but the problem is that the consequences are quite dire. Maybe a slow leak after a ride, or a blow out... I think about it a bit more now, since I run tubeless, and just had a Rocket Ron blow off (ripped bead) while coasting on the road. If that ever happened while transporting in the rack, I'm afraid my bike would be all over the road.
    Anyone else worry about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgrieve View Post
    I've had my 1up USA quik-rack double for about a year now, and love it. I'm about to order 2 more single add-ons, now that the kids are using full size bikes.
    Do any of you worry about losing tire pressure when the bike is in the rack? I know, it seems unlikely, but the problem is that the consequences are quite dire. Maybe a slow leak after a ride, or a blow out... I think about it a bit more now, since I run tubeless, and just had a Rocket Ron blow off (ripped bead) while coasting on the road. If that ever happened while transporting in the rack, I'm afraid my bike would be all over the road.
    Anyone else worry about that?
    It happened once to me and the bike was fine. I wouldn't worry about it.

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    After a recent ride one of the red handles on my 1up rack was so loose it was almost falling off. Both of the two bolts holding it on were extremely loose, and had I driven a few more miles it probably would have fallen off completely. I added some blue Loctite and hopefully that will hold, but when I get a chance I need to check all the bolts on it. Frustratingly, they seem to be standard (not metric), so I can't effectively use my milti-tool to work on it. I don't think I even own a set of non-metric allen wrenches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m85476585 View Post
    ...Frustratingly, they seem to be standard (not metric), so I can't effectively use my milti-tool to work on it. I don't think I even own a set of non-metric allen wrenches.
    I had the same frustration! This is one of my few gripes because I've also had some nuts/bolts loosen up over time and I'm in the habit of checking them every so often. This usually means a run to Harbor Freight for a set of cheapo standard allens. Lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgrieve View Post
    I've had my 1up USA quik-rack double for about a year now, and love it. I'm about to order 2 more single add-ons, now that the kids are using full size bikes.
    Do any of you worry about losing tire pressure when the bike is in the rack? I know, it seems unlikely, but the problem is that the consequences are quite dire. Maybe a slow leak after a ride, or a blow out... I think about it a bit more now, since I run tubeless, and just had a Rocket Ron blow off (ripped bead) while coasting on the road. If that ever happened while transporting in the rack, I'm afraid my bike would be all over the road.
    Anyone else worry about that?
    Put the bike on the rack, tighten it down, and then deflate the tire (or tires) and see what happens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgrieve View Post
    I've had my 1up USA quik-rack double for about a year now, and love it. I'm about to order 2 more single add-ons, now that the kids are using full size bikes.
    Do any of you worry about losing tire pressure when the bike is in the rack? I know, it seems unlikely, but the problem is that the consequences are quite dire. Maybe a slow leak after a ride, or a blow out... I think about it a bit more now, since I run tubeless, and just had a Rocket Ron blow off (ripped bead) while coasting on the road. If that ever happened while transporting in the rack, I'm afraid my bike would be all over the road.
    Anyone else worry about that?
    I have the same concern, running tubeless also, I did see a picture somewhere, the guy actually put some hitch pins in the adjustable mount holes on the rack arms between the spokes...if the tires were to deflate, at least the bike would stay on the rack, not a bad idea, maybe just some bolts with nylon locking nuts or some type of strap...maybe someone has had a better idea...please share. Thanks

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    I wrap one of these around the back tire and the arm holding it down - kind of a "remove before flight" flag. It reminds me to tighten down the arms, shows me I did tighten down the arms if I get paranoid while driving, and if a tire deflates or bolt works loose it will keep the bike secure.

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    You guys are WAY over thinking this too much.. If your tires are going to be that flat , i am pretty positive you will notice it BEFORE it goes on the rack .

    First of all you should always check your bike before and after every ride anyways.

    Also, its not very hard to check the rack for any loose bolts or nuts , its pretty simple .

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    I'm having a hard time seeing the over-thinking here.

    While you are checking over your bike, ensuring there are no slow leaks in the tires (how do you do that, bring a tub of water with you, only ride near creeks, maybe only go on short trips?), checking all the bolts on the rack, and making sure you don't make a mistake tightening down your bike, it takes me 1 second to put the twisty on and I'm ready to go.

    Over-thinking or a time saving convenience - I'm going with the latter

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    I can't speak for aedubber, but to me it's the profound paranoia the seems to pervade this thread that I would characterize as over-thinking. People are worrying too much. Besides, it isn't like that twist tie is actually going to hold anything on in a moment of catastrophic failure. But, if it helps someone feel better, then it's a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad View Post
    I can't speak for aedubber, but to me it's the profound paranoia the seems to pervade this thread that I would characterize as over-thinking. People are worrying too much. Besides, it isn't like that twist tie is actually going to hold anything on in a moment of catastrophic failure. But, if it helps someone feel better, then it's a good thing.
    Don't underestimate the twist ties.

    Or, better yet, zip ties. That stuff is heavy duty.

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    Ride where you want man ... I ride down ski resorts . Maybe you should consider something like this , never got to worry about a single thing !


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    Even if the tires go flat, the bike may be lose in the rack, but it's not going to come out.

    I did hit a major buckle in the pavement once at 80mph on a 2000 mile road trip with 4 bikes on the back (car probably was a few inches airborne) and a full load in the car. One wheel on the outermost bike did just out of the track but it could not get out of the arms. What I do now, just because I"m paranoid, is put a toe clip strap through one of the wheels and around the tray. There is now no way that the outermost bike can come out under almost any conditions and it's going to be damn near impossible for any of the inboard bikes to go anywhere.

    Needless to say, after hitting that buckle at high speed, which had to be way, way out of spec for the rack, and having no problems; I can't imagine that this is anything worth worrying about. Especially for short trips on familiar roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Even if the tires go flat, the bike may be lose in the rack, but it's not going to come out.

    I did hit a major buckle in the pavement once at 80mph on a 2000 mile road trip with 4 bikes on the back (car probably was a few inches airborne) and a full load in the car. One wheel on the outermost bike did just out of the track but it could not get out of the arms. What I do now, just because I"m paranoid, is put a toe clip strap through one of the wheels and around the tray. There is now no way that the outermost bike can come out under almost any conditions and it's going to be damn near impossible for any of the inboard bikes to go anywhere.

    Needless to say, after hitting that buckle at high speed, which had to be way, way out of spec for the rack, and having no problems; I can't imagine that this is anything worth worrying about. Especially for short trips on familiar roads.

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    Holy carp! What kind of vehicle do you have that 4-bike rack hitched to? I'm surprised the hitch itself didn't bend or the car's unibody where the hitch mounts didn't suffer some serious bendage (if it was a car - if a truck no problem). I've heard of class II hitches getting bent from 4-bike racks bouncing around on Forest Service roads.

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    My other rack is a 4 bike Hollywood rack and after a 2000 mile, all on highway, road trip with 4 bikes I noticed the metal that goes into the hitch (not sure if there is a proper term for it) was deformed to the point that the rack leans slightly back. It's 2" steel square tubing with 1/4" thick walls, and it is visibly deformed now (looks like someone took the square cross section and squeezed it to a slight rectangle shape at the end). I was in the vehicle the whole time and there were some moderate bumps (all on highway), but nothing that made the vehicle airborne (though I have been airborne in it, and the traction control system doesn't like that). The hitch is fine, of course, because it's a truck, and the rack is still 100% useable.

    On my car (which has the 1up rack), the bolt on hitch is mainly supported by the tow hook, which should be strong enough to take at least the weight of the car. There are also two points where it bolts to the frame, but I haven't looked at how sturdy the frame looks there. If I do hit a bump, because of the leverage of the rack off the back most of the weight goes on the tow hook, and the force on the frame from the rack is almost all upward force. I think I'd be more worried about bending the hitch than the frame.
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    To be sure - I've never heard of the frame bending, just the hitch. But, when I installed the hitch on my Forester I noticed that the "frame" metal that it bolts to is little more than some thin sheetmetal. Matter of fact, to install it you had to 'oblong' out two holes in the frame to get the hardware in. I started to do it with a round file until I realized how skimpy that metal was. I stopped and removed the bumper and put the h/w in from the back of the frame rails so I wouldn't have to round out those holes. Much, much less than the frame of my last vehicle (99 Dodge Ram 4X4 truck). The max tongue weight spec'd by Subaru is 200lbs but that is for a trailer and I bet 200lbs on a trailer with an axle acts MUCH different than the weight of a 4 bike rack with 4 DH bikes on it levered out a few feet from the hitch (especially when you hit big bumps)! Statics and all. I guess I'm kind of glad I only carry one bike most of the time and two rarely. My 1up can be configured for 1 bike so I'm not carrying the extra weight of an unused bike position. At any rate, I ain't gonna worry too much more about it.

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    I think I'm going to bite the bullet and purchase one of these...my wife might leave me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall256 View Post
    To the current 1up rack owners: how well do larger (2.3-2.5) tires fit?

    Thanks!
    Most downhill bikes have 2.5 tires on them ... And there was a good amount of downhill bikes if you bothered to look at a few pages.

    To answer your question they fit just fine, no problems at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall256 View Post
    To the current 1up rack owners: how well do larger (2.3-2.5) tires fit?
    Schwalbe Big Betty and Continental Trail King 2.4s fit fine. Those are some of the largest volume ones, even compared to DH tires, that you can find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campisi View Post
    Holy carp! What kind of vehicle do you have that 4-bike rack hitched to? I'm surprised the hitch itself didn't bend or the car's unibody where the hitch mounts didn't suffer some serious bendage (if it was a car - if a truck no problem). I've heard of class II hitches getting bent from 4-bike racks bouncing around on Forest Service roads.
    It was a Volvo SUV with a 2" receiver. I hit a buckle in the pavement near a construction zone way on the outskirts of Denver on a hot day. Being unfamiliar with the area, I missed the speed limit sign where it went down to 55 from 75. Really felt like we got launched - junk flying all over the car etc... Seat belts all locked.

    Everything was fine. Needless to say, I have a lot of confidence in my rack. Good stuff and highly recommended. It WILL hold your bike through some way out of spec stuff.

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    Just received my rack today. Crikey this thing is aluminum sculpture, beautiful. Looking forward to installing it tomorrow, thanks all for sharing their reviews.

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    Well i'm happy with mine pricy yes but also quality in my mind

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    1up rack and extension ordered! The only real complaints I see, are the lack of locks, and wobble. I'm a little nervous about "wobble", but I'm taking my chances!

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    What "wobble"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    What "wobble"?

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    A few (very few) reviews have stated the bikes "wobble" when installed. I'm not sure how accurate that is, I tend to take online reviews with a grain of salt. The positives FAR exceed the bad, that's for sure. There's a video on youtube that also shows the bike wobble too.

    Around the 2:18 mark... I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velosprocket View Post
    A few (very few) reviews have stated the bikes "wobble" when installed. I'm not sure how accurate that is, I tend to take online reviews with a grain of salt. The positives FAR exceed the bad, that's for sure. There's a video on youtube that also shows the bike wobble too.

    Around the 2:18 mark... I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.

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    That's not wobble. It's called not tightening the arms down enough. Silly noobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    That's not wobble. It's called not tightening the arms down enough. Silly noobs.
    +1 my 41LB bike sits nice and tight.. As you can see the guy in the youtube video just pushed the arms against the tires with finger weight, so imagine how nice and tight it is when your actually use your hand and close the arms up

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    That's not wobble. It's called not tightening the arms down enough. Silly noobs.
    And on top of that, anytime you cantilever anything away from the car or up in the air, you get some movement when you lever a mass on the end of a lever arm.

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    No probs w/ mine. Absolutely love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    That's not wobble. It's called not tightening the arms down enough. Silly noobs.
    I'm such a noob, I don't even have the rack yet, HA! Hopefully it will arrive by Friday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velosprocket View Post
    1up rack and extension ordered! The only real complaints I see, are the lack of locks, and wobble. I'm a little nervous about "wobble", but I'm taking my chances!
    Wobble? One of things I love about the rack, is that there is zero wobble. Did you try tightening the hell out the allen bolt? I had to wobble the rack while I tightened the bolt to get rid of the wobble, now it's solid.

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    There is a very slight wobble if you have to cross something like the railroad tracks near me on a slight angle, but i can not imagine anything that wide attached to a 1.25" piece of anything that in that situation that would not wobble a bit!
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    4" tires.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Randall256 View Post
    To the current 1up rack owners: how well do larger (2.3-2.5) tires fit?

    Thanks!
    'nuff said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by t0pcat View Post
    There is a very slight wobble if you have to cross something like the railroad tracks near me on a slight angle, but i can not imagine anything that wide attached to a 1.25" piece of anything that in that situation that would not wobble a bit!
    I wouldn't call it a wobble. More like flex... like the springy-ness in the metal... which the 1Up has way less than any other rack on the market. There is no 'tap dance' kinda slop in there. It snugs up in the receiver with zero room to move.

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    Also maybe this might help answer your wobble question too .. The rack is tight, it doesnt move once you tighten it up.. The wobble you might see or be talking about is cuz the bikes have forks that rotate.. So there will be some type of movement ...

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