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    i would suggest you test drive them all and see for yourself. You don't like the gas mileage of the WRX? It's the same Ej25 motor as the Forester XT and gas mileage is better and about the same as the base non turbo Forester. Newer WRX's are pretty refined as well. Forester will give you a little more room while the WRX will provide a sportier feel. Legacy is the most refined in my opinion but and pretty sporty. Don't know much about the Outback.

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    Hate to say this, but I too now drive a Subaru. Nothing wrong with the car (far from it). It's just so... common. Parking at trail heads, there are about 50% Subies there it seems.

    I like the car (09 Outback, non-turbo). It's fast enough -- not like my chipped 1.8T that I had before , but not too bad. The only thing I don't like is the suspension. Mostly the rear shocks need more rebound. I wish Fox made shocks for them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by xls
    Hate to say this, but I too now drive a Subaru. Nothing wrong with the car (far from it). It's just so... common. Parking at trail heads, there are about 50% Subies there it seems.

    I like the car (09 Outback, non-turbo). It's fast enough -- not like my chipped 1.8T that I had before , but not too bad. The only thing I don't like is the suspension. Mostly the rear shocks need more rebound. I wish Fox made shocks for them....
    There's a reason a lot of trailheads and other more remote spots have Subarus there. I'd like to see a Honda get to remote locations. It's not happening unless you've got an AWD Honda.

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    Here is my 2005 STI(no longer a daily driver) and my 2009 Nomad.
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    You guys know that if you are an IMBA member you can buy a brand new Subaru for under dealer cost right?

    USA: http://www.imba.com/tcc/subaru.html

    Canada (new): http://www.imba.com/canada/subaru.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheers!
    You guys know that if you are an IMBA member you can buy a brand new Subaru for under dealer cost right?

    USA: http://www.imba.com/tcc/subaru.html

    Canada (new): http://www.imba.com/canada/subaru.html
    Various folks have said on line the discount you get is really not much more than what you can get on your own, however, that may not be true everywhere and I think using the program some how gets IMBA a donation of some sort from Subi plus shows the program is being used and appreciated.

    I myself am toying on getting a new forester (the new bright red, 5 speed, prem pack) I would not be toying if they so offered the XT (turbo) with a manual but all they offer it with in the US is that horrid auto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymo853
    folks have said
    on line the discount you get is really not much more than what you can get on your own, however, that may not be true everywhere and I think using the program some how gets IMBA a donation of some sort from Subi plus shows the program is being used and appreciated.

    I myself am toying on gettiing a new forester (the new bright red, 5 speed, prem pack) I would not be toying if they so offered the XT (turbo) with a manual but all they offer it with in the US is that horrid auto.
    I agree. An XT with an auto is just pointless. Hell, many of the FXT buyers came from the WRX in the first place. I'm looking for an FXT but only for the older 08 and earlier ones. I don't like the 09 forester looks at all.

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    Here's my new '09 --> Can't afford a roof rack right now so for the time being it will go in the back of the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    There's a reason a lot of trailheads and other more remote spots have Subarus there. I'd like to see a Honda get to remote locations. It's not happening unless you've got an AWD Honda.
    I expected a response like that. The trailheads I'm talking about are all just as easily accessible with my VW Golf, no AWD needed (and there might have been a Honda or two also). The reason for the high number of Subies in my opinion is a combination of the cars working well for the task (they're very practical at a good price) and great targeted marketing on behalf of SOA (image / perception of the car). There's absolutely nothing wrong with either. I'm totally happy with my Outback right now.

    FWIW, if I had gotten a Honda Accord I would also think it's "too common" in the mall parking lot or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xls
    I expected a response like that. The trailheads I'm talking about are all just as easily accessible with my VW Golf, no AWD needed (and there might have been a Honda or two also). The reason for the high number of Subies in my opinion is a combination of the cars working well for the task (they're very practical at a good price) and great targeted marketing on behalf of SOA (image / perception of the car). There's absolutely nothing wrong with either. I'm totally happy with my Outback right now.

    FWIW, if I had gotten a Honda Accord I would also think it's "too common" in the mall parking lot or something.
    And I expected this response Just seeing if you were on the ball

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    May not be applicable to many/most but my Subaru takes me places the Accord ground out and spun out. We usually take an Outback or forester to the trails that most sedans lack s bit of clearance for. I have hit a couple where even the Subie ground out and an FJ or raised Subie would be nice. Some sedans do have decent clearance- just have to watch the steep and loose uphills where AWD helps a lot. I stick it in 1st or 2nd gear and crawl. When I start grinding the Subie bottom much, I'll upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    And I expected this response Just seeing if you were on the ball
    lol! Well, a few days late (as so often...). I'm preparing for a 24h race this w/e. Won't be taking my Subie there, but my friend's. The hitch for the bike rack is in my living room. I haven't had time to mount it yet.

    All that said, I hope I will be able to take advantage of the AWD and the ground clearance to get to some more remote trailheads one of these days. It probably won't be where I live though (bay area).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocAltie
    I would stay away from the older Forester's. I drove a 2009 Forester before I bought an Impreza and I am not a fan of how they drive.

    Outback has a good amount of space and drives real nice. Gal I work with has one and loves it.
    LOL. what credible reason do you have to suggest that anyone stays away from the older Foresters? That plus the 05-09 Outbacks have less interior room, and only slightly more overall cargo volume (with seats folded down) than the Forester.

    The '09 Foresters are fantastic compared to the older models, and easily tied for numero uno compact SUV. I know both the older ones (which were great) and the '09's inside and out, and if you're bringing the Impreza into the mix I can name a few things upsides the 02-07 models have over the 08+ Imprezas.

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    here's my 07 Forester 2.5x...I love this car



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    Wow this thread is still alive? Nice!

    I sold my Turbo Legacy, after buying this:





    Its easier to put the bike inside the Brat instead of lifting it onto the top of the Legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olsen726
    my subie
    Was that picture taken at a West Coast Subaru Show by chance?

    www.WestCoastSubaruShow.com if anyone here was wondering what it was.
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    That Brat is beautiful! Man, California is such the sanctuary for rust-prone automobiles, how I envy you haha

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    Hello all!
    What an awesome thread... Subies UNITE!


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    It's going to be getting the Yakima "Hold up" slapped on the back very soon... I should get my hitch today (and my new bike)! W-Hoooooooo!


    Obviously NOT a suby - but here's my other baby... I don't think I'll be having any problems with clearance on the trails with this!

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    well i've been a subaru for the last 7 years (not the same one but i have been in a subaru)

    here is where I started (97 Impreza Outback Sport)


    Then I added this (03 WRX)


    Traded both of those in on this (07 Forester 2.5x)


    my wifes 97 Legacy GT wagon died so I gave her the forester and bought this (07 Imp 2.5i)


    The 2.5i was hands down my favorite car to date but just did not do what we needed it to do at the time so we traded it in on an 04 Silverado (and I hate the thing) that my wife drives now and I am back in the Forester

    infact i dislike it so much i don't even have a picture of it lol.

    My wife started on in 02 Outback wagon that is her moms

    Moved to a 95 Impreza L (2wd edition)

    got rid of that due to no room as it was also a 2 door and got a 97 Legacy GT wagon, got in a wreck and was never really 100% after that and died which brings us back to the 2007 Impreza 2.5i that i bought.

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    Nice, FDC. I've had the same one as your first for 5 years and it's never let me down. Looking forward to my next someday, an Impreza WRX wagon with a FUNCTIONING HOOD SCOOP! Woo hoo
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    I've got a WRX wagon now, but I'll soon need something with more cargo space to haul may daily crap around. I'm thinking Outback or Forester, although I haven't decided if I'll go with an XT since I've been hooked on the turbo for years now

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    Nice collection FDC.

    I have been driving a Subaru since i have had my license. My first car was a 1978 Subaru Wagon. Since then I have owned 16 Subaru's. No WRX's or Impreza's... mostly older Subaru's from the 80's, and a few Legacy's (old '92 and '93 models).

    Next on my list is DEFINATLY a Forester XT. I love how they look, and nothing beats a 2.5 Turbo!
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    My son in his '00 Impreza RS. I'm looking for one.

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    I sell Subarus, and I currently am leasing an '09 Legacy SE 5-speed (because of a dirt cheap lease last summer as my SVT Focus was dying), and as much as I like the '09 Foresters and '09 WRX's, I am strongly considering trying to find a nice 2.2L Impreza or Legacy wagon.

    I always liked the body style of the late 90's Legacy wagon, and that era Impreza is nice too, but mainly, I've noticed that of the mechanics at our dealership who drive Subarus, they all drive the older 2.2L cars. I asked them about it and they said hands down from a reliability standpoint that's the way to go. I guess they get sick of fixing blown head gaskets from the early 2000's models haha

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    Yeah the non-interference SOHC EJ22's from 1990 to 1994 are bulletproof. It is the most commonly used engine when swapping from the EA81 or the EA82... and its also a common engine found in aircraft, hovercrafts, Vanagan conversions etc...
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    Picked 'er up this morning.

    2000 RS 2.5 5-speed.

    On the ride home I passed an Outback with a muddy Gary Fisher on the roof.


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    ^mmmm, 4 door 2.5RS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX
    I sell Subarus, and I currently am leasing an '09 Legacy SE 5-speed (because of a dirt cheap lease last summer as my SVT Focus was dying), and as much as I like the '09 Foresters and '09 WRX's, I am strongly considering trying to find a nice 2.2L Impreza or Legacy wagon.

    I always liked the body style of the late 90's Legacy wagon, and that era Impreza is nice too, but mainly, I've noticed that of the mechanics at our dealership who drive Subarus, they all drive the older 2.2L cars. I asked them about it and they said hands down from a reliability standpoint that's the way to go. I guess they get sick of fixing blown head gaskets from the early 2000's models haha
    What is the deal with those Subaru headgaskets and have they solved that engineering flaw yet? My sister has a Legacy GT wagon and it blew one too a few years ago. Not cheap! She's probably gonna ditch that thing cuz now it's having problems again.

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    Cannondale Lefty Jig for Subaru Trunk Transport

    Sorry if I'm in the wrong thread, but I would appreciate if someone has posted pictures of a fork mount for the 60 seat down to Subaru Outback WRX transport their Lefty? Looking for some ideas.

    Thanks

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    Dad has a 2005 Baja that will probably be mine soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuke
    What is the deal with those Subaru headgaskets and have they solved that engineering flaw yet? My sister has a Legacy GT wagon and it blew one too a few years ago. Not cheap! She's probably gonna ditch that thing cuz now it's having problems again.

    This should explain everything...

    http:/http://www.rs25.com/forums/f19...explained.html
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    Just sat in a 2010 Outback. Very posh car, even more cargo space, and handsome styling. The salesman said you can probably fit a mtn bike in back without taking the wheels off, so now I might have an alternative to a regular SUV for my next car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuke
    Just sat in a 2010 Outback. Very posh car, even more cargo space, and handsome styling. The salesman said you can probably fit a mtn bike in back without taking the wheels off, so now I might have an alternative to a regular SUV for my next car...
    It's another of the love/hate designs by Subaru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuke
    Just sat in a 2010 Outback. Very posh car, even more cargo space, and handsome styling. The salesman said you can probably fit a mtn bike in back without taking the wheels off, so now I might have an alternative to a regular SUV for my next car...

    I did a quick dimension comparison to our aging 1998 4Runner to the 2010 Outback and they are almost the same size with some minor differences. One odd dimension has the new Outback being longer overall then our 1998 4Runner. Why make something that long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbcracken
    I did a quick dimension comparison to our aging 1998 4Runner to the 2010 Outback and they are almost the same size with some minor differences. One odd dimension has the new Outback being longer overall then our 1998 4Runner. Why make something that long?

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    Well, they make it that long to have ample cargo room with adequate legroom.

    I've driven/ridden in 4 runners extensively, and there is WAY less room in them for the rear occupants. The cargo area may be similer, the front of the 4-runner may be slightly roomier than a compact car, but not by much, but the rear seats are a joke. I'm not that big (5'11") and riding in the back of a '98 4 runner is simply torture. Riding in the back of a Legacy model is pretty easy, much better legroom. It's even interesting that my Impreza was built on a Legacy chassi, although what they've done in the past is redesign/update the Legacy and then build the Impreza on the old legacy chassi, but they wouldn't make the Impreza as long or big, so you ended up with those micro-rear seats again. I don't care about people riding in the back of my Impreza that much, but if it was more than just myself most of the time it would be an issue. Part of the problem is that the nose is so damn long, to make room for the engine (in front of the axle) transmission, intercooler, etc. You'd think they could shorten the nose some, but it sticks out pretty far, and I end up sitting in about the "middle" of the car as the driver. The legacy has good room for 4 occupants. I can't say the same about my Impreza or a 4-runner. The new Impreza is supposed to be better for the rear occupant legroom, but peering inside (haven't tried it) it doesn't seem like it's by much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    It's another of the love/hate designs by Subaru.
    HATE

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    Quote Originally Posted by utarch00
    HATE
    I hated the bugeye when it came out, now I drive one. I hated the 06 when it came out, and now I want one. I hated the 08 WRX when it came out, but I like them now. I still don't like the 08 impreza sedan though, it looks like a Saturn to me.

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    Hope I love my Outback!!

    I have a 03 Subaru Outback Sport and that thing kicks butt. I drive that puppy all the time to trails and the Mt's. These cars can even do some light off-roading. All so growing up in Tahoe and many places throughout the Sierra Subaru's are one of the best multi-purpose jammer vehicles out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13
    Thanks for the link, interesting read!

    Sounds like the newer Subies aren't affected (or aren't old enough yet to exhibit the problems...). If I buy one, it'll definitely be a late model, as the newer styling is growing on me...

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    Here is my 05 Saabaru. I love it... just having a hard time getting it back to CA emissions standards.





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    nice to see all the mtbr subies!

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    you guys and your front mounts
    if only I had 5k to blow on a nice 18g ext wastegate front mount setup haha

    oh well, my mystery suspension gremlins are keeping me company at the moment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    you guys and your front mounts
    if only I had 5k to blow on a nice 18g ext wastegate front mount setup haha

    oh well, my mystery suspension gremlins are keeping me company at the moment
    FMIC's are only beneficial when you've got a large turbo moving a LOT of air. The STi TMIC is efficient past 300awhp, and all you're doing with a FMIC and standard-sized turbo is increasing lag and requiring a retune to compensate for the larger volume of space (piping) that must be filled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    FMIC's are only beneficial when you've got a large turbo moving a LOT of air. The STi TMIC is efficient past 300awhp, and all you're doing with a FMIC and standard-sized turbo is increasing lag and requiring a retune to compensate for the larger volume of space (piping) that must be filled.
    td06 18G is pretty far from a td04
    of course I'm not going to bolt a fmic with the stock turbo.. that would just be silly
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    Is it just me or does it appear Subaru doesn't really have a wagon in 2010? I know the WRX and legacy wagons went away a while back (a mistake in my eyes) but the new outback looks like a crossover now..

    Whats going on with Subaru? Their cars are starting to look...fat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    td06 18G is pretty far from a td04
    of course I'm not going to bolt a fmic with the stock turbo.. that would just be silly
    Woops, I missed where you said an 18g which would work fine with a fmic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    FMIC's are only beneficial when you've got a large turbo moving a LOT of air. The STi TMIC is efficient past 300awhp, and all you're doing with a FMIC and standard-sized turbo is increasing lag and requiring a retune to compensate for the larger volume of space (piping) that must be filled.
    Yup, or conversely you can run a bigger turbo without having to go to a FMIC, only if you really step up the size do you need to get that far bigger intercooler.
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    My husband has had a 96 Impreza for about 5 or 6 years, so I steal it from him from time to time (especially in winter!!) I have a Thule bike/snowboard rack on the top, and I drive it nice, but I know he has taken it places where lifted 4x4s were getting stuck. (Yes, yes, they were clueless drivers who had no concept of driving technique or airing down their tires, but still).

    We may upgrade to a newer WRX, but this one has treated us so well and with 218xxx miles on it, still running sweet, 31mpg that there's just no reason to right now. Just did a timing belt today, F&R struts earlier in the year, but we haven't had to do ANY maintenance other than preventative (knocking on wood).

    I'd definitely buy another one in a heartbeat. Great cars.

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    I do!! And what better way to get my first post in here at MTBR than in a Subie related thread!


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    06 wrx wagon here and I too frequent NASIOC. And almost never MTBR =T

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonbsays
    06 wrx wagon here and I too frequent NASIOC. And almost never MTBR =T

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    IS there a way to have the bike carrier on roof rails and still have use of the rear gate? I don't mind shortening my Thule racks to make it work, I just can't stand seeing them backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    IS there a way to have the bike carrier on roof rails and still have use of the rear gate? I don't mind shortening my Thule racks to make it work, I just can't stand seeing them backwards.
    If you're the same superorb on nasioc, you helped me make my decisions to go w/ Pink springs (picture above was pre-lowering)

    Anyway, the roof rail delete + yakima bars brought me forward only a few inches (so to the base of the stock rails). Here's how much I chopped off the rack to clear the spoiler:



    So my size large 2005 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR 120 BARELY clears the spoiler.

    So since with the rail delete and this little clearance still, you may only be able to clear it if you have a smaller bike.

    I did a little write up here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1388068

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    Why would you delete the roof rails and then add a roof rack? I don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sly_foxx
    Is it just me or does it appear Subaru doesn't really have a wagon in 2010? I know the WRX and legacy wagons went away a while back (a mistake in my eyes) but the new outback looks like a crossover now..

    Whats going on with Subaru? Their cars are starting to look...fat..
    I'm not fat and the back seat of the new Outback is nice. I'm not alone with having 3 kids and I noticed somebody else in my neighborhood is considering it too now that it has a better back seat.

    It also seems like the new roof rails make it look larger.

    So far my Subaru driving has been my brother's Forester and test rides of the new model but it seems nice and the IMBA discount is temping.

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    So without doing the delete and then adding the roof rack, I would not have been able to mount my bike in the direction I prefer (forward). I also go snowboarding and had trouble mounting my 163cm board with my snowboard rack on the stock rails (spoiler clearance issues again).

    Lastly, I love the look of the wagon w/out the rails, so it gives me the option to remove it (takes 5 minutes). I leave the rack off during the rainy months between boardin and biking.

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    Subarus do seem to be getting fatter. I saw a new Outback on the road the other day and thought it was a Forester. The Legacy is huge now too. I'll be keeping and enjoying my '07 STi for a long time thank you very much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonbsays

    Lastly, I love the look of the wagon w/out the rails, so it gives me the option to remove it (takes 5 minutes). I leave the rack off during the rainy months between boardin and biking.

    Well, no argument there. I just think a bike-rack is an even bigger eye-sore than the rails, but if you can take it off in 5 minutes then I guess it really doesn't matter.
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    I need to see if I can trim my trays on the Saabaru. I have the rails installed and also hate the backwards look but so far its the only way to go.

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    Still need to get a good rails, piles of thule and yakima parts collected from family over the years.

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    Nice to see all these scoobies about, great cars bags of fun to drift in the slow although only had it once.

    Car is a 94 wrx mica black kicking out 307.7hp only headers are holding me back.

    I'll post up more about it soon, bit late in the day and it involved a fair bit of typing, that's if any of you are interested in the spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley555
    Nice to see all these scoobies about, great cars bags of fun to drift in the slow although only had it once.

    Car is a 94 wrx mica black kicking out 307.7hp only headers are holding me back.

    I'll post up more about it soon, bit late in the day and it involved a fair bit of typing, that's if any of you are interested in the spec.
    You're not in the states are you? The WRX wasn't stateside until late 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonbsays
    So without doing the delete and then adding the roof rack, I would not have been able to mount my bike in the direction I prefer (forward). I also go snowboarding and had trouble mounting my 163cm board with my snowboard rack on the stock rails (spoiler clearance issues again).

    Lastly, I love the look of the wagon w/out the rails, so it gives me the option to remove it (takes 5 minutes). I leave the rack off during the rainy months between boardin and biking.
    Crap, there's clearance with snowboards too? It's been warm so I haven't test fit the boarding gear on the car yet.

    It's just such a PITA to get the parts and then remove the rails only to add rails once again.

    I hate having the bike the wrong way and having the carrier hang off the front so much. The fairing is useless on our cars with factory racks since everything starts so far back already.

    Yeah, I'm the same Superorb on NASIOC

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    Gotta have a Subie. If you need AWD to get to the trail you know its going to be good.

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    Has anyone found a way (besides rail delete) to have a bike carrier on the stock rails facing forward instead of backwards on a WRX wagon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    You're not in the states are you? The WRX wasn't stateside until late 2001.

    Nah uk cornwall, she's an early import i got her when she had been in the uk with now uk owners for 3-4 months, just sat in the garage being prepped, it was a cat b import so quite decent.

    Running about 307.7hp atm, such a nice car to drive the ride is a bit harsh though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley555
    Nah uk cornwall, she's an early import i got her when she had been in the uk with now uk owners for 3-4 months, just sat in the garage being prepped, it was a cat b import so quite decent.

    Running about 307.7hp atm, such a nice car to drive the ride is a bit harsh though.
    An STi Wagon would be a dream car for me since I already love my wagon America doesn't get anything worth having , too many stupid USA regulations keep the good cars out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley555
    Nah uk cornwall, she's an early import i got her when she had been in the uk with now uk owners for 3-4 months, just sat in the garage being prepped, it was a cat b import so quite decent.

    Running about 307.7hp atm, such a nice car to drive the ride is a bit harsh though.
    soooo... is it turbo charged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    An STi Wagon would be a dream car for me since I already love my wagon America doesn't get anything worth having , too many stupid USA regulations keep the good cars out.
    Your wagon can be just as quick, minus one gear and .5 liters. I have seen numerous non STi, rex's just as fast as the modded STi counterparts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    An STi Wagon would be a dream car for me since I already love my wagon America doesn't get anything worth having , too many stupid USA regulations keep the good cars out.
    You are referring to the legacy STi wagon? I wouldn't want it anyway, AWD + Turbo + weight = piss poor economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 550
    soooo... is it turbo charged?
    it's a wrx
    also it would be very difficult to make 307whp on a 2.0 NA. that would be one hell of a motor with an insane manifold setup though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 550
    Your wagon can be just as quick, minus one gear and .5 liters. I have seen numerous non STi, rex's just as fast as the modded STi counterparts.
    While this is technically true, it would take a considerable amount of money to get my WRX wagon to the STi wagon reliably. Plus, everyhting in the Sti models I'd want: suspension, wheels, brakes, transmission, etc. There's more to an STi than just being "fast".

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    You are referring to the legacy STi wagon? I wouldn't want it anyway, AWD + Turbo + weight = piss poor economy.
    No, I'm referring to an Impreza Wagon in STi trim. It's not available in North America.

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    And its a 94. Not as many cars were turbo charged back then.

    Besides, he mentioned headers, and as far as I know on a turbo car that is called a downpipe... not headers. I'm not even being a technical snob either, there is a difference between headers and a downpipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 550
    And its a 94. Not as many cars were turbo charged back then.

    Besides, he mentioned headers, and as far as I know on a turbo car that is called a downpipe... not headers. I'm not even being a technical snob either, there is a difference between headers and a downpipe.
    on a turbocharged car, the headers collect into an up-pipe, which feeds the turbine and dumps back out into the downpipe. both turbo and NA cars have headers
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    ^^ He's got it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superorb
    An STi Wagon would be a dream car for me since I already love my wagon America doesn't get anything worth having , too many stupid USA regulations keep the good cars out.
    Odd i would have thought the us would be easier for importing cars, im guessing it's emissions and safety rating more than anything else?

    Wagons actually handle better than the saloons as they have better weight distribution.

    The engine is the same cross hatched block as the sti as early wrx's came with that and the alloy wishbones too.

    And yes she is a turbo, when i mentioned headers that would be the exhaust manifold and turbo up pipe, that's the one area that is still standard, the downpipe would be where the cat was only it's now running a tsl group a spec decat and very nice it is.

    I tried using an americanism hence calling them headers we call them manifolds over here.

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    looks nice
    why -1.5 front and rear??
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    Balances out the car, usually scoobies in standard form love to kick the back end out, mine still does but it's very controllable, plus it sharpens up the handling and gives it more feedback, the downside is slight tyre wear on one side, but so long as i switch sides half way through their life then im fine.

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    Looks nice. Normally we do 20% less camber in the rear compared to the fronts. So for my wagon with STi suspension I'd do the max neg camber and do the rears to 20% less of that.

    You can dial out oversteer with a softer rear sway bar, less air pressure in the rears, lower spring rates in the rear, etc. Or, just make the front stiffer

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    USDM subies have a reputation for pushy understeer. I run something like -1.7F -1.2R
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    True but it's more the understeer i wish to eliminate hence why i'll be getting a 22mm rear bar in the future, oversteer i find fun it just scared the hell out of me at first, then i found out they were running the front at 1.5 and the back at 0 no wonder i found her so tail happy.

    Id rather the back end stepped out first, id just prefer it less hair raising.

    That 309gti had the perfect balance, it was a money pit so had to be got rid of, shame though i had it sideways whilst doing 70, bit silly yes but at the time the tyres were bald and i wasn't aware, but at no point did it feel dangerous, such a composed car, shame it was an unreliable pos.

    The scoob i can just fire up and away i go, incredibly reliable and still fun to drive, i only wish we get snow here, we only did for one day this year and my god it was such a blast.

    You guys really need roundabouts over there.

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    Actually how do you folks get around the issue of roof racks, i have no way of mounting it on a roof so i wondered if something like a saris bones would fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley555
    Actually how do you folks get around the issue of roof racks, i have no way of mounting it on a roof so i wondered if something like a saris bones would fit.
    You can't use the rain gutter mounting on your car?

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    Rain gutter?

    I took off the rain deflectors as they are fulgy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley555
    Rain gutter?

    I took off the rain deflectors as they are fulgy.
    The black strip that runs down the sides of the roof near the windows. Usually you can mount feet to there.

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    Who DOESN'T drive a Suby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tongaroo
    Who DOESN'T drive a Suby?
    Actually, most people DON'T drive a Subaru

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    Myself included!

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    Mine in a group drive when I was in Vegas still.
    I have a better shot I like allot more but its got my wife in a skimpy bikini that I didn't know if it would be offensive on here. What I want to know is if everyone is taking both their wheels off to get thier bikes in the trunk cause there is no way its fitting in my STI without taking both wheels off. I mostly just use my truck due to this problem but my wife uses the truck allot and I am out a bike ride if that is the case.


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    We had a meet in the NC mountains a few years ago at the Dragon, hwy 129. Sadly, no meet since has been this big



    Mine is the silver wagon in the middle, notice the sign next to us. This was a fun run down some gravel roads The car on the left is a fully prepped pro rally car. The driver won the last TN rally and I believe 1st in class at Rally WV in August.


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    Nice Subie pics! I drove down to the dragon for a day of driving before I started my new job. The 20 hours of diving was well worth those beautiful roads. The Cherohala Skyway was by far my favorite. Whenever I am not driving my STi I am waiting for the chance to drive it again.



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    ^^ The best roads aren't even 129 but the other roads that are less traveled and with less LEO presence. Another group of us are going out there Oct. 18th and then another group the following weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    on a turbocharged car, the headers collect into an up-pipe, which feeds the turbine and dumps back out into the downpipe. both turbo and NA cars have headers
    Sorry, both my cars have no up-pipe. They mount straight onto the manifold. From there you have the compressor and then the exhuast housing then the downpipe.

    No collector except the manifold itself.

    Doesn't your up pipe go straight from the exhuast manifold then to the turbo?

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    Well I decided to look up the STI manifold assy. turns out you guys don't really have a manifold. So I fixed your statement, and I stand corrected for Subaru turbocharged cars. ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    on a subaru turbocharged car, the headers collect into an up-pipe, which feeds the turbine and dumps back out into the downpipe.

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    My A6 went into the shop today, instead of the usual loaner A4, they gave me a Forester... when I first opened the doors, I was greatly disappointed, super cheap feeling and light compared to what I'm used to. To my surprise though, it was a very pleasant vehicle to drive, and felt very sure footed in the turns. A Subaru may very well be the replacement for my A6! Drives remarkably well, and is significantly less expensive than my Audi... how are subbies as daily drivers and how are they on maintenence costs?

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    i have a 04 wrx wagon and love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bob
    My A6 went into the shop today, instead of the usual loaner A4, they gave me a Forester... when I first opened the doors, I was greatly disappointed, super cheap feeling and light compared to what I'm used to. To my surprise though, it was a very pleasant vehicle to drive, and felt very sure footed in the turns. A Subaru may very well be the replacement for my A6! Drives remarkably well, and is significantly less expensive than my Audi... how are subbies as daily drivers and how are they on maintenence costs?
    Subies are great daily drivers. Reliability is standard in all models. If I remember correctly each model gets a check mark as a recommended vehicle by consumer reports. Also, just about every model line offers an XT model which is turbo charged and very powerful. Subies offer a very unique driving experience as you've noticed and have a very devout following; similar to Volvo. Not to mention Subaru is at the forefront of all wheel drive technology (right there with Audi). The only negative is that you will never find the super quality interiors in any Subaru that you can find in Audi, BMW, Mercedes, VW, etc. Hope this helps!

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    Subarus are lighter b/c they don't have tons of sound deadening and other heavier, more expensive parts that you notice in a German car. The result is a cheaper car that drives well beyond many other cars. The tradeoff is of course quality of stuff in the interior.

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