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    That and the ford 5.8 that was in my Bronco are my favorite engines. I sold the Bronco at 375k, and it only needed a belt pully and starters from 65k when I bought it.

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    Who else here drives a Subaru?

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    If Subaru world ever admit and fix their head gasket issues I'd consider them, but their recall was pouring real steel into it... Lol thats just bad. My dad's outback went through 3 heads til he got rid of it. And it was going when he sold it.

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    I think this is no longer an issue. All car companies do this, at least it didn't kill a couple dozen people. My 2002 has 185k and the head gasket is great. According to my dealer Outbacks (made in USA) just aren't as good as Foresters and Imprezas (made in Japen).

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    My mechanic was saying that he is starting to see Subarus as new as 09 with head gasket issues still, as they reach just 70-80k miles. The only difference is the leaks tend to be external instead of internal as the early 2000s were where they over pressurized the coolant system with exhaust fumes.

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    Everyone is entitled to their own favorite vehicle. Jeep is cool. I like Subaru better, that's all. My '15 Forester turbo is "6-speed" CVT, which was the reason I wasn't thinking FXT first. We drove Ford CVT a few years ago. They said the CVT was made by some German company or something - whatever it was, it was sluggish, slow response, couldn't make it to go! Fast forward, I test drove FXT on a whim and I was taken aback. I drove manual turbo for 10 years until this FXT, so I expected a major disappointment - turned out I was totally wrong! Big departure from Subaru's horrible old 4EAT, much more lower band torque, must be a smaller turbo spooling much quicker than bigger 2.5L turbo, honest 30 MPG on mostly highway commute, etc. It's a very responsive fun wagon. No long term test on this new platform yet, so we'll see how head gasket plays. I was lucky to have avoided that problem despite owning 4 Subarus since 1994 with no major issues to list. Yup, I like Subaru

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkMac View Post
    By doing my own work, I can afford more toys. Here's what a hetero man's garage looks like:



    The Subaru is novel, and admittedly I was *curious*, but if it feels gay and drives gay, then it is g_y.
    Hard to argue with having more toys

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    Who else here drives a Subaru?

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    Hard to argue with having more toys

    Those fog lights are macho, but I bet they can't even drive a manual. What sissies.

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    Gahahahahah that's awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    My mechanic was saying that he is starting to see Subarus as new as 09 with head gasket issues still, as they reach just 70-80k miles. The only difference is the leaks tend to be external instead of internal as the early 2000s were where they over pressurized the coolant system with exhaust fumes.

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    I have over 150k miles on my 2008, no head gasket issues with mine. Engine still runs like brand new. I haven't seen any issues with headgaskets on any newer vehicles on nasioc either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neseth View Post
    I have over 150k miles on my 2008, no head gasket issues with mine. Engine still runs like brand new. I haven't seen any issues with headgaskets on any newer vehicles on nasioc either.
    When I looked at buying a gen 3 outback XT I found it very common for them to have head gasket issues.

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    Our 07 Gen3 developed HG issues and we traded for anXV Crosstrek. The OB was in great shape with only 65K miles but we needed to put too much money in that car and we traded it in. The XV is a very nice vehicle although not as nicely appointed as the LLBean we had.
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    I like Subaru, and I love awd, but i can't chance the hash gaskets, so I'll stick with audi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I like Subaru, and I love awd, but i can't chance the hash gaskets, so I'll stick with audi.

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    You didn't want to chance it with a Subaru so you went with an Audi? Thanks for the laugh, LOL.

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    I've had plenty of German cars... You just have to treat them right. With Subarus, it doesn't matter how you treat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N79 View Post
    When I looked at buying a gen 3 outback XT I found it very common for them to have head gasket issues.
    Given that's the exact same engine block as the STI, then you'd see the same thing there, but really you don't. This hasn't really been a significant issue since the early 2000s. I put over 130K on my WRX 2.0 with nary an issue, where as our old 4 runner blew the HG on the old 3.(slow) V6.
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    I just can't imagine making monthly payments on a car that had a defect that could cause the motor to be a paperweight no matter the maintenence or miles on it. Audis have their faults, mainly in the front suspension... But the whole suspension kit is 200 bucks and needs to be replaced every 75k miles.. Not that big of a deal. And maybe an maf cleaning... Not too bad when you have a car that drives like a dream and can climb a snowy mountain.

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    Man, I better ditch my 04 WRX with 205k before a HG failure. I've had it 11 years and it could go any day now. Most Subies last a long time with regular maintence.

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    Who else here drives a Subaru?

    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I've had plenty of German cars... You just have to treat them right. With Subarus, it doesn't matter how you treat it.

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    Data shows they're far more reliable then German cars and cheaper to maintain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Data shows they're far more reliable then German cars and cheaper to maintain.
    Yea, my next door neighbor has an audi with tons of electrical gremlins. No one can seem to figure them out, and audi/VW specialists are few and far between compared to subaru.

    You need special tools and electronic diagnostic tools to work on any make whether domestic or import. So going to specialists to solve gremlins helps.

    I had my timing belt done at 120k miles on my subie. I googled for a subaru specialist and there were about 5 in my area within a 30 minute drive. 3 of them are used car dealers that only sell used subaru's. 2 were mechanics that called themselves "subagurus".

    Any way you look at it, the design of subies lends themselves to being lower cost in repairs. Removing the engine only takes 2 hours, engine swaps are super easy. I've found that parts costs are very on par with domestic makes. My alternator is still good at 150k miles, but i've priced them at about $100. Brakes are cheap, bushings are cheap, suspension parts are cheap. I really can't complain about repair costs, i do all my own wrenching when i can. The subie design is pretty simple and straight forward, which is why i think you can find more "subagurus".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I like Subaru, and I love awd, but i can't chance the hash gaskets, so I'll stick with audi.

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    LOL! thanks for the laugh.

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    LOL! thanks for the laugh.
    x2 That's a riot.

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    I did my dad's alternator on his outback at 135k,it wasn't hard. I did my alternator on my a4 at 125k, and it wasn't that big of a deal either. They both cost the same. About 150. Audis really aren't that much more money for parts. I mean, if you go through the dealer sure they aren't cheap but neither is Subaru. I've had to buy stuff from them as well. I've swapped out axles on both cars and the audi is far easier. I also like the vacuum system on the audi better. When I'm comparing the two cars which were 2 years apart in age, my car needed far less, and my dad babies his cars and drives like the old man he is, oil changes and trips to the mechanic for every squeak and whatever, yet he had 3 hg failures. Otherwise our cars required the same parts around the same time. Wheel bearing axles and other maintenence parts. But dropping 6k on engine work before the car hit 125k is pretty bad in my book when he's got a pile of receipts of oil changes and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I did my dad's alternator on his outback at 135k,it wasn't hard. I did my alternator on my a4 at 125k, and it wasn't that big of a deal either. They both cost the same. About 150. Audis really aren't that much more money for parts. I mean, if you go through the dealer sure they aren't cheap but neither is Subaru. I've had to buy stuff from them as well. I've swapped out axles on both cars and the audi is far easier. I also like the vacuum system on the audi better. When I'm comparing the two cars which were 2 years apart in age, my car needed far less, and my dad babies his cars and drives like the old man he is, oil changes and trips to the mechanic for every squeak and whatever, yet he had 3 hg failures. Otherwise our cars required the same parts around the same time. Wheel bearing axles and other maintenence parts. But dropping 6k on engine work before the car hit 125k is pretty bad in my book when he's got a pile of receipts of oil changes and whatnot.

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    Well, never had my subaru or other japanese car with a bad alternator at 130K, but the main issue with Audi (for at least quite a few years) was that to do relatively minor stuff on the car, you had to take the ENTIRE FRONT END off. Insane amount of work to do some of these simple things. I was able to change the timing belt in the subaru myself, but there is way more disassembly than that required to do many relatively simple things on those Audis. No thanks.


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    Who else here drives a Subaru?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Well, never had my subaru or other japanese car with a bad alternator at 130K, but the main issue with Audi (for at least quite a few years) was that to do relatively minor stuff on the car, you had to take the ENTIRE FRONT END off. Insane amount of work to do some of these simple things. I was able to change the timing belt in the subaru myself, but there is way more disassembly than that required to do many relatively simple things on those Audis. No thanks.
    Maybe they are called Audi cuz you gotta get the front end Audi the way to do any maintenance on it! ;-)
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    The front end is only a few bolts actually and you don't have to drain the coolant. I've done it to change my thermostat takes about 20 minutes. My alternator was easier to access with the front wheel off through the wheel well. Was only the one bolt I think. It's not bad if you know the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    My alternator was easier to access with the front wheel off through the wheel well.
    Seriously? Do you realize how ridiculous this is?
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