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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    There are quite a few in my town and the nearest dealer is more than 100mi away
    I know but come to NH, ME or VT and you will see nothing but subbies there. I would think the harsher climate states would be the primary market and that dark interior would be more fitting for that climate and road conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    I know but come to NH, ME or VT and you will see nothing but subbies there. I would think the harsher climate states would be the primary market and that dark interior would be more fitting for that climate and road conditions.
    I have not found it to matter much in the cold. My Fit is black all around. Sucks in TX but winters up north it is just as cold as my last car that had tan cloth.

    My dealer told me that subie tends to alternate the exterior and interior colors to appease different people in the next model year because I think some of the exterior colors would look better with dark interior than tan. For me it's mostly aesthetics. Esp since I am moving north in about a month and won't be worrying about the heat anymore

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    Picking up a Venetian Red Pearl 5 speed in about a month or so. I was looking for something good on gas, standard transmission, AWD, and could tow my motorcycles/dirtbikes. Everything had only 1 or 2 of the 4, but the XV has everything I'm looking for. Very excited to pick it up. I got the optional cross bars and trailer hitch. I plan on tossing the mountain bike and snowboards on the roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Are not Subarus more likely so be seen in colder places with a lot of snow and ice rather than in the heat of the South?
    Loads of Subies around here in the NorCal Bay Area. Lots of folks around here like to go to Tahoe for the weekend in winter.

    It never snows here more than a very light dusting once a decade, but we do get crazy rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Are not Subarus more likely so be seen in colder places with a lot of snow and ice rather than in the heat of the South?
    Plenty of Subie's down here in S.Florida too. Lot's of WRX and Fozzy's and the new OB is gaining momentum also...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Also, no air suspension, which was the coolest thing about the A6 Allroad.

    That said, the A4 Allroad will be like 800 pounds lighter than the A6 Allroad.
    Google "Audi Allroad reliability air suspension" and it's is the #1 "issue" with that car.

    It kept me far away from buying one way back when. Lexus has/had the same issues with their Land Cruiser version LX470 with "AHC" system. Extremely expensive to fix once you develop issues.

    Bring over the TDI version A4 Allroad - then we're talking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSJ1973 View Post
    Google "Audi Allroad reliability air suspension" and it's is the #1 "issue" with that car.

    It kept me far away from buying one way back when. Lexus has/had the same issues with their Land Cruiser version LX470 with "AHC" system. Extremely expensive to fix once you develop issues.

    Bring over the TDI version A4 Allroad - then we're talking!
    Not to mention, most owners drive it at full height all the time. What happens is when the car hits 30 mph, it drops to the lowest setting, then lifts back up when it stops, putting loads of wear on the system.

    There are aftermarket bags that last way longer than stock, as well. One company has a lifetime warranty on the bags. You wear them out, they send you new ones, you send the dead ones back. They're actually pretty easy to change out for anybody with moderate wrenching skills.

    Heh... did you know you can lower the Allroad in software? You can use the VAG.COM to fool the computer into thinking the car is higher than it is, so the computer dumps it down lower than stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    ^ your best bet is to simply ask your salesperson again. They shouldn't mind giving you an update if you ask. Ask if there's a VIN yet in addition to the VON. That's a good sign if there is
    They keep telling me they don't have the VIN. Does this mean the car hasn't shipped yet or is the salesman just being lazy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    They keep telling me they don't have the VIN. Does this mean the car hasn't shipped yet or is the salesman just being lazy?
    If they don't have the VIN it means I highly highly doubt your car will be there before the end of the month like they said. I doubt its laziness, it takes like 10 seconds to check your order status; I'm just not sure why they told you it would arrive so quick. Factory order times on XV's have been horrible like I mentioned earlier.

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    Here it is




    I'll get some more pics of it tomorrow with bikes on it.

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    Awesome car! Wheels somewhat remind me of my 12' Focus at a glance.

    Post your impressions later on.

    Btw-you have a ghost in the back seat

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    Nice car!! Looks good in that color.
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    Here are a few pics of my Venetian red pearl 5 speed. They are from the dealer that is shipping the car to my current dealer. Hoping to pick it up in a couple weeks. They need to ship it and then order/install a hitch.





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    Just saw one of these yesterday being driven around! Pretty sharp car if I do say so myself.

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    Ahhhh, nice to see more XV owners now that are also fellow MTBers


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Alberto_ View Post
    Awesome car! Wheels somewhat remind me of my 12' Focus at a glance.

    Post your impressions later on.

    Btw-you have a ghost in the back seat
    She's a cute ghost that will outride most 13 year old girl ghosts

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarW View Post
    Nice car!! Looks good in that color.
    As soon as I saw that color I knew if I got the car it had to be in Khaki. I like the blue too but the thought of getting into the car after a muddy ride and having that tan interior made me shiver. There was just no way I could do orange and the dark grey is just kinda meh

    Impressions - It's much quieter inside than I expected. I've had Subies for fifteen years and have been in a few of the new Imprezas so I expected the typical drone on the highway but it's not there. This car has an almost full plastic skid plate underneath and the exhaust is under that so it's isolated from the cabin and there is a bunch of sound dampening material under the hood, on the firewall and the underbody has a rubbery undercoating that seems to help some too. Unfortunately the tires are noisy but I'll burn through them in year and come up with something better for 8 month use. The steering, for electric rather than otherwise, has a really good feel. On center is good and as you are cornering there is a fair bit of resistance that my Outback doesn't have and the electro-hydraulic that I had in my Challenger definitely didn't have. I like it.

    I only have 140 miles on it so a little more time and I'll get back to ya with some more thoughts. For now here's some pics -


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    aftermarket upgrades

    So with the lack of power being one of the biggest complaints in reviews i've been reading. I wonder if there be third party performance chip upgrades and what not to squeeze out more HP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by summud View Post
    So with the lack of power being one of the biggest complaints in reviews i've been reading. I wonder if there be third party performance chip upgrades and what not to squeeze out more HP?
    There is no lack of power unless you are trying to compensate for something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    There is no lack of power unless you are trying to compensate for something.
    True that
    Everything is relative and if you want power than Subaru is not really a brand associated with that, the WRX STi excepted of course..
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    My small penis aside, I don't see anything wrong with having a little more horsepower in a car that I plan on loading down with gear and driving through the mountains. Besides some of the chips I was looking at claim to increase horsepower as well as gaining a few MPG, how is that a bad thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by summud View Post
    So with the lack of power being one of the biggest complaints in reviews i've been reading. I wonder if there be third party performance chip upgrades and what not to squeeze out more HP?
    That isn't really going to do jack squat. If you had a turbo and could simply up the boost, take more air in, mix it with more fuel from the injectors, then yes, but "chip upgrades" are ridiculously unhelpful with a NA engine. Some people think if they put on an intake, flash the computer, and put on an exhaust, they can turn a 150hp engine into a 250hp engine. It doesn't work like that, and about the only place it does is with turbo stuff, but even that would be too big of a jump to maintain any kind of volumetric efficiency and the injectors would likely not support it. You can't get something from nothing.

    And tunes that 'increase mileage" are suspect as well. If the manufacturer knew of a quick and easy way to "increase mileage", don't you think they'd do that? Some of the ECU upgrades for cars are reported to increase mileage and power. How? By leaning out the mixture and allowing it to burn hotter. Realize that some of these engines (especially turbo) run very hot and need the extra fuel for cooling. So when a tuner looks at the mixture and see's how "rich" it is, sometimes they don't fully consider WHY it's so rich, and soon you end up wrecking the engine because they squeezed too much from it.


    BTW, I would flash and tune my WRX all the time. It was fun. But that was a different animal (with mods) and it's not the same thing.

    Some cars like 335s and others have fairly mild tunes that can be "turned up", again due to the turbo-nature of the car. Others still have "chips" for people to buy, but those are more for suckers.

    You want to make the car faster? Put in stiffer anti-sways. You can usually do that easily under the cost of a ECU flash/chip. You can often get an entire stage-1 kit for suspension under that. Then save up for coil-overs or go with an inexpensive coil-over package. Lots of people chop springs because they like the "look", but it doesn't do nearly as much for traction and handling compared to the above, and of course you'll be far quicker in corners with a stage-1 handling package, heck, just the sways along usually.
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    maybe the dude that posted the side by side pics of his car could edit to post them beneath each other and then subsequent posts would be readable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    I got to test drive one yesterday with the cvt. i liked it. Plenty peppy for me, and the space was good. i like the ergonomics, the light/wiper controls are the same as my Honda. I don't think my xm skydock will fit in the car, but I've been thinking about dropping that service anyway. The handling is much better than I expected. It felt pretty sporty railing it around a roundabout. Also very quiet in the rough road situations. The seat back protectors are going to be an essential accessory for bike hauling.

    I wish there were some dirt roads around where I could have gotten a feel for that part of it, so I'll have to trust that it's pretty capable there. I like the standard seat/wiper/mirror heaters. Makes it a good winter vehicle.

    We are gonna order one and were told that lead time for orders is now 4mo because some dealers were abusing the 6wk order lead times before. 7500mi oil change intervals are nice. Engine layout is also nice. Oil filter setup is the best I've seen (minor, but after owning an 88 Toyota tercel that required getting under the car to change the oil filter I notice these things).

    My car will be paid off in April so right now I'd like to have the house sold before we order. Might be a tall order but I don't want too much on our plate at once. Moving halfway across the country is expensive.
    NateHawk - I'm looking into replacing my ooooold Civic with 220k miles and leaking like a Fox fork. I've narrowed down the choice to the Fit, Crosstrek and Mazda3. I've not driven the Crosstrek, but the Fit was really nice. Ample cargo, excellent MPG and Honda reliability. The wife got a new Outback recently and I'm really impressed. Can you do a quick comparo between the two? Just trying to see if the $5k premium would be worth it on the Subaru.

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    Hello All,

    New to the group. I have had my Crosstrek for three weeks and driven it over 1,500 miles in various conditions. It's a great little SUV, with great road feel, performance and mpg. My previous car was a 2005 Subaru Outback 2.5XT turbo. It went like a rocket (250hp), but got about 19mpg mixed. The Crosstrek obviously does not have that power, but gets WAY better gas mileage and uses regular gas (my turbo was premium only). Ignore the negative reviews that slam the Crosstrek for poor power. Yes, it's not an SRX (duh), but guess what, it's very peppy off the line and only lags a *little* in mid-range acceleration, but not nearly enough to make you think it cannot handle all conditions. I have had zero problems in traffic, up hills, merging, passing, etc. And it is also fun to drive, with good cornering and a sporty look that does not make you feel you are driving a stodgy compact. All in all, I am very happy with the Crosstrek. Oh, one minor point: the suspension is indeed stiff, real stiff. You will feel the road. For me, this took some getting used to, because I am not the spring chicken I once was. But it really does not detract from the overall high marks for the car, and no doubt will pay off when I go off-road. Well worth a test drive.

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    For those wondering about lead times--Not long ago I read an interview with the US ceo of Subaru - A few things stood out-He said he does not hold very many days of inventory compaired to industry standard/other car makes keep months of inventory available - Subaru does not - Subaru has a very small part of the market but a very dedicated customer base
    Interesting stuff if you like that sort of thing...Sorry I could not find the original article but found this one:
    INTERVIEW: Fuji Heavy Bets on US Market to Drive Subaru Sales Growth - WSJ.com

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    Fun fact: I think this is on other forums but I just learned from a Subaru tech that I work with that the Forester OEM hitch (09-13) works with the XV. I say this because if you go OEM it's a bit cheaper than the XV hitch for some strange reason. By learn, I mean saw him do it

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    Just got word today that my wife's XV is en route. Still 6-8 weeks out, though. Gray, Limited, loaded. Can't wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Fun fact: I think this is on other forums but I just learned from a Subaru tech that I work with that the Forester OEM hitch (09-13) works with the XV. I say this because if you go OEM it's a bit cheaper than the XV hitch for some strange reason. By learn, I mean saw him do it
    Any 2" options that will work on XV. I'm new to this Subaru stuff.

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    Any 2" options that will work on XV. I'm new to this Subaru stuff.
    Curt has a new Crosstrek specific hitch with a 2" receiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    NateHawk - I'm looking into replacing my ooooold Civic with 220k miles and leaking like a Fox fork. I've narrowed down the choice to the Fit, Crosstrek and Mazda3. I've not driven the Crosstrek, but the Fit was really nice. Ample cargo, excellent MPG and Honda reliability. The wife got a new Outback recently and I'm really impressed. Can you do a quick comparo between the two? Just trying to see if the $5k premium would be worth it on the Subaru.
    It is hard to make too many comparisons. I have owned the fit Since 07 and drove the xv for 20min. i like the fit. It is great but it feels cheaper inside than the xv. I also have the manual which is quicker than the auto. The xv is WAY quieter than the fit. Def worth 5k

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    I know the urge to compare the Crosstrek to the 3 is there but don't bother doing it.

    I am really impressed with my XV. It's a surprisingly pleasant car to drive, a little noisier on the highway than I'd like but most of that is the OE tires. The mpg is pretty good, I have a little over 1k miles on the car now and am running 28 going round trip in and out of NYC. I'm hoping to bring that up a bit after I change the diff fluids, oil and when we go to summer gas next year. I have already seen 35+ mpg on the road though and for a car with the "wind cheating" profile this has I think that's pretty good!

    Anybody that whines about the lack of power just needs to learn to use what's available, don't be afraid to wind the motor up a bit because most of the torque in this thing is between 4200 and 5k.

    I can't wait for it to snow

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    Finally got to drive one!...

    These thing shave been flying off the shelves her in Vegas and after two failed attempts the dealership was able to keep one on the ground long enough for us to drive. I have to say, after all the talk of no power, (my own concerns included) I felt it was plenty peppy enough. Now, we are just waiting for them to find or order us one with everything we want on it.

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    Cute little car that resembles a Volvo XC60 (IMO) but shorter. Not a bad thing (for me anyway) as I love the looks of that little XC60.
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    I think the wife and I are going to put our deposit down for one after the new year. delivery will overlap well with paying off my car so we'll still only have one car payment. I think we're going to wind up getting the Limited. Pricing out the builds we want with the Premium vs Limited leaves only a $1500 price difference between the Premium and Limited models. kinda makes sense to just do the upgrade.

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    Finally picked up my venetian red pearl 5 speed yesterday! I'll try and get some pictures up later. First impression; it drives like a tall car instead of an SUV type feel which I was expecting. The car is pretty peppy down low and has plenty of passing power on the highway. I am very pleased so far and can't wait to put some more miles on it. For those with the stock stereo who thinks it sounds like ****: With the unit OFF pres 1+4+tune to put it in through mode which sounds MUCH better. Some people have found turning loudness off sounds better, but I prefer the sound with it on. To turn that off with the unit ON press 1+6+tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    I think the wife and I are going to put our deposit down for one after the new year. delivery will overlap well with paying off my car so we'll still only have one car payment. I think we're going to wind up getting the Limited. Pricing out the builds we want with the Premium vs Limited leaves only a $1500 price difference between the Premium and Limited models. kinda makes sense to just do the upgrade.
    I did the same upgrade with my outback. It made no sense to a-la-carte stuff I wanted in my car when a package deal offered more for almost the same $$..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech420 View Post
    Finally picked up my venetian red pearl 5 speed yesterday! I'll try and get some pictures up later. First impression; it drives like a tall car instead of an SUV type feel which I was expecting. The car is pretty peppy down low and has plenty of passing power on the highway. I am very pleased so far and can't wait to put some more miles on it. For those with the stock stereo who thinks it sounds like ****: With the unit OFF pres 1+4+tune to put it in through mode which sounds MUCH better. Some people have found turning loudness off sounds better, but I prefer the sound with it on. To turn that off with the unit ON press 1+6+tune.
    Also, a lot of people test the stock radio and think it sounds like crap solely based off the FM radio. It sounds wayyyyy better with BT-a or iPod
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Also, a lot of people test the stock radio and think it sounds like crap solely based off the FM radio. It sounds wayyyyy better with BT-a or iPod
    Coming from a 2010 Golf with Dynaudio system...the XV system does sound very muffled to me. Also, the bass can only be adjusted so far before rattling the door panels.

    My planned upgrades are a Pioneer avic-x940bt navigation system with steering wheel controls, upgraded speakers, and underseat subwoofer.

    I've already added a hitch and bike rack...will post pics later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trrubicon06 View Post
    Coming from a 2010 Golf with Dynaudio system...the XV system does sound very muffled to me. Also, the bass can only be adjusted so far before rattling the door panels.

    My planned upgrades are a Pioneer avic-x940bt navigation system with steering wheel controls, upgraded speakers, and underseat subwoofer.

    I've already added a hitch and bike rack...will post pics later.
    Do what I just said and switch the EQ to through mode. With the unit OFF press 1+4+tune to switch to through mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech420 View Post
    Do what I just said and switch the EQ to through mode. With the unit OFF press 1+4+tune to switch to through mode.
    I did what you said, and it sounds a bit better. The quality of speakers and especially tweeters in the dash, hold it back. Thanks for that though. Any other tweaks like that?

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    Here she is with hitch and rack...






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    Quote Originally Posted by trrubicon06 View Post
    I did what you said, and it sounds a bit better. The quality of speakers and especially tweeters in the dash, hold it back. Thanks for that though. Any other tweaks like that?
    I have the 4 speaker Kicker upgrade and they sound GREAT. I do want to add the tweeters also though. I have found at higher volume it sounds a bit muffled with loudness on. To turn loudness off with the unit ON press 1+6+tune

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    Nice!

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    The DGM is my favorite color on the XV...looks great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanoeDog View Post
    The DGM is my favorite color on the XV...looks great!
    Thanks! I originally wanted an orange XV, but the only one local was a MT. This one has really grown on me. Makes the XV look classy, but tough at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trrubicon06 View Post
    Thanks! I originally wanted an orange XV, but the only one local was a MT. This one has really grown on me. Makes the XV look classy, but tough at the same time.
    Just saw you post this bike over on the subaruxvforum.com forum . I really like the orange for some reason, but wanted dark grey or venetian red. I ultimately decided on the red despite the stupid light colored interior

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    You can't go wrong with DGM or Graphite Gray on any Subaru.

    My current favorite, after finally seeing it in person, is the Desert Khaki. Not sure if I would choose it tho if I bought an XV but I love that they offered it.
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    My wife and I ordered our XV yesterday super happy as it will be my car and she gets our Outback. This also means I was allowed to pick an Orange one The frustrating thing will be the 3 month wait for it to arrive Will post pictures once it arrives.
    Would rather be out riding!

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    Warning

    If you like to control your car and slide it around, look elsewhere.

    I have the manual. When you let off the gas the engine revs stay up. This means that if you get stuck in the snow you can't do the forward-back thing to work it out because it grinds when going from 1st to reverse.

    Furthermore the traction control does NOT turn off, even when the disable button is active. It robs the power. So when you're in the snow it cuts power, eliminating the benefits of AWD.

    Basically the care works against you. Its a huge disappointment.

    Subaru messed up the drive train on this car IMHO.
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    I think your viscous setup is a little different from the one in the CVT equipped cars. I too found the nanny systems to be more intrusive than I like because you can't even force a drift to get through plow piles at corners, you just point the car straight into the pile and muscle through. I stopped in the middle of my hill and put my foot to the floor and the car wouldn't go anywhere after all the power was cut but when I just eased into it she walked right up like the road was dry. You are right about it killing the fun though, I even started a thread on the XV forum about it.

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