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    Show us your WAGONS!!!!!!

    i love see the different wagons we use to transport our bikes.

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    Winner ^^^. Lock it down now.

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    U must have some killer legs pulling that rv bike trailer!!!!

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    I drive 2003 Volvo XC70 use Saris Thelma 3 bike carrier.




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    Love this car. She now has 210K miles on her and going strong.

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    My TDI without the racks on the roof.

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    '99 Audi A4 Wagon, 1.8 20v turbo with Quattro and 5 speed manual. 188k miles and still going strong. I love this car, except for the driver's seat is pretty trashed. It can haul me, the wife, 2 kids and all the bikes, gear and luggage for a week's road trip. I even slept in it at Sea Otter last year. I just put my camping gear in the roof box. This makes an awesome adventure vehicle, but still gets 30 mpg in normal everyday mode. I've used it to crawl up some steep mountaintop fireroads for work. It got up with less wheel spin than our Ford F550 truck with 4WD.

    It's pretty much stock, except for upgraded HID projector headlights, stereo and Volkswagen Eos 17" rims with 45 aspect tires, and ceramic brake pads on slotted rotors. A trailer hitch and wiring harness were added by the previous owner. I would like to upgrade the suspension to make it less mushy, but I really don't want to drop more money on a 188k mile car unless I have a good reason.

    It also doubles at my pickup truck for hauling appliances and furniture when I hook the trailer to it. I'm actually going to pick up a good used HE clothes washer with it tonight.

    This thing is crazy versatile, and still returns decent gas mileage. Reliability has actually been pretty good, apart from the usual wear-out items like ball joints and wheel bearings... and one front driveshaft I had to replace. It's still on the original engine, transmission and turbocharger. Also, parts are pretty cheap as long as you don't go to the stealership.

    I've got my eye out for a 2006-2008 A4 with 6 speed manual (the last of the Audi wagons with manual in this country) and 2.0t engine to replace this, but I think that has to wait for next year when I have some more cash.

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    I love the design of that early 2000's Volvo XC wagon. I heard there are a few rolling around the States with a manual transmission. If I find one, I would seriously consider buying one. I've also been eyeing Audi Allroads. There are a few that have 6 speed manuals. But, that thing can be a maintenance nightmare. The air ride suspension is expensive to replace. It also gets like 23 mpg at best. My mechanic says he never wants to have to replace the turbos on one of those things again.

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    My old wagon.

    I may have another one in a couple days.


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    Here is mine - 2014 (or 2015 as you Americans would say) Holden Commodore Wagon. Known stateside as a Chevy SS Wagon. I have the six cylinder 3.6lt version but it is a great car. Three bikes on the roof and room for everyone and everything in the back.




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    Show us your WAGONS!!!!!!-68170_567220146627856_1905016292_n.jpg

    Icy? Snowing? Raging blizzard? Who cares? Not me.

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    My '07 Volvo XC70. I LOVE this car! Just about to hit 115k miles and runs like a top. I'm looking forward to putting on another 100k.

    My Ridley CX bike is on top in the pic, but I don't use the rack much because even the Salsa Horsethief 29er I just bought (which is a BIG bike) fits in the back with both wheels on.

    I should call her the porn star, because she'll swallow anything like a champ!
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    I'll always be a wagon guy. I'm still digging my 2011 Jetta Sportwagen, 5 speed manual and just hit 50k miles. It hauls bikes and gear in the summer and its got a set of snow tires and ski rack for the winter. Its never let me down.

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    Is that a AMG Merc in the background? That's my dream wagon right there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojarena View Post
    Here is mine - 2014 (or 2015 as you Americans would say) Holden Commodore Wagon. Known stateside as a Chevy SS Wagon. I have the six cylinder 3.6lt version but it is a great car. Three bikes on the roof and room for everyone and everything in the back.



    Yet another great car that we can't get here

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    Is that a AMG Merc in the background? That's my dream wagon right there!
    No not quite. That's my Dad's '11 E350 wagon w/ AMG sport package. It's no E63 but the 300 hp V6 is no slouch.
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    My Wagons

    Here is the current get-up-that-mountain-FAST bike hauler(2005 Porsche Cayenne S):


    This was the former(2002 Audi allroad quattro Tiptronic):
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    That's a SUV, not a wagon. The Audi counts though.
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    Mine is the white one (pretty similar to Jayen's). My wife's is the blue one. Both are set up with hitches to carry bikes.
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    How can anyone who's been riding as long as I have, be so slow???

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    My 2012 Jetta Sportwagen TDI 6-speed manual. Really liking this car. For the I-70 blast from KC <-> Colorado, we put both bikes inside for better fuel economy. At 75-80 mph, with the rocketbox on top, it averaged just under 40 mpg. Amazing.


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    Another wagonoholic here - last year available in the USA.

    '97 Accord 5-spd, holds tons of gear, @ 330k miles it burns no oil, and gets +/- 27mpg with bikes. Added H&R springs, Koni struts, and Brembo slotted rotors to handle like my Civic coupe. When I replace it, I'll be looking at Acura's TSX wagon.

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    This is what I used prior to leaving the UK


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    Nice rear view of the Avant. This was my '05 Outback XT... slightly lowered with slightly wider wheels.

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    Wagons are perfect for carrying bikes and camping gear. Here are a few I have owned:

    2003 Hyundai Elantra GT 5spd-Not exactly a wagon, but it was fun to drive and you could carry an oven or dishwasher in back.
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    2004 Audi Allroad-This car was awesome in every way, except it got awful gas mileage (16-18mpg) and needed major repairs almost monthly.
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    2012 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen (aka Golf Variant) TDI w/DSG-hauls nearly as much as the allroad, is super reliable, has the best suspension of any car I've owned, gets fantastic gas mileage, and the TDI/DSG combo is a lot of fun.
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    Here's my H.A.R.V. (Heavily Armed Recreational Vehicle). Loaded to the gills on our way to Maine this past summer.

    2007 Saab 9-3 SportCombi
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    It's fun and it hauls. Gets solid mileage, too.

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    Suprised to see so many XC70's in this thread!

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    I'm surprised there aren't more Volvos in this thread. When I think "wagon", I think Volvo.

    At least since the wood grained American wagons went out of production ( I love that Roadmaster!)

    Surprised at all the VW's actually. My brother has one and its a nice car, but it seems a little small. The Volvo is cavernous inside, the near vertical rear window adds a lot of cargo space and versatility.

    The other car on my list before I bought the XC was the prev gen Outback. I drove an 07 but it felt tiny inside.

    As far as Volvo air suspension, its an auto-level, and from what I've seen most do not have it. Also a turbo going out is a rare occurance. Mileage is not great, I get 22-23 this time of year and 25ish in the warner months. Got about 30 once on a long highway trip once though.
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    wagon

    Just need a receiver hitch...
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    That '55 is sick!
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    Show us your WAGONS!!!!!!

    Here's my weekday beater, a '00 Focus. It's not the coolest ride on the road but it is a very functional vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdrewguy View Post
    Nice rear view of the Avant. This was my '05 Outback XT... slightly lowered with slightly wider wheels.
    Nice. Any other shots with the wheels? Mod list?
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    Love, love, love that Nomad!

    My cousin used to have an '84 Volvo 240 wagon (245), we swapped the B20/M46 from a '82 242 Turbo and welded the wastegate shut. Used to embarrass a lot of cars with that clapped out beast.

    I'm hoping to do an ECU tune on the SAAB this spring. My other car is a '99 SAAB 9-3 Hatchback. Just a simple ECU tune and some exhaust work took the car from 170whp/200wtq to 240whp/290wtq. SAAB and Volvo motors are built like brick sh*thouses.

    Few things can match a wagon for utility and performance.

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    Is that a AMG Merc in the background? That's my dream wagon right there!
    Also one of my dream cars, but I would also debadge it and put something like 220 CDI on it to mess with people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central Scrutinizer View Post
    My 2012 Jetta Sportwagen TDI 6-speed manual. Really liking this car. For the I-70 blast from KC <-> Colorado, we put both bikes inside for better fuel economy. At 75-80 mph, with the rocketbox on top, it averaged just under 40 mpg. Amazing.

    Nice!

    I'm seriously considering a JSW-TDI. Turns out A4 wagons with a manual are getting to be really hard to come by. The SW is at least as big inside as my A4 B5 Avant, if not bigger. My primary reservation is the front wheel drive. I had a GTi, and the traction control was non existent. I used to quip that it was one wheel drive. I used to spin wheels up my freeway on-ramp on rainy days in first, second and third gear it was that bad, and that car didn't have much power.

    How is the traction control on that thing? I gotta say, I've been spoiled by Quattro AWD and the double wishbone, quad control arm racecar-like suspension on the A4. The gas version of the earlier version of the wagon is basically the same 1.8t in the Audi, minus some programming and intercooler size, and the newer 2.0 turbo is sporty and easily tunable to 240hp in software alone. The TDI is torquey as heck and as you stated, gets awesome fuel mileage. I love the double long sunroof, too.

    Oh, man... I just looked at the VW website. So, VW no longer sells the gas models with a 2.0 turbo, no manual transmission except with TDI or the base model gas engine. They only have the 2.5l 5 cyl gas engine, which is not that fuel efficient, IIRC. It rates okay for EPA freeway at 33 MPG, but I hear that is very wishful thinking. Dang. Well, I'm thinking a used one a few years old, TDI anyway. This is going to mainly be my wife's car (that I steal for the occasional bike/camping related weekends, like Sea Otter). She commutes about 50 miles each way twice a week, and does mostly local errands.

    I did read somewhere that they have a new model wagon coming out soon, but they are going to call it a Golf wagon, like it is everywhere else in the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post

    Surprised at all the VW's actually. My brother has one and its a nice car, but it seems a little small. The Volvo is cavernous inside, the near vertical rear window adds a lot of cargo space and versatility.
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    Huh... that's interesting. I borrowed a friend's new-ish V50 wagon when I was in Denmark in 2007, and it felt cramped in the driver's seat compared to my MK3 GTi. She had the turbodiesel V50, and it was a blast to drive, tho... Gobs of low end torque.

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    I don't have much to compare it to, but the traction control seems to work OK. I can tell when it kicks in, but it's pretty subtle. IIRC the traction control adjusts engine power in addition to applying the brakes.

    My previous car was AWD, and the FWD of this one was a bit of a concern, but I have no complaints and I haven't had any trouble getting around in snow (even with all-season tires). Yeah it slips a bit but it's manageable.

    VW has shown some AWD JSW TDI concept cars; I don't recall whether they've decided to produce them, and if so, if they'll be available in the U.S.

    This is my first TDI, but I'm surprised they're not more popular. At least for me, it's a perfect combination of sporty, utility, and fuel economy.

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    2004 V40 turbo.. love this machine.. fits my bike with both wheels on.. absolute blast to drive and gets 29.5mpg in the winter with steelies and snow tires ... completely stock other than K&N Cold air intake and filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Oh, man... I just looked at the VW website. So, VW no longer sells the gas models with a 2.0 turbo, no manual transmission except with TDI or the base model gas engine. They only have the 2.5l 5 cyl gas engine, which is not that fuel efficient, IIRC. It rates okay for EPA freeway at 33 MPG, but I hear that is very wishful thinking. Dang. Well, I'm thinking a used one a few years old, TDI anyway. This is going to mainly be my wife's car (that I steal for the occasional bike/camping related weekends, like Sea Otter). She commutes about 50 miles each way twice a week, and does mostly local errands.

    I did read somewhere that they have a new model wagon coming out soon, but they are going to call it a Golf wagon, like it is everywhere else in the world.
    I don't remember whether or not I test-drove the gas engine, but the TDI engine is totally worth it IMHO.

    And it easily beats its EPA mileage estimates. Mine is just under 42 mpg overall, since day 1. EPA rating is 42 hwy; I think city is 34? but you'd really have to work at it to get mileage that bad. Maybe if you only drove block-to-block in a big city downtown. Fuelly.com is a great place to see real-world mileage numbers on all sorts of cars.

    Yeah, I think the new model comes out as a 2015 model, maybe late this year? Don't recall offhand.

    I think the only year for the new model JSW with the 2.0 gas turbo (basically, GTI) engine was 2009. And I think they're pretty hard to come by.

    The new model will also have an all-new TDI engine, and urea injection instead of a DPF. I think it's rated at ~48 hwy IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central Scrutinizer View Post
    I don't remember whether or not I test-drove the gas engine, but the TDI engine is totally worth it IMHO.

    And it easily beats its EPA mileage estimates. Mine is just under 42 mpg overall, since day 1. EPA rating is 42 hwy; I think city is 34? but you'd really have to work at it to get mileage that bad. Maybe if you only drove block-to-block in a big city downtown. Fuelly.com is a great place to see real-world mileage numbers on all sorts of cars.

    Yeah, I think the new model comes out as a 2015 model, maybe late this year? Don't recall offhand.

    I think the only year for the new model JSW with the 2.0 gas turbo (basically, GTI) engine was 2009. And I think they're pretty hard to come by.

    The new model will also have an all-new TDI engine, and urea injection instead of a DPF. I think it's rated at ~48 hwy IIRC.
    Great! Thanks for the input.

    We're seriously considering an electric car to burn fewer dead dinosaurs, but I think the more immediate need is to replace the wagon. I'm just tire kicking at this point, but I wanna make a move this summer.... especially since some knucklehead backed into the wagon while parked on the street in front of my house. I pretty much saw him do it, got his license plate and name, he drove off. Oakland Police has been pretty much useless about this. I filed a report, and they haven't even given me an official note saying they received the report, so my insurance isn't going to help until they do. It's not covered, but my insurance offered to help me track the guy down and get his insurance to pay. Not sure exactly how, but it was nice to offer. Gotta love AAA.

    $2700 in damage to a $3000 value (but worth a lot more to me, because it's going to cost me a crapload more to replace it) car. At least it looked good and ran well before it was hit. No structural damage, but both doors are dented to the reinforcement bars, and the rear quarter is kinked. The doors still open and close okay. Scumbag mufugger, I tell ya.

    Anyway, the wife doesn't want to be seen in a dented up car, so there is that added motivation to do something.

    Oh, I saw that APR has a software tune for the TDI engines. It bumps it from 140hp to 170hp and adds 60 ft/lbs of torque while getting better fuel mileage. I'm starting to really like the idea of a TDI... you know, for burning fewer dead dinosaurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Great! Thanks for the input.

    We're seriously considering an electric car to burn fewer dead dinosaurs, but I think the more immediate need is to replace the wagon. I'm just tire kicking at this point, but I wanna make a move this summer.... especially since some knucklehead backed into the wagon while parked on the street in front of my house. I pretty much saw him do it, got his license plate and name, he drove off. Oakland Police has been pretty much useless about this. I filed a report, and they haven't even given me an official note saying they received the report, so my insurance isn't going to help until they do. It's not covered, but my insurance offered to help me track the guy down and get his insurance to pay. Not sure exactly how, but it was nice to offer. Gotta love AAA.

    $2700 in damage to a $3000 value (but worth a lot more to me, because it's going to cost me a crapload more to replace it) car. At least it looked good and ran well before it was hit. No structural damage, but both doors are dented to the reinforcement bars, and the rear quarter is kinked. The doors still open and close okay. Scumbag mufugger, I tell ya.

    Anyway, the wife doesn't want to be seen in a dented up car, so there is that added motivation to do something.

    Oh, I saw that APR has a software tune for the TDI engines. It bumps it from 140hp to 170hp and adds 60 ft/lbs of torque while getting better fuel mileage. I'm starting to really like the idea of a TDI... you know, for burning fewer dead dinosaurs.
    No prob. Sorry about your situation & good luck with your search.

    Yep, tunes are very tempting - often better performance *and* mileage (if you can keep your foot out of it). If I were to get one I'd probably go with Malone Tuning - they are very highly regarded among the TDI crowd.

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    My last tank with my 04 TDI was 25mpg LOL. I'm about the worst kind of driver for mileage though plus it has been damn cold. I do way too many 3 mile or less drives to get any mileage out of any car I've owned. A hyrbrid would be perfect for me but I don't drive enough to bother spending the kind of many it would take to buy one. I normally get 30mpg with the tdi. Sounds horrible but before that my 03 pontiac vibe was doing 22mpg average.

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    Another VW TDI wagon owner (Golf Sportwagen here in Canada). What a great car, had it for 4 years and 50,000 km with not a single issue. Goes fast on the highway, gets great mileage, comfortable and super practical. My ONLY beef is that the ground clearance is kinda low, but I'm sure that helps with the great (for a 3300lb wagon) handling.

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    Another VW TDI wagon owner (Golf Sportwagen here in Canada). What a great car, had it for 4 years and 50,000 km with not a single issue. Goes fast on the highway, gets great mileage, comfortable and super practical. My ONLY beef is that the ground clearance is kinda low, but I'm sure that helps with the great (for a 3300lb wagon) handling.
    Can't be any worse than my A4 Avant. The sump rides like 4 inches off the ground on that car. I occasionally have to climb up mountain fireroads for work in it, and I seriously worry about hitting a rock and punching a hole in that cast aluminum oil pan. They make an armored plate to protect it, but I really don't want to sink any more real money into this car if I can help it.

    And yeah, my A4 1.8 turbo sedan is chipped. I love it. Same mileage, 40 more HP over stock. I seriously considered chipping the wagon, but like I said... I don't want to sink more money into it.

    Heh... I looked up the weight of the SportWagen.... same as the A4. 3300 pounds. The newer A4s are actually a tad lighter.

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    Great! Thanks for the input.

    We're seriously considering an electric car to burn fewer dead dinosaurs, but I think the more immediate need is to replace the wagon. I'm just tire kicking at this point, but I wanna make a move this summer.... especially since some knucklehead backed into the wagon while parked on the street in front of my house. I pretty much saw him do it, got his license plate and name, he drove off. Oakland Police has been pretty much useless about this. I filed a report, and they haven't even given me an official note saying they received the report, so my insurance isn't going to help until they do. It's not covered, but my insurance offered to help me track the guy down and get his insurance to pay. Not sure exactly how, but it was nice to offer. Gotta love AAA.

    $2700 in damage to a $3000 value (but worth a lot more to me, because it's going to cost me a crapload more to replace it) car. At least it looked good and ran well before it was hit. No structural damage, but both doors are dented to the reinforcement bars, and the rear quarter is kinked. The doors still open and close okay. Scumbag mufugger, I tell ya.

    Anyway, the wife doesn't want to be seen in a dented up car, so there is that added motivation to do something.

    Oh, I saw that APR has a software tune for the TDI engines. It bumps it from 140hp to 170hp and adds 60 ft/lbs of torque while getting better fuel mileage. I'm starting to really like the idea of a TDI... you know, for burning fewer dead dinosaurs.
    It's NO Quattro....but the torquey Jetta Sportwagen is quite a worthy upgrade from the A4 Avant. I ALMOST bought a pre-facelift, 2009 JSW TDI....until the Cayenne S literally rocked my world.
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    Another VW TDI wagon owner (Golf Sportwagen here in Canada). What a great car, had it for 4 years and 50,000 km with not a single issue. Goes fast on the highway, gets great mileage, comfortable and super practical. My ONLY beef is that the ground clearance is kinda low, but I'm sure that helps with the great (for a 3300lb wagon) handling.
    They make steel skid plates for my gen jetta just for that reason. Hear lots of stories of people knocking holes in their oil pans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    It's NO Quattro....but the torquey Jetta Sportwagen is quite a worthy upgrade from the A4 Avant. I ALMOST bought a pre-facelift, 2009 JSW TDI....until the Cayenne S literally rocked my world.
    Literally? Were you standing behind it when somebody did a burnout on gravel?

    Yeah, I would be on board 100% if it had proper AWD. I have a hard time giving up the Quattro. It's just such a blast to drive, even on dry pavement. It feels planted. Rev the engine, dump the clutch, it goes... no drama.

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    You do have to be judicious with the throttle on the JSW TDI or you will lay rubber. I liked that in my audi allroad or other RWD cars I have owned you can generally just punch the throttle and go. For best results, the JSW needs to be pointed straight and moving a little before you punch it. That being said, it is a rare occasion that I find myself disadvantaged by the front wheel drive. I drive on fire roads almost daily (should probably look into one of the pan shields for the bottom-side) and it does fine. I've driven it through a blizzard in Colorado and the only time it gave me trouble was going up a steep incline out of a gas station. I have not spent any time in an A4, but I would say the JSW handles better than my allroad and mercedes I'v lived with. The JSW is just easy to live with.

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    You do have to be judicious with the throttle on the JSW TDI or you will lay rubber. I liked that in my audi allroad or other RWD cars I have owned you can generally just punch the throttle and go. For best results, the JSW needs to be pointed straight and moving a little before you punch it. That being said, it is a rare occasion that I find myself disadvantaged by the front wheel drive. I drive on fire roads almost daily (should probably look into one of the pan shields for the bottom-side) and it does fine. I've driven it through a blizzard in Colorado and the only time it gave me trouble was going up a steep incline out of a gas station. I have not spent any time in an A4, but I would say the JSW handles better than my allroad and mercedes I'v lived with. The JSW is just easy to live with.
    I feel you on the Audi allroad quattro; as much as I loved mine(2002 2.7T)...I could NEVER save any money because the car emptied my bank account, every time something went wrong with it. After being stranded/towed seven times with mine(@198k/mi) I finally decided to let this high-maintainence wundercar go...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Nice!

    I'm seriously considering a JSW-TDI. Turns out A4 wagons with a manual are getting to be really hard to come by. The SW is at least as big inside as my A4 B5 Avant, if not bigger. My primary reservation is the front wheel drive. I had a GTi, and the traction control was non existent. I used to quip that it was one wheel drive. I used to spin wheels up my freeway on-ramp on rainy days in first, second and third gear it was that bad, and that car didn't have much power.


    Huh... that's interesting. I borrowed a friend's new-ish V50 wagon when I was in Denmark in 2007, and it felt cramped in the driver's seat compared to my MK3 GTi. She had the turbodiesel V50, and it was a blast to drive, tho... Gobs of low end torque.

    Really? Aren't those like 200 horse? Maybe try not driving with your foot to the floor?

    My other car is a LS1 F-Body and I can drive it in the rain without spinning the tires if I keep my foot out of it.

    As far as the V50, that's a much smaller car than the V70 (which I have). I wouldn't have gone with the V50 if that was my only choice, I agree that it's too small. That's also one of the reasons I didn't go 05-09 Outback, as much as I love the styling, I was turned off on the test drive by the small interior (and tin can feel).

    I'll admit the V70 doesn't have the best rear seat legroom, but there's plenty of room up front, and with the seats folded you can fit a LOT of stuff in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    Really? Aren't those like 200 horse? Maybe try not driving with your foot to the floor?

    My other car is a LS1 F-Body and I can drive it in the rain without spinning the tires if I keep my foot out of it.

    As far as the V50, that's a much smaller car than the V70 (which I have). I wouldn't have gone with the V50 if that was my only choice, I agree that it's too small. That's also one of the reasons I didn't go 05-09 Outback, as much as I love the styling, I was turned off on the test drive by the small interior (and tin can feel).

    I'll admit the V70 doesn't have the best rear seat legroom, but there's plenty of room up front, and with the seats folded you can fit a LOT of stuff in there.
    The MK3 GTi I had was 115 HP with the 2.slo engine, 5 speed manual. It actually felt pretty good for power, but it would squeak tires pretty easily. They at least tuned that engine for lots of low end torque, with nice long intake runners.

    Heh... my A4 sedan with the chipped 1.8t has like 85 more HP, double the torque, and 400 pounds heavier, but it only gets 2mpg less in mileage and is a lot faster.

    ... and double the issues. I can see why folks shy away from Audi for reliability. They do have issues, but luckily I do most of my own work, so they aren't that expensive to fix. If I had to bring it to a shop every time something went wrong with it, I would be broke. Right now my biggest issue is that my radiator is developing tiny stress cracks that seep coolant. New radiator is $150 and 4 hours of my time to put it in. Shop would get around $500 for that job.

    Yeah, the more I stew on this, the more I think a JSW TDI with manual 6 speed is the way to go. I'll shoot for the model with the huge sunroof.

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    After my 12yr old saab (223,000) got totaled in a parking lot of all places last week, I've been stressfully shopping for a replacement since. Almost pulled the trigger on a new TDI SW, it felt great around town with all the low-end torque, absolutely awesome 6sp gearbox and loved the panoramic sunroof, it let so much natural light in the car. If it weren't for the outback I was looking at after, I would of signed the papers. But the outback just fit the lifestyle better, AWD, high ground clearance, light off road capability, roof rails that twist into crossbars, very nice 6sp gearbox and loved the growl of the boxer 4 in the mid range. Very easy car to work on too under the hood for the latter years. Huge cargo space with the rear seats down if you want to save some mpg's on the long trips. Takes regular gas, so the the mpg difference isn't quite that much cost wise between a TDI. The one downside is I had to go for aftermarket leather since their not offered in the 6sp model. Overall tough finding any thing new these days still made in a manual, especially once you start going over the 25k range.

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    Thanks W, it's almost as badazz as you tooling up mountains on a hardtail with a 24" back wheel in the early days

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    I can't understand why the US doesn't have more wagons. People seem to love them. I'd love to get some of the sweet wagons that we used to have or overseas does have. Kinda sux.

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    My first car was a 1961 Falcon 2 door wagon just like yours, except the exterior was spray-pained green. Bufugly, but a great car. Paid $300 for it in 1972. Thanks for the memories. Yours looks to be in great shape, BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltspd1 View Post
    My first car was a 1961 Falcon 2 door wagon just like yours, except the exterior was spray-pained green. Bufugly, but a great car. Paid $300 for it in 1972. Thanks for the memories. Yours looks to be in great shape, BTW.
    Mine is rough, just an Earl Sheib over bon do, but the suspension, brakes, and drivetrain is all open track- it's a runner for sure!

    And I hate to admit this but '72 was the year I was born.

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    Totally agree. We spend part of each year in Italy and all you see are wagons. No pickup trucks except on farms or for actual work. SUVs are getting more popular.

    We have a 2006 V70. Integrated booster seats for the kids, and the rear facing third row for around town car pooling. Just a great car. I really wanted a V70r but could not justify the cost.

    sorry not a great pic but you get the idea.

    If you go shopping in the USA right now for a wagon... almost no wagons available... so we don't shop for a new car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Richard View Post
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    I learned to drive in a white '62 Falcon Deluxe wagon!

    Here are the two wagons I currently drive.

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    Think they should build these lol Ford would sell tons of them. I always think of this when some one says station wagon

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    I always wanted a huge 1970's wagon...wood grain panels and side facing rear seats...just like the good ol' days....

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    I'm looking for a replacement to my BMW 530xi now that it has 211K miles on it. I keep being torn between just keeping it running (I just love the car) or replacing it before it's ready for the bone yard. At this point, even a set of new tires is something I wonder whether it's worth it to do.

    Anyhow, I've come to find out that wagons are disappearing rapidly from the market. Everyone seems enamored with these goofy looking crossovers and wagons are being replaced. It looks like Audi has cut back big time, BMW no longer has the car I have now but there is a 3 series wagon. There just are not a lot of them around anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    I'm looking for a replacement to my BMW 530xi now that it has 211K miles on it. I keep being torn between just keeping it running (I just love the car) or replacing it before it's ready for the bone yard. At this point, even a set of new tires is something I wonder whether it's worth it to do.

    Anyhow, I've come to find out that wagons are disappearing rapidly from the market. Everyone seems enamored with these goofy looking crossovers and wagons are being replaced. It looks like Audi has cut back big time, BMW no longer has the car I have now but there is a 3 series wagon. There just are not a lot of them around anymore.

    What to do .....

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    Maybe it's just that I live in the Bay Area, CA, but there are a ton of wagons around here. There are a lot of Audi wagons, old and new. Heck, they just released the A4 Allroad a couple years ago, and I see a shizton of them around here. I don't think Audi is cutting back on importing wagons in numbers, but they did stop importing wagons with manual transmissions in 2008 or 2009 or so. I also see a ton of BMW wagons on the road. Also, tons of Jetta Sportagens, Passat Wagons, Acura TSX wagons, Subaru, that Honda Cross-thing ugly wagons are all the rage (although, seems that those are technically Crossover SUVs).

    I think wagons are actually making a bit of a comeback.

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    Definitely a shrinking of choice in wagons - There has been no Passat wagon for years, Audi stopped importing the A3, A4, and A6 wagons, no 5-series from BMW, and Honda does not make a wagon. The Jetta Sportwagen is on of the few wagon choices, especially if you don't want to spend $50k for a "allroad" or $100k for a Mercedes.

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    Exactly, both Audi and BMW only have a single wagon in their lineups when they used to have several. What they have done is replaced them with sort of goofy looking crossovers - you know the type, not wagons and not SUVs but something in the middle that's sort of a car hermaphrodite.

    What Audi and BMW have done is largely being done by pretty much everyone else. Even Subaru's died in the wool wagons (Outbacks) have been tending towards the crossover thing in a big way.

    The wagons on the road are mostly older than 3 years old. Even then the sales numbers were surprisingly low - something like 10-15K units for the BMW versions. So I can see why they did this.

    That sort of leaves me in a spot because my plan was this time to buy a used one, probably off a lease, though a channel I have that gets them for me at a few hundred dollars over wholesale from the auction and drive that. The one was new, but with the economy uncertain, I don't really need to buy a new one again.

    So-o-o-o, not sure what to do. Sad to see the sport wagon thing really taking a digger. I've been driving wagons for the last 12 years and love 'em. Perfect cars.

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    ^ You may want to check the Acura TSX Sport Wagon.

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    Less and less wagons each year. Saab is gone. Volvo stopped selling wagons in the US, but is supposed to start again. Audi only sells the All Road here, while the rest of the world gets the beautiful A6 Avant. BMW only sells a plain 3-series. Mercedes only sells an E-class starting at around $70k, while the rest of the world gets the C-class wagon. Subaru stopped selling hatchbacks as of this year, and the 2010 and newer Outback is more SUV than wagon. Cadillac makes something they call a wagon, but it isn't pretty. VW sells the small Jetta wagon, but the nice sized Passat wagon is gone.

    For us wagon lovers, choices are few and far between!
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    Yeah, it's sad. My ultimate car is the car I have - an AWD true wagon with performance. A SUV is a nonstarter for bikes on top and it's a problem for putting a box on top. My informal survey of parking ramps around here shows that I need to keep the max height below 7 ft. I can't do that with a box on top.

    I drive around half of the year with my bike rack on top, the other half with a box on top for skis. The box on top of a SUV is too high and, besides that, it's a genuine PITA to put stuff in it - enough to make it inconvenient for everyday applications. I did buy one of those step things that fit over the rear tire for our family ski trips to the mountains, but you'd not want to have to do that every day.

    So, I'm going to have to go look at used Allroads and used 3-series. But apparently the model year support on these is spotty with mfgs lukewarm support of sport wagons.

    Volvo is out - I had an XC90 SUV that was a horror story. Brakes every 30K, tires every 30K, transmission blew out etc.. It was a happy day when we ditched that P.O.S. hanger queen. On top of that, for some reason, Volvo can't figure out driver ergonomics either. And then there is the fact that the company is now owned by the Chinese. I'm not prejudiced against the Chinese, they just don't have a good record (or any record) in the auto industry.

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    The rack used to be a hitch rack but got bend on a rear end collision, so I cut it up and install it on the roof, total cost about $2 in "long nuts" the rack was free from a friend.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post

    Volvo is out - I had an XC90 SUV that was a horror story. Brakes every 30K, tires every 30K, transmission blew out etc.. It was a happy day when we ditched that P.O.S. hanger queen. On top of that, for some reason, Volvo can't figure out driver ergonomics either. And then there is the fact that the company is now owned by the Chinese. I'm not prejudiced against the Chinese, they just don't have a good record (or any record) in the auto industry.

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    Ahh the xc90 and s80 T6 models were a piece in volvo's history. I'm sure if you were an early X5 adopter you would have had a similar experience. If you bought the xc90 second hand you had it coming to you. I wouldn't recommend an xc90 to anyone unless it had the 5cyl - which has lowish power and mediocre fuel consumption, but is bulletproof compared the the early 6cyl offerings.


    Do your homework and look again. If you got the v60 t5 awd (with the proven 5 cylinder) you wouldn't have to buy another car for at least 10 years. Not to mention the interior in the new s60/v60 is a down right a show stopper for the <$50k price point.

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    I bought the XC90 the second year it was out because (at the time) it was the only SUV of that size that met the 6000lb GVW (for a tax break for my business) and had a rear seat. This was the turbo 6 cylinder. The 5 cylinder was ok, but underpowered and the 8 cylinder version was fine but a gas hog. Both my business partner and I bought one. His tranny went out at 55K miles. Mine at 100K miles. $5500 to replace it. The unusual guarantee on the replacement part told the story - 1 year warranty, any mileage. Most tranny warranties are 3 years or 100K miles. Turns out it was a GM minivan transmission and the turbo 6 basically was too much torque for the transmission and it burned out.

    The only good thing on it was the tax write off I got at the time. Other than that, mechanically it was a piece of junk. Even more irritating were the ergonomics. Controls and buttons necessitate having to take your eyes off the road to find them and then grope for them. That vehicle was way, way over rated and over hyped.

    I agree, it's always better to wait until a model has matured but the engine was known to be a strong engine that lasted a long time. The problem was they snuck in a cheap transmission. Also, I don't think Volvo had mastered AWD drive trains. I was in a position where I needed a new car, there was a good tax break and I needed to have an SUV. So-o-o-o, I probably still came out ahead on it but what a disaster of a car.

    I was at a ski area loading up and some guy parked next to me with another just like mine - T6, same color everything. He struck up a conversation and it turned out he'd just bought the thing used. Asked me how I liked mine, I asked him if he had started his new transmission fund yet. Poor guy. You're right, buying one used would have been a bad deal and the problem was avoidable with a little research.

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    Less and less wagons each year. Saab is gone. Volvo stopped selling wagons in the US, but is supposed to start again. Audi only sells the All Road here, while the rest of the world gets the beautiful A6 Avant. BMW only sells a plain 3-series. Mercedes only sells an E-class starting at around $70k, while the rest of the world gets the C-class wagon. Subaru stopped selling hatchbacks as of this year, and the 2010 and newer Outback is more SUV than wagon. Cadillac makes something they call a wagon, but it isn't pretty. VW sells the small Jetta wagon, but the nice sized Passat wagon is gone.

    For us wagon lovers, choices are few and far between!
    Saw the caddy wagon at the gp of st Pete yesterday. It didn't look that bad but man, pricey!

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    '12 CTS-V Wagon. Rockin' w 6mt and Recaros. I installed a hitch for a Kuat NV. Works great except sometimes the hitch scrapes when I exit/enter a steep driveway dip...I use the hitch setup so I feel better about mitigating fuel consumption issues associated with a roof rack. But it gets terrible gas mileage on its own just fine. But it makes loading and unloading a snap! Tilting function on the bike rack allows me to open the hatch with bikes still mounted.

    I like the styling, myself. A four door shooting brake.

    The CTS wagon does come AWD in the 3.6l and is highly regarded.

    It's not what I would say is hugely roomy inside, but I've managed to cram quite a bit in in a pinch- took my brother, his wife, niece and 5 pieces of luggage to the airport last week.


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    'Works great except sometimes the hitch scrapes when I exit/enter a steep driveway dip...
    I've had low cars now for the last couple and as long as I take it at an angle, I'm usually fine. There are a few places that I will never try, but they are pretty obvious just looking at them. If it's a city like SF with lots of steep lips in places where there's hills, then maybe not, but otherwise it's always been fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Richard View Post
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    Speaking of Falcons. Not mine, but one of the nicest I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Central Scrutinizer View Post
    I don't remember whether or not I test-drove the gas engine, but the TDI engine is totally worth it IMHO.

    And it easily beats its EPA mileage estimates. Mine is just under 42 mpg overall, since day 1. EPA rating is 42 hwy; I think city is 34? but you'd really have to work at it to get mileage that bad. Maybe if you only drove block-to-block in a big city downtown. Fuelly.com is a great place to see real-world mileage numbers on all sorts of cars.

    Yeah, I think the new model comes out as a 2015 model, maybe late this year? Don't recall offhand.

    I think the only year for the new model JSW with the 2.0 gas turbo (basically, GTI) engine was 2009. And I think they're pretty hard to come by.

    The new model will also have an all-new TDI engine, and urea injection instead of a DPF. I think it's rated at ~48 hwy IIRC.

    Autobytel reported that VW is coming out with a All-Trac version of the JSW next year. All-wheel drive and raised for additional ground clearance. I hope so.

    We cross shopped the Audi All-Road when we bought our Jetta SW for the all wheel drive but couldn't justify the $12,000-$14,000 price difference.

    Loving my Sport Wagon. It's a great bike road trip car. even long enough for me to sleep in the back with the middle seat down. Still gets 32-35mpg with two bikes on the roof driving 75-80mph.
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    Awesome thread. So many great wagons. I've always loved wagons and have owned five over the past 20 years including a '77 Impala wagon, Ford Taurus Wagon, Ford Freestyle (Ford called it a crossover... but it was a wagon), Flord Flex, and now the VW Jetta SW TDI.

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    Although I don't have it any more, my last car was a 2006 Dodge Magnum R/T:


    I traded it Hp for gas milege. Now I have this 2012 Lexus CT200h which is sort of a wagon. Its like a mini Magnum in body configuration:


    Here it is with my bike in tow:

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    2002 Saab 9-5 Aero wagon with 5-speed manual (yes, manual!).

    Currently at 195k.





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    Boy, I have to tell you, I'm really suffering. My ideal car is an AWD BMW 5 series wagon. Looks like the wagon market in general is taking a big hit to the cross overs. There are not many good wagons available anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Boy, I have to tell you, I'm really suffering. My ideal car is an AWD BMW 5 series wagon. Looks like the wagon market in general is taking a big hit to the cross overs. There are not many good wagons available anymore.

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    Agree - and try finding a wagon with a manual transmission. Impossible.

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    Yep, you're right.

    My wagon now has 215K miles on it and I'd get a new one but I can't find anything I like. So, I'm going to keep driving this one and see if something pops u. Great car, drives pretty much like the day I got it but she is starting to show her age.

    The problem or me with the cross overs is that in the summer, I have bikes on top and in the winter, I have a roof box for skis. The roof box is on from November until early April (we ski maybe 60-70 times per year). With a cross over that puts me at near 7' for clearance which keeps me out of a lot of parking ramps that I need to use for my day job. So.....

    Not sure what to do.

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    ^ Seems that (in the US) we're all in the same boat. Trying to find a replacement has proven very difficult, and unless going for the Acura TSX, or the new Golf wagon, my options keep pointing to used 5 series, or MB C320. Am a bit wary of German car maintenance, know that if the BMW was kept up it's reliable.


    Anyone here know about these 04-07 MB (4-matic) wagons?

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    I tend to buy used cars. My current car is a 5 series wagon. BMW currently doesn't have a 5 series wagon new. My car guy who finds used cars for me, after three months, found a used 5 series wagon for me in NY with 49.5K miles on it. I passed on it since I'd have to fly all the way there and then drive it back. There really aren't any used BMW 5 series wagons around.

    They do have a 3 series wagon that the offer as a '14. You can get it either with the gas engine or BMW's diesel. Since I got mine ('06) I *think* but am not sure that they made the 3 series wagon somewhat bigger. So I'll need to look at those, but not sure that's the car for me.

    That leaves the Audi Allroad, which is a current model, but most of them come with the 4 cylinder turbo engine that may car guy says was not Audi's greatest achievement. Seems to me it might be a bit underpowered too. I'll need to look at those.

    Failing that, it's going to be an X3 (easy to find) if the measurements with box come in <7'. I'm not wild about it, I really really just love my wagon. For me, it's nothing short of a perfect car. I've never driven a car this far (215K miles) nor have I ever had a car that had so few issues. It just keeps driving on with just normal maintenance. I change the oil at half the interval (6K miles) and have since the day I got it new. It used to burn a qt of oil every 6000 miles, but now it's around every 1800 miles which is pretty normal for most cars and in the realm of normal for this car. Everything else is fine and it drives like the day I bought it. Amazing car. It looks great, goes like crazy. Getting a cross over or an SUV would sort of be like getting a mom car or something. Just not wild about it. I want another car just like I have now - exact same thing only about a 2011 or so with maybe 35K miles.



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    Nice! I've got an '02 525i manual. Needs the M-tech bumpers and black trim though!
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    Nice. Great cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    I tend to buy used cars. My current car is a 5 series wagon. BMW currently doesn't have a 5 series wagon new. My car guy who finds used cars for me, after three months, found a used 5 series wagon for me in NY with 49.5K miles on it. I passed on it since I'd have to fly all the way there and then drive it back. There really aren't any used BMW 5 series wagons around.

    They do have a 3 series wagon that the offer as a '14. You can get it either with the gas engine or BMW's diesel. Since I got mine ('06) I *think* but am not sure that they made the 3 series wagon somewhat bigger. So I'll need to look at those, but not sure that's the car for me.

    That leaves the Audi Allroad, which is a current model, but most of them come with the 4 cylinder turbo engine that may car guy says was not Audi's greatest achievement. Seems to me it might be a bit underpowered too. I'll need to look at those.

    Failing that, it's going to be an X3 (easy to find) if the measurements with box come in <7'. I'm not wild about it, I really really just love my wagon. For me, it's nothing short of a perfect car. I've never driven a car this far (215K miles) nor have I ever had a car that had so few issues. It just keeps driving on with just normal maintenance. I change the oil at half the interval (6K miles) and have since the day I got it new. It used to burn a qt of oil every 6000 miles, but now it's around every 1800 miles which is pretty normal for most cars and in the realm of normal for this car. Everything else is fine and it drives like the day I bought it. Amazing car. It looks great, goes like crazy. Getting a cross over or an SUV would sort of be like getting a mom car or something. Just not wild about it. I want another car just like I have now - exact same thing only about a 2011 or so with maybe 35K miles.



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    That Audi 2.0t engine makes like 210hp stock, and chipping it goes to somewhere around 260hp. I don't know what your idea of slow is, but IIRC it's like a 6.5 second 0-60 kinda car, bone stock.

    I don't know if I would chip a $50k car right off the bat, but certainly worth it when it got out of warranty.

    But yeah, no stick. Grrrr.....

    The turbo thing... I'm sold on it. It behaves like a small 4 cylinder engine at part throttle, getting better gas mileage. When you punch it, the turbo spools up and it acts like a V6. On my generation Audis (B5, B6) the 1.8 turbo 4 cylinder makes only a bit less power than the 2.8l or 3.0l V6, but uses a lot less gas to do it. Now, you chip it, it makes more power, and still uses less gas than the V6. I think VW/Audi hamstrung the turbo engines so they would sell more upscale versions of those cars. In later years, they dropped the V6 altogether from the A4 line.

    The thing about the V6 cars is that there isn't much more power in chipping them. You pretty much have to get into $$$upercharger kits to get significant gains out of modding the engines.

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    Sold a 01 subaru gt legacy wagon and inherited the wife's acura tsx. The tsx is a super nice commuter but blows as a bike hauler trunks to small. Miss my wagon

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    Vw jsw ...

    Just right....for two..skiing....or just me with all my riding gear....got the 2.5S....gasser....don't drive enough miles so I opted not to get the TDI.....
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    First wagon I had was an Audi A6 Avant b5. Basic, v6, automatic. Not exciting. Got rid of that for a b5 Passat Variant W8. Super rare, I thought it looked much nicer than the Audi b5, I loved everything about it. Except the automatic gearbox, and cost of maintenance. The super duper rareness of that motor made it pretty nerve racking to own as it got up there in miles, so I decided to sell it before it put me in the poor house. It is unbelievable how cheap you can get them, but they are notorious for being hard to work on and being an all around pain in the ass. If I could find a manual W8 wagon with lowish miles that had been taken care of, I would be all over it.

    Anyway, I currently have an 01 528 wagon, manual trans. Lowered a bit, M bumpers, chrome 18" M parallel reps, few other bits. Love it so far.

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