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    Show us your WAGONS!!!!!!

    i love see the different wagons we use to transport our bikes.

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    Winner ^^^. Lock it down now.

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    U must have some killer legs pulling that rv bike trailer!!!!

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    I drive 2003 Volvo XC70 use Saris Thelma 3 bike carrier.




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    Love this car. She now has 210K miles on her and going strong.

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    My TDI without the racks on the roof.

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    '99 Audi A4 Wagon, 1.8 20v turbo with Quattro and 5 speed manual. 188k miles and still going strong. I love this car, except for the driver's seat is pretty trashed. It can haul me, the wife, 2 kids and all the bikes, gear and luggage for a week's road trip. I even slept in it at Sea Otter last year. I just put my camping gear in the roof box. This makes an awesome adventure vehicle, but still gets 30 mpg in normal everyday mode. I've used it to crawl up some steep mountaintop fireroads for work. It got up with less wheel spin than our Ford F550 truck with 4WD.

    It's pretty much stock, except for upgraded HID projector headlights, stereo and Volkswagen Eos 17" rims with 45 aspect tires, and ceramic brake pads on slotted rotors. A trailer hitch and wiring harness were added by the previous owner. I would like to upgrade the suspension to make it less mushy, but I really don't want to drop more money on a 188k mile car unless I have a good reason.

    It also doubles at my pickup truck for hauling appliances and furniture when I hook the trailer to it. I'm actually going to pick up a good used HE clothes washer with it tonight.

    This thing is crazy versatile, and still returns decent gas mileage. Reliability has actually been pretty good, apart from the usual wear-out items like ball joints and wheel bearings... and one front driveshaft I had to replace. It's still on the original engine, transmission and turbocharger. Also, parts are pretty cheap as long as you don't go to the stealership.

    I've got my eye out for a 2006-2008 A4 with 6 speed manual (the last of the Audi wagons with manual in this country) and 2.0t engine to replace this, but I think that has to wait for next year when I have some more cash.

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    I love the design of that early 2000's Volvo XC wagon. I heard there are a few rolling around the States with a manual transmission. If I find one, I would seriously consider buying one. I've also been eyeing Audi Allroads. There are a few that have 6 speed manuals. But, that thing can be a maintenance nightmare. The air ride suspension is expensive to replace. It also gets like 23 mpg at best. My mechanic says he never wants to have to replace the turbos on one of those things again.

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    My old wagon.

    I may have another one in a couple days.


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    Here is mine - 2014 (or 2015 as you Americans would say) Holden Commodore Wagon. Known stateside as a Chevy SS Wagon. I have the six cylinder 3.6lt version but it is a great car. Three bikes on the roof and room for everyone and everything in the back.




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    Show us your WAGONS!!!!!!-68170_567220146627856_1905016292_n.jpg

    Icy? Snowing? Raging blizzard? Who cares? Not me.

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    My '07 Volvo XC70. I LOVE this car! Just about to hit 115k miles and runs like a top. I'm looking forward to putting on another 100k.

    My Ridley CX bike is on top in the pic, but I don't use the rack much because even the Salsa Horsethief 29er I just bought (which is a BIG bike) fits in the back with both wheels on.

    I should call her the porn star, because she'll swallow anything like a champ!
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    I'll always be a wagon guy. I'm still digging my 2011 Jetta Sportwagen, 5 speed manual and just hit 50k miles. It hauls bikes and gear in the summer and its got a set of snow tires and ski rack for the winter. Its never let me down.

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    Is that a AMG Merc in the background? That's my dream wagon right there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojarena View Post
    Here is mine - 2014 (or 2015 as you Americans would say) Holden Commodore Wagon. Known stateside as a Chevy SS Wagon. I have the six cylinder 3.6lt version but it is a great car. Three bikes on the roof and room for everyone and everything in the back.



    Yet another great car that we can't get here

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    Is that a AMG Merc in the background? That's my dream wagon right there!
    No not quite. That's my Dad's '11 E350 wagon w/ AMG sport package. It's no E63 but the 300 hp V6 is no slouch.
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    My Wagons

    Here is the current get-up-that-mountain-FAST bike hauler(2005 Porsche Cayenne S):


    This was the former(2002 Audi allroad quattro Tiptronic):
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    That's a SUV, not a wagon. The Audi counts though.
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    Mine is the white one (pretty similar to Jayen's). My wife's is the blue one. Both are set up with hitches to carry bikes.
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    How can anyone who's been riding as long as I have, be so slow???

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    My 2012 Jetta Sportwagen TDI 6-speed manual. Really liking this car. For the I-70 blast from KC <-> Colorado, we put both bikes inside for better fuel economy. At 75-80 mph, with the rocketbox on top, it averaged just under 40 mpg. Amazing.


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    Another wagonoholic here - last year available in the USA.

    '97 Accord 5-spd, holds tons of gear, @ 330k miles it burns no oil, and gets +/- 27mpg with bikes. Added H&R springs, Koni struts, and Brembo slotted rotors to handle like my Civic coupe. When I replace it, I'll be looking at Acura's TSX wagon.

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    This is what I used prior to leaving the UK


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    Nice rear view of the Avant. This was my '05 Outback XT... slightly lowered with slightly wider wheels.

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    Wagons are perfect for carrying bikes and camping gear. Here are a few I have owned:

    2003 Hyundai Elantra GT 5spd-Not exactly a wagon, but it was fun to drive and you could carry an oven or dishwasher in back.
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    2004 Audi Allroad-This car was awesome in every way, except it got awful gas mileage (16-18mpg) and needed major repairs almost monthly.
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    2012 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen (aka Golf Variant) TDI w/DSG-hauls nearly as much as the allroad, is super reliable, has the best suspension of any car I've owned, gets fantastic gas mileage, and the TDI/DSG combo is a lot of fun.
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    Here's my H.A.R.V. (Heavily Armed Recreational Vehicle). Loaded to the gills on our way to Maine this past summer.

    2007 Saab 9-3 SportCombi
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    It's fun and it hauls. Gets solid mileage, too.

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    Suprised to see so many XC70's in this thread!

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    I'm surprised there aren't more Volvos in this thread. When I think "wagon", I think Volvo.

    At least since the wood grained American wagons went out of production ( I love that Roadmaster!)

    Surprised at all the VW's actually. My brother has one and its a nice car, but it seems a little small. The Volvo is cavernous inside, the near vertical rear window adds a lot of cargo space and versatility.

    The other car on my list before I bought the XC was the prev gen Outback. I drove an 07 but it felt tiny inside.

    As far as Volvo air suspension, its an auto-level, and from what I've seen most do not have it. Also a turbo going out is a rare occurance. Mileage is not great, I get 22-23 this time of year and 25ish in the warner months. Got about 30 once on a long highway trip once though.
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    wagon

    Just need a receiver hitch...
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    That '55 is sick!
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    Show us your WAGONS!!!!!!

    Here's my weekday beater, a '00 Focus. It's not the coolest ride on the road but it is a very functional vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdrewguy View Post
    Nice rear view of the Avant. This was my '05 Outback XT... slightly lowered with slightly wider wheels.
    Nice. Any other shots with the wheels? Mod list?
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    Love, love, love that Nomad!

    My cousin used to have an '84 Volvo 240 wagon (245), we swapped the B20/M46 from a '82 242 Turbo and welded the wastegate shut. Used to embarrass a lot of cars with that clapped out beast.

    I'm hoping to do an ECU tune on the SAAB this spring. My other car is a '99 SAAB 9-3 Hatchback. Just a simple ECU tune and some exhaust work took the car from 170whp/200wtq to 240whp/290wtq. SAAB and Volvo motors are built like brick sh*thouses.

    Few things can match a wagon for utility and performance.

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    Is that a AMG Merc in the background? That's my dream wagon right there!
    Also one of my dream cars, but I would also debadge it and put something like 220 CDI on it to mess with people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central Scrutinizer View Post
    My 2012 Jetta Sportwagen TDI 6-speed manual. Really liking this car. For the I-70 blast from KC <-> Colorado, we put both bikes inside for better fuel economy. At 75-80 mph, with the rocketbox on top, it averaged just under 40 mpg. Amazing.

    Nice!

    I'm seriously considering a JSW-TDI. Turns out A4 wagons with a manual are getting to be really hard to come by. The SW is at least as big inside as my A4 B5 Avant, if not bigger. My primary reservation is the front wheel drive. I had a GTi, and the traction control was non existent. I used to quip that it was one wheel drive. I used to spin wheels up my freeway on-ramp on rainy days in first, second and third gear it was that bad, and that car didn't have much power.

    How is the traction control on that thing? I gotta say, I've been spoiled by Quattro AWD and the double wishbone, quad control arm racecar-like suspension on the A4. The gas version of the earlier version of the wagon is basically the same 1.8t in the Audi, minus some programming and intercooler size, and the newer 2.0 turbo is sporty and easily tunable to 240hp in software alone. The TDI is torquey as heck and as you stated, gets awesome fuel mileage. I love the double long sunroof, too.

    Oh, man... I just looked at the VW website. So, VW no longer sells the gas models with a 2.0 turbo, no manual transmission except with TDI or the base model gas engine. They only have the 2.5l 5 cyl gas engine, which is not that fuel efficient, IIRC. It rates okay for EPA freeway at 33 MPG, but I hear that is very wishful thinking. Dang. Well, I'm thinking a used one a few years old, TDI anyway. This is going to mainly be my wife's car (that I steal for the occasional bike/camping related weekends, like Sea Otter). She commutes about 50 miles each way twice a week, and does mostly local errands.

    I did read somewhere that they have a new model wagon coming out soon, but they are going to call it a Golf wagon, like it is everywhere else in the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post

    Surprised at all the VW's actually. My brother has one and its a nice car, but it seems a little small. The Volvo is cavernous inside, the near vertical rear window adds a lot of cargo space and versatility.
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    Huh... that's interesting. I borrowed a friend's new-ish V50 wagon when I was in Denmark in 2007, and it felt cramped in the driver's seat compared to my MK3 GTi. She had the turbodiesel V50, and it was a blast to drive, tho... Gobs of low end torque.

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    I don't have much to compare it to, but the traction control seems to work OK. I can tell when it kicks in, but it's pretty subtle. IIRC the traction control adjusts engine power in addition to applying the brakes.

    My previous car was AWD, and the FWD of this one was a bit of a concern, but I have no complaints and I haven't had any trouble getting around in snow (even with all-season tires). Yeah it slips a bit but it's manageable.

    VW has shown some AWD JSW TDI concept cars; I don't recall whether they've decided to produce them, and if so, if they'll be available in the U.S.

    This is my first TDI, but I'm surprised they're not more popular. At least for me, it's a perfect combination of sporty, utility, and fuel economy.

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    2004 V40 turbo.. love this machine.. fits my bike with both wheels on.. absolute blast to drive and gets 29.5mpg in the winter with steelies and snow tires ... completely stock other than K&N Cold air intake and filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Oh, man... I just looked at the VW website. So, VW no longer sells the gas models with a 2.0 turbo, no manual transmission except with TDI or the base model gas engine. They only have the 2.5l 5 cyl gas engine, which is not that fuel efficient, IIRC. It rates okay for EPA freeway at 33 MPG, but I hear that is very wishful thinking. Dang. Well, I'm thinking a used one a few years old, TDI anyway. This is going to mainly be my wife's car (that I steal for the occasional bike/camping related weekends, like Sea Otter). She commutes about 50 miles each way twice a week, and does mostly local errands.

    I did read somewhere that they have a new model wagon coming out soon, but they are going to call it a Golf wagon, like it is everywhere else in the world.
    I don't remember whether or not I test-drove the gas engine, but the TDI engine is totally worth it IMHO.

    And it easily beats its EPA mileage estimates. Mine is just under 42 mpg overall, since day 1. EPA rating is 42 hwy; I think city is 34? but you'd really have to work at it to get mileage that bad. Maybe if you only drove block-to-block in a big city downtown. Fuelly.com is a great place to see real-world mileage numbers on all sorts of cars.

    Yeah, I think the new model comes out as a 2015 model, maybe late this year? Don't recall offhand.

    I think the only year for the new model JSW with the 2.0 gas turbo (basically, GTI) engine was 2009. And I think they're pretty hard to come by.

    The new model will also have an all-new TDI engine, and urea injection instead of a DPF. I think it's rated at ~48 hwy IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central Scrutinizer View Post
    I don't remember whether or not I test-drove the gas engine, but the TDI engine is totally worth it IMHO.

    And it easily beats its EPA mileage estimates. Mine is just under 42 mpg overall, since day 1. EPA rating is 42 hwy; I think city is 34? but you'd really have to work at it to get mileage that bad. Maybe if you only drove block-to-block in a big city downtown. Fuelly.com is a great place to see real-world mileage numbers on all sorts of cars.

    Yeah, I think the new model comes out as a 2015 model, maybe late this year? Don't recall offhand.

    I think the only year for the new model JSW with the 2.0 gas turbo (basically, GTI) engine was 2009. And I think they're pretty hard to come by.

    The new model will also have an all-new TDI engine, and urea injection instead of a DPF. I think it's rated at ~48 hwy IIRC.
    Great! Thanks for the input.

    We're seriously considering an electric car to burn fewer dead dinosaurs, but I think the more immediate need is to replace the wagon. I'm just tire kicking at this point, but I wanna make a move this summer.... especially since some knucklehead backed into the wagon while parked on the street in front of my house. I pretty much saw him do it, got his license plate and name, he drove off. Oakland Police has been pretty much useless about this. I filed a report, and they haven't even given me an official note saying they received the report, so my insurance isn't going to help until they do. It's not covered, but my insurance offered to help me track the guy down and get his insurance to pay. Not sure exactly how, but it was nice to offer. Gotta love AAA.

    $2700 in damage to a $3000 value (but worth a lot more to me, because it's going to cost me a crapload more to replace it) car. At least it looked good and ran well before it was hit. No structural damage, but both doors are dented to the reinforcement bars, and the rear quarter is kinked. The doors still open and close okay. Scumbag mufugger, I tell ya.

    Anyway, the wife doesn't want to be seen in a dented up car, so there is that added motivation to do something.

    Oh, I saw that APR has a software tune for the TDI engines. It bumps it from 140hp to 170hp and adds 60 ft/lbs of torque while getting better fuel mileage. I'm starting to really like the idea of a TDI... you know, for burning fewer dead dinosaurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Great! Thanks for the input.

    We're seriously considering an electric car to burn fewer dead dinosaurs, but I think the more immediate need is to replace the wagon. I'm just tire kicking at this point, but I wanna make a move this summer.... especially since some knucklehead backed into the wagon while parked on the street in front of my house. I pretty much saw him do it, got his license plate and name, he drove off. Oakland Police has been pretty much useless about this. I filed a report, and they haven't even given me an official note saying they received the report, so my insurance isn't going to help until they do. It's not covered, but my insurance offered to help me track the guy down and get his insurance to pay. Not sure exactly how, but it was nice to offer. Gotta love AAA.

    $2700 in damage to a $3000 value (but worth a lot more to me, because it's going to cost me a crapload more to replace it) car. At least it looked good and ran well before it was hit. No structural damage, but both doors are dented to the reinforcement bars, and the rear quarter is kinked. The doors still open and close okay. Scumbag mufugger, I tell ya.

    Anyway, the wife doesn't want to be seen in a dented up car, so there is that added motivation to do something.

    Oh, I saw that APR has a software tune for the TDI engines. It bumps it from 140hp to 170hp and adds 60 ft/lbs of torque while getting better fuel mileage. I'm starting to really like the idea of a TDI... you know, for burning fewer dead dinosaurs.
    No prob. Sorry about your situation & good luck with your search.

    Yep, tunes are very tempting - often better performance *and* mileage (if you can keep your foot out of it). If I were to get one I'd probably go with Malone Tuning - they are very highly regarded among the TDI crowd.

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    My last tank with my 04 TDI was 25mpg LOL. I'm about the worst kind of driver for mileage though plus it has been damn cold. I do way too many 3 mile or less drives to get any mileage out of any car I've owned. A hyrbrid would be perfect for me but I don't drive enough to bother spending the kind of many it would take to buy one. I normally get 30mpg with the tdi. Sounds horrible but before that my 03 pontiac vibe was doing 22mpg average.

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    Another VW TDI wagon owner (Golf Sportwagen here in Canada). What a great car, had it for 4 years and 50,000 km with not a single issue. Goes fast on the highway, gets great mileage, comfortable and super practical. My ONLY beef is that the ground clearance is kinda low, but I'm sure that helps with the great (for a 3300lb wagon) handling.

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    Another VW TDI wagon owner (Golf Sportwagen here in Canada). What a great car, had it for 4 years and 50,000 km with not a single issue. Goes fast on the highway, gets great mileage, comfortable and super practical. My ONLY beef is that the ground clearance is kinda low, but I'm sure that helps with the great (for a 3300lb wagon) handling.
    Can't be any worse than my A4 Avant. The sump rides like 4 inches off the ground on that car. I occasionally have to climb up mountain fireroads for work in it, and I seriously worry about hitting a rock and punching a hole in that cast aluminum oil pan. They make an armored plate to protect it, but I really don't want to sink any more real money into this car if I can help it.

    And yeah, my A4 1.8 turbo sedan is chipped. I love it. Same mileage, 40 more HP over stock. I seriously considered chipping the wagon, but like I said... I don't want to sink more money into it.

    Heh... I looked up the weight of the SportWagen.... same as the A4. 3300 pounds. The newer A4s are actually a tad lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Great! Thanks for the input.

    We're seriously considering an electric car to burn fewer dead dinosaurs, but I think the more immediate need is to replace the wagon. I'm just tire kicking at this point, but I wanna make a move this summer.... especially since some knucklehead backed into the wagon while parked on the street in front of my house. I pretty much saw him do it, got his license plate and name, he drove off. Oakland Police has been pretty much useless about this. I filed a report, and they haven't even given me an official note saying they received the report, so my insurance isn't going to help until they do. It's not covered, but my insurance offered to help me track the guy down and get his insurance to pay. Not sure exactly how, but it was nice to offer. Gotta love AAA.

    $2700 in damage to a $3000 value (but worth a lot more to me, because it's going to cost me a crapload more to replace it) car. At least it looked good and ran well before it was hit. No structural damage, but both doors are dented to the reinforcement bars, and the rear quarter is kinked. The doors still open and close okay. Scumbag mufugger, I tell ya.

    Anyway, the wife doesn't want to be seen in a dented up car, so there is that added motivation to do something.

    Oh, I saw that APR has a software tune for the TDI engines. It bumps it from 140hp to 170hp and adds 60 ft/lbs of torque while getting better fuel mileage. I'm starting to really like the idea of a TDI... you know, for burning fewer dead dinosaurs.
    It's NO Quattro....but the torquey Jetta Sportwagen is quite a worthy upgrade from the A4 Avant. I ALMOST bought a pre-facelift, 2009 JSW TDI....until the Cayenne S literally rocked my world.
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    Another VW TDI wagon owner (Golf Sportwagen here in Canada). What a great car, had it for 4 years and 50,000 km with not a single issue. Goes fast on the highway, gets great mileage, comfortable and super practical. My ONLY beef is that the ground clearance is kinda low, but I'm sure that helps with the great (for a 3300lb wagon) handling.
    They make steel skid plates for my gen jetta just for that reason. Hear lots of stories of people knocking holes in their oil pans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    It's NO Quattro....but the torquey Jetta Sportwagen is quite a worthy upgrade from the A4 Avant. I ALMOST bought a pre-facelift, 2009 JSW TDI....until the Cayenne S literally rocked my world.
    Literally? Were you standing behind it when somebody did a burnout on gravel?

    Yeah, I would be on board 100% if it had proper AWD. I have a hard time giving up the Quattro. It's just such a blast to drive, even on dry pavement. It feels planted. Rev the engine, dump the clutch, it goes... no drama.

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    You do have to be judicious with the throttle on the JSW TDI or you will lay rubber. I liked that in my audi allroad or other RWD cars I have owned you can generally just punch the throttle and go. For best results, the JSW needs to be pointed straight and moving a little before you punch it. That being said, it is a rare occasion that I find myself disadvantaged by the front wheel drive. I drive on fire roads almost daily (should probably look into one of the pan shields for the bottom-side) and it does fine. I've driven it through a blizzard in Colorado and the only time it gave me trouble was going up a steep incline out of a gas station. I have not spent any time in an A4, but I would say the JSW handles better than my allroad and mercedes I'v lived with. The JSW is just easy to live with.

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