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    Want to provide some comments on a recent experience...

    I went on a 2.5 hour drive with my bike on the SeaSucker Talon. For the first hour of the drive, I drove between 70 - 80 mph on the highway. For the second hour of the trip, it poured heavily and at one point, everyone pulled over as you couldn't see more than 20 feet in front of you. I pulled over as well and watched the rain clean and pound by bike for a good 30 minutes. After it stopped raining, I got out to inspect my bike and rack. All pumps showed full suction and I proceeded on my way. For the remaining 30 minutes of the drive, there was light rain. When I arrived at my destination and proceeded to remove my bike and rack, I checked once again. All pumps showed full suction. My SeaSucker Talon held up all the way without loosing any suction.

    Would definitely recommend!!!
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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    Want to provide some comments on a recent experience...

    I went on a 2.5 hour drive with my bike on the SeaSucker Talon. For the first hour of the drive, I drove between 70 - 80 mph on the highway. For the second hour of the trip, it poured heavily and at one point, everyone pulled over as you couldn't see more than 20 feet in front of you. I pulled over as well and watched the rain clean and pound by bike for a good 30 minutes. After it stopped raining, I got out to inspect my bike and rack. All pumps showed full suction and I proceeded on my way. For the remaining 30 minutes of the drive, there was light rain. When I arrived at my destination and proceeded to remove my bike and rack, I checked once again. All pumps showed full suction. My SeaSucker Talon held up all the way without loosing any suction.

    Would definitely recommend!!!
    Amazing real life Field Testing. Thanx for the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post
    Amazing real life Field Testing. Thanx for the feedback.
    Yea. This drive definitely tested the Talon and I'm glad to say, it past.

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    What an ingenious idea. Definitely got to get me one of these.

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    Good job! SeaSucker Bike Racks

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    What an ingenious idea. Definitely got to get me one of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    uh. no.

    I have two BMWs both with roof rails on them - a 530xi wagon and an X5. Why would I want to use a suction cup right on the car's finish when I have those roof rails? That would be foolish.

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    Because these are made for people without roof racks?

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    Even if I had a sedan (i.e. no rails). I'm not putting anything on the finish of a car like that. I'd get a hitch installed first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Even if I had a sedan (i.e. no rails). I'm not putting anything on the finish of a car like that. I'd get a hitch installed first.

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    Well, everyone is entitled to their opinions. For me, this is the only exterior option I have with my car (Nissan 370Z) and so far it's working.

    FYI, no scratches to my car's exterior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    Well, everyone is entitled to their opinions. For me, this is the only exterior option I have with my car (Nissan 370Z) and so far it's working.

    FYI, no scratches to my car's exterior.
    U-haul phoenix offered to take the bumper off and make a custom fab receiver for free if I left the 370 with them for a few days, but the rest of the interior space is so limited that I didn't think that car was worth it for me as my "only car", so I passed on the 370 ultimately. Presumably this offer was so they could make more for other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    Well, everyone is entitled to their opinions. For me, this is the only exterior option I have with my car (Nissan 370Z) and so far it's working.

    FYI, no scratches to my car's exterior.
    For what I have in cars, it's not worth it. Even a small scratch would cost more to fix properly than the rack cost new. That seems to me like a bad trade off. If the car has hard points for rack attachments, those work. Rails are great. Otherwise, it's a hitch.

    BTW, you can get custom hitches made. Not a big deal and not particularly expensive.

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    I have a 2011 Cadillac CTS Coupe and I have been carrying my BMC Four Stroke Carbon and my Cervelo R3 with a SeaSucker Bomber for over a year now without any problems to the paint or anything else. There is not a bad thing that can be said about this system. I can't imagine anyone even suggesting installing a TRAILER HITCH over a SeaSucker.

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    Enjoy your rack. I'd never put it on my car for the reason's listed. Is this a great country or what?

    "not a bad thing" - wow perfection in my lifetime. Never thought I'd see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Enjoy your rack. I'd never put it on my car for the reason's listed. Is this a great country or what?

    "not a bad thing" - wow perfection in my lifetime. Never thought I'd see it.

    J.
    I will and I'm sure others as well

    FYI, I did look at a hitch as a possibiliy before getting the SeaSucker...
    (1) More expensive. About twice the cost due to the custom installation involved to the rear of my car to accommodate the hitch mount.
    (2) I would have to leave my car with the shop for "x" amount of days leaving me without a car. Would have to rent a car (increasing the overall cost) or rely on others for transportation.
    (3) I wanted something which would be compatible with any vehicle. Yes, a hitch rack is but the other vehicle would have to have a hitch mount.
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    What you miss is the cost to repair what I'm worried about - any surface damage on the paint.

    Do I HAVE to use this rack or is it my option to do what I want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    What you miss is the cost to repair what I'm worried about - any surface damage on the paint.

    Do I HAVE to use this rack or is it my option to do what I want?

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    That's if surface damage occurs. I haven't experienced any yet and so far no one on this thread has reported any damage to their vehicles as well. I do take extra precaution including making sure the cups, as well as, the surface area on my car are clean before attaching the rack.

    Damage can also occur from using a hitch. Shoot, I have the chance everyday of getting a door ding from careless drivers which would cost money to repair.
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    A decent buff job would take care of any scratches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canker View Post
    A decent buff job would take care of any scratches.
    Exactly, as others as said, I would rather use the Seasucker over having a hitch installed, or mounting a roof rack onto my C-pillars. To each his own, that's why there is multiple options.

    Even if I did get minor scratches on the paint as a car enthusiast, I have plenty of detailing materials and a buffer to do minor paint correction. I already buff the the DD yearly as it is to keep it looking sharp. The winter really does a number on the cars here.

    Ill post pictures of the my DD 1995 Mustang w/ Seasucker Talon rack once I have enough posts to do so.

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    I'm not taking a $50K car and buffing out scratches nor even setting myself up for that to happen. That would be silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    I'm not taking a $50K car and buffing out scratches nor even setting myself up for that to happen. That would be silly.

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    Your comments are base on the fact that this product WILL scratch the paint. If you do your due diligence and clean both the surface the suction will be applied as well as the cup itself, and insure proper suction pressure, than what is there to scratch the surface of your vehicle. You said before that you would install a hitch before using this method, I think that is crazy. Many people who use this product, myself included, prefer the look of my vehicle without a rack or hitch. The hitch on many sedans will actually void manufacturers’ warranties as they can not prove that they have not towed loads above the allowable weight. I for one love the fact this detaches, leaves no scratches or dents, and can be stored in the glove box rather than taking up my trunk or corner of the garage when not in use… Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are basing your opinions on assumptions.


    P.S. I drive a Subaru WRX that I initially had a nice Thule rack up top, until I saw SeaSuckers at a local race…. I have since ditched the rack, enjoy the look of my car and enjoy the simplicity of the setup much better. A coworker with a M3 has recently caught on and has no scratches either….

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    RIght. So it's one mistake and I spend more than the rack is worth in damage to the car. No thanks. If you want to do it, go ahead. I'm not and won't.

    I've had lots and lots of cars, all with trailer hitches. It's never been a problem. If they manufacturer says you can tow, you can have a hitch. It's not an issue. You can also have a hitch and if you don't tow, it's fine. If the mfg tries to disallow a warranty claim when you never towed, that's silly and I've never heard of that happening to anyone I've known. Up here, everybody tows and probably half the vehicles have hitches. It's just not an issue.

    But who cares? Enjoy your rack. I don't want bikes sitting on the finish of my car either for the weight or for potential damage to the paint. If you do, that's great - knock yourself out and have a blast.

    J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    But who cares? Enjoy your rack. I don't want bikes sitting on the finish of my car either for the weight or for potential damage to the paint. If you do, that's great - knock yourself out and have a blast.

    J.
    Everyone has their own view on how they see things, yours is that a rubber vacuum cup will scratch the paint in your high dolla car. I can tell you that in my experience dealing with SeaSucker Bike Racks, im yet to see a scratch caused by it.

    I personally havent used any type of rack that holds my bikes by the frame in many years(i've learned my lesson there).
    Like you have alot invested in cars, i have alot invested in bikes and they did nothing but ruin my frames.

    BTW, here's a pic of one of our many customers that use the SeaSucker Rack on their Truly expensive cars.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post

    I personally havent used any type of rack that holds my bikes by the frame in many years(i've learned my lesson there).
    Like you have alot invested in cars, i have alot invested in bikes and they did nothing but ruin my frames.
    This, I agree with. Don't hold your bikes by the frame (although fork mount is ok). Been there, done that and it ended badly. I also have a lot invested in bikes.

    Just not worth it for me to put stuff on my car finnish and I'm not going to do it. Is this a great country or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    This, I agree with. Don't hold your bikes by the frame (although fork mount is ok). Been there, done that and it ended badly. I also have a lot invested in bikes.

    Just not worth it for me to put stuff on my car finnish and I'm not going to do it. Is this a great country or what?

    J.
    Yes it is a great country and thats fine that you dont want to use it and rather install a hitch rack on a nice BMW but hey, the land of the free the home of the great. I just dont want your misconception of this product influence others that it will ruin the finish of a car

    Your unfounded comments were reminding me of this famous quote:

    “Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world, can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.” – Michael Scott

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    So, I guess I'm not entitled to an opinion if it doesn't meet yours. Got it. Thanks for the heads up.

    You are categorically saying then, that should there ever be a scratch under the rack, you're willing to cover the cost of repair under warranty?

    J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    So, I guess I'm not entitled to an opinion if it doesn't meet yours. Got it. Thanks for the heads up.

    You are categorically saying then, that should there ever be a scratch under the rack, you're willing to cover the cost of repair under warranty?

    J.
    What i've said is pretty clear my friend. You were not stating an opinion, you're making it sound like a fact. follow the instructions of the product, place it on a flat CLEAN surface and you should have any issues. Why are you even questioning about repair under warranty? you just said you rather put a hitch on your car. Furthermore, what company would warranty something that more than likely is caused by user error, i bet you're the type that would put the application on a dirty car just to cause a scratch for a lawsuit..

    this thread was created to share useful information and im bewildered on why you keep engaging in it when you have told us all repeatedly of your bike rack intentions.

    Anyhow, From SeaSucker's Website:
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    I have seen a newer Audi A8 around town with a SeaSucker on there with a sweet carbon bike. I would get one if the cost wasn't an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    So, I guess I'm not entitled to an opinion if it doesn't meet yours. Got it. Thanks for the heads up.

    You are categorically saying then, that should there ever be a scratch under the rack, you're willing to cover the cost of repair under warranty?

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    It's not an opinion, its an incorrect statement.
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    Here is a crappy cell phone pic of my Talon rack. I am very happy with the purchase, it goes on and comes off quickly allowing me to store in it in the car while out on the trails.

    I am glad I went with this over a trunk rack system.


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    Why? Simple. If my concerns are "unfounded" then it's a product issue and warranty should cover it. If my concerns are not unfounded, and apparently they are not, then they won't warranty it.

    It all depends on how well you clean it and if you get any grit under there, you can damage your finish. Seems pretty simple to me and not unfounded concerns.

    Thanks for the example.

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    I put my Seasucker to use yesterday on my wife's 2011 Prius here in the Midwest....super windy day, headed straight into the wind at 70+ mph, no issues. Still got 44mpg normally average about 48..... I love my Seasucker
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    Sweet pics guys and thanks for the real-world data on how well these things hold up to a good storm and highway speeds.

    I'm guessing JohnJ80 is still trolling about how much better a rack or hitch system is to a system that you can actually take with you if you ever get a new car. Man I wish I could afford a $50,000 car just to ruin it by putting a hitch on it. And no the warranty isn't void, but on a car it can greatly reduce the resale value. On a pickup a receiver hitch can increase the value though.

    The reason why it wouldn't be covered by a warranty is because it is unfounded, if there is no reason for a scratch to occur if proper care and installation is performed why would they warranty against that happening?

    A defect of owner is not a defect of product.

    Can't wait till I can afford one of these.

    ProEdgeBiker, how clean does the surface need to be for this system to work? Is a good wipe down with a wet cloth good enough or should it be car wash clean? Or would a slightly dusty vehicle still work, I could care less about scratching my $3K car Or would that damage the suction cups as well, which would be a bigger concern for me.

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    Learn to read.

    The comment was made by supplier of seasucker racks that my comment that a seasucker could damage the paint was unfounded. My response to that was to ask if that can never categorically happen, then any damage to the paint by a seasucker would be covered by warranty. The answer was that yes, damage could occur and it would be considered the fault of the user and was not covered under warranty. Therefore, my comment that finish damage could occur is not unfounded - which was the entire point of it all. It can and easily.

    So, thanks but no thanks. I'm not interested if there is the opportunity to damage the finish of my car.

    Trailer hitches on SUVs are great for resale. And they are no problem on wagons either especially if you can remove them and/or you drive your car to 200K+ miles. At any rate, vehicles with rails on top are not an issue anyhow. Very easy to mount a rack. The Yak Whispbars for these look like factory equipment, are really solid and quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Learn to read.

    The comment was made by supplier of seasucker racks that my comment that a seasucker could damage the paint was unfounded. My response to that was to ask if that can never categorically happen, then any damage to the paint by a seasucker would be covered by warranty. The answer was that yes, damage could occur and it would be considered the fault of the user and was not covered under warranty. Therefore, my comment that finish damage could occur is not unfounded - which was the entire point of it all. It can and easily.

    So, thanks but no thanks. I'm not interested if there is the opportunity to damage the finish of my car.

    Trailer hitches on SUVs are great for resale. And they are no problem on wagons either especially if you can remove them and/or you drive your car to 200K+ miles. At any rate, vehicles with rails on top are not an issue anyhow. Very easy to mount a rack. The Yak Whispbars for these look like factory equipment, are really solid and quiet.

    J.

    OK JohnJ80, we get it, you don't want a Seasucker, you are worried about your paint and finish. I don't blame you, that is important, and I'm a car guy, I understand too. I have, however, put this on my late model BMW with zero issues to paint/finish. Of course, I won't put it on my car if it's dirty and take proper precautions to make sure that it's clean/clear under the vacuum mounts (it sounds like you would do the same).

    As far as I've seen the ONLY thing that's dirty is the tap water/bottled water that dries on the car from having to moisten the mounts before mounting the Seasucker. The only "issue" that I've seen on both of my cars (if you even want to call it that) are the rings that show up on the paint after you remove the Seaucker. A little quick detailer spray and a microfiber cloth take it off in two seconds and the car looks great again (even better that there isn't a hitch or a roof rack taking away my mpgs all year long).

    For the record, I had a Thule Aero Bar rack on my '08 VW GTI and once I removed that when I sold my car there were PLENTY of scratches under the feet of the Thule. To properly wash the car you'd want to remove the entire rack so you could hit the paint with a clay bar and get all the contaminants off. Not an easy task by any means. There are so many positives that outweigh any negatives on the Seasucker...let's just agree to disagree and keep this thread relevant instead of a back and forth between those that actually HAVE the system with real world experience and those that don't.

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    Sure no sweat. It's important to look at this stuff objectively. The Seasucker can scratch your finish, it's not foolproof despite being marketed as such. Can it work with care. Apparently.

    I wouldn't use a Thule or Yak rack that sits on the car finish either for exactly the reasons you specify. Same caveat applies - if you don't get it squeaky clean, you'll get finish damage.

    FWIW, there are no scratches on the rails though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post

    FWIW, there are no scratches on the rails though.

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    Nope, but to get it (properly) cleaned, clayed, polished, waxed, etc, you still have to remove the attachments, and that's where it's a PITA.

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    Actually, check out the new Whispbars from Yak for between the rails. Very quick and easy to take on and off. Easiest rack I've ever used in point of fact. I can get these off the car in probably a couple of minutes tops.

    J.
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    JohnJ80: Just out of curiousity, what type of car do you drive?

    I, like you, am very careful about my car. I park AWAY from everyone and try to keep my 2011 Nissan 370Z as clean and spotless as possible. My car is leased so I couldn't do any welding to the rear which meant a hitch was out.There is a custom rack designed soley for the Z I could buy but it's tower legs attach to the hatch directly and can sractch the paint. I didn't want to store the bike inside my car due to (a) scratches, (b) dirt, and (c) awkward placement. So, I went with a SeaSucker Talon. I found it meets all my expecations and no scratches so far.

    FYI, this is my only car so I have to do with what works.
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    My two cars are a 2006 BMW 530 AWD wagon and a 2008 BMW X5 SUV. Both have rails on top. Both have hitches available both from BMW and aftermarket.

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    so after reading so many replies... sounds like seasucker is the way to go...I have a sarris bones and that thing just doesnn't mount to my 04 honda accord right. it actually fell off once with 2 bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinsurfstar View Post
    so after reading so many replies... sounds like seasucker is the way to go...I have a sarris bones and that thing just doesnn't mount to my 04 honda accord right. it actually fell off once with 2 bikes
    yeah man, pick one up, you won't be disappointed...Great product

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    I have been considering getting these to hold bikes on the back door of a full size ford van... attach seasuckers to the vertical windows on the back doors, back doors can still swing open with bikes attached....

    I believe in the rack... but I question whether the window would hold up! Even with the photos above of a guy hanging on a bike on he back of an SUV... how much force would it take to shatter the window or pull the window out of the vehicle?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightlost View Post

    ProEdgeBiker, how clean does the surface need to be for this system to work? Is a good wipe down with a wet cloth good enough or should it be car wash clean? Or would a slightly dusty vehicle still work, I could care less about scratching my $3K car Or would that damage the suction cups as well, which would be a bigger concern for me.
    What i do before installing it is wipe down the surface with a damp rag, push them down and suck out the excess air.. DONE.. the whole process takes a couple of minutes, get to the trail, it takes a couple of seconds to take off, put it in the car to avoid theft.
    Get back from riding, repeat fist step, go home..

    Versatility at its best...

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    Sounds simple easy. I'll definitely be getting one when I can afford it

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightlost View Post
    Sounds simple easy. I'll definitely be getting one when I can afford it
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    Seasucker Lock

    2 questions regarding locks...

    1. Can you lock your bike to the Seasucker?

    2. Can you lock the Seasucker to your car or do you remove them any time the bike is not on?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG24 View Post
    2 questions regarding locks...

    1. Can you lock your bike to the Seasucker?

    2. Can you lock the Seasucker to your car or do you remove them any time the bike is not on?

    Thanks!
    1. Yes

    You can lock the fork mount of the SeaSucker using a standard key lock (see picture below for my bike).
    The SeaSucker uses a Delta locking fork mount. It does provide some security, but it is not full proof.



    2. Yes

    You can buy a cable loop and an anchor (2 types made by SeaSucker) and loop the bike frame and the fork mount to your car.
    If you go this way, you can disregard Answer #1.

    SeaSucker - Window Anchor



    SeaSucker - Trunk Anchor





    MY QUESTION: Does anyone use a cable and an anchor (window or trunk) as pictured above?


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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post

    MY QUESTION: Does anyone use a cable and an anchor (window or trunk) as pictured above?
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    Lets Face it, is it really worth getting your window busted & your bike/s stolen? if someone wants it, they will get it.

    As far as the trunk goes, that is a better way of securing the bike/mount.
    But i can tell you all that i have not sold 1 of either systems with the ton of racks that we sell.
    I believe its a personal preference if someone decides to go this route for their piece of mind.

    I choose to not use the locks cause my bikes never leave my eyesight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post
    Lets Face it, is it really worth getting your window busted & your bike/s stolen? if someone wants it, they will get it.

    As far as the trunk goes, that is a better way of securing the bike/mount.
    But i can tell you all that i have not sold 1 of either systems with the ton of racks that we sell.
    I believe its a personal preference if someone decides to go this route for their piece of mind.

    I choose to not use the locks cause my bikes never leave my eyesight.
    That's exactly how I thought of it as well. If someone wants the bike they will get it, and I rather that than coming out to my car with shattered windows, or and trunk decklid punctured AND my bike missing.

    For the most part my bike isn't mounted on the car for extended periods of time unless I am at work, but that is a secure lot. If I get to the trail Ill secure the SeaSucker in the trunk since its quick to take off and put back on.

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    I went to my LBS with both our bikes last weekend. I brought my bike in and left my wife's on the car...I did buy the anchors and I tried to figure them out (unsuccessfully) on her hatchback before I went inside....(didn't spend much time on it) but I have to admit I was checking every 30 secs through the windows in the front of the store but even just having a cable locked between her wheels or getting that anchor to work would make me feel a lot better than it just sitting up there, in public with ZERO protection at all. idk, guess I'm more paranoid than others...orrrrr I was in a dicey area in Milwaukee, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f1rst 1 View Post
    I went to my LBS with both our bikes last weekend. I brought my bike in and left my wife's on the car...I did buy the anchors and I tried to figure them out (unsuccessfully) on her hatchback before I went inside....(didn't spend much time on it) but I have to admit I was checking every 30 secs through the windows in the front of the store but even just having a cable locked between her wheels or getting that anchor to work would make me feel a lot better than it just sitting up there, in public with ZERO protection at all. idk, guess I'm more paranoid than others...orrrrr I was in a dicey area in Milwaukee, lol.
    I too have a hatchback (370Z) and curious to see if the trunk anchor will work. May have to place the anchor at the top of my hatch instead of on the side. Don't really want the door anchor as, like ProEdgeBike said, you can simply smash a window. Seems to be happening around my area lately.

    I still prefer to remove my Talon completely, but may find this convienent if I'm at a trail and want to leave the Talon fork mount on my hatch while i am riding. The rear mount can be stored in the car. Cable loop would go thru the 2 rings on the fork mount to secure the Talon. Just a thought.
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