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    Can anyone tell me if Seasucker makes a rear tire holder for FATBIKES..? I want to carry my Carbon Salsa Beargrease Fatbike ..
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    not sure what you mean--most of the racks are fork mount so if you can get your front fork onto a standard 9mm qr, 15mm through axle or 20mm ta, it should work. the rear wheel just sits on a platform with a long velcro strap, it's way too big for any wheel i've put on it really. the 'ladder strap upgrade' may be a bad idea for a fatbike.

    the hornet doesn't even touch the wheels.

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    I put my fatbike on the hornet works well, just asked for a long velcro strap for the seat to rest and hold on to.

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    Very sorry to resurrect this thread but I'm looking to finally put my Mini Bomber "through the wringer" with my FatBike (28lbs). I'm planning to get a Kuat Dirtbag 150x15mm adapter since I think they're much cheaper than the Fork Up or Thule.

    Has anyone used the racks through the winter?
    It can really get frigid here in my area (0F and below) and I'm not sure what are the effects of the coldness to the suction cups.

    I currently drive a mini-SUV and planning to mount it vertically at the back but I'm looking for anchors to have a peace of mind while driving (anyone know where I can get one? )

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    I have been using the Seasucker Hornet for three years now. I live in Michigan and I use them year round The vacuum cups work fine in the cold, the trick is to keeping warm before you put them on. Seasucker?-lemmyfarley.jpg

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    You also need to keep an eye on the grease in the pump assembly during the colder months. When the grease degrades, you can have less than optimum performance from the vacuum pump. That was my direct experience. Truckee/Tahoe climate experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2_mountain_bike View Post
    You also need to keep an eye on the grease in the pump assembly during the colder months. When the grease degrades, you can have less than optimum performance from the vacuum pump. That was my direct experience. Truckee/Tahoe climate experience.
    I'm not sure where exactly is the grease in the pump assembly - care to explain?

    Also additional questions:

    1. when you have it mounted on a cold weather, do you leave it there or do you remove it and re-mount when you're back from the ride?

    2. any alternatives to the door anchor that SeaSucker has grossly overpriced? There has to be a cheaper/simpler alternative out there!


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    These vacuum cups should have been supplied with a special lubricant. I think it is silicon based. You can gently pull out the pump plunger shafts and regrease them from time to time. The only time I've had failures with my Seasuckers was due to lack of proper grease.

    I usually take my seasucker mount off and stick it in the trunk of my car and then re-mount when I'm done riding. I leave my mounts in the garage, so they still get nearly as cold as outside. That hasn't ever been an issue though. Mine are over 3 years old and still work well.
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    Does anyone drive a Mazda 3 (mine is 2010) I just stumble into this thread, which rack would you recommend? I usually just take my bike with me no other bikes. It is a hatchback and it has a sun roof. These look cool but has anyone ever dropped a bike using this kind of rack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcd46 View Post
    Does anyone drive a Mazda 3 (mine is 2010) I just stumble into this thread, which rack would you recommend? I usually just take my bike with me no other bikes. It is a hatchback and it has a sun roof. These look cool but has anyone ever dropped a bike using this kind of rack?
    I've had probably 10 roof racks over the years. I bought a Seasucker because I can move it from car to car if necessary and I have a Porsche 911 I use it on primarily. These racks are very dependable. Mostly I'm concerned with someone stealing it because it pops off very easily when you want it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcd46 View Post
    Does anyone drive a Mazda 3 (mine is 2010) I just stumble into this thread, which rack would you recommend? I usually just take my bike with me no other bikes. It is a hatchback and it has a sun roof. These look cool but has anyone ever dropped a bike using this kind of rack?
    You will want the the Talon 1 model if you're always transporting one bike. I've had mine for six years, I have driven two hours in the rain doing 75-80 mph. I have left it on all day in 105 degree heat and driven home after that, never had any problems. Only had a cup lose pressure, still no problems. Highly dependable!

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    I had mine on the rear windshield of my Subaru and on my flimsy aluminum trunk for 8 hours doing 80mph down to SoCal. That was the hairiest drive I've done with mine. No issues. Keep in mind, I attached a complete Thule side arm rack to my Seasucker Talon!
    I used mine for two years before switching to a pickup bed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy43 View Post
    You will want the the Talon 1 model if you're always transporting one bike. I've had mine for six years, I have driven two hours in the rain doing 75-80 mph. I have left it on all day in 105 degree heat and driven home after that, never had any problems. Only had a cup lose pressure, still no problems. Highly dependable!
    Thanks guys!! I'm still on the fence but the feed back is very helpful.

    Ozzy that's a good review - Thanks! I figured the Talon would be the one that would work best. I ran this by one of my ridding buddies and it appears everyone's first reaction is "no way"! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcd46 View Post
    Thanks guys!! I'm still on the fence but the feed back is very helpful.

    Ozzy that's a good review - Thanks! I figured the Talon would be the one that would work best. I ran this by one of my ridding buddies and it appears everyone's first reaction is "no way"! LOL
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    Nice! I had not seen that one -
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    If anyone's looking for an alternative for the door anchor @Ozzy43 suggested I use a door hinge. I've tried fitting it in and it looks like it's a go. I'll be looping a cable through my bike frame into the door hinge. It'll serve as extra insurance in case the suckers fail.

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    Only thing is that I have to drill my Sea Sucker for new 3/8'' holes for my 15x150mm thru axle mount. I'm thinking of placing it on the middle

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    Have a Talon on order. Silly question - the front cups are to be installed first, then the bike mounted and finally, the 15TA axle installed, correct?

    And when removing the bike, the bike is to be removed from the sucker first? Or are the front cups to be released, and the bike removed together with the front cups still attached to the fork?

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    I take the bike off first then take the take the rack off second.

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    Figured out as much earlier this morning, thanks!

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    Still find it a bit tricky to insert the axle while the bike is up there though. But overall, very happy with the Seasucker!
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    Just got my Seasucker Mini Bomber. I'm only going to carry one bike. I wanted the extra redundancy of having 4 suckers instead of 3 and I might transport more bikes in the future.

    The only thing I don't like is that the front fork mount is only 100mm and my bike has a 110mm front axle. Seasucker sent me a spacer...kinda hard holding a 30lb bike, putting int he axle, and then also having to place a spacer between without dropping the bike on my car.

    So far so good, I've driven about 60mph with it, but I haven't gone on the freeways with bumps/dips...we'll see! I hope it stays put or else I'm gonna have a damaged car

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    I've been hauling my 29er in the trunk of my WRX for the past year and couldn't decide on what type of rack I wanted (roof, hitch). Both had downsides and with yesterday's cyber Monday sale, I couldn't pass up on the Talon. Can't wait to use it!

    Question about cold weather use, if you leave the mounts in the car while riding, do you need to warm them up or are they usually ok? Obviously the temp matters, I'd say between 20-30F would be my concern. Or do you just start the car and let them warm up a bit?

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    Per the manual cold weather doesn't effect anything so long as the cups are above 60F at the time of install so that the rubber stays supple. I just got my rack and forgot to get a spacer for my boosted fork so haven't tried it out. My concern with the temp is when I take the rack off once I get to the trail head and let it sit in my freezing car for a few hours then want to put it back on. If it's a sunny day maybe putting it in the front or rear window with the cups facing up could help. Gonna be a kind of annoying if I have to try and hold those cups in front of my cars vents a few minutes to warm them up before putting it back on.

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    Why take it off at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Why take it off at all?
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    Or your bike could fall off of your car. Risk one or the other.
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    Those are reasons why I passed on this and got a hitch. Looks cool and practical but the thought of my bike flying off my car on the freeway just freaks me out lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Btjone06 View Post
    Per the manual cold weather doesn't effect anything so long as the cups are above 60F at the time of install so that the rubber stays supple. I just got my rack and forgot to get a spacer for my boosted fork so haven't tried it out. My concern with the temp is when I take the rack off once I get to the trail head and let it sit in my freezing car for a few hours then want to put it back on. If it's a sunny day maybe putting it in the front or rear window with the cups facing up could help. Gonna be a kind of annoying if I have to try and hold those cups in front of my cars vents a few minutes to warm them up before putting it back on.
    That's my concern as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcd46 View Post
    Those are reasons why I passed on this and got a hitch. Looks cool and practical but the thought of my bike flying off my car on the freeway just freaks me out lol
    Because of putting the rack back on after sitting in the car while riding or another reason? From what I can tell, during cold weather use as long as the pumps have vacuum it should be ok, but correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basso4735 View Post
    That's my concern as well.


    Because of putting the rack back on after sitting in the car while riding or another reason? From what I can tell, during cold weather use as long as the pumps have vacuum it should be ok, but correct me if I'm wrong.
    No, I live is SoCal so cold is not an issue, it was more in general, if the functionality fails.. adios Bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcd46 View Post
    No, I live is SoCal so cold is not an issue, it was more in general, if the functionality fails.. adios Bike.
    The risk of the functionality is extremely low. The company started out building things for boats, one example a tank holder for SCUBA tanks. These can weigh quite a bit more than a bike depending on configuration. Thing is if a bike rack fails its potentially a very expensive mistake. If a tank holder fails there is a real possibility it results in serious injury or death.

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    Could be said with any rack, but I understand the fear for sure.

    No issues with my Talon after a couple 30 minute trips on top of my WRX on the highway . I just bought a fork up adapter for the new fat bike as well. Getting close to the weight limit but should still be under, can't wait to try it out.

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    Just out of curiosity, can you run a Falcon Seasucker on a car? My thought here is to get one of those, and then a rear vacuum mount and the strap and save some money. Bike would be in sub 20lb range and the Falcon would be mounted to the rear window of a 2013 Mustang GT. The only difference I see is that there is not the third vacuum mount behind the front two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenSpeed View Post
    Just out of curiosity, can you run a Falcon Seasucker on a car? My thought here is to get one of those, and then a rear vacuum mount and the strap and save some money. Bike would be in sub 20lb range and the Falcon would be mounted to the rear window of a 2013 Mustang GT. The only difference I see is that there is not the third vacuum mount behind the front two.
    I wouldn't, with just the two cups, and them being being so narrow, it's going to put quite a bit of lateral force into that thin aluminum roof. I don't think you'll be able to fit the mount on the glass and have room to mount the rear wheel cup. I don't on my Z and it's not close.

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    Fatty looking good up there. Went with the Fork Up 15x150 adapter. A little clunky over bumps but holds good enough.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckerjt07 View Post
    I wouldn't, with just the two cups, and them being being so narrow, it's going to put quite a bit of lateral force into that thin aluminum roof. I don't think you'll be able to fit the mount on the glass and have room to mount the rear wheel cup. I don't on my Z and it's not close.

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    Front mount would be at bottom of rear glass, rear cup would be on the roof.



    I was a dummy head and sold the thing and now I am thinking I would like to get another one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenSpeed View Post
    Front mount would be at bottom of rear glass, rear cup would be on the roof.



    I was a dummy head and sold the thing and now I am thinking I would like to get another one.
    I still wouldn't do it, especially in that configuration. Without the third cup you're going to have quite a bit of braking and acceleration forces transfered through. Even the bombers are swept back to alleviate that. Also with that single cup on the roof, I know you've ran it before, I'd still be worried about bubbling, even more so without an offset effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckerjt07 View Post
    I still wouldn't do it, especially in that configuration. Without the third cup you're going to have quite a bit of braking and acceleration forces transfered through. Even the bombers are swept back to alleviate that. Also with that single cup on the roof, I know you've ran it before, I'd still be worried about bubbling, even more so without an offset effect.

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    I was more worried with the three cups on the roof as the roof does not seem stable enough to run it on there. This was the most stable configuration that I could come up with. The metal on the roof is very thin and I could hear it giving way on the test run just down the street. Once I flipped it around as pictured, it became much more stable since the front three cups were then mounted to a more solid object like the rear window. The single rear cup did just fine up there on the roof.
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    This is exactly how you would NOT want to run it on any car. For some reason, I could only get the cups to suction in this position on the glass, so I tried it. Was absolutely white knuckling it the whole drive. No vacuum loss on any of the cups and it was fine up there, but I would recommend never driving like this with any bike up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenSpeed View Post
    I was more worried with the three cups on the roof as the roof does not seem stable enough to run it on there. This was the most stable configuration that I could come up with. The metal on the roof is very thin and I could hear it giving way on the test run just down the street. Once I flipped it around as pictured, it became much more stable since the front three cups were then mounted to a more solid object like the rear window. The single rear cup did just fine up there on the roof.
    The single cup is going to transmit a more focused force through it than the three, they are able to more effectively distribute it. This is only my opinion.

    Here is what Seasucker has to say about it as well.



    The higher point will have the least amount of weight on it, especially if it's the lighter end of the bike, and be more prone to movement. That's one reason why you need the anchor with the most distributed force there.

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    Yep, I read that several times. Mounting it forward doesn't work on this car unfortunately. The roof is not stable enough to hold the three cups well enough. I understand the risks involved in running it backwards. For this car, that is the only way it will work however. Mounting the three cups to the rear glass is far more stable than the roof. The single rear cup works well on the roof, mostly because there is little to no weight on it, and it is mounted near the rear glass where the roof surface is more rigid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenSpeed View Post
    Yep, I read that several times. Mounting it forward doesn't work on this car unfortunately. The roof is not stable enough to hold the three cups well enough. I understand the risks involved in running it backwards. For this car, that is the only way it will work however. Mounting the three cups to the rear glass is far more stable than the roof. The single rear cup works well on the roof, mostly because there is little to no weight on it, and it is mounted near the rear glass where the roof surface is more rigid.
    I have seen bikes mounted all kinds of crazy ways.

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