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    1up Quick Rack Quick Review.

    Just received my 1up quick racks. I must say that pics do not do this rack justice! It is simply beautiful. Well engineered. I love looking at it. I also love the super low profile of the rack. With one rack on and folded up, I can still open the hatch. With two racks on and in the midway position i can open the hatch. Everything is as easy as the claims. I was able to install the rack and add on without reading the instructions in less than 3 minutes. The hitch connection is very secure. I think i'll put a lock on it still since i'm not fully sold that the hex key is theft proof and I don't want to take it on and off repeatedly.

    Price wise it is a little on the pricey side, especially since i can get a really good discount on yakima and thule products.

    I considered the following other racks before purchasing this for my 2010 Touareg TDI:
    Kuat NV
    Yakima Holdup
    Thule T2
    Saris Cycle On Pro

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    I agree. I have one and think it's fantastic.

    The best part is that it is so easy to put on - literally 30 seconds and the rack is mounted.

    I'm pretty confident in the anti theft provisions, but then I don't live in an area where people steal stuff in general and racks in particular. Someone here did a thing with a U lock that was very clean and trim.

    I love my 1Upusa rack.

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    This thread is useless without pics.





    Looks pretty slick. I like the fact that is is super low profile, and does not block the taillights or license place when unloaded. I got popped for obstructed license plate a couple years ago with my Performance X-Port rack.

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    Here's mine:









    and finally, tray options that can be either roof top or hitch mounted



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    1 up needs to lower their prices if they want to get more into the game IMO.
    I tried to convince a few of my friends to pony up for the system so we could share the add-on kits and car pool more but the Thule T2 is already more expensive than most people want to spend. The price point needs to come down closer to the T2.
    1up USA 2 bike carrier $300+200 = $500
    T2 2 bike carrier $350
    Not much in essence but that extra $150 has stopped 3 of my friends from buying the rack.

    I am aware the price gets closer with a 4 bike setup but we want to share the add-ons.
    I like the rack for sure but not enough over the T2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wormvine
    1 up needs to lower their prices if they want to get into the game.
    Figured I'd fix your sentence. @ $300 to carry only 1 bike is way out of the market even though they do have a good design. Their web site is a bit clunky as well. If they hooked you up with two carriers for $300 I think they would make more money even if they made no other changes to the system.

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    To the current 1up rack owners: how well do larger (2.3-2.5) tires fit?

    Thanks!

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    There is nothing even close to this rack.

    Because I can use the modules for either AND both cards simultaneously - hitch and roof - it's cheaper. Besides that, I'm not interested in manhandling and then trying to store a 4 bike Thule or Yak. This one, I can put and take off the care in literally 30 seconds by myself - and so can my wife. So, for that, I was happy to pay a premium on the parts.

    I don't think they have any desire to get into a head to head competition with Yak or Thule. I also think they have made themselves a really nice business so far and their customer service is beyond first rate.

    If the 1upusa rack is too pricey, the Raxter racks are a very nice alternative.

    I'd have to check, but I think they would do ok with the larger tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80
    There is nothing even close to this rack.

    Because I can use the modules for either AND both cards simultaneously - hitch and roof - it's cheaper. Besides that, I'm not interested in manhandling and then trying to store a 4 bike Thule or Yak. This one, I can put and take off the care in literally 30 seconds by myself - and so can my wife. So, for that, I was happy to pay a premium on the parts.

    I don't think they have any desire to get into a head to head competition with Yak or Thule. I also think they have made themselves a really nice business so far and their customer service is beyond first rate.

    If the 1upusa rack is too pricey, the Raxter racks are a very nice alternative.

    I'd have to check, but I think they would do ok with the larger tires.

    J.
    I have a couple of questions?
    Can your wife remove the rack without disassembly in its 4 bike configuration?
    Are you affiliated in any way with 1up?

    And for the record I can remove the Thule T2 in 30 seconds as well once I have the wrench in my hand.

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    People keep talking about the "cost" of the 1up rack and I wonder how often they have more than one bike on their rack? I know I have never *needed* to carry another bike since my partner doesn't ride and I usually ride alone. If my wider ever changes her mind then I'll buy an add on then. I had a roof rack and I only had a single tray on that, too. Doing the math, a complete roof setup was over $500 for a single bike setup. Doesn't seem too affordable, comparatively.

    Anyhow, I agree with the poster above that 1up USA seems to have established their niche and aren't too interested in competing directly with the big manufacturers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wormvine
    I have a couple of questions?
    Can your wife remove the rack without disassembly in its 4 bike configuration?
    Yes, but ...

    It's not necessary. It takes less than 30 seconds to add or remove an extra module . We store them as separate pieces and use what we need when we need it. That's 30 seconds from the wall (or back to) in the garage to mounted on the car.

    Are you affiliated in any way with 1up?
    Nope other than being a customer. I found them on the internet and purchased one full price. For what it's worth, I can get Thule and Yakima stuff on pro discount and decided to buy 1UpUSA instead for which I get no discount. I simply feel it is the, bar none, the best rack out there - and it ought to be since it is the most expensive.

    And for the record I can remove the Thule T2 in 30 seconds as well once I have the wrench in my hand.
    Then you are a better man than I, Gunga Din.

    I also find storing the racks like the T2 and equivalent Yak to be a pain. Way too heavy. Way too awkward to manage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80
    Yes, but ...

    It's not necessary. It takes less than 30 seconds to add or remove an extra module . We store them as separate pieces and use what we need when we need it. That's 30 seconds from the wall (or back to) in the garage to mounted on the car.



    Nope other than being a customer. I found them on the internet and purchased one full price. For what it's worth, I can get Thule and Yakima stuff on pro discount and decided to buy 1UpUSA instead for which I get no discount. I simply feel it is the, bar none, the best rack out there - and it ought to be since it is the most expensive.



    Then you are a better man than I, Gunga Din.

    I also find storing the racks like the T2 and equivalent Yak to be a pain. Way too heavy. Way too awkward to manage.

    J.
    OK thanks for the info. I agree storing the T2 can be a pain if you haven't the space. I have a good place for mine so it's not an issue atm.
    My rack is on for 6mos of the year and stored the rest. I do like the modularity of the 1up rack for sure as I usually need a 3rd space not really a 4th. The cost increase isn't really huge per se but trying to convince my biking buddies to get the double so we can share add-ons has been futile and cannot commit to a 4 bike setup atm. Most people I know balk at the cost of the T2. Especially when you consider the added cost of the hitch itself if you don't already have one.
    I personally hope that 1up is not trying to stay in a small niche and can find a way to bring the costs down.

    @racerwad...
    99% of my use of my rack is with 2 people. And I usually need space for 3. Also, Do not forget that some folks need to purchase a hitch itself and will cost an extra $135-200.

    Enjoy the convenience of tray racks folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wormvine
    OK thanks for the info. I agree storing the T2 can be a pain if you haven't the space. I have a good place for mine so it's not an issue atm.
    My rack is on for 6mos of the year and stored the rest. I do like the modularity of the 1up rack for sure as I usually need a 3rd space not really a 4th. The cost increase isn't really huge per se but trying to convince my biking buddies to get the double so we can share add-ons has been futile and cannot commit to a 4 bike setup atm. Most people I know balk at the cost of the T2. Especially when you consider the added cost of the hitch itself if you don't already have one.
    I personally hope that 1up is not trying to stay in a small niche and can find a way to bring the costs down.

    @racerwad...
    99% of my use of my rack is with 2 people. And I usually need space for 3. Also, Do not forget that some folks need to purchase a hitch itself and will cost an extra $135-200.

    Enjoy the convenience of tray racks folks.
    For me, I really value the easy on/off and easy storage. I only put my rack on for when I use it and it gets taken off as soon as we are done. If I left mine on for 6 months, I might feel differently.

    I do like having as many trays as I need when I need them.


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    People keep talking about the "cost" of the 1up rack and I wonder how often they have more than one bike on their rack?
    When doing an endurance race I may take three bikes with me to have backups available. Even for XC races I may have two bikes for two different classes, including SS. But 90% of the time you are correct, one bike is all I carry.

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    I usually have more than one bike but it varies from 1-4 with 2 and 3 being most common.

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    crux and wormvine- You two need a lesson in economics. Plenty of people are buying their racks. If you don't feel that the product is worth the cost then don't buy it, that's how it works. Spend $150 less on your Yak/Thule, and then buy another one in a few years when the plastic is cracking and the bolts are all rusted.

    There isn't a single piece of plastic on the thing. I had yakima roof racks on my Jeep, and after a couple years in Oregon most of the exposed metal is rusted. The 1up is aluminum and stainless. In addition to attaching to car quickly, the bikes mount super duper fast. When I get to the lot I take my bike off and throw a leg over and I'm on the trail. When I get back in the cold rain, I don't stand there messing with wheels and straps, just throw it on the rack and I'm out before my friends have even managed to weave the strap between the spokes. Its probably half the weight of the Yakima, with the option of running one bike which is nice for me because most of the time its me and the dog. You can very easily take it off, fold it up, and stick it in the trunk so some f@cktard doesn't hit it. However, I had left mine on and someone did hit it and 1up is sending me the replacement part for free.

    In the grand scheme of money I have spent on this hobby, this rack is well worth the extra $150. I bet if I factor in the 10 minutes/trip I save using this rack... at an average engineering consulting fee I make that $150 back in less than 6 months. No question.
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    How far apart are the trays? With my T2, I like keeping them really far apart (and slightly un-centered) to avoid the handlebar-seat clash. That's why I don't like the others that have a fixed distance. I like the 1UP but raising lowering the adjustable posts (at base; not just the seat) is a pain. The trays are not at the same height- maybe that helps some?

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    The trays are also very long. You can move the bikes back and forth. There is no issue with the bikes interfering with each other.

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    When I tried one last year, it did not fit my 29er well at all- was too low down on the wheel. A little upward lifting force would let the bike release from the rack. Have they lengthened the arms or anything?

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    I don't know. You'd have to give them a call. The change would be simple.

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    Those are Kenda Nevegal 2.2 29ers in my pics. It says 2.2 but they're fatter than my Rampage 2.35. There is room to spare on each side. The bike seems pretty solid in there to me... granted I have not really yanked on it to try and break it loose. I have a hard time imagining the bike coming out of them under any reasonable transportation scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad
    People keep talking about the "cost" of the 1up rack and I wonder how often they have more than one bike on their rack? I know I have never *needed* to carry another bike since my partner doesn't ride and I usually ride alone. If my wider ever changes her mind then I'll buy an add on then. I had a roof rack and I only had a single tray on that, too. Doing the math, a complete roof setup was over $500 for a single bike setup. Doesn't seem too affordable, comparatively.

    Anyhow, I agree with the poster above that 1up USA seems to have established their niche and aren't too interested in competing directly with the big manufacturers.

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    I hardly ever transport FEWER than 3 bikes, sometimes up to 5 in my vehicle. So for me, I'm looking at $300 for the base, and then another $600 for 3 more add-ons. I'm sorry, but that's just not worth $900. Yes its slick, easy to use, no plastic, etc., but I'd rather spend the extra $$ on bike parts or gear. A T2 rack with the 2 bike add-on is almost $300 cheaper.

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    Good to know- I am looking for a third rack of this type (tray-type) and this one looks interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnlwthrn
    I hardly ever transport FEWER than 3 bikes, sometimes up to 5 in my vehicle. So for me, I'm looking at $300 for the base, and then another $600 for 3 more add-ons. I'm sorry, but that's just not worth $900. Yes its slick, easy to use, no plastic, etc., but I'd rather spend the extra $$ on bike parts or gear. A T2 rack with the 2 bike add-on is almost $300 cheaper.
    And difficult to put on and take off easily. For us, that would mean it wouldn't get used. There is no way my wife can put on the T2 for 4 bikes by herself. I believe that weighs near 80lbs.

    So, what is cheaper? The rack that that costs more that gets used all the time or the cheaper one that never gets used because of it's size and weight?

    It's not worth it to you.

    Which one would you buy if money were not an issue at all?

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    Well, that's a question I'd LOVE to have to answer. But until money is not an issue, I'll stick with my statement above.

    Like I said, it is a slick rack with lots of positives. I just don't see a 4 bike version of it being worth $900.

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    If money weren't an issue, which is the better rack?

    That doesn't mean you have to buy one. Just which do you see as better from a feature perspective?

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    To be honest, I think the 1Up rack could be awesome. However, I've not had a chance to actually use it. On the other hand, I've used the T2 rack quite a bit and feel comfortable with its design. The question of how well the 1Up rack holds the bikes is still in my mind, and probably won't be answered without actual experience with it.

    The issue of installing and removing it is probably the biggest potential problem, but I haven't had any issues with the weight of the T2.

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    I'd like to see them reduce the cost too but I'd guess that means China mfg instead of in WI.

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    Instead of starting another redundant thread I just wanted to echo the sentiments of the other 1up owners now that I've finally gotten mine.

    In a word, the rack is: amazing. Its fit and finish is lightyears ahead of my Thule roof products and the Saris and Yakima hitch racks I've seen with my two eyes. I can't compare it to the Kuat. I doubt that they are as light or well built.

    Cost is definitely an issue if you know you'll be carrying more than one (and esp painful if you need to carry four). Personally, I saved money by going with the 1up since I don't need more capacity. In the short-term, my Honda Fit has plenty of internal capacity to carry another bike or two and the riders to ride them.

    FWIW, YMMV, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80

    and finally, tray options that can be either roof top or hitch mounted



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    Do they sell a kit for that? Can not find one.

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    Mkey, parted with $299 for the first tray, will wait on their answer about the roof capable extension. That is exactly what is needed, as my R-class does not have a hitch, and I only occasionally would need a roof rack on it. Main rack will live on Odyssey.

    I like the fact that I can use it with only a single lightweight tray and quickly detach it and throw into car if not in use. Semi-permanent heavy racks did not appeal to me.

    So i would need a roof-mountable tray, and foldable tray in addition.. Pricy, but seems quite worth it.
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    Mine was the first production one. They were going to offer them on the website. I'm sure you can get it just by calling them. Now THAT's customer service in my book.

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    i think when you add in the cost of locks for the t2 arms and the hitch lock the prices are much closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoutcat
    i think when you add in the cost of locks for the t2 arms and the hitch lock the prices are much closer.
    They do not seem to be directly comparable, from what I understood. I have tried to play with T2 and other, and did not enjoy the handling and storage. Not very concerned with weight, I am sufficiently strong, but the logistics of taking it off and storing.. And I want my wife to be able to take it off - and she is not a weightlifter..

    If I get this roof mountable tray, this will more then cover the price difference. I was ready to order Yakima Highroller in addition to a hitch rack for our van. Now that i would need to bring my daughters bike in addition with mine..

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    I agree with the handling and storage aspects. I've used a Saris and Yakima hitch racks. They held the bikes fine but were more of a pain than the 1up to remove, store, and reinstall.

    I also dig the blue and red anodization on some of the components. Very NASA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Do they sell a kit for that? Can not find one.
    I have been bugging them every few months on when the roof mount version will be available, and they keep saying they are working on them. Latest update said May.

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    Really.

    I mean, I have them right now. Hmm.

    My feedback to them was to create a better rack to tray interface. The one they have nowi is fine, but it's a little fiddly to attach. It's the standard bolts with a plate around the bar kind of mount. They are pretty intent on mechanical design and perhaps they are looking at something that is easier to mount and faster. Not a huge deal either way, but would be nice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wankel
    I have been bugging them every few months on when the roof mount version will be available, and they keep saying they are working on them. Latest update said May.
    Latest update said June. Dang. Oh, fine, will do with one tray for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1up USA
    We are waiting for the long tray material to arrive so we can make the roof trays. Check back in June we should have it available then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Latest update said June. Dang. Oh, fine, will do with one tray for now.

    That, and they apparently want to jack up the price a bit on that version.. That's annoying, I have assumed it would not cost any more.

    Waiting for my base rack to arrive on Tuesday.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1up USA
    We are still working on the price so we can't accept a advanced order.

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    How much more do they want to charge?

    Presuming it's reasonable, there would be added cost. They have to drill and machine the slots in the bottom of the tray for mounting on the bars and there is the hardware kit that you need to physically mount it to the bars. Otherwise it requires the same identical hardware as for the hitch rack. So there is considerably additional changes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80
    How much more do they want to charge?

    Presuming it's reasonable, there would be added cost. They have to drill and machine the slots in the bottom of the tray for mounting on the bars and there is the hardware kit that you need to physically mount it to the bars. Otherwise it requires the same identical hardware as for the hitch rack. So there is considerably additional changes.

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    But then you do not have a folding mechanism.

    Don't know; if they jack it up it would be much less of a deal. I kinda assumed based on your story that it would be the same.

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    So what's the verdict with these and their compatibility with 29r's?
    Are bikes just as secure as they would be on a Thule T2 or Yakima?

    Any one have any issues with similar size bikes or say a road bike and mountain bike interfering with each other because of spacing?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by eman2
    So what's the verdict with these and their compatibility with 29r's?
    Are bikes just as secure as they would be on a Thule T2 or Yakima?

    Any one have any issues with similar size bikes or say a road bike and mountain bike interfering with each other because of spacing?

    Thanks
    I don't know if you are asking two separate questions about compatibility and security, but I can answer the latter. I had a Sidearm roof rack (which has the same securing mechanism as the T2) and this is far better. That isn't to say the T2 is bad, because it isn't. It's just that this one is better. There is some wiggle due rotation around the headset but it's really minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad
    To the current 1up rack owners: how well do larger (2.3-2.5) tires fit?

    Thanks!
    Ordered them to fit my Fatbike...3.7" tires. They came w/ wider spacing and an extension to fit the effective 29" wheel (fits my regular 26 and 29er's fine too)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    But then you do not have a folding mechanism.

    Don't know; if they jack it up it would be much less of a deal. I kinda assumed based on your story that it would be the same.
    The only difference between folding and non-folding is cutting the tray. That's it. They both bolt on in the same places with the same hardware. The tray for mounting on the roof then is machined more to mate up with the roof mount kit.

    I can't remember what it cost, but I bought the extra mount kit to mount the trays to the bars. Couldn't have been much because I don't recall the cost.

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    I just got one of these racks and I'm very happy with the rack itself. I had it shipped to Canada through UPS and got dinged with like a $70 UPS brokerage fee not including taxes. If your ordering from Canada I would suggest calling and asking them to ship through USPS or something other than UPS. Seemed like a pretty steep 'brokerage fee' to me. Live and learn I guess, racks great though!
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    29er FYI....I asked about the arms being 29er friendly and Cal told me they now can ship the rack with longer arms that work well with 29ers. Just have to specify it on the order form, in the comments section. The longer arms will work with the other tires sizes as well.

    I'm thinking that this is the rack I'm going with....over the Raxter and the Kuat NV.....
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    It's a great rack and Cal is extremely helpful and flexible.

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    Got my base rack. Bolted on Drawtite in the morning, with my 20month old holding tools and getting under the Odyssey with me to his mother's disquietude.

    I should say that all other tray racks are cheese, glad I researched this before following the crowd to Kuat or Thule T2. Difference of being able to just hook it up in under a minute - or fold it back and store it in a car when the bikes are off - is critical. Ability to have just one tray on is extremely convenient.

    It seems that in the long run it should be easy to maintain and repair if need arises.

    Now I am bummed a bit that I did not know about availability of longer arms - and the delay of roof top compatible item. Well, at least I have a chance to order 29r compatible roof-top compatible addition.

    As an engineer I am not sure about the main bolt that tray halves pivot around. But I guess that is good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy

    I should say that all other tray racks are cheese, glad I researched this before following the crowd to Kuat or Thule T2. Difference of being able to just hook it up in under a minute - or fold it back and store it in a car when the bikes are off - is critical. Ability to have just one tray on is extremely convenient.

    As an engineer I am not sure about the main bolt that tray halves pivot around. But I guess that is good enough.
    This definitely the response I had. After owning and using just about all the brands except Kuat I can't imagine owning anything else. The pictures on their website are absurd and even pics from other owners don't really do it justice.

    As for the bolts which the trays pivot on-and I'm not and engineer-it doesn't seem to me like they are under that much stress in normal use, right? Also, since the components are all replaceable, maybe you could "trade-in" your 26er arms for 29ers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad
    Also, since the components are all replaceable, maybe you could "trade-in" your 26er arms for 29ers?
    As my wife did not enjoy being put on 29r - even as she is 5'8" and definitely fits one - and I prefer 26 in long travel form myself - I will always have a 26r in the family, so I guess I will just get the second (and third after my daughter gets on 24" in a couple years) that is a bit more wide tires 29r compatible.

    I agree that 1up's web site is not up to the level of their product - and misses some critical information - but that is much better then the other way around.

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    Good point about the site. I also checked out the bolts for the pivots. I assume you meant they are not very aesthetically pleasing, perhaps? Just curious more than anything.

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    Couple notes..

    Weight of the base with the first tray was 24.5 lb / 11.1 kg.

    I would definitely go for slightly longer arms. On my Kona Coiler - with longish wheelbase and high volume 2.4" tires - I would not mind if arms locked up just a tad further. It will most certainly be needed with a fat tired 29r. Stock arms are fine for most MTBs - like on my TransAm with 150mm fork (and longish wheelbase) and 2.25 tires, and certainly more then enough on 100mm travel Yeti with 2.1" tires..

    Will check if I can retrofit longer arms - at least one - when ordering the second roof top compatible tray.

    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad
    Good point about the site. I also checked out the bolts for the pivots. I assume you meant they are not very aesthetically pleasing, perhaps? Just curious more than anything.
    I thought about how they are loaded and wear, but I better not speculate, as it seems to be a safe assumption that 1up folks know very well what they are doing.

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    Thanks for the information..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
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    Will check if I can retrofit longer arms - at least one - when ordering the second roof top compatible tray.
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    I look forward to seeing if that's an option. I like running nice wide tires and while the rack has never let me down, I'm all for more security.

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    I have a question about the bike stability while on the road using the 1up rack. Everyone seems to be discussing the weight and ability to quickly and easily install and remove the rack. How well does the rack support and stabilize the bikes while in transport. To me, that's the primary concern. A nice, new bike is not cheap, and $500 bones for a good rack is a small price to pay for a secure ride (not security from theft, but secure as in stable).

    My question is how well do bikes ride on the rack? And what is the mechanism that holds the bike to the rack, the pressure from the "rollers" pushed against the tire?? Any chance of the bikes coming off, assuming the rack is installed and used correctly, and no abnormal outside influence?

    Thanks for those who can provide input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlcrow
    I have a question about the bike stability while on the road using the 1up rack. Everyone seems to be discussing the weight and ability to quickly and easily install and remove the rack. How well does the rack support and stabilize the bikes while in transport. To me, that's the primary concern. A nice, new bike is not cheap, and $500 bones for a good rack is a small price to pay for a secure ride (not security from theft, but secure as in stable).
    Bike is held by the rollers on the tire. It does not look like it is going anywhere. I will be utterly surprised if it fails in any form to hold the bike in place. Glancing in the rear view mirror when riding on a local serpentine road seemed to show that everything was dead solid. There is some minor visible flex in the arms and the rack if you push and pull your bike, and I think it is a good thing to cushion the road rattle.

    It certainly feels like a better way to hold bikes that all the hanging racks that interfere and snag with cables - and if you use that bar that goes in between the stem and the seat it does not feel safe again carbon seat rails and adjustable seatpost - if you have one. Wheel do not hang and rotate, bikes do not bump against each other, etc..

    On long trips I will clip a bungee cord from one arm to another to soothe my paranoia about tire deflating. It would still probably hold fine with a deflated tire - but I also do want a slightly longer arm to push it a bit further for a long wheelbase fat tire bike..

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    How solid is the connection between rack and hitch?

    How solid is the connection made between the "expander ball" and the hitch? From the on-line description, it seems like turning the "anti-theft" Allen screw presses the ball against the inside of the hitch, so the friction between the ball an hitch is all that holds the rack on. Their claim is that there is little "pull out" strength needed, which makes sense when compared with a trailer. I understand about the shear strength of the traditional pin, but I am not really clear on how the expander ball remains solidly connected after all of the bumps and twists that inherently occur while driving a few hundred miles on even a good road. Anything that reduced the friction at this junction (ice, grease, etc.) might also cause problems.

    Other bolts that are subject to this type of vibration often have cotter pins or similar devices to prevent the bolt from rotating after it has been set. There does not seem to be anything like this on the anti-theft bolt. Even this solution would have no effect in situations where friction might be reduced.

    Have I missed something about how this expander ball works? I (and the person behind me on the freeway) would hate to see several expensive bikes and an expensive rack "go rogue", so I would like to understand how this part of the system works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CheapWhine
    How solid is the connection made between the "expander ball" and the hitch? From the on-line description, it seems like turning the "anti-theft" Allen screw presses the ball against the inside of the hitch, so the friction between the ball an hitch is all that holds the rack on. Their claim is that there is little "pull out" strength needed, which makes sense when compared with a trailer. I understand about the shear strength of the traditional pin, but I am not really clear on how the expander ball remains solidly connected after all of the bumps and twists that inherently occur while driving a few hundred miles on even a good road. Anything that reduced the friction at this junction (ice, grease, etc.) might also cause problems.

    Other bolts that are subject to this type of vibration often have cotter pins or similar devices to prevent the bolt from rotating after it has been set. There does not seem to be anything like this on the anti-theft bolt. Even this solution would have no effect in situations where friction might be reduced.

    Have I missed something about how this expander ball works? I (and the person behind me on the freeway) would hate to see several expensive bikes and an expensive rack "go rogue", so I would like to understand how this part of the system works.
    I haven't had any issues with the fitting system loosening at all. It's stupid strong. The rack has been in production for a while so I imagine that they've had other users beta test the system. In the few weeks I've had it I've probably put a few hundred loaded miles on the rack (on paved roads) and there hasn't been any loosening. I've taken the rack off once to put more reflective stickers because I'm nerdy like that. The bolt seemed as snug as the day I put it on. For the first few weeks I checked the bolt daily and there was never any variance in torque according to my racerwad torque wrench. I've called them a couple time with questions before and after purchase and they were helpful each time. I encourage you to give them a call and get it from the horse's mouth.

    I'm going to test it on a road trip from WA to PHX later this summer but this weekend I'll be going down to Central OR (~250mi one way). I'll let you know how I fare.

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    What is preventing someone from just opening the quick realeases and taking your whole bike? It does not appear that the frame is very secure from a theft standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynastar
    What is preventing someone from just opening the quick realeases and taking your whole bike? It does not appear that the frame is very secure from a theft standpoint.
    Your lock? I have a Yakima hanging rack which has three rubber straps holding the bike on, its pretty easy to remove those as well. My lock keeps it secure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynastar
    What is preventing someone from just opening the quick realeases and taking your whole bike? It does not appear that the frame is very secure from a theft standpoint.
    The only sort-of secure bike rack is the locking fork style (front wheel off). All other types that just hold the wheel...well, just holds the wheels (wheels come off..duh). A simple cable lock works for light protection.

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    As the other posters have mentioned, the obvious answer is a lock. I've had a Thule SideArm and it's locks are laughable but they are convenient. My friend's Saris doesn't have any locks, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheapWhine
    How solid is the connection made between the "expander ball" and the hitch?
    I would say - bulletproof. It ain't going anywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynastar
    What is preventing someone from just opening the quick releases and taking your whole bike? It does not appear that the frame is very secure from a theft standpoint.
    I have a cable that can be threaded through bikes and to a hitch. Enough to deter a casual thief. Against a pro - the ability to easily take the rack off, fold it and throw into car - and bikes either inside the car or in your hotel - is a much better defense then an integrated lock anyway.

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    Does the rack accept 29ers out of the box

    I tried to call 1up today but they haven't returned my call. I won a rack on ebay and I'm wondering if I need to order longer arms for my 29ers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbwallace
    I tried to call 1up today but they haven't returned my call. I won a rack on ebay and I'm wondering if I need to order longer arms for my 29ers.
    If you have large volume tires and especially a full suspension bike - with its longer wheelbase, I would think you want longer arms - I do.

    My current plan is to get the second tray - once they release the roof mountable version with longer arms and swap one arm with the first tray. One standard and one longer on each should be fine.

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    It's my understanding that it does accept 29ers out of the box. Someone here used it for theirs but having the longer arms would probably help. I'm thinking that I might do the same for my 26" since I have nice big tires.

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    Just received mine yesterday. I ordered it with the longer arms. This rack is AMAZING. So well thought-out and put together. Even the shipping boxes are well designed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumlan
    I just got one of these racks and I'm very happy with the rack itself. I had it shipped to Canada through UPS and got dinged with like a $70 UPS brokerage fee not including taxes. If your ordering from Canada I would suggest calling and asking them to ship through USPS or something other than UPS. Seemed like a pretty steep 'brokerage fee' to me. Live and learn I guess, racks great though!
    That's why I'm not buying a 1up. If a vendor insists on UPS to ship from the US to Canada, I won't be supporting them.

    That's unfortunate, since the 1ups are so well designed.

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    Did you actually call them to discuss ways to ship it?

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    The pics I posted are of my 19" frame 29er with fat Kenda Nevegal's. It's in there solid and I don't ever worry about it, however I do feel like I'm probably close to the limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbrain
    The pics I posted are of my 19" frame 29er with fat Kenda Nevegal's. It's in there solid and I don't ever worry about it, however I do feel like I'm probably close to the limit.
    Full suspension and slacker head angle with 100mm+ fork would probably add an inch or two to the wheelbase - and that's where it can be too short. Especially with some of the fatter tires..

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    Yes.

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    I just got a 1up rack the other day and used it in the 4 bike configuration for the first time today. I must be a real wuss as the flex I was seeing through the rear view mirror was giving me butterflies. Also, I noticed my rack is a little different than the ones in the picture with the Volvo. My blue locking tabs are on the same side as the slide release and the two interfere with each other when the rack is being broken down, no big deal though, I just need to remember to hold the blue locks in place while I fold the rack.

    JohnJ80,

    You appear to have had your rack for a while. Do you notice much vertical flex when driving? I see what appears to be 3 or 4 inches of vertical flex. Does the fear of catastrophic failure fade? If the rack were made of steel the flex wouldn't be nearly as unnerving as the aluminum makes me. Maybe I'm more familiar with steel than aluminum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edthesped
    ... I must be a real wuss as the flex I was seeing through the rear view mirror was giving me butterflies...
    Yup

    In all seriousness, I wouldn't worry about the flex. The rack itself isn't moving as much as it appears (both in your mind and in real life). If you were to compare the construction between the 1up and other mainstream brands, the 1up is far superior in my experience.

    Can you post pics of your rack? It sounds strange that the blue tabs are on the same side of the rack as the slide releases. Does this mean that the trays fold towards the rear of the car?

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    All racks will bounce a bit. The 1upUSA flexes a lot less than most. Try some of those single beam steel racks and they wobble considerably more (and twist more). You also need to make sure you have it mounted enough in the receiver per the directions.

    3-4" of vertical flex in a 4 bike configuration is nothing. Most racks have a lot more than that.

    If you look at the construction of the 1UpUSA rack you will see that it is a redundant design. The main bar that comes out of the receiver goes through a hole in the cross members and is then welded in place. If the weld were to fail the rack would still not fall to the ground. The bar stock that remains in both the cross members and coming out of the receiver is quite stout and much stronger than is required. It is not going to fail either (or bend).

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    OK, I was wrong about the locking tab location. They are the same as in the photos. I spoke with someone at 1up today and was told that they tested it in with 8 trays and a large person jumping on the end and it still didn't fail. He said he's never heard of one failing and said that I could take a video and send it to him to review if I wanted. I might just do that for grins.

    I guess I'll just refrain from looking in the rear view for a few trips then maybe the paranoia will fade.

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    Also, the movement in the vehicle that is causing the rack to move is also causing everything within the cabin (including you) to move. It might be exaggerated in your car; I know I have had vehicles where the rear view mirror was holding on for dear life most of the time.

    If I were you, I would make a video, using as sturdy of a camera mount as possible. Even better if the cam had some sort of optical stabilization. Then send it to 1up like they asked and see what they say. Maybe they'll have some sort of improvements thanks to your research. Then their racks will be that much better than they already are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad
    Also, the movement in the vehicle that is causing the rack to move is also causing everything within the cabin (including you) to move. It might be exaggerated in your car; I know I have had vehicles where the rear view mirror was holding on for dear life most of the time.

    If I were you, I would make a video, using as sturdy of a camera mount as possible. Even better if the cam had some sort of optical stabilization. Then send it to 1up like they asked and see what they say. Maybe they'll have some sort of improvements thanks to your research. Then their racks will be that much better than they already are.
    I'm pretty sure the rack will hold up just fine as many have been sold and unlike the Thule nothing has been written about failure.

    In all of my reading I haven't seen anything written about the flex of the unit. If it's normal and it appears to be, perspective buyers should be aware of it so they aren't as unnerved as I was on the first use. I live in hilly Western PA and the roads are terrible so the flex of the rack is amplified with every rough road and pothole I traverse. As far as I'm concerned the rack is well worth the $$ and as a fabricator myself I have a fair understanding of what it takes to make something like this and I'll gladly pay more to keep a fellow American fabricator in business.

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    Got mine yesterday and popped it on my Grand Cherokee this morning.

    First, I got the single-bike version. This rack is relatively expensive and I wasn't stoked that it took 10 days from date of order to date of delivery. If you're looking for knocks, that's all I've got.

    The rack is gorgeous. It pops into my receiver very tight and close up to the bumper, which I like. Once torqued, the rack is super-tight in the receiver; zero slop. Slapped my El Guapo in and it's literally a no-brainer. Locks in tight.

    I love the modularity of the rack. 90 percent of the time I'll just have one bike. I will buy an extension to carry a second bike when necessary. The craftsmanship on this piece of equipment is truly exceptional. It's pretty rare that you spend more $$ than you want to and are perfectly pleased with the result.

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    Still waiting on a roof mountable version. Got another promise it will be made soon.

    The main tray performs flawlessly so far. Saves a lot of time and effort.

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    Yep. Just ran mine through a 2500 mile out and back to the mountains drive with 4 bikes on it. Hit some hellacious bumps with it at 80mph. Everything was fine.

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    I just placed an order for a 3 bike edition largely based on the positive posts here and the response from 1 up. I'm very much looking forward to checking this bad boy out.

    I'm a 1 bike guy about 90% of the time but there are rare times I carry 2-3 and I figured I might as well go for it in one swoop. I love being able to configure it how ever I want for what ever I want.
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    I am certain that you will have the same positive experiences that everyone else has had. I've put thousands of miles on mine and haven't had any issues.

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    I might add, and I'd do this with any bike where tire inflation controls some of the fit on the rack, I like to put a toe clip strap around the wheel and tray on the outer most bike. Never was an issue, but if you got a flat, you'd not have to worry at all. Cal at 1UpUSA says you don't have to worry anyhow, but I do it with all the racks like this (T2, Highroller on roof, etc..) for really long trips or trips where there is a big altitude change. I'm just a paranoid guy, I guess. For short trips, not an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80
    I might add, and I'd do this with any bike where tire inflation controls some of the fit on the rack, I like to put a toe clip strap around the wheel and tray on the outer most bike. Never was an issue, but if you got a flat, you'd not have to worry at all. Cal at 1UpUSA says you don't have to worry anyhow, but I do it with all the racks like this (T2, Highroller on roof, etc..) for really long trips or trips where there is a big altitude change. I'm just a paranoid guy, I guess. For short trips, not an issue.

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    On a recent long trip I have clipped one arm into another with a bungee cord, passing it around bike's top tube. For that nice fuzzy feeling. I doubt it made any actual difference in security - but I have a bowl of various bungee cords in my garage - got to use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80
    I might add, and I'd do this with any bike where tire inflation controls some of the fit on the rack, I like to put a toe clip strap around the wheel and tray on the outer most bike. Never was an issue, but if you got a flat, you'd not have to worry at all. Cal at 1UpUSA says you don't have to worry anyhow, but I do it with all the racks like this (T2, Highroller on roof, etc..) for really long trips or trips where there is a big altitude change. I'm just a paranoid guy, I guess. For short trips, not an issue.

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    Huh. I have never even thought of this contingency though I have used a small diameter cable as a tether in case of massive failure with new-to-me racks. I don't use it any more. When I have varying tire pressures (eg-hardpack one day and Duthie the next) I just adjust the pressure the arms put on the tires. I double check everything by pulling up on the saddle and stem. Usually, I am able to unload the rear suspension of my Fit so I haven't been concerned about the ability of the rack to retain my bike.

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    oh, for sure. I'm just paranoid and overthink this stuff. Part of the reason is that when we go, the truck is so full of stuff you can barely see the bikes in the back. So, this way I just don't think about it anymore. It's a super easy fix and takes no time.

    I have to tell you, the bikes were just solid on the rack all the way from the midwest to the mountains (1100 miles one way) at 80+mph. We hit a monster bump at really high speed (way too fast) on I-76 on the outskirts of Denver where there is road construction and a big bump between new and old pavement. Everything was fine.

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    I hope it didn't seem like I was dogging the toe clip strap idea...It is a good one and if you have no visibility, it's worth the piece of mind. Sometimes on the webz it's hard to remember that there are individual situations that dictate different choices. Anyhoo, I just got back from a ride that had 20ish miles on FS roads with plenty of potholes and washboard. No loss in bike retention tension (?) but I did hit a hole fast enough to flex the bike enough to get the handlebars to tap the rear window on my car. FWIW, it's a Fit and the bike has wide Azonic Strip bars. I should probably slow down, too.

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    Oh, no worries. Like I said, I'm just paranoid.

    Like the other hitch racks I've had, when you cantilever out all that weight on the end of a lever arm, you are going to get a bounce in the rack - there is just no way around it.

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    Getting mine Monday

    Can't wait to get mine. Picking mine up in Buffalo at our forwarding company during a family shopping trip.
    I have no worries whatsoever after reading all the user reports here.
    As to cost, not so much different than Kuat or Thule, at least up here in Canada that is.

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    Mine's been ordered for 8 days...I hope to get my 3 tray some day. I noticed 1Up likes to get paid since my card was charged 8 days ago, but they like to take their time to ship anything.

    I'm not overwhelmed by the service, I hope the rack lives up to it's billing.
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    Mine was just under 2 weeks from time of order til Monday's UPS confirmation.
    Apparently they were waiting in on some parts. Hopefully yours were waiting in on the same ones as mine.
    If you haven't heard back give them a shout, which is what I ended up doing.

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    Great reviews

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80
    Yep. Just ran mine through a 2500 mile out and back to the mountains drive with 4 bikes on it. Hit some hellacious bumps with it at 80mph. Everything was fine.

    J.
    When you add additional trays do you tighten the nuts or just the cap screws? One nut is relatively easy to tighten but the other can only be turned 1/4 turn at a time.

    Also, I had the opportunity to follow the wife while she had it set up with 2 bikes and the rack was rock steady going down the road. It looks really sweet going down the road too.

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    I just happened to hit the 1Up website and see the announcement that they are out of stock on everything until August 9th.

    I know they are small but why charge someone when they know they can't deliver it? If they did take your money, then why not tell you they can't deliver? Their service is about as bad as it gets, pretty close to the point where I don't do business with them. Real close.

    It might be a great bike rack but there are others too....
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    To mount an extra tray, there are two coarse thread theft proof bolts you turn. You can turn them 1/2-3/4 turn at a time. Because they are coarse thread, you only have to make a couple of turns. Adding an extra tray, literally, can be done in well less than a minute.

    @ocho - I'd give them a call. I've found their customer service to be nothing but top notch. Yes, they are a small company, but they follow through well.

    J.

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    I agree with your complaints. Were you advised of the delay when you ordered? I have had good experiences with them, both with their product and their service, but if I were you, I wouldn't hesitate to tell them how you feel.

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    No, I wasn't advised and there wasn't a disclaimer on the web page saying they were out of stock. I actually went to the web page to look at something else and saw the disclaimer. That was a bummer.

    Yeah, when I get some time I'll try and call...searching for some tires too...
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