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    Quote Originally Posted by canker View Post
    Well I do remember reading on here probably in the huge thread about a guy with a defective one that kept coming loose and another guy that had his come loose after driving at higher speeds on a very bumpy gravel road for a long time. I just have mine chained to the hitch because I'm paranoid.
    That's a great solution both for security/ theft (we've been having lots of racks getting stolen off of cars in Colorado lately [wtf?]) as well as peace of mind (the velcro strap solution is just stupid).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyride1 View Post
    Yup, The first claim was definitely fake. Many have called him out on it, myself included, and he never responded. I've done tests with mine and it never moved after driving hundreds of miles with 2 bikes on. What I do is once the rack is in the receiver and tightened up I wrap the exposed shaft with duct tape leaving no gap between the tape and the end of the receiver. This way if I see a gap between them then I know it has shifted. After thousands of miles in over years it hasn't moved an inch. So when I put the rack back on the hitch I use the tape as a guide to know what to stop inserting.
    Your duct tape approach is a clever test. I have mine marked with a sharpie at minimum insertion point. I may try a variation of your test, either marker or something firm like a bungy that may be easier to remove than duct tape.


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    Quote Originally Posted by frank daleview View Post
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    This is my easy access handle. It really is very nice rack but it could use a little updating.
    This. This is awesome. I got my rack about a month ago and have four trays on it much of the time. I love everything about it except I think the velcro solution and the release lever are significant weaknesses in design (both that could probably be easily remedied by the company with a little time and engineering). With four trays, the thing is nearly impossible to operate (raise/ lower) with one person (and forget about lowering it with bikes on it).

    I've been thinking about doing something like this, but using shifter or brake cable and housing or something like that. If I ever get around to the project, I'll post here.

    How well does this work for you? I haven't had time to search all 64 pages of this forum- are there other solutions like this?

    Thanks!
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    Just ordered my add on rack for when friends want to tag along, or I want to take the DJ bike with me. Just FYI, it appears their shipping rates have come down some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HPIguy View Post
    Just ordered my add on rack for when friends want to tag along, or I want to take the DJ bike with me. Just FYI, it appears their shipping rates have come down some.
    Just did exactly the same. There's always that 3rd guy! $9 shipping is fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    I'm not sure either. Mine says on the Jeep almost all year, never loosened up on its own. I wonder if the people that have loosening issues don't give it a lift as they are tightening initially.
    I just pulled my rack off to install a 2nd fatbike spacer. I found that the 1.25" to 2" spacer was slightly loose and took half a turn to tighten back down. That probably didn't help in my case.
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    Rack security

    Here's what I use to secure the rack. It serves 2 purposes: keeps from getting it stolen and from sliding out of the hitch. Notice on the shaft going in to the receiver hitch there's a piece of duct tape on it? I use it for 2 reason:It tells me when to stop inserting when I'm putting it on and I use it to see if the rack has slipped out of its original position. So far I haven't noticed any movement from all the times I've installed, uninstalled, and carried bikes for the last 3+ years I've had the rack and many hundreds of miles of travel with bikes in the rack. 1up Quick Rack Quick Review.-20170204_131025.jpg
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    I know it is 2.5 years later, but i found this thread and am having the same issue. The ball isn't fully retracting and it's a bi@$h to get off. Anyone have this problem and found a remedy? I can tell that the ball is past the parallel line of the edge where it sticks out and when i insert it it starts to stick once the ball enters. Anyway, hope someone can help. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blair@blairam.com View Post
    I know it is 2.5 years later, but i found this thread and am having the same issue. The ball isn't fully retracting and it's a bi@$h to get off. Anyone have this problem and found a remedy? I can tell that the ball is past the parallel line of the edge where it sticks out and when i insert it it starts to stick once the ball enters. Anyway, hope someone can help. Thanks.
    I'm trying to understand your situation. Are you saying the ball will not return/drop back into the rack when you turn the key counter clockwise to release it? Thus you cannot get the rack out of the receiver? If this is your case, this happen to me several times. The rack seems to be welded into the receiver and will not come out.

    (Sidebar: Which is why I find it hard to believe the rack came out of the receiver when driving for some folks, anyways...)

    I have the two bike rack. What I have had to do is grab onto the rack and rock that sucker up and down with force. Rocking it to the point the SUV rear tires are about to come off the ground and it is very tiring! Sometimes it takes a few tries and it snaps and I can pull it out. That has been a pain in the neck! Here is what I did and it has worked so far.

    I was going to pick up a wood shim from Lowes or Home Depot and put that into the receiver and then put the rack in.

    Why? Well, the ball is coming too far out and when it does, it won't retract. I even sprayed some silicon inside the rack and greased the ball, but nothing it still gets stuck when the ball comes all the way out. I tried this when the rack is out of the truck. However, I never went to Lowes but found a piece of stiff cardboard instead and cut it to fit the receiver. I put the cardboard into the receiver, only about 3 inches and it sticks out about 3 inches.

    Then I put the rack into the receiver. Insert the key and turn clockwise to tighten as tight as possible and it is solid as usual! I can pull on it up and down and it is solid. Took the key and turned it counter clockwise to loosen it up. It worked, the ball dropped and the rack came out! The cardboard prevents the ball from coming all the way out to the point of no retraction.

    I called 1UP USA and they told me some of the newer aftermarket receivers have too much play in them. They said all it takes is like a quarter inch of play. This is my case, I have an aftermarket receiver and it has a little less than a quarter inch of play when the rack is in. Well the cardboard or a wood shim stops that because it takes away that play and the ball cannot go that far; yet, it goes far enough and tight enough that you don't have to worry about it coming loose. Not to mention, it comes out so easy!

    I did this cardboard trick and went on a 200mi road trip and checked the rack periodically and it was solid and tight! Let me be clear, 1UP did not tell me to insert cardboard or a shim, I came up with that after greasing the ball didn't work to drop it. It is at your own risk, but I don't think there is a risk because that sucker is in there tight! But comes out so simple.

    Sorry this is so long, but I hope it helps you out.

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    So this is a good point, and related to hitches. I bought an aftermarket hitch for my Wrangler. It sucked. The receiver hole was too big and the fit was sloppy too (where it bolts on to the frame rails. I would have had to use thick washers to make it fit without bending the metal. I bought a takeoff hitch from a guy who bought a bumper with an integrated hitch. It was perfect. So if possible, get an OEM hitch made to certain specific specs by one of the major hitch makers. I think Hidden Hitch is pretty decent but Reese gets worse reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. 14 View Post
    I'm trying to understand your situation. Are you saying the ball will not return/drop back into the rack when you turn the key counter clockwise to release it? Thus you cannot get the rack out of the receiver? If this is your case, this happen to me several times. The rack seems to be welded into the receiver and will not come out.

    (Sidebar: Which is why I find it hard to believe the rack came out of the receiver when driving for some folks, anyways...)

    I have the two bike rack. What I have had to do is grab onto the rack and rock that sucker up and down with force. Rocking it to the point the SUV rear tires are about to come off the ground and it is very tiring! Sometimes it takes a few tries and it snaps and I can pull it out. That has been a pain in the neck! Here is what I did and it has worked so far.

    I was going to pick up a wood shim from Lowes or Home Depot and put that into the receiver and then put the rack in.

    Why? Well, the ball is coming too far out and when it does, it won't retract. I even sprayed some silicon inside the rack and greased the ball, but nothing it still gets stuck when the ball comes all the way out. I tried this when the rack is out of the truck. However, I never went to Lowes but found a piece of stiff cardboard instead and cut it to fit the receiver. I put the cardboard into the receiver, only about 3 inches and it sticks out about 3 inches.

    Then I put the rack into the receiver. Insert the key and turn clockwise to tighten as tight as possible and it is solid as usual! I can pull on it up and down and it is solid. Took the key and turned it counter clockwise to loosen it up. It worked, the ball dropped and the rack came out! The cardboard prevents the ball from coming all the way out to the point of no retraction.

    I called 1UP USA and they told me some of the newer aftermarket receivers have too much play in them. They said all it takes is like a quarter inch of play. This is my case, I have an aftermarket receiver and it has a little less than a quarter inch of play when the rack is in. Well the cardboard or a wood shim stops that because it takes away that play and the ball cannot go that far; yet, it goes far enough and tight enough that you don't have to worry about it coming loose. Not to mention, it comes out so easy!

    I did this cardboard trick and went on a 200mi road trip and checked the rack periodically and it was solid and tight! Let me be clear, 1UP did not tell me to insert cardboard or a shim, I came up with that after greasing the ball didn't work to drop it. It is at your own risk, but I don't think there is a risk because that sucker is in there tight! But comes out so simple.

    Sorry this is so long, but I hope it helps you out.
    Yes, this is exactly what happened. I have to shake the hell out of my car and wiggle and shake to get it out. Tiring and hurts my back. Plus i'm afraid it will just come flying out and with the 4 rack that wouldn't be pretty. I appreciate your ingenuity, but I'm always nervous enough that the thing is going to work it's way out, i don't think i could handle the added stress of an additional piece wedged in the receiver. Hopefully 1up will replace it or repair it. Someone else said that because i tightened i so much there is a brass wedge that pushes the ball out that can get a notch in it, therefore not allowing it to slide out and retract. He pulled the ball bearing out and filed the brass wedge which solved it. Though i would thing that once the ball bearing is pulled out it could pop out more easily in the future? I'll keep you posted to see if 1up has a solution. I really do love the rack, but for the amount we paid, it should work. it's not like it was operator error. I mean, should i not tighten the ballbearing that tight? seems counterintuitive to securing the rack to me. Thanks for your reply!

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    I was in this situation before when I first bought the rack. I paid a premium as well as I purchased the black two bike rack. I think it was like $650 or something. Anyway, same thing, I could not get it out. I had to take my SUV to Toyota and the shop guys used something to pry it out.

    I sent it back to 1UP and they sent me another one, they didn't charge me shipping or anything, great CS. Well as I took it out one day the ball fell out. I called 1UP again and they said put the ball back in then take a hammer and hammer the metal edges. Problem solved.

    As far as filing the rod that pushes the ball out because it develops a notch, I think that is BS. When I called 1UP, they never said anything about that. They did tell me to turn the allen tool clockwise as tight as can be tightened, they said you want that ball to push against the receiver tight so the rack will not come out. So, if they want you to do that it but was counterintuitive because the rod develops a notch then they have a flawed product. So I think that is nonsense. If the ball comes out, just put it back in and hammer the sides of the rack that hold the ball in. The ball has never fallen out of mine again after 1Up told me to do that.

    You don't have to hammer it crazy hard either, just a couple medium taps on each side and you're done.

    You're problem may be your receiver, it maybe too loose and it doesn't take much like I said, just quarter inch will do it. Try the cardboard or a metal wedge. What you are trying to do is take that play out of the receiver so the rack comes out when you want it to. I'm telling you it works and it will not fall out of the vehicle going down the road.

    But call 1UP and tell them what you have happening. Tell them suggestions made on this forum. I'd be interested in their response. I know they will point to your receiver hitch. By the way, is your receiver hitch after market or OEM?

    Yes, it does hurt the back to move that sucker up and down to "pop" that thing out. That is coming from a former bodybuilder who is about 220lbs and carries quite a bit of muscle. I find it tiring and a pain in the neck!

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    I pulled the pin out and it did have a small notch where the ball pressed against it, but like you said, I imagine that is common. The part that was surprising was that the pin was cracked and the end.

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    Check out what else a 1up can carry!
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    ^^lmao!

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    As tight as that is, I fear it will slowly saw through the aluminum over time with vibration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HPIguy View Post
    As tight as that is, I fear it will slowly saw through the aluminum over time with vibration.
    That's good thinking- and I'll probably put some clear protective tape on the underside of that aluminum bar for prudence's sake (and it will also serve as a nice indicator to check it periodically), however, it's not tight at all. It looks taught in the pictures, but there's enough slack that I can remove it by hand without sliding the rack in. You'll notice there's no kinking in the cable around the square.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPIguy View Post
    As tight as that is, I fear it will slowly saw through the aluminum over time with vibration.
    Could happen but probably not in your lifetime.

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    Understood, but as expensive as these racks are, I wouldn't take the risk. I'd have vinyl coated the cable personally as others in the thread have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HPIguy View Post
    Understood, but as expensive as these racks are, I wouldn't take the risk. I'd have vinyl coated the cable personally as others in the thread have done.
    You're worried about the rack failing because of the cable cutting into the aluminum of the rack or for just cosmetic reasons?

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    Just wear and tear in general. It will dig into the rack over time, no different than cable housings digging into your frame if you don't protect it. I work hard for my stuff, as I'm sure most do. For that reason, I like to take care of my things. And, there's no reason not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HPIguy View Post
    Understood, but as expensive as these racks are, I wouldn't take the risk. I'd have vinyl coated the cable personally as others in the thread have done.
    Also a great idea. I'll do that on the next iteration. I starting going through the pages of this thread when I was thinking about the idea, but it took less time to get to Home Depot, get the parts and install than the hours and hours it would take to pour through these pages.

    Is there anyone who has put together an extension handle other than the guy on the last page with the wood handle? That's going to be my next improvement to tackle at some point.
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    None of the credit goes to me, it's all in this thread. Nice work on the cable either way, need to fab up one myself at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcpunk View Post
    I tried that...not much luck. So I cobbed together this little setup. Actually works pretty well. The issue isn't really that it sticks, but that it is hard to pull the bar evenly. I also have 2 smaller loops I can attach to the cord for when I run 3 or 4 trays, I just thread them through the final hole in the last rack and attach the handle to hold it there. Honestly, with 2 racks it it only a minor improvement. When you have 4 racks on there, it is invaluable. ( to me ).

    Basic idea:

    • Cut a section of 1" pipe just shorter than the bar
    • Cut that section of pipe in half length ways. We need something to keep the cord out at the ends of the bar.
    • Drill two small holes in the ends of the "half-pipe".
    • Knot some cord through the pipe and attach to bar. ( zip ties keep it in place. i just used some random paracord i had lying around. you can probably find something better? )
    • Put loose end of cord through something to make a handle. (Again, I had an old yakima attachment nut lying around )


    The paracord isn't the best. A bit stretchy. Some thin cable might be ideal? Or high quality cord that doesn't stretch. ( dyneema etc ) I wasn't going to go out and actually buy something...too cheap for that

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    Stoked on this solution. I'm planning on doing something with brake cables/ housing (was thinking of using something like the old Odyssey Gyro brake adapters that go from one cable to two), but haven't figured it all out yet. Any changes/ improvements in your design? What works well, what doesn't? Thanks!
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    I would recommend grabbing some old brake or shifter cable housing and thread the cable you're using in it to use the housing to protect the cable from cutting up the aluminum rack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    Stoked on this solution. I'm planning on doing something with brake cables/ housing (was thinking of using something like the old Odyssey Gyro brake adapters that go from one cable to two), but haven't figured it all out yet. Any changes/ improvements in your design? What works well, what doesn't? Thanks!
    It worked ok, I was happy with it. I put it together quickly with the things I had on hand, vs. engineering something clever. One of my requirements was that it was easy to change when I added extra racks. ( I usually keep 2 on and then add numbers 3/4 as required ).

    With only 2, you hardly need it anyway.

    But I did it in the fall ... and don't use the rack in the winter much. It's ski season after all I guess the long term review won't be in till the end of next summer.

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    Thanks! Yeah- I've been thinking on this for months already and it's not likely going to happen for a good while. I also typically keep 2 on, then add 3 & 4, so have been thinking of possibly using cable couplers (like used on bikes with S&S couplers) to be able to have it adapt between the sizes. The problem is, my ideas far outpace my skills/ ability/ time for implementation.
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    1up Quick Rack Quick Review.

    So I'm in a bit of a predicament. Trading in my truck Tuesday and need to remove the rack, but it's stuck. Really stuck. I believe the ball is not retracting into the tongue of the rack. The fastening bolt is removed, I removed the red cap from the channel in the rear of rack. I've tapped the brass wedge bolt backwards so the ball has room to retract but the ball just won't move. I've sledgehammered this thing every which way possible but nothing is getting that ball to drop. Any suggestions?

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    That hitch looks pretty rusty, are you sure the ball is not retracting vs rust from the hitch holding it in?
    How long has it been in there without being taken off?

    I'd give it a good soaking of Kroil, PB blaster, or liquid wrench everywhere you can spray it in, and let it sit a day, then try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    That hitch looks pretty rusty, are you sure the ball is not retracting vs rust from the hitch holding it in?
    How long has it been in there without being taken off?

    I'd give it a good soaking of Kroil, PB blaster, or liquid wrench everywhere you can spray it in, and let it sit a day, then try again.
    I can't be sure, but I do agree I think the rust is a major factor. Guess I'm going to try some rust removal options now.

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    Kroil... Pain to find but works best.

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