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    My Forester is an '11. I think I paid less than the current price for it:

    Amazon.com: Curt Manufacturing 13147 Class III Receiver: Automotive

    ETA: According to Curt, the one above won't fit your '01 Forester. They only have Class II hitches for the '01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Here's 4 bikes on the rack that was sold to handle 4 then and 3 now. This is in a 2" receiver.
    And judging by my add on tray - they have also beefed up the add on. I would guess for stiffness, not so much for ultimate strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campisi View Post
    My Forester is an '11. I think I paid less than the current price for it:

    Amazon.com: Curt Manufacturing 13147 Class III Receiver: Automotive

    ETA: According to Curt, the one above won't fit your '01 Forester. They only have Class II hitches for the '01.
    I know that it won't. A while back I had found one bolt on hitch for my car that was a 2" receiver but was still rated class II. I don't care about the towing capacity or the class of the hitch. The most I will ever use it for is 2 bikes on a rack as I already have a roof rack on my car. I am going for the low cost shuttle and road trip car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish0281 View Post

    Also, it's disconcerting that there isn't a hitch pin - there's a reason everything on your car is bolted together and even then stuff comes undone. That eliminates 1up as an option for me.
    I too was of that logic last season when I was looking at racks (always thinking the worst lol). But I am glad I bought the 1up 2 bike combo last year. I just couldn't stomach paying a little less or even the same in some instances for the Thule/Yakima/Kuat steel garbage offerings at the time. Mine still looks new, operates flawlessly, and never had a problem with mine. And always get numerous comments/questions at the trail head parking lot about it.

    But to make me sleep better at night, I have a Kryptonite mini U-lock going thru the rack and the hitch metal loop, so even if the locking bolt ever fails, the rack isn't going to slide out anywhere, there's basically less than an inch of leeway with this, and still safely inserted in my hitch.

    And disregard the red strap, no longer in use.

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    Color?

    I'm thinking about ordering one of these racks soon, single quick rack, but can't decide between silver or black. I know the black is $50 more and I do like the looks of it, but how does the color hold up over time? It would seem like the various moving parts on the rack might cause the finish to wear off. The rack won't be sitting out in weather much as I'll it off after each ride. For what it's worth this is for a white Toyota Tacoma with factory tow hitch.

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    Black looks swank....

    Quote Originally Posted by MondoRock View Post
    I'm thinking about ordering one of these racks soon, single quick rack, but can't decide between silver or black. I know the black is $50 more and I do like the looks of it, but how does the color hold up over time? It would seem like the various moving parts on the rack might cause the finish to wear off. The rack won't be sitting out in weather much as I'll it off after each ride. For what it's worth this is for a white Toyota Tacoma with factory tow hitch.

    .. but silver hides the scratches and what will be the tire wear spots. I'm not sure how deep the anodizing goes (varies by mfgr) but it's usually only a couple microns thick.

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    Hey guys, after browsing this thread, I'm pretty much convinced that I'll be getting this rack. My only concern is, how about legibility/visibility of the license plate while on the tray up (no bikes on) position? I drive a Honda Element and found some pics online that with the 2 bike rack (the one that I want) it looks like it blocks the view. I understand that this probably will be the same with any rack/Honda Element scenario. So, is not so much about the rack itself, but since I'm pretty sure I'll get this one, I'll just ask here. Has anybody with obstructed view of the plate had any "encounters" with law enforcement. BTW, I'm in Texas, did some research, but couldn't find anything other than messing with the license plate itself. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpeque View Post
    Hey guys, after browsing this thread, I'm pretty much convinced that I'll be getting this rack. My only concern is, how about legibility/visibility of the license plate while on the tray up (no bikes on) position? I drive a Honda Element and found some pics online that with the 2 bike rack (the one that I want) it looks like it blocks the view. I understand that this probably will be the same with any rack/Honda Element scenario. So, is not so much about the rack itself, but since I'm pretty sure I'll get this one, I'll just ask here. Has anybody with obstructed view of the plate had any "encounters" with law enforcement. BTW, I'm in Texas, did some research, but couldn't find anything other than messing with the license plate itself. Thanks!
    Nope.

    Here people even often don't put on a front plate on their car because of looks and there aren't any problems.

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    I've tried 2 or 3 hitch racks on my Honda Element and thus far I haven't been able to find one that is low enough to clear my tailgate when it's down (and the rack has no bikes on it).

    Anyone running one of these on a Honda Element and can confirm?

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    Hey Acadian,

    While doing my research I found two. I can't link yet, but here they are.

    If you Google: Honda element 1up usa - you'll find one on the Element owners club.

    If you Google: Kuat NV - you'll see the review from Cracks and Racks, were they used a Honda Element for their test.

    Hope it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    .. but silver hides the scratches and what will be the tire wear spots. I'm not sure how deep the anodizing goes (varies by mfgr) but it's usually only a couple microns thick.
    Thanks for your input! Decided to place an order for Silver. Maybe I'll get lucky and have it by the weekend.

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    BOOOOYA!!!!! Such an awesome rack

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    Just wanted to say how pleased I am with how quick I received my rack. I placed an order online Monday evening and it was shipped the next day along with tracking info by email, and I received the shipment today (Friday). Awesome. About to open the box and check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian View Post
    I've tried 2 or 3 hitch racks on my Honda Element and thus far I haven't been able to find one that is low enough to clear my tailgate when it's down (and the rack has no bikes on it).

    Anyone running one of these on a Honda Element and can confirm?
    It does work just fine. You do have to tilt the rack down but it clears with no problem that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian View Post
    I've tried 2 or 3 hitch racks on my Honda Element and thus far I haven't been able to find one that is low enough to clear my tailgate when it's down (and the rack has no bikes on it).

    Anyone running one of these on a Honda Element and can confirm?
    If you find your way up to Oakland, you're welcome to try mine out.

    Hey, on second thought. IIRC you can just buy one, and for whatever weird reason you don't like it, I think they'll pay for shipping back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    If you find your way up to Oakland, you're welcome to try mine out.

    Hey, on second thought. IIRC you can just buy one, and for whatever weird reason you don't like it, I think they'll pay for shipping back.
    I just saw that Mike Solis has one on his Element - will ask him once he's back from Boggs

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    Do you worry about flats?

    I've had my 1up USA quik-rack double for about a year now, and love it. I'm about to order 2 more single add-ons, now that the kids are using full size bikes.
    Do any of you worry about losing tire pressure when the bike is in the rack? I know, it seems unlikely, but the problem is that the consequences are quite dire. Maybe a slow leak after a ride, or a blow out... I think about it a bit more now, since I run tubeless, and just had a Rocket Ron blow off (ripped bead) while coasting on the road. If that ever happened while transporting in the rack, I'm afraid my bike would be all over the road.
    Anyone else worry about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgrieve View Post
    I've had my 1up USA quik-rack double for about a year now, and love it. I'm about to order 2 more single add-ons, now that the kids are using full size bikes.
    Do any of you worry about losing tire pressure when the bike is in the rack? I know, it seems unlikely, but the problem is that the consequences are quite dire. Maybe a slow leak after a ride, or a blow out... I think about it a bit more now, since I run tubeless, and just had a Rocket Ron blow off (ripped bead) while coasting on the road. If that ever happened while transporting in the rack, I'm afraid my bike would be all over the road.
    Anyone else worry about that?
    It happened once to me and the bike was fine. I wouldn't worry about it.

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    After a recent ride one of the red handles on my 1up rack was so loose it was almost falling off. Both of the two bolts holding it on were extremely loose, and had I driven a few more miles it probably would have fallen off completely. I added some blue Loctite and hopefully that will hold, but when I get a chance I need to check all the bolts on it. Frustratingly, they seem to be standard (not metric), so I can't effectively use my milti-tool to work on it. I don't think I even own a set of non-metric allen wrenches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m85476585 View Post
    ...Frustratingly, they seem to be standard (not metric), so I can't effectively use my milti-tool to work on it. I don't think I even own a set of non-metric allen wrenches.
    I had the same frustration! This is one of my few gripes because I've also had some nuts/bolts loosen up over time and I'm in the habit of checking them every so often. This usually means a run to Harbor Freight for a set of cheapo standard allens. Lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgrieve View Post
    I've had my 1up USA quik-rack double for about a year now, and love it. I'm about to order 2 more single add-ons, now that the kids are using full size bikes.
    Do any of you worry about losing tire pressure when the bike is in the rack? I know, it seems unlikely, but the problem is that the consequences are quite dire. Maybe a slow leak after a ride, or a blow out... I think about it a bit more now, since I run tubeless, and just had a Rocket Ron blow off (ripped bead) while coasting on the road. If that ever happened while transporting in the rack, I'm afraid my bike would be all over the road.
    Anyone else worry about that?
    Put the bike on the rack, tighten it down, and then deflate the tire (or tires) and see what happens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgrieve View Post
    I've had my 1up USA quik-rack double for about a year now, and love it. I'm about to order 2 more single add-ons, now that the kids are using full size bikes.
    Do any of you worry about losing tire pressure when the bike is in the rack? I know, it seems unlikely, but the problem is that the consequences are quite dire. Maybe a slow leak after a ride, or a blow out... I think about it a bit more now, since I run tubeless, and just had a Rocket Ron blow off (ripped bead) while coasting on the road. If that ever happened while transporting in the rack, I'm afraid my bike would be all over the road.
    Anyone else worry about that?
    I have the same concern, running tubeless also, I did see a picture somewhere, the guy actually put some hitch pins in the adjustable mount holes on the rack arms between the spokes...if the tires were to deflate, at least the bike would stay on the rack, not a bad idea, maybe just some bolts with nylon locking nuts or some type of strap...maybe someone has had a better idea...please share. Thanks

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    I wrap one of these around the back tire and the arm holding it down - kind of a "remove before flight" flag. It reminds me to tighten down the arms, shows me I did tighten down the arms if I get paranoid while driving, and if a tire deflates or bolt works loose it will keep the bike secure.

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    You guys are WAY over thinking this too much.. If your tires are going to be that flat , i am pretty positive you will notice it BEFORE it goes on the rack .

    First of all you should always check your bike before and after every ride anyways.

    Also, its not very hard to check the rack for any loose bolts or nuts , its pretty simple .

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    I'm having a hard time seeing the over-thinking here.

    While you are checking over your bike, ensuring there are no slow leaks in the tires (how do you do that, bring a tub of water with you, only ride near creeks, maybe only go on short trips?), checking all the bolts on the rack, and making sure you don't make a mistake tightening down your bike, it takes me 1 second to put the twisty on and I'm ready to go.

    Over-thinking or a time saving convenience - I'm going with the latter

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    I can't speak for aedubber, but to me it's the profound paranoia the seems to pervade this thread that I would characterize as over-thinking. People are worrying too much. Besides, it isn't like that twist tie is actually going to hold anything on in a moment of catastrophic failure. But, if it helps someone feel better, then it's a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad View Post
    I can't speak for aedubber, but to me it's the profound paranoia the seems to pervade this thread that I would characterize as over-thinking. People are worrying too much. Besides, it isn't like that twist tie is actually going to hold anything on in a moment of catastrophic failure. But, if it helps someone feel better, then it's a good thing.
    Don't underestimate the twist ties.

    Or, better yet, zip ties. That stuff is heavy duty.

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    Ride where you want man ... I ride down ski resorts . Maybe you should consider something like this , never got to worry about a single thing !


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    Even if the tires go flat, the bike may be lose in the rack, but it's not going to come out.

    I did hit a major buckle in the pavement once at 80mph on a 2000 mile road trip with 4 bikes on the back (car probably was a few inches airborne) and a full load in the car. One wheel on the outermost bike did just out of the track but it could not get out of the arms. What I do now, just because I"m paranoid, is put a toe clip strap through one of the wheels and around the tray. There is now no way that the outermost bike can come out under almost any conditions and it's going to be damn near impossible for any of the inboard bikes to go anywhere.

    Needless to say, after hitting that buckle at high speed, which had to be way, way out of spec for the rack, and having no problems; I can't imagine that this is anything worth worrying about. Especially for short trips on familiar roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Even if the tires go flat, the bike may be lose in the rack, but it's not going to come out.

    I did hit a major buckle in the pavement once at 80mph on a 2000 mile road trip with 4 bikes on the back (car probably was a few inches airborne) and a full load in the car. One wheel on the outermost bike did just out of the track but it could not get out of the arms. What I do now, just because I"m paranoid, is put a toe clip strap through one of the wheels and around the tray. There is now no way that the outermost bike can come out under almost any conditions and it's going to be damn near impossible for any of the inboard bikes to go anywhere.

    Needless to say, after hitting that buckle at high speed, which had to be way, way out of spec for the rack, and having no problems; I can't imagine that this is anything worth worrying about. Especially for short trips on familiar roads.

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    Holy carp! What kind of vehicle do you have that 4-bike rack hitched to? I'm surprised the hitch itself didn't bend or the car's unibody where the hitch mounts didn't suffer some serious bendage (if it was a car - if a truck no problem). I've heard of class II hitches getting bent from 4-bike racks bouncing around on Forest Service roads.

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    My other rack is a 4 bike Hollywood rack and after a 2000 mile, all on highway, road trip with 4 bikes I noticed the metal that goes into the hitch (not sure if there is a proper term for it) was deformed to the point that the rack leans slightly back. It's 2" steel square tubing with 1/4" thick walls, and it is visibly deformed now (looks like someone took the square cross section and squeezed it to a slight rectangle shape at the end). I was in the vehicle the whole time and there were some moderate bumps (all on highway), but nothing that made the vehicle airborne (though I have been airborne in it, and the traction control system doesn't like that). The hitch is fine, of course, because it's a truck, and the rack is still 100% useable.

    On my car (which has the 1up rack), the bolt on hitch is mainly supported by the tow hook, which should be strong enough to take at least the weight of the car. There are also two points where it bolts to the frame, but I haven't looked at how sturdy the frame looks there. If I do hit a bump, because of the leverage of the rack off the back most of the weight goes on the tow hook, and the force on the frame from the rack is almost all upward force. I think I'd be more worried about bending the hitch than the frame.
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    To be sure - I've never heard of the frame bending, just the hitch. But, when I installed the hitch on my Forester I noticed that the "frame" metal that it bolts to is little more than some thin sheetmetal. Matter of fact, to install it you had to 'oblong' out two holes in the frame to get the hardware in. I started to do it with a round file until I realized how skimpy that metal was. I stopped and removed the bumper and put the h/w in from the back of the frame rails so I wouldn't have to round out those holes. Much, much less than the frame of my last vehicle (99 Dodge Ram 4X4 truck). The max tongue weight spec'd by Subaru is 200lbs but that is for a trailer and I bet 200lbs on a trailer with an axle acts MUCH different than the weight of a 4 bike rack with 4 DH bikes on it levered out a few feet from the hitch (especially when you hit big bumps)! Statics and all. I guess I'm kind of glad I only carry one bike most of the time and two rarely. My 1up can be configured for 1 bike so I'm not carrying the extra weight of an unused bike position. At any rate, I ain't gonna worry too much more about it.

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    I think I'm going to bite the bullet and purchase one of these...my wife might leave me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall256 View Post
    To the current 1up rack owners: how well do larger (2.3-2.5) tires fit?

    Thanks!
    Most downhill bikes have 2.5 tires on them ... And there was a good amount of downhill bikes if you bothered to look at a few pages.

    To answer your question they fit just fine, no problems at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall256 View Post
    To the current 1up rack owners: how well do larger (2.3-2.5) tires fit?
    Schwalbe Big Betty and Continental Trail King 2.4s fit fine. Those are some of the largest volume ones, even compared to DH tires, that you can find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campisi View Post
    Holy carp! What kind of vehicle do you have that 4-bike rack hitched to? I'm surprised the hitch itself didn't bend or the car's unibody where the hitch mounts didn't suffer some serious bendage (if it was a car - if a truck no problem). I've heard of class II hitches getting bent from 4-bike racks bouncing around on Forest Service roads.
    It was a Volvo SUV with a 2" receiver. I hit a buckle in the pavement near a construction zone way on the outskirts of Denver on a hot day. Being unfamiliar with the area, I missed the speed limit sign where it went down to 55 from 75. Really felt like we got launched - junk flying all over the car etc... Seat belts all locked.

    Everything was fine. Needless to say, I have a lot of confidence in my rack. Good stuff and highly recommended. It WILL hold your bike through some way out of spec stuff.

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    Just received my rack today. Crikey this thing is aluminum sculpture, beautiful. Looking forward to installing it tomorrow, thanks all for sharing their reviews.

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    Well i'm happy with mine pricy yes but also quality in my mind

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    1up rack and extension ordered! The only real complaints I see, are the lack of locks, and wobble. I'm a little nervous about "wobble", but I'm taking my chances!

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    What "wobble"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    What "wobble"?

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    A few (very few) reviews have stated the bikes "wobble" when installed. I'm not sure how accurate that is, I tend to take online reviews with a grain of salt. The positives FAR exceed the bad, that's for sure. There's a video on youtube that also shows the bike wobble too.

    Around the 2:18 mark... I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velosprocket View Post
    A few (very few) reviews have stated the bikes "wobble" when installed. I'm not sure how accurate that is, I tend to take online reviews with a grain of salt. The positives FAR exceed the bad, that's for sure. There's a video on youtube that also shows the bike wobble too.

    Around the 2:18 mark... I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.

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    That's not wobble. It's called not tightening the arms down enough. Silly noobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    That's not wobble. It's called not tightening the arms down enough. Silly noobs.
    +1 my 41LB bike sits nice and tight.. As you can see the guy in the youtube video just pushed the arms against the tires with finger weight, so imagine how nice and tight it is when your actually use your hand and close the arms up

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    That's not wobble. It's called not tightening the arms down enough. Silly noobs.
    And on top of that, anytime you cantilever anything away from the car or up in the air, you get some movement when you lever a mass on the end of a lever arm.

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    No probs w/ mine. Absolutely love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    That's not wobble. It's called not tightening the arms down enough. Silly noobs.
    I'm such a noob, I don't even have the rack yet, HA! Hopefully it will arrive by Friday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velosprocket View Post
    1up rack and extension ordered! The only real complaints I see, are the lack of locks, and wobble. I'm a little nervous about "wobble", but I'm taking my chances!
    Wobble? One of things I love about the rack, is that there is zero wobble. Did you try tightening the hell out the allen bolt? I had to wobble the rack while I tightened the bolt to get rid of the wobble, now it's solid.

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    There is a very slight wobble if you have to cross something like the railroad tracks near me on a slight angle, but i can not imagine anything that wide attached to a 1.25" piece of anything that in that situation that would not wobble a bit!
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    4" tires.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Randall256 View Post
    To the current 1up rack owners: how well do larger (2.3-2.5) tires fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t0pcat View Post
    There is a very slight wobble if you have to cross something like the railroad tracks near me on a slight angle, but i can not imagine anything that wide attached to a 1.25" piece of anything that in that situation that would not wobble a bit!
    I wouldn't call it a wobble. More like flex... like the springy-ness in the metal... which the 1Up has way less than any other rack on the market. There is no 'tap dance' kinda slop in there. It snugs up in the receiver with zero room to move.

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    Also maybe this might help answer your wobble question too .. The rack is tight, it doesnt move once you tighten it up.. The wobble you might see or be talking about is cuz the bikes have forks that rotate.. So there will be some type of movement ...

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