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    I just bought the single hitch mount rack with the second bike add-on. This thing is awesome. If you want quality and function and to be able to use your SUV's hatch w/o folding the rack out of the way each time, this is the rack for you. I have had a bunch of racks over the years and this is by far the best in design and quality.

    I spend a good amount of money on my bikes and ride a lot so for me I want quality and ease of use. I get both with this rack and I feel the price is a bargain. I don't like having to take the rack off when not in use. This rack folds up out of the way.

    One thing I don't see in the posts is about the parts that make up the rack. I am an engineer and a hobbyist welder and metal fabricator so maybe I notice this kind of stuff more than your average joe. Compare the quality of materials and craftsmanship of this rack to anything out there. I know Thule and Yak make good racks. However, they don't make this kind of quality and they definitely don't make a hitch rack that basically disappears until you fold it out to use it.

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    Road,Bikes in Rack

    I have not been able to find any comments on how road bikes (700 x 23) do on the 1up rack? Clearly, they do well with mtn bikes with lots of tire rubber.

    Are road bikes just as stable in the rack as mtn bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFT_PFT View Post
    I have not been able to find any comments on how road bikes (700 x 23) do on the 1up rack? Clearly, they do well with mtn bikes with lots of tire rubber.

    Are road bikes just as stable in the rack as mtn bikes?
    Grips the tires the same way...

    There's been a few comments here and there in this thread about 700c tires. Search RBR as well for a few comments on the 1UP.

    In my personal experience, the road bike swayed more due to less rubber contact, but the bike still isn't going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonylokrn View Post
    Grips the tires the same way...

    There's been a few comments here and there in this thread about 700c tires. Search RBR as well for a few comments on the 1UP.

    In my personal experience, the road bike swayed more due to less rubber contact, but the bike still isn't going anywhere.
    I couldn't find any specific comments about 700c tires in the rack on Road Bike Review or this thread....

    I want to use the rack for both mtn bikes and road bikes on a regular basis. Lots of good feeback and pics with rack and mtn bikes, just curious about how the rack does with 'dainty' road bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFT_PFT View Post
    I have not been able to find any comments on how road bikes (700 x 23) do on the 1up rack? Clearly, they do well with mtn bikes with lots of tire rubber.

    Are road bikes just as stable in the rack as mtn bikes?
    They work fine if not better. The rack will have less up and down movement too since they are considerably lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFT_PFT View Post
    I couldn't find any specific comments about 700c tires in the rack on Road Bike Review or this thread....

    I want to use the rack for both mtn bikes and road bikes on a regular basis. Lots of good feeback and pics with rack and mtn bikes, just curious about how the rack does with 'dainty' road bikes.
    If you arent in a rush wait til next week. I ordered mine earlier this week and will be delivered next week. Ill throw on my road bike with 700-23 tires

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    We took 4 road bikes on a 2500 mile round trip last year on the 1UpUSA rack. No issues whatsoever. Nothing to worry about. All the bikes had on 700-21 or 23 tires (tubulars).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFT_PFT View Post
    I couldn't find any specific comments about 700c tires in the rack on Road Bike Review or this thread....

    I want to use the rack for both mtn bikes and road bikes on a regular basis. Lots of good feeback and pics with rack and mtn bikes, just curious about how the rack does with 'dainty' road bikes.
    I use my 1up to transport both mountain and road bikes and it works fine with either. There is no adjusting needed, just put whatever bike you want on the rack and close the arms.

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    ive had the opportunity to use the 1up rack for a couple of weeks now and it seems to work well. it literally takes 30 seconds to secure the bike to the car. 30 seconds to take the bike off too. no ned for a bunch of cords or straps. although it is pretty stable, there is some minor side to side movement in the front tire at highway speeds (i can see the handlebars moving in the rearview mirror). very sturdy build on the rack. it makes other racks feel like toys. i have had to retighten the rack in the hitch just a little bit (not even a 1/10 of a turn with the wrench). it never was loose. before this rack, i used the thule raceway trunk rack but that one put dents in the bumper.
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    I've had this rack a month or so now, and love it. Expensive, but worth it.

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    I just got my extension to carry a second bike on my Quickrack. It's everything the rack itself is, easy on/off, secure, well made, blah, blah, blah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFT_PFT View Post
    I couldn't find any specific comments about 700c tires in the rack on Road Bike Review or this thread....

    I want to use the rack for both mtn bikes and road bikes on a regular basis. Lots of good feeback and pics with rack and mtn bikes, just curious about how the rack does with 'dainty' road bikes.
    I just ordered one myself.

    I got rid of my Yakima Holdup, which works fine for knobby tires (ie my MTB & Cross bike), but the arm does not hold onto my road bike tires too well (700x25c, Conti Grand Prix 4-seasons)

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    Ordered mine yesterday. Got tired of the saris blocking my tag and tail lights. Paid the extra for black b/c my car is black

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    I drove over 100 miles of rough dirt roads with the rack this weekend and not one problem.
    Plus I don't baby my FJ on the trails. It doesn't look like it but my FJ has over 5k invested in the suspension so it can handle the rough stuff.

    The 1up rack is by far the best rack I have ever owned!
    @ Rock dude: nice! Is that a 1 1/4" rack with a 2" adapter or is that a single rack made with a 2" hitch bar?

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    Just got mine. Love it, but what is that velcro strap for?
    Small ring in front makes it easier. Small ring in back makes it harder. That blows my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albertdc View Post
    @ Rock dude: nice! Is that a 1 1/4" rack with a 2" adapter or is that a single rack made with a 2" hitch bar?
    It's a single rack made with a 2" hitch bar.

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    I just ordered a single add-on for my rack on Sunday, it was already shipped out on Monday.
    Got to love this company!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny7 View Post
    Just got mine. Love it, but what is that velcro strap for?
    Extreme paranoia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDrilz View Post
    ive had the opportunity to use the 1up rack for a couple of weeks now and it seems to work well. it literally takes 30 seconds to secure the bike to the car. 30 seconds to take the bike off too. no ned for a bunch of cords or straps. although it is pretty stable, there is some minor side to side movement in the front tire at highway speeds (i can see the handlebars moving in the rearview mirror). very sturdy build on the rack. it makes other racks feel like toys. i have had to retighten the rack in the hitch just a little bit (not even a 1/10 of a turn with the wrench). it never was loose. before this rack, i used the thule raceway trunk rack but that one put dents in the bumper.
    Congrats... nice GT3 in the garage too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarlaxle View Post
    Congrats... nice GT3 in the garage too
    Don't forget the GTR in the other garage

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    Quote Originally Posted by sand wedge View Post
    Don't forget the GTR in the other garage
    Yeah, I noticed that after my post. Would love to see those two dicing up the track against each other...

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    Anyone experience a lot of wiggle with a bike in the 1Up rack? I've got the single 1.25" rack, and it seems to move a lot more than I would have thought. The hitch is securely mounted, the rack bolt is tight. Maybe I'm over scrutinizing it, I don't know how much is normal I guess.
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    I personally think it has a lot of flex/wiggle. Especially with 3 heavier bikes (think Moonlanders and Pugs). I mentioned that previously and even called 1up. They were quick to imply that I over exaggerate and the perceived movement is because it is so far back behind the car. However, I know that you don't perceive extra movement that way, the rack is/should be one with the frame of the car, so it shouldn't seem to move at all really.

    That being said, I've hauled 3 heavy bikes all over the country on a 1.25" 1up rack and never had a problem, just some bouncing when you hit odd bumps and dips in the road. They are very confident in the product and will replace it if it failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob1035 View Post
    Anyone experience a lot of wiggle with a bike in the 1Up rack? I've got the single 1.25" rack, and it seems to move a lot more than I would like. The hitch is securely mounted, the rack bolt is tight. Maybe I'm over scrutinizing it, I don't know how much is normal I guess.
    Are you talking about flex from the rack or play in the hitch itself? Unless you make a rack out of concrete I think the rack itself will have some give. A certain amount is healthy, like a tall building swaying in the wind. Kind of creepy but necessary. Mine doesn't seem to be excessive.
    Small ring in front makes it easier. Small ring in back makes it harder. That blows my mind.

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    OK, fair enough. It doesn't seem all that excessive, but like you said, its a little creepy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jn35646 View Post
    They were quick to imply that I over exaggerate and the perceived movement is because it is so far back behind the car. However, I know that you don't perceive extra movement that way, the rack is/should be one with the frame of the car, so it shouldn't seem to move at all really.
    The rack might be "one with the frame of the car" but you are not. It has been discussed before. One other explanation is that you have already gone over the bump and started to stabilize while the rear of the car is just hitting the bump. Both these contribute to the "exaggeration." Many have said that when observed from a different vehicle the perceived movement was much less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldevyne View Post
    The rack might be "one with the frame of the car" but you are not. It has been discussed before. One other explanation is that you have already gone over the bump and started to stabilize while the rear of the car is just hitting the bump. Both these contribute to the "exaggeration." Many have said that when observed from a different vehicle the perceived movement was much less.
    That's true and I'm not denying it. I'm just saying that these racks bounce more than others. Between owning others and riding buddies having others I've seen many racks, all with less movement than the 1up. I've looked in the same rear view mirror of this particular car and seen 2 other racks (cheapies even) that barely move.

    That being said, the 1up rack is still the best rack I've ever used. I freakin' love the product. Just stating my observations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob1035 View Post
    Anyone experience a lot of wiggle with a bike in the 1Up rack? I've got the single 1.25" rack, and it seems to move a lot more than I would have thought. The hitch is securely mounted, the rack bolt is tight. Maybe I'm over scrutinizing it, I don't know how much is normal I guess.
    I had trouble with ONE of my cars. Turned out it was a crappy hitch. Changed to a different brand hitch and all is well.

    Make sure you have the rack mounted as tight to the bumper as possible. If it's cantilevered way out back, there's a bigger lever arm and the hitch will flex.
    whatever...

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    Just ordered

    Hi,

    Just ordered my 1up single (black) today. I e-mailed them with a couple of question and got answers right away, even on a Saturday. I'm sure after all the reviews the rack will be fine. I'm just hoping it comes with a wheel of cheese, it's already shipped.

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    I'm similar to the cool kids now

    Convinced my co-worker (whom was on the fence of which platform rack to get)... to get one also (he had a Thule 594 on the roof.... so I don't think the T2 was on his short list)

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    Agreed.

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    Got my 1up a month ago...could not be happier! I had actually never seen one in person and am usually skeptical about buying stuff online if I haven't touched it in real life...but 1up has a 60-day money back guarantee and everyone on MTBR raves about it so I felt I had nothing to lose.

    This rack is so cool, looks great and just got its first real test over Thanksgiving as I drove over 1000 miles with my bike on the back...no problems. In fact, someone actually came up behind me on the Interstate and I swear they were checking out my rack...I could see the two people in the front seats discussing (with hand motions) how the rack held the bike.
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    We put up a big review here:

    1up USA Bike Rack Review | Road Bike News, Reviews, and Photos

    We used some of the photos from this thread. Thank you.

    Please get in there and 'like' the article and comment/share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post

    We used some of the photos from this thread. Thank you.

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    De nada. Nice to see 1-Up getting the props their product deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    De nada. Nice to see 1-Up getting the props their product deserves.
    Agreed, although now they're going to be mainstream and "lose their edge" or something. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerwad View Post
    Agreed, although now they're going to be mainstream and "lose their edge" or something. Oh well.
    I don't think it'll ever be mainstream due to price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    I don't think it'll ever be mainstream due to price.
    What does that even mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    What does that even mean?
    It means what it means. When people ask me about my rack in the parking lot at the trailhead, all is swell until they get sticker shock when they ask me how much I paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    It means what it means. When people ask me about my rack in the parking lot at the trailhead, all is swell until they get sticker shock when they ask me how much I paid.
    IDK, I got what you were getting at. I think that what 1up does is charge what they feel they need to in order to make a product the way they think is best (US-made, machined aluminum, etc, etc) rather than one that will simply sell the most units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tednugent View Post
    I'm similar to the cool kids now

    Convinced my co-worker (whom was on the fence of which platform rack to get)... to get one also (he had a Thule 594 on the roof.... so I don't think the T2 was on his short list)
    Here's mine. I'm not sure if I'm the co-worker you were talking about and I was on the fence about it but decided to go with it. I've only clocked about 100 miles with the bike on the rack but so far so good.
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    Considering getting the single bike rack. Just curious what is everyone using for security of the bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Considering getting the single bike rack. Just curious what is everyone using for security of the bike?
    I'm using a cable lock to secure the bike to the rack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Considering getting the single bike rack. Just curious what is everyone using for security of the bike?
    Cable lock for the bike to the rack. I also have a small D-lock to provide a lock of the rack to the hitch receiver (as well as peace of mind that the rack won't slide out of the receiver if the mechanism loosens). Main thing is to keep your eyes on your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campisi View Post
    Cable lock for the bike to the rack. I also have a small D-lock to provide a lock of the rack to the hitch receiver (as well as peace of mind that the rack won't slide out of the receiver if the mechanism loosens). Main thing is to keep your eyes on your bike.
    So, you're using that to secure the rack to the hitch so someone just couldn't steal the rack and whatever is on it, correct?

    Also, what's the approximate cost to get a hitch installed on your car and where would one get one installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Also, what's the approximate cost to get a hitch installed on your car and where would one get one installed?
    Varies, but maybe $150-$250 depending on what you buy. U-Haul dealers commonly sell them, as do trailer dealers. Check your yellow pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    So, you're using that to secure the rack to the hitch so someone just couldn't steal the rack and whatever is on it, correct?

    Also, what's the approximate cost to get a hitch installed on your car and where would one get one installed?
    I got 3 receiver hitches from etrailer.com. They have great prices, shipping is free, and in most cases they even have videos on how to install it. Most of their hitches don't require drilling as they try to use existing holes already on the vehicles. I use the cable lock to lock the bike to the rack. The rack attaches to the hitch with a custom allen or hex wrench. Without it nobody can remove the rack from the hitch.... in theory. But I don't leave the rack on my car anyway. The rack is so easy and quick to put on and take off that I just fold it up and put it in the trunk.
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    Thanks for all the info guys. Much appreciated!

    Has anyone purchased the wheel lock? Does that work well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Thanks for all the info guys. Much appreciated!

    Has anyone purchased the wheel lock? Does that work well?
    If you buy the wheel lock only... what's preventing them from just stealing the frame only?

    I prefer a cable lock myself, so that you can secure the frame & wheel to the rack and if you have enough length, to the hitch chain loop as well. I think it's a better theft deterrent.

    It's not theft proof... a prepared thief will be able to defeat most mechanisms rather easily.

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    Called a local U-haul shop. They quoted me $225 for parts and installation of hitch. $75 in labor if I bought one myself from somewhere else.

    $525 + shipping, and only being able to carry one bike. Yikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Called a local U-haul shop. They quoted me $225 for parts and installation of hitch. $75 in labor if I bought one myself from somewhere else.

    $525 + shipping, and only being able to carry one bike. Yikes.

    Depending on your car, etrailer.com is going to have the hitch for less than $225, free shipping, and super easy installation. Seems like a no-brainer to do it yourself. You just need some basic hand tools. If you're curious about the work to install, search for the specific application for your car and check to see if they have a install video or instructions on etrailer.com. That should give you a sense of what you'd be in for. It really is fairly painless on most cars.

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    You can also try Amazon.com, I bought my Curt hitch brand new from them for only $109.99, shipped next day via Prime, it was quite a bargain. I had it installed where I service my WRX for a 24-case of Heineken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    $525 + shipping, and only being able to carry one bike. Yikes.
    You forgot $20K+ you paid for the car. Just to carry a bike..

    Seriously though, hitch, or roof rails will be a fixed cost no matter what.

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    I went with etrailer.com for my hitch. Over $150 is free shipping. Mine was just under 150, so I ordered a few extras. With the video, its easy to install. Maybe 30 mins for my Civic.

    Love the rack. The only issue I've had is a sticky bar (the bar the lever slides on). A few drops on dry lube and it works like new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    You can also try Amazon.com, I bought my Curt hitch brand new from them for only $109.99, shipped next day via Prime, it was quite a bargain. I had it installed where I service my WRX for a 24-case of Heineken.
    What year is your WRX? I have a 2010 hatch and I've heard that some hitches require some minor drilling. 109 plus a case isn't a bad deal at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lev View Post
    What year is your WRX? I have a 2010 hatch and I've heard that some hitches require some minor drilling. 109 plus a case isn't a bad deal at all...
    Drilling the car or trimming the bumper a bit underneath? I've heard of the latter needing to be done in some cases, never extra drilling.

    Either way, I drive a 2005 Saab 9-2X Aero, aka 2005 WRX, and it was complete plug and play. 4 bolts and that's it for me. Plus the Curt hitch doesn't look like an eye sore from a mile away like the OEM Subaru hitch. It extends a lot beneath the bumper line.
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    1up and ground clearance

    I'm strongly considering a new 1up rack but I'm a little worried about ground clearance. I have an A4 with a Kurt hitch and my driveway is steep. I'm currently running an Xport 2 rack (cradle style) and it hits the street unless I really turn in at a shallow angle. Does anyone have a side view if a 1up so I can get an idea of clearance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lev View Post
    What year is your WRX? I have a 2010 hatch and I've heard that some hitches require some minor drilling. 109 plus a case isn't a bad deal at all...
    Is it a Curt hitch? They tend to be the brand that requires drilling. Bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lev View Post
    What year is your WRX? I have a 2010 hatch and I've heard that some hitches require some minor drilling. 109 plus a case isn't a bad deal at all...
    I recently put one on my 2013 WRX Wagon. I had to do some minor bumper trimming where the hitch part comes out. No drilling was required as they used existing holes in the frame. I did have to fish the bolts into the frame but they included the fish wire with excellent instructions on how to do it. I did have to drop the muffler to fit the hitch into place. Overall it took a couple of hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    You can also try Amazon.com, I bought my Curt hitch brand new from them for only $109.99, shipped next day via Prime, it was quite a bargain. I had it installed where I service my WRX for a 24-case of Heineken.
    Amazon is worth checking. Got a Curt on the Matrix from them. The car was about 5 years old when I installed so I had to buy a tool to chase the existing threads under the car due to a little rust from our salty roads. Still was a 1 hour job and easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Called a local U-haul shop. They quoted me $225 for parts and installation of hitch. $75 in labor if I bought one myself from somewhere else.

    $525 + shipping, and only being able to carry one bike. Yikes.
    if that's all you use the hitch for, then it adds $225 to the cost of any rack. We use our hitch for pulling trailers too.

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    I would probably ruin my transmission in my sedan pulling something.

    Anyway I pulled the trigger. I'm just one of those that has to gripe and complain a bit to justify something like this.

    Uhaul is installing the hitch Tuesday.

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    It'll be about the same as the XPort

    Quote Originally Posted by Algernon View Post
    I'm strongly considering a new 1up rack but I'm a little worried about ground clearance. I have an A4 with a Kurt hitch and my driveway is steep. I'm currently running an Xport 2 rack (cradle style) and it hits the street unless I really turn in at a shallow angle. Does anyone have a side view if a 1up so I can get an idea of clearance?
    Here's mine on the back of my B6 A4 with sport package...

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-90QJSF5zYKkmxmiRN0ybXNfEeC9Yzrk7A2JpaspXd4?feat=em bedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v1O6my59mZI/Tmq6CayrZCI/AAAAAAAAYF0/UoHJHZ60ba8/s800/IMG_1216.JPG" height="600" width="800" /></a>

    it grinds a bit, but it's no big deal. I would just say inspect it once in a while around the bolt holes to be sure it doesn't crack.

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    yes it grinds... so did my Yakima holdup

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    Just courious, do you guys have any suggestions for cable locks that work really well with this bike rack? I'm looking at purchasing something like this:

    Amazon.com: Kryptonite 720018210610 KryptoFlex 3/8" x 7&#39; 1007 Double Loop Security Cable: Sports & Outdoors

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Just courious, do you guys have any suggestions for cable locks that work really well with this bike rack? I'm looking at purchasing something like this:

    Amazon.com: Kryptonite 720018210610 KryptoFlex 3/8" x 7' 1007 Double Loop Security Cable: Sports & Outdoors
    That is the cable I use.
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    Cables suck

    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Just courious, do you guys have any suggestions for cable locks that work really well with this bike rack? I'm looking at purchasing something like this:

    Amazon.com: Kryptonite 720018210610 KryptoFlex 3/8" x 7' 1007 Double Loop Security Cable: Sports & Outdoors
    Use a chain. It doesn't take much to cut a cable, even those crazy thick ones.

    I would also suggest using a good quality U-Lock around the rear wheel and frame of the bike. Make the thief have to defeat several things before he can ride the bike away.

    I use a U-Lock around the bike, thick chain, and another tiny U-Lock around my trailer hitch safety chain loops.

    Those thin cables that come on other bike racks are pretty close to useless. I guess they will keep somebody from casually walking by and making off with your bike, but if your friendly neighborhood bike thief has any kind of tools on him he can defeat it. Some of those locks you can defeat with a big screwdriver and a pair of vice grips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Use a chain. It doesn't take much to cut a cable, even those crazy thick ones.

    I would also suggest using a good quality U-Lock around the rear wheel and frame of the bike. Make the thief have to defeat several things before he can ride the bike away.

    I use a U-Lock around the bike, thick chain, and another tiny U-Lock around my trailer hitch safety chain loops.

    Those thin cables that come on other bike racks are pretty close to useless. I guess they will keep somebody from casually walking by and making off with your bike, but if your friendly neighborhood bike thief has any kind of tools on him he can defeat it. Some of those locks you can defeat with a big screwdriver and a pair of vice grips.
    Great suggestions! I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Maybe once I receive the bike rack I'll understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Use a chain. It doesn't take much to cut a cable, even those crazy thick ones.

    I would also suggest using a good quality U-Lock around the rear wheel and frame of the bike. Make the thief have to defeat several things before he can ride the bike away.

    I use a U-Lock around the bike, thick chain, and another tiny U-Lock around my trailer hitch safety chain loops.

    Those thin cables that come on other bike racks are pretty close to useless. I guess they will keep somebody from casually walking by and making off with your bike, but if your friendly neighborhood bike thief has any kind of tools on him he can defeat it. Some of those locks you can defeat with a big screwdriver and a pair of vice grips.
    Agreed, the cables are whack. Chains are your best solution.

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    Kuat Sherpa vs. 1UP for Mazda3 hatchback (2012)

    Hi, fellow biking enthusiasts -

    I just got a 2012 Mazda 3 (5-door) hatchback, and am now shopping for a bike rack that I can put on a tow hitch on the back of this lovely car. I'm seeing lots of good posts for the Kuat Sherpa and various 1UP racks. Has anyone put either of these on a Mazda3 hatchback? An pros or cons?

    Thanks!
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    Note - I love the white of the Sherpa, but it looks like it leans in a bit towards the car in the pictures ... and my hatchback door bulges out a bit - possibly a bad combo. Also, my friend's Kuat NV made my front brakes tighten on my front tire. Maybe my bike (a Novara Kia) doesn't tolerate being held close to the brakes.

    The 1UP looks lighter in weight, which is a big plus. (I'm a female, and light-weight is desirable.) A possible downside is that I have a cargo rack and basket over my back wheel, so I'm not sure if the 1UP design will accommodate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Great suggestions! I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Maybe once I receive the bike rack I'll understand.
    One of these:




    I also used a Disc lock. The storage unit and fixie bike folks favor this kind of lock:



    These work well for securing a chain to itself or around the hitch's safety chain loops. They are fairly hard to cut, and hard to get the jaws of the bolt cutters around the shackle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    One of these:




    I also used a Disc lock. The storage unit and fixie bike folks favor this kind of lock:



    These work well for securing a chain to itself or around the hitch's safety chain loops. They are fairly hard to cut, and hard to get the jaws of the bolt cutters around the shackle.
    These are interesting solutions. Do you have pictures of them being used on the rack? I'm curious as to how you use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyride1 View Post
    These are interesting solutions. Do you have pictures of them being used on the rack? I'm curious as to how you use them.
    +1 I'd like to see how you use the hitch rack as well. TY!

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    I've got one on my 2012 Mazda 3 hatchback. Got a Curt hitch from Amazon and it was an easy install.

    I LOVE the rack. I've put a few thousand miles with a bike on it and it's working great.

    The bike sits far enough back that the rack on your back wheel won't be a problem.



    Quote Originally Posted by BigSky3 View Post
    Hi, fellow biking enthusiasts -

    I just got a 2012 Mazda 3 (5-door) hatchback, and am now shopping for a bike rack that I can put on a tow hitch on the back of this lovely car. I'm seeing lots of good posts for the Kuat Sherpa and various 1UP racks. Has anyone put either of these on a Mazda3 hatchback? An pros or cons?

    Thanks!
    BigSky

    Note - I love the white of the Sherpa, but it looks like it leans in a bit towards the car in the pictures ... and my hatchback door bulges out a bit - possibly a bad combo. Also, my friend's Kuat NV made my front brakes tighten on my front tire. Maybe my bike (a Novara Kia) doesn't tolerate being held close to the brakes.

    The 1UP looks lighter in weight, which is a big plus. (I'm a female, and light-weight is desirable.) A possible downside is that I have a cargo rack and basket over my back wheel, so I'm not sure if the 1UP design will accommodate that.
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    Thanks, FloriDave! That helps me out a lot!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyride1 View Post
    These are interesting solutions. Do you have pictures of them being used on the rack? I'm curious as to how you use them.
    The chain and locks have nothing to do with the rack. The bike is locked to the car. I locked it directly to the hitch receiver. I'll try and take pics next time I rack it up.

    There was somebody who posted earlier who actually found a U-Lock that bolted around the trailer hitch and around the 1UpUSA rack.

    Oh, on a side note I found one minor flaw with the rack:

    1Up used standard SAE size bolts!! They should be metric!!

    Which is fine, but some of my bolts loosened up, namely the allen bolt that tips up and down to lock the trays. And, one of the bolts that the tray swivels around. In 1Up's defense, my mounting plate was damaged when somebody's car bumped my car when parked, breaking the locks off. I replaced the tray plate myself and bolted the trays on. I may have not tightened them down to the right torque. I guessed.

    Anyway, it sent me scrounging around the shop trying to find SAE sized allen wrenches and open ended wrenches. Half inch, 9/16, 3/16 allen... dudes?!?

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    Ahhh, I thought you used the lock to secure the bike rack to the trailer hitch.

    Let me get this straight. You secured the small U-lock to the trailer hitch and ran a chain through the U-lock?

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    I think eurospek posted the original picture. I copied him. A smaller, 7" U lock will fit through the chain loop on the hitch and around the rack body. I don't have a picture of it on my phone. I don't bother around town, but I do use it on road trips. That's for the rack only. I also run a cable through the U lock and around the bike while traveling.

    Around town I lock my bike directly to the spare wheel, since that's easiest. I have a rubber coated and steel jacketed Abus cable for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    I think eurospek posted the original picture. I copied him. A smaller, 7" U lock will fit through the chain loop on the hitch and around the rack body. I don't have a picture of it on my phone. I don't bother around town, but I do use it on road trips. That's for the rack only. I also run a cable through the U lock and around the bike while traveling.

    Around town I lock my bike directly to the spare wheel, since that's easiest. I have a rubber coated and steel jacketed Abus cable for that.
    See page 39 of this thread for the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    I too was of that logic last season when I was looking at racks (always thinking the worst lol). But I am glad I bought the 1up 2 bike combo last year. I just couldn't stomach paying a little less or even the same in some instances for the Thule/Yakima/Kuat steel garbage offerings at the time. Mine still looks new, operates flawlessly, and never had a problem with mine. And always get numerous comments/questions at the trail head parking lot about it.

    But to make me sleep better at night, I have a Kryptonite mini U-lock going thru the rack and the hitch metal loop, so even if the locking bolt ever fails, the rack isn't going to slide out anywhere, there's basically less than an inch of leeway with this, and still safely inserted in my hitch.

    And disregard the red strap, no longer in use.



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    Yup, that U-Lock works perfectly for me.

    Thanks for digging up the pic.
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    I just got mine (a two tray) a few days ago. I freakin love it!. It's so well made. The tooling, components, design, look, ease of use, etc. It's one of those products that feel and look worth the money you spend on it. Any financial hesitancy will be swept away with joy once you get it. I love seeing it on the back of my FJ. I love seeing it loaded with bikes. And, I love taking it out to the trails. I wish it was my company. They deserve tremendous success! And... it's made in the USA.

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    With the recent Pugsley purchase I think it is time to ditch the old style T2 and pick of these things up. Thanks everyone on the thread for helping making the decision easier.
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    You won't be sorry! Best rack ever.

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    Hi, FloriDave -

    It just occurred to me that the weight of my bike might matter. (D'uh!) I have a lot of accessories on my bike, so that the whole bike weighs about 40 lbs. Do you think the 1UP (or the Kuat Sherpa) would be able to hold that much weight? (I'm asking 1UP and Sherpa that question, but it's helpful to hear a (perhaps more accurate) answer from someone who actually owns such a bike rack, lol.)

    As a memory-jogger, I'm thinking of putting the 1UP or Kuat Sherpa on my 2012 Mazda3 5-door hatchback.

    Thanks!!

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    ... and if we just ...

    BigSky3, you don't have to worry as I sit on my rack when the bike is of off it. I put a flip-flop or towel down and sit in the middle on the rack. No issues and I am over 200#...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSky3 View Post
    Hi, FloriDave -

    It just occurred to me that the weight of my bike might matter. (D'uh!) I have a lot of accessories on my bike, so that the whole bike weighs about 40 lbs. Do you think the 1UP (or the Kuat Sherpa) would be able to hold that much weight? (I'm asking 1UP and Sherpa that question, but it's helpful to hear a (perhaps more accurate) answer from someone who actually owns such a bike rack, lol.)

    As a memory-jogger, I'm thinking of putting the 1UP or Kuat Sherpa on my 2012 Mazda3 5-door hatchback.

    Thanks!!
    It won't matter at all to the rack. The weak link is the hitch, but one 40 lb bike on that rack should be well within your hitch rating.

    70-odd pounds of bike on my 1-Up:
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    I have to say "Wow!"

    I got my new rack delivered today and it is an impressive piece of equipment! I got the two bike rack in black and put it on my Jeep JK and it fits perfectly. I'm very happy. If anyone is on the fence about getting this I just have one thing to say "Do it!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    It won't matter at all to the rack. The weak link is the hitch, but one 40 lb bike on that rack should be well within your hitch rating.

    70-odd pounds of bike on my 1-Up:
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    I think 1-Up is the only rack that you can offset bikes like that.
    Best rack out there!

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    Thanks, Rock dude and Evasive!!! That was super helpful!

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    Can someone post a side view pic of the rack folded up when not in use. I have 20'' between my wall and the hitch pin hole on my 4runner and I just want to make sure the rack will fit on my runner while in the garage.
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridefast84 View Post
    Can someone post a side view pic of the rack folded up when not in use. I have 20'' between my wall and the hitch pin hole on my 4runner and I just want to make sure the rack will fit on my runner while in the garage.
    thanks
    I don't have a 4 runner so bumper to hitch ratio could be off a little but for my VW golf it sticks out 6 3/4 from the bumper to the furthest point out on the rack when folded. Guessing it should be real close to the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridefast84 View Post
    Can someone post a side view pic of the rack folded up when not in use. I have 20'' between my wall and the hitch pin hole on my 4runner and I just want to make sure the rack will fit on my runner while in the garage.
    thanks
    There are a number of those already posted, although I agree this thread has gotten unwieldy.

    This pic was posted by LittleBuddy on page 42:


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    Wow that's great my old thule stuck out nearly 20".

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    Read through this whole thread and decided to buy this rack. Just getting back in to biking, and loving it so far. Love this freakin' rack too. Solid, well-built, and everyone who has seen it has complimented it. Such a fine piece of metal. Fits my 29er well.

    Can't post pics yet, but it looks just like everyone elses

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    Just curious, did you buy this combination of locks?

    Amazon.com: Kryptonite Evo Mini-7 with 4-Foot Flex Lock: Sports & Outdoors
    Yup. Four feet is shorter than you imagine, btw.

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    I just had a nice email conversation with someone at 1UP. I want to clarify a couple things that are important for this thread.

    The Allen Wrench that is provided is made by (or for) 1UP! That means you cannot buy it in a hardware store. So, it is essentially self locking and thief proof, as the locking mechanism is internal. 1UP is not aware of any hitch rack ever being stolen off a car.

    I was emailing them, because, I had wobble where the 'extender' enters the hitch. It turned out to be my error, as I forgot to use the washer. Now, there is no wobble at all.

    This rack is the bomb! I freakin love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejudad View Post
    I just had a nice email conversation with someone at 1UP. I want to clarify a couple things that are important for this thread.

    The Allen Wrench that is provided is made by (or for) 1UP! That means you cannot buy it in a hardware store. So, it is essentially self locking and thief proof, as the locking mechanism is internal. 1UP is not aware of any hitch rack ever being stolen off a car.

    I was emailing them, because, I had wobble where the 'extender' enters the hitch. It turned out to be my error, as I forgot to use the washer. Now, there is no wobble at all.

    This rack is the bomb! I freakin love it.
    I haven't actually measured the wrench, but unless it is a non-standard size, you can indeed buy it. Not at Home Depot or Lowe's, but it is possible.

    That said, it is very unlikely that any random thief will have a wrench that fits on their person. It definitely isn't something that I'd worry about.

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    When in doubt put a lock on it, certainly when they get more popular and peeps have the additional trays. I saw a post in the beginning of this thread IIRC, wherein someone had drilled a hole in both the base and a tray to keep things together..YMMV
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