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    V2 OPI Steerer

    V2 OPI steerer has arrived.

    Hope it solves the creaky/flexy V1 OPI stem issues.

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    $75!!! i'd let it creak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkincake View Post
    $75!!! i'd let it creak.
    I would too . . . if it were JUST a creak. But the V1 stem flexes/pivots from side to side when torquing on the bars or hitting gnar. I can see, feel and hear this whenever I get on it. Drives me batty. Can't tolerate it. Must fix.

    A new conventional stem and steerer is way more than $75. So . . .

    But you are right, C'dale should make this a warranty/recall item, as the V1 was clearly a defective design. At least offer the fix "at cost". A whole new stem is only $110.00.
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    This steerer is installed on 2013 bikes, right?

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    Dam,
    I paid $80 for my entire V1 OPI stem. It does not creak. So, I'm just going to wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumpy View Post
    C'dale should make this a warranty/recall item, as the V1 was clearly a defective design. At least offer the fix "at cost". A whole new stem is only $110.00.
    if it's as bad as all that, then you are 100% correct - they should sort it for you.

    mine has be good thus far, but i only ride xc. it sounds like you give it a good workout!

    good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziscwg View Post
    Dam,
    I paid $80 for my entire V1 OPI stem. It does not creak. So, I'm just going to wait.
    Yeah, I think I paid about that for mine at like Bikewagon or something. was creak free for maybe the first 250 miles or so, then started in and has gotten progressively worse and flexier. Prolly needs to be re-torqued if not re-installed w/ fresh anti sieze. But obviously, the root cause is the poor design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_marsbar View Post
    This steerer is installed on 2013 bikes, right?
    Not all.
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    500 miles of hard singe track on mine and not a peep....I suggest re torquing and re lube is in order if yours makes noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cad10 View Post
    ..I suggest re torquing and re lube is in order if yours makes noise.
    Yah - there are countless threads/posts of people repeatedly doing that to temporarily fix the creak/flex of the OPI stem.

    It's a very poor design, which is why it got redesigned in short order. Hopefully, the redesign is a permanent fix, as the stem is not exactly easy to remove and relube/install.

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    My '13 scalpel just arrived at the shop, the first order of business is to see if it had the V.2. This would be great as the V.1 on my '12 was a pos and I replaced it with a fatty steerer and stem which solved the problem of flex and creak, but it looks retro and the new stem looks much better. Besides on a bike at this price point I shouldn't have to swap out parts like that.

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    Thanks for showing it...That new design does look a lot better. The base of the stem is now locked against the top inner spacer, so should be a lot more solid than merely having the steerer thread hold it in place. That steerer thread is a very fine pitch and hauling on the bars puts an awful lot of leverage onto it.

    I am glad they continue to improve these things. A free trade in for our old steerers would be nice, or yes, "at cost" (can't believe that would happen unless it's a safety concern, though).

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    Another discussion thread on the new steerer here:

    New 2013 Cannondale OPI Stem. Small Changes??? - Weight Weenies

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    By the way for any UK guys (like me) you can get them at Qwerty cycles as below. The pic is the old one but Qwerty said all steerers are the new design now:

    Qwerty Cycles ? Cannondale OPI Steerer STD KH078/STD

    Just ordered one - Great price at £19.00 too!

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    Update: V2 stem installed and ridden - It really does feel a lot more solid, much better. I'd recommend it if you don't like the "play" or creaking in the current one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimification View Post
    Update: V2 stem installed and ridden - It really does feel a lot more solid, much better. I'd recommend it if you don't like the "play" or creaking in the current one.
    Nice. Just got mine yesterday. have not installed yet
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    Following this as my '12 Carbon 3 had the creaking and has that flexy feeling.
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    My LBS lubed the steerer tube on my 2013 F29er 1 and while it reduced the creaking, it did not fully the resolve the issue.

    I agreed to the repair only if Cannondale (or the LBS) agreed to upgrade the component if the lube did not work.

    My LBS has ordered the upgrade and it may be a few weeks until the part is delivered...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyusem View Post
    My LBS lubed the steerer tube on my 2013 F29er 1 and while it reduced the creaking, it did not fully the resolve the issue.
    Yeah, I pulled, cleaned, lubed mine a few weeks ago and all seemed pretty good, except for the continued "flex". Today, it began creaking wicked and wildly, again. I put flex in parens because the 2 pieces actually PIVOT on one another. Its not really stem flex. The flex comes from the lefty top clamp and the upper headset bearings - the only things keeping the stemp from pivoting freely.

    There is just way too much movement at the interface of the 2 pieces. Once the lube gets squeezed/washed out and/or contaminated, it creaks like a mutha as it pivots.

    Can't wait to get the new steerer installed.
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    It's interesting how different people have different experiences with the OPI stem. I've had one on my RZ120 for about the past year or so and have well over 1000 miles on it and there has been absolutely no creaking whatsoever. During this time I have not disassembled or re-greased the bearings or threads. I would still like to get the V2 model just because I like having the newest stuff.

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    hi! can you please tell me if I have V1 or V2 OPI steer by just this pic:

    http://i47.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0522/...fbb706244f.jpg

    or there is no chance to tell that by this picture ?

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    Sunny_12: Sorry, you can't tell from that angle.

    You need to look underneath the head tube.



    You see the bit this guys has in his fingers? That sits underneath your head tube. On the bottom of that are some small white numbers / letters. If it's a V2, it should have "V2" printed there amongst some other letters probably.

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    Thanx for reply !

    I see MK2 numbers on that.. could that mean version 2 ?

    I'll take a picture tonight..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    Thanx for reply !

    I see MK2 numbers on that.. could that mean version 2 ?

    I'll take a picture tonight..
    Yeah I think so, I can't remember if mine said "V2" or "Mk2". I'll check but don't think I'll be around again until next week to post but it sounds like you have the newer one anyway...

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    jimification, I would appreciate it if you check and post the info here next week I'll be around )

    i am getting some strange sounds, not quite creak but i'd say chattering (if that's a correct definition)

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    Make sure you plug the bottom, dirt gets in it and works it way up. That's the main cause of the creaking
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    BoostN7, thanx for the notification ) I think I 'll put in some sponge may be..

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    I used a Ribena bottle cap
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    i'll check something local here =)

    how do you take it off ?

    I use the lefty SKS mudguard shield sometimes, so I will need this hole free off bottle cap =)

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    Hey guys, Just thought I'd pipe up here.
    I'm a mechanic at a Cannondale shop, and have been working on a few customer's bikes with the OPI v1 creaking issue.
    We've yet to receive any v2 replacements yet, but I wanted to share some things I've noticed. The commonality among the bikes that have has issues is length of stem. No 90mm stems have been noisy, just the long ones. Basically, the amount of leverage seems to be deforming the threads on the steerer. We've replaced a couple of OPIs in favor of the old-style one piece steerers- problem solved!
    As soon as I get some v2 assemblies on customer's bikes, I'll report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimification View Post
    Sunny_12: Sorry, you can't tell from that angle.

    You need to look underneath the head tube.



    You see the bit this guys has in his fingers? That sits underneath your head tube. On the bottom of that are some small white numbers / letters. If it's a V2, it should have "V2" printed there amongst some other letters probably.

    It has printed "134 MK2 RB1" on the bottom... could that stand for ver. 2 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    It has printed "134 MK2 RB1" on the bottom... could that stand for ver. 2 ?

    Here's a pic of the new version from canndale experts

    V2 OPI Steerer-thumbnail.jpg
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    Yep "mk2" are the magic letters to look for on the V2 steerers.

    A few weeks after re-installing my V1, it began to sound-off once again.

    So I just installed my V2. Seems more solid w/ less torsional flex with just just applying pressure on the bars.

    The threads on my 90mm V1 were definitely deformed, presumably from all of the movement between the stem/steerer crunching the threads and any grit in between.

    I agree that a lower steerer tube cap would be a worthy mod. Tons of crap quickly works its way into the greasy threads of the assembly. If anyone discovers a plug-n-play option to cover the hole, please post up. I am contemplating spraying some expanding foam in mine! LOL.
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    ziscwg, Stumpjumpy

    Thanx for the help with recognition ) !

    and the plug-in and easy plug-out cap would be great to find out =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziscwg View Post
    Here's a pic of the new version from canndale experts

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    I think folks w/ a '13 bike want to know how to tell if their assembled bike came with the V1 or the V2, without having to disassemble the stem/steerer. The V2 is marked with "MK2" on the bottom underside of the steerer.
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    The 2013 bikes have not been equipped with the V2 steerer unless it's an XL headtube and Lefty clamp spacing. An easy way to check is that the first style steerer has a synthetic flat shim just above the BB tool interface area. The V2 steerer uses a rubber O ring there instead.

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    well, my '13 Scalpel has a MK2 on the bottom, folks here say it could mean V2 steerer..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    well, my '13 Scalpel has a MK2 on the bottom, folks here say it could mean V2 steerer..
    That's what the C'dale product update information sheet (tech note 130197) that came w/ my V2 steerer says.
    "The new steerer item has a shoulder and is easily identified by "MK2" laser etched on the bottom."

    BTW, the other digits laser-etched on the bottom are a date code and headtube length in mm.
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    Cannondale Lefty OPI Steerer Only - Standard - KH078 - CannondaleExperts.com

    here, the picture with the scheme shows "MK2", so I think it means V2 steerer

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    but i guess i don't have a rubber o-ring down there.. as well as there is no synthetic flat shim .. i should check that tonight back at home .. maybe in the shop they did forget to put that on..

    i am having strange sounds: DSCF0729 - YouTube

    I thought it was from lefty.. now i am thinking about steer and inner spacers

    should bring it tomorrow to a local service

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    does anyone have a text description for this scheme : http://icimg.com/kh058doc.jpg ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    but i guess i don't have a rubber o-ring down there.. as well as there is no synthetic flat shim .. i should check that tonight back at home .. maybe in the shop they did forget to put that on..

    i am having strange sounds: DSCF0729 - YouTube

    I thought it was from lefty.. now i am thinking about steer and inner spacers

    should bring it tomorrow to a local service
    The O-ring is necessary, otherwise the steerer will be able to move up/down in the headtube a few mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    does anyone have a text description for this scheme : http://icimg.com/kh058doc.jpg ?
    I do - its on the C'dale tech note. But I will not be able to scan and post for u for at least another 5 days or so.
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    thanx, Stumpjumpy, now I understand that at the shop they mounted it incorrect. In the C'dale lefty hybrid 2013 manual page 11 there is a scheme with I guess old V.1 steerer and it shows only 3 outer spacers and no inner spacers. Do I understand right that V2 goes with inner and outer spacers, while V1 goes only with outer spacers ?

    here SCALPEL 29ER CARBON ULTIMATE - Scalpel 29er - Full Suspension 29er - Mountain - Bikes - 2013 is no outer spacers also..

    i am getting a bit confused.. the scheme http://icimg.com/kh058doc.jpg says, that if there is 3 + 1 (red) spacers inside = there should be 3 spacers outside. Now I suppose that at the shop they put all spacers outside and no inside..

    well, tomorrow will show... if there is lack of outer spacers, can I buy it somewhere ?

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    Stumpjumpy, please, what do you think.. if I have http://i47.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0522/...fbb706244f.jpg only 2 black and 1 red spacers and nothing more.. the correct way is to put 1 black + 1 red inside, and 1 black outside ?

    you are helping me very much with all this stuff !

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    The spacers just adjust stem height. All are optional, except the chamfered red one at the base of the steerer's shoulder, which is required. If any additional spacers are used to adjust height, an equal amount have to be used on the lower (internal/invisible) and upper (exposed) portion of the steerer.

    I suspect the sound u hear is the upper spacers rattling around because of the space created by the absence of the lower O-ring. Can u move those spacers around by hand, or are they tightly sandwiched in there?

    Alternatively, there may not be the correct number of lower/internal steerer spacers used, allowing those to rattle around freely (and also defeating the purpose of the V2 redesign).
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    now the picture is getting clear !

    I can move them around easy ! well not like the wheel of fortune , but I guess you know what I mean ! I tried to cover them with my hand while shacking the bike - but the sound didn't disappear.

    Now I think I understand why my arms get tired , i think I have unnecessary spacers up outside !

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    I feel some relief =) I guess you helped me to find a problem with this rattling sound, you showed me an incorrect positioning of these spacers and i hope the reason for my arm ache =)

    tomorrow I am going to the service and tell them what to do, after that i hope the problems will go away..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    now the picture is getting clear !

    I can move them around easy ! well not like the wheel of fortune , but I guess you know what I mean ! I tried to cover them with my hand while shacking the bike - but the sound didn't disappear.

    Now I think I understand why my arms get tired , i think I have unnecessary spacers up outside !
    If the sound did not go away when you held the spacers, then it is likely the lower/internal spacers that are rattling because the correct number were not used.

    Take it to the shop and when they pull it apart to add the O-ring they will see if a spacer is missing.
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    or may be holding with my hand wasn't strong enough, tomorrow i'll update here about how the things went

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    V2 OPI Steerer

    Some clarification: the exposed "outer" red spacer does NOT need to be on bottom of the exposed stack of spacers. The exposed spacers (red and black) can be stacked in any order. The hidden "inner" spacers (inside the headset, under the exposed spacers) must be stacked with red on the bottom, plus an additional number of hidden spacers equal to the number of exposed spacers. In the photo above there are three exposed outer spacers (two black and one red) so there should be one hidden red spacer (always required) plus three hidden inner spacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    http://i47.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0522/...fbb706244f.jpg only 2 black and 1 red spacers and nothing more.. the correct way is to put 1 black + 1 red inside, and 1 black outside ?
    No. For this stack of three outer "exposed" spacers, you need three inner "hidden" spacers on top of the one required inner hidden red spacer. You probably have the correct configuration inside the head tube, but reasonable to ask LBS to check if you are creaking.

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    Hi folks! i was with service guys today. what i do have now. I have only 2 black outer exposed spacers (i took away the outer red one!), I have 1 special red inner hidden spacer on the bottom and 2 black inner spacers. Is it ok?

    Also I had no rubber O-ring on the bottom of the steerer. May it was forgotten to put on or may be it was fallen away. We tried to use rubber O-ring that goes with computer mounter, firstly it looked ok, but when we torqued 12 nm with shimano tool, this O-ring was .. how to say.. "forced out" (?).. and we tried to use some surrogate made from I even dont know..

    So I have 2 question:

    1. That RED outer exposed spacer - red - it was just some sort of design, or it should be there ?

    2. what kind of special O-ring do I need to use on the bottom of the steer?


    Those rattling sounds have gone away (for now at least) but I do have some creaking sounds instead.. not very annoying but at least.. like you know a saddle some times have such sound issues

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    I have only 2 black outer exposed spacers (i took away the outer red one!), I have 1 special red inner hidden spacer on the bottom and 2 black inner spacers. Is it ok? - Yes! But this is three questions, not two.

    1. That RED outer exposed spacer - red - it was just some sort of design, or it should be there ? - Yes! It is OK to remove this red spacer. No problem. (They should have made the special hidden inner RED spacer a different color, orange perhaps, to avoid confusion with this red exposed outer spacer. Only the hidden red spacer is essential.

    2. what kind of special O-ring do I need to use on the bottom of the steer? - I don't know! I think you are good to go, but I'll check next week when I swap from a -15 degree OPI stem to a -5 degree stem.

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    Scott, I would appreciate it if you check that O-ring next week and update here =)

    Thanx for your replies )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    Hi folks! i was with service guys today. what i do have now. I have only 2 black outer exposed spacers (i took away the outer red one!), I have 1 special red inner hidden spacer on the bottom and 2 black inner spacers. Is it ok?

    Also I had no rubber O-ring on the bottom of the steerer. May it was forgotten to put on or may be it was fallen away. We tried to use rubber O-ring that goes with computer mounter, firstly it looked ok, but when we torqued 12 nm with shimano tool, this O-ring was .. how to say.. "forced out" (?).. and we tried to use some surrogate made from I even dont know..

    So I have 2 question:

    1. That RED outer exposed spacer - red - it was just some sort of design, or it should be there ?

    2. what kind of special O-ring do I need to use on the bottom of the steer?


    Those rattling sounds have gone away (for now at least) but I do have some creaking sounds instead.. not very annoying but at least.. like you know a saddle some times have such sound issues
    You have a correct spacer set-up. None of the outer spacers are mandatory - they simply allow you to adjust the height of the stem. The red outer specer is no different than the black ones. You can run none, or up to 3 of them, regardless of color.


    You need the O-ring to snug everything up. Go to or call Cannondaleexperts.com for the part.
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    I have a '12 Scalpel carbon 1 and the creaking is unbearable when I'm hammering uphill and alternating heavy torque on the bars. My LBS replaced the stem (to a taller one, much to my annoyance) and the issue came back quickly. I'll be watching this thread closely.

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    Stumpjumpy, thanx for the reply. I get about the inner and outer spacers )

    I cannot find out, should it be a special o-ring.. we tried the usual one with similar size (i guess) but under 12nm torque pressure it was forced out. May be this o-ring should have a kind of flat form so it would stay at place under pressure.. or maybe i should use an o-ring with smaller size.. bit I took the smallest I had..

    http://icimg.com/kh058doc.jpg Could you please take a look at the text description to this scheme, number 13 - is there anything about an O-ring ?

    We used something that makes creaking sounds, i'd like to swap it to some rubber material to keep it quiet.

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    Yeah, it's a rubber o-ring with an aprox 2mm round cross section. It is slightly compressed when the assembly is trq'ed to spec.
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    I checked my steerer. I have the V2. Creaks like a mother-f'er. I guess I'll wait until a real fix comes out.

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    Quentin, do you have a rubber o-ring on the bottom side of the steerer?

    #13 on this scheme http://icimg.com/kh058doc.jpg

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    Sunny, here are photos of the o-ring you are asking about. It is not pliable rubber, but semi-hard. Dimensions are ~44mm OD, ~41mm ID, and shaped like a thin bagel sliced in half (ie flat on one side and domes on the other). It is about 1mm "tall" at the top of the dome. I'd send you this one but it was cut when I received it on a trade.

    You could probably find something close at Home Depot but I'm sure Cannondale will send you one. LBS may have one since it seems like the o-ring is included with aftermarket stems, and that would be extra to the o-ring already installed.

    I'll doublecheck which side faces up (the domed side or the flat side) when I swap my minus-15 degree for this minus-5 degree stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin View Post
    I have a '12 Scalpel carbon 1 and the creaking is unbearable when I'm hammering uphill and alternating heavy torque on the bars. My LBS replaced the stem (to a taller one, much to my annoyance) and the issue came back quickly. I'll be watching this thread closely.
    Quentin, I am pulling brand spankin' new 110mm, minus-15 OPI stem off of my 2013 F-29. I'd trade you my minus-15 for your "taller one" if you are interested. I'd swap just the top part (the actual stem) and leave your new steerer column (and hardware) and mine with our bikes. My minus-15 will be an extra so I'd mail first. No hurry, I'll PM you with some photos if you are interested.

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    Scott, thanx very much for so detailed reply!

    Just to be sure, this is an o-ring #13 from the scheme http://icimg.com/kh058doc.jpg, not the #3 ?

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    Yes, I am 90 percent certain it is #13. The extra stem I have also has a very thin #3 o-ring. I'll double check when I install but I am pretty sure.

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    I just had the new v2 OPI steerer installed, along with a new stem that came
    with it, on my brand new Scalpel Carbon 2, but it didn't help the creaking at
    all :-( I'll disassemble the front end again and relube everything, hoping for
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott In MD View Post
    Quentin, I am pulling brand spankin' new 110mm, minus-15 OPI stem off of my 2013 F-29. I'd trade you my minus-15 for your "taller one" if you are interested. I'd swap just the top part (the actual stem) and leave your new steerer column (and hardware) and mine with our bikes. My minus-15 will be an extra so I'd mail first. No hurry, I'll PM you with some photos if you are interested.
    My stem is 90mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott In MD View Post
    Sunny, here are photos of the o-ring you are asking about. It is not pliable rubber, but semi-hard. Dimensions are ~44mm OD, ~41mm ID, and shaped like a thin bagel sliced in half (ie flat on one side and domes on the other). It is about 1mm "tall" at the top of the dome. I'd send you this one but it was cut when I received it on a trade.

    You could probably find something close at Home Depot but I'm sure Cannondale will send you one. LBS may have one since it seems like the o-ring is included with aftermarket stems, and that would be extra to the o-ring already installed.

    I'll doublecheck which side faces up (the domed side or the flat side) when I swap my minus-15 degree for this minus-5 degree stem.

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    You posted a pic of the V1 set up.
    The V2 uses a different part - instead of the flat plastic washer, it uses a rubber O-ring.
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    Stumpjumpy, thanx for your reply. Do you know the dimensions of this O-ring? or how it looks like ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    Stumpjumpy, thanx for your reply. Do you know the dimensions of this O-ring? or how it looks like ?
    Don't know the dimensions. The ring is depicted in some of the pics in this thread.

    Again, I would contact the good folks at cannondaleexperts.com for the o-ring.
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    V2 OPI steerer installed on my 2012 Scalpel 1 today.
    After a night right, no more creaking

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannonguy View Post
    V2 OPI steerer installed on my 2012 Scalpel 1 today.
    After a night right, no more creaking
    Good news! Any other positive feedback after installing MK2?
    Currently waiting to receive my MK2 for the scalpel29.
    Went for a ride yesterday, and usually this creaking OPI drives me mad, but it wasn't that bad yesterday, looks like the temperature might come into play, it was very hot yesterday.
    But still! creaking a little or a lot isn't acceptable!

    Hope MK2 Opi will be the solution!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak6767 View Post
    Good news! Any other positive feedback after installing MK2?
    Currently waiting to receive my MK2 for the scalpel29.
    Went for a ride yesterday, and usually this creaking OPI drives me mad, but it wasn't that bad yesterday, looks like the temperature might come into play, it was very hot yesterday.
    But still! creaking a little or a lot isn't acceptable!

    Hope MK2 Opi will be the solution!
    Funny that u mention the temp. Mine first started creaking when I arrived in Jamaica for a bike trip. The very first test ride around the hotel parking lot and the thing started sounding off in embarassing fashion. Had never heard it before. It later came and went and then ultimately settled in as the constant soundtrack to my riding.

    My V2 has remained silent for the past 6 rides or so. And zero perceivable flex/pivot.
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    Mine started creaking in the cold back in January when the temps were down in the 40s. Still creaks in 85 degree F weather. I know he changed my stem up top, but I'll have to check to see if the bottom end is assembled correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    Quentin, do you have a rubber o-ring on the bottom side of the steerer?

    #13 on this scheme http://icimg.com/kh058doc.jpg
    I do have the rubber seal, but it seems squeezed out. I might disassemble and reassemble.

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    I got one a few weeks back ... solved the creaking problem 100% Have ridden my Flash 5x more than I did previously.

    Now to just fix my Hollowgram creak!

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    Great news! Lets hope it solves the problem for everyone!
    OPI MKII wont be available until begining of July in France unfortunately... looks like Cannondale France is always behind lately (shipping bikes to shop, part, after sale service, stocks....)

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    MK2 installed on my Scalpel29, so far so good!
    I got used to the noise so much lately, that it felt weird at first!
    High tempreature here, so I'll keep on an eye on how it settles in (grease, the new opi mk2, etc) and see how long it last.....!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_12 View Post
    does anyone have a text description for this scheme : http://icimg.com/kh058doc.jpg ?
    Here you go:
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    Have not been putting in that many miles this summer because of all the rainy days. But my v2 has started to "click" once or twice during the first 5 min of a ride - then it remains silent. Hopefully this is as bad as it gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumpy View Post
    Have not been putting in that many miles this summer because of all the rainy days. But my v2 has started to "click" once or twice during the first 5 min of a ride - then it remains silent. Hopefully this is as bad as it gets.
    Make sure you give it some coffee to wake up before you ride and your problem will be solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timbat View Post
    I got one a few weeks back ... solved the creaking problem 100% Have ridden my Flash 5x more than I did previously.

    Now to just fix my Hollowgram creak!
    ha ha - bingo! Been using the API stem for a while and it's great, completely solves the movement / creak.

    Can't figure out what's creaking in the Hollowgram though (2x10 XX 26/39 setup) it creaks the same in either front ring, so I reckon it's either the spider moving slightly under pressure or the bearings moving in the BB shell. (Bearings are in good shape). Anyone tried locktite on the bearing outers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimification View Post
    ha ha - bingo! Been using the API stem for a while and it's great, completely solves the movement / creak.

    Can't figure out what's creaking in the Hollowgram though (2x10 XX 26/39 setup) it creaks the same in either front ring, so I reckon it's either the spider moving slightly under pressure or the bearings moving in the BB shell. (Bearings are in good shape). Anyone tried locktite on the bearing outers?
    I had a creak from the lower part of my Rize recently too. It was maddening and I cleaned and greased the whole Hollowgram system multiple times. We (me by process of elimination, my LBS by finally taking it apart) found that the spider interface to the crank was a bit loose. We saw evidence of movement and some wearing on the teeth, so we added some JB Weld and put it back together tight. No more creak.

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    That's too bad it has to say MK2. I think mine says R11 134 in white letters. I just bought the 2013 F29 1 about 2 months ago and was hoping that maybe they shipped it with a V2 since they shipped it with Magura MT2's (like the best 2014 alloy model), originally it was supposed to have Shimano brakes. Oh well... no creaks yet... just some from the BB30 if I'm really climbing hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roglie View Post
    That's too bad it has to say MK2. I think mine says R11 134 in white letters. I just bought the 2013 F29 1 about 2 months ago and was hoping that maybe they shipped it with a V2 since they shipped it with Magura MT2's (like the best 2014 alloy model), originally it was supposed to have Shimano brakes. Oh well... no creaks yet... just some from the BB30 if I'm really climbing hard.
    FinishLine gold anti seize on the internal threads and torqued back to spec and my problem went away.
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    Thanks for the suggestion ziscwg. I read just about every thread here on the various creaking issues and I'll either settle for the anti-seize or teflon tape; both appear to do the trick. I'll definitely get my LBS to do that if it gets worse.

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    I recently bought a new steerer on eBay from Infinite Cycles and it is MK2. I believe I got it for around $40.00 new. Just passing along the good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jschoef View Post
    I recently bought a new steerer on eBay from Infinite Cycles and it is MK2. I believe I got it for around $40.00 new. Just passing along the good deal.
    Infinite Cycles and TheCannondaleExperts are the same company from CO IIRC. They have many Cannondale parts and great service.

    The "upgrade" used to be $70 it's now $40. I have to wonder if Cdale heard too many balk at the price and lowered it. It's a fix to an immature design, so CDale raking us for it initially sucks.
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    Only steerer ?

    Do I need only the steerer or also a new stem to solve those issues I have on my scalpel ?

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    Just the steerer worked for me. Think it is a KH078 model number.

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    Bikewagon has these for 13 bucks (eBay item number:370988044925
    ) without the spacers...
    Any idea where I could find some spacers, or this isn't such a great deal after all?

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    Those steerers from Bikewagon are not the V2; they are the original version steerers.

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    Reading this thread has been very informative. I think I now know why my 2013 Scalpel did not ship with the OPI, but with the old style steer tube. Should I bother hitting up my LBS for the OPI? Is it worth the effort now that a Version 2.0 fix has been made? Or should I just stay with the old style XC3?

    I guess what I'm asking is what is the advantage to the OPI over the old style?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssorange View Post
    Reading this thread has been very informative. I think I now know why my 2013 Scalpel did not ship with the OPI, but with the old style steer tube. Should I bother hitting up my LBS for the OPI? Is it worth the effort now that a Version 2.0 fix has been made? Or should I just stay with the v1?

    I guess what I'm asking is what is the advantage to the OPI over the old style?

    Thanks!
    I'm curious about this too. Not that it matter to me that much since I have the MK2 version on my XL F29 Carbon 3. The thing I don't like is the stem selection is non-existent and too damn expensive for what there is. I'd like to swap out for a 90mm stem but I don't want to pay $90 for a stupid stem either. Anyone want to swap a 110mm stem for a 90mm?
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    I heard almost all the time some creaking from my front part of my F29 Carbon 1 2013 bike but I never knew what was the source. Now seeing this topic I checked my steerer and it says "RK1 134". Does dis means is V1 , not V2 (MK2) ?

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