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    Smile Trigger 29er 1 in the house!

    I just received my 2013 Trigger 29er 1 from Bethel Cycle in Bethel CT. It weighs 32 lbs out of the box with inner tubes for an XL. I'm not worried about the weight since my Scalpel 29er is sub 24 with Enve wheels. The Trigger is going to be my play bike. The new Super Lefty looks cool and as an added bonus it has XT shifters, as opposed to spec on Cannondale web page. I was hoping to ride in the AM but it is snowing like crazy here.
    If you live in the area Sean's Trigger is also in the shop and they have Trigger 29er 2 on the floor.
    If by some miracle I can sneak a ride in I will post some first impressions. Also, keep an eye on Bethel Cycles Facebook page since I'm sure Sean will be riding his pretty soon. Should be a good comparison since we both have many miles on SF100, Rumblefish and Scalpel 29er.

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    Photos or it didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    photos or it didn't happen.
    my thoughts exactly!

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    Bikes are pictured on Bethel Cycles Facebook page. I'm going hiking,riding in 4" of wet, heavy nasty snow. Not much of a test ride but better than nuttin'. Bike built up nice and I kept it all stock for now. I have a chain guard coming from eThirteen and I will convert it to 1x10. My plan was to change out the wheels BUT the Lefty hub on the Super Lefty is wider so rotor will not align with a regular Lefty wheel. Not a huge deal since the rotor can be spaced out with washers and longer screws. It would be cleaner if Cannondale offered a spacer kit.
    The driveway test felt good so I'm pretty excited to get it out on the trail. Yes, I will post a picture later.

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    As expected, miserable conditions to MTB. So this is by no means a proper test. Trigger 29er out of the box fits me well and I felt comfortable. Pretty easy switch since I regularly ride a an XL Scalpel 29er. Stiffness of the Trigger and Lefty Max is great, just like the Scalpel.
    I set up the bike according to the Cannondale iphone app and bike felt good. Obviously in proper conditions I have to play around with pressures and rebound. Again, this not being an appropriate test my initial impression is: stiffer and quicker accelerating than a Rumblefish, not as smooth though. This is probably all subject to tuning but I also had a few unexpected pedal strikes. To nit pick, a remote lever for dropper post was not included and it would have been nice with an O ring on Lefty to measure sag and travel used.
    Unfortunately I'm traveling for a while so bike will have to wait. However, I'm excited and I feel confident I will love this bike. While I'm a way Scott at Bethel Cycle promises to take care of the Trigger for me. Sorry about no pictures, can't get iPhone pictures to load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulcraft29er View Post
    As expected, miserable conditions to MTB. So this is by no means a proper test. Trigger 29er out of the box fits me well and I felt comfortable. Pretty easy switch since I regularly ride a an XL Scalpel 29er. Stiffness of the Trigger and Lefty Max is great, just like the Scalpel.
    I set up the bike according to the Cannondale iphone app and bike felt good. Obviously in proper conditions I have to play around with pressures and rebound. Again, this not being an appropriate test my initial impression is: stiffer and quicker accelerating than a Rumblefish, not as smooth though. This is probably all subject to tuning but I also had a few unexpected pedal strikes. To nit pick, a remote lever for dropper post was not included and it would have been nice with an O ring on Lefty to measure sag and travel used.
    Unfortunately I'm traveling for a while so bike will have to wait. However, I'm excited and I feel confident I will love this bike. While I'm a way Scott at Bethel Cycle promises to take care of the Trigger for me. Sorry about no pictures, can't get iPhone pictures to load.
    Did it come with Crests or Arches?

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    Crest Rims with XT rear hub. Lefty wide flange front hub They also included tubeless valves. Hans Dampf tires sealed up easily with just a floor pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulcraft29er View Post
    Crest Rims with XT rear hub. Lefty wide flange front hub They also included tubeless valves. Hans Dampf tires sealed up easily with just a floor pump.
    To improve the plushness of the dyad shock go two levels down in pressure below your weight as per the user manual. This is what Mark Weir does on his jykall. Try that and let us know how it handles.

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    Thank you Tedd. I will try. Lots of snow so it may be a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulcraft29er View Post
    Thank you Tedd. I will try. Lots of snow so it may be a while.
    MyXL trigger 29er 1 shows up tomorrow, but we also have lots of snow here in Colorado. I will post my impressions once I get a chance to ride it, but I also suspect it will be a few weeks.

    What is your height and weight and what psi are you running in the front fork? Also what psi in the rear shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulcraft29er View Post
    Crest Rims with XT rear hub. Lefty wide flange front hub They also included tubeless valves. Hans Dampf tires sealed up easily with just a floor pump.
    Are those tires that came on it the pace star 'evolution' line (the better,$$er ones)?

    Sucks about the lack of dropper remote. This does confirm almost every other photo I've seen of the bike without one however.

    Is that weight with pedals?

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    I wonder if this means mine will be here soon. I ordered an XL and was told December 28th...

    Still disappointed it has Crests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    Photos or it didn't happen.
    Rules of the internet.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    I agree that a bike like this should have Flow rims, not Crest. I use a Flow wheel set on my Scalpel 29er for everyday beating and like them.

    The bike weighed 32lbs with pedals and tubes. My plan is to go 1x10 and tubeless, will weigh it again when done.

    I am 6'2" and 180 lbs. I set the bike up according to Cannondales iPad app. Super Max Lefty 67 psi, Dyad 340pos and 286neg. I usually set up my bikes with recommended sag but didn't do so this time. I will do that for my next ride, when the snow melts.

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    Yes, I didn't change tires. 32 lbs with pedals and NO remote (bummer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulcraft29er View Post
    I agree that a bike like this should have Flow rims, not Crest. I use a Flow wheel set on my Scalpel 29er for everyday beating and like them.

    The bike weighed 32lbs with pedals and tubes. My plan is to go 1x10 and tubeless, will weigh it again when done.

    I am 6'2" and 180 lbs. I set the bike up according to Cannondales iPad app. Super Max Lefty 67 psi, Dyad 340pos and 286neg. I usually set up my bikes with recommended sag but didn't do so this time. I will do that for my next ride, when the snow melts.
    Thanks for the info. I am 6'4" 180 so our setup should be the same. Once I get my bike I will work on the setup and let you know what I find. I am really sensitive to a the correct setup.

    I would drop the front pressure and also speed up the rebound and see if it feels more plush. The DYAD will take some tinkering to get right, but I would set it up as if you were a 165-170 pounds and see how it feels.

    I agree, the crests were a bad idea for a AM bike!

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    Soulcraft,
    Cannondale has an alternate brake adapter that is made to work with a standard lefty hub. If you get one of those you don't have to deal with ugly rotor spacing.

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    Thanks. That's awesome, putting on my Flow wheels or maybe play around with my Enve wheel set and see how bike feels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    Photos or it didn't happen.
    Here are pics of my XL.

    XL 2013 Cannondale Trigger 29er 1 just built never ridden - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories

    I have owned for less than 24 hours and it is just too small for me. Total bummer, because this is a sick bike!!

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    My Trigger 2 is in

    I ordered in Aug, and my LBS called today to say the bike arrived and is prepped and ready to go.

    One word of caution for those also awaiting their Triggers: When giving the bike the once-over, my LBS noticed that the rear brake housing was too short, Says it's still rideable but wants to be on the safe side, so is securing a replacement from C'dale. .

    I'll post up pics when I've picked it up next week.

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    Soulcraft, I'm in Fairfield County area as well and have early Feb delivery for my Trigger 1 (although was told end of Jan). Should be an interesting rig though the lack of remote is a bit of a PITA.

    My money is the Crests don't last proper tech/stuntery (i.e. Wilton Woods & Millers Pond), I'm guessing I re-lace to flows within first 10 rides.

    Your shock should take some time to break-in, unless you take it on a proper DH run or two, it should be about 2-5 rides before its properly bedded in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuckingfuts2 View Post
    MyXL trigger 29er 1 shows up tomorrow, but we also have lots of snow here in Colorado. I will post my impressions once I get a chance to ride it, but I also suspect it will be a few weeks.

    What is your height and weight and what psi are you running in the front fork? Also what psi in the rear shock?

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    I don't get it. You sold an XL Trigger because it is too small to buy another XL Trigger. I must have something wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet View Post
    I don't get it. You sold an XL Trigger because it is too small to buy another XL Trigger. I must have something wrong.
    He sold it last week, I believe. I don't think he's saying he bought another one.

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    Thanks, I'm ready to get out and play. Just need the snow to melt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrenalnjunky View Post
    He sold it last week, I believe. I don't think he's saying he bought another one.
    I came into this conversation late and post #5 says he's selling his XL Trigger and post #14 says he's waiting for a new one. Very confusing!

    Anyway, it sucks when you can't find a bike long enough and no XLs will fit. This is actually a pretty good sized XL - not like Ibis or a lot of the other makers. Even Specialized has gotten rid of their XXL 29er and Trek has reduced the size of their 23" 29ers. It's a no win for tall riders this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet View Post
    I came into this conversation late and post #5 says he's selling his XL Trigger and post #14 says he's waiting for a new one. Very confusing!

    Anyway, it sucks when you can't find a bike long enough and no XLs will fit. This is actually a pretty good sized XL - not like Ibis or a lot of the other makers. Even Specialized has gotten rid of their XXL 29er and Trek has reduced the size of their 23" 29ers. It's a no win for tall riders this year.
    Sorry for the confusion. I did not sell an xl trigger 29er and then buy another xl trigger 29er. I bought an XXL tallboy LTc and its a much better fit for my lanky build. The XXL Tallboy LTC's were just recently released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuckingfuts2 View Post
    Sorry for the confusion. I did not sell an xl trigger 29er and then buy another xl trigger 29er. I bought an XXL tallboy LTc and its a much better fit for my lanky build. The XXL Tallboy LTC's were just recently released.
    I'm actually surprised the TB LT would be any longer than the Trigger seeing as the TT length is only 0.2" longer along with the fact that the ST angle is slacker....which as anyone who knows their geometry can tell you equates to a reduced TT as compared to a bike with a steeper ST angle......unless you don't care about saddle fore-aft position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet View Post
    I came into this conversation late and post #5 says he's selling his XL Trigger and post #14 says he's waiting for a new one. Very confusing!

    Anyway, it sucks when you can't find a bike long enough and no XLs will fit. This is actually a pretty good sized XL - not like Ibis or a lot of the other makers. Even Specialized has gotten rid of their XXL 29er and Trek has reduced the size of their 23" 29ers. It's a no win for tall riders this year.
    So it's not just me! The posts show up out of order, if you look at when they were posted and not the number you'll see this, very confusing sometimes.

    Still waiting for my Trigger

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet View Post
    I'm actually surprised the TB LT would be any longer than the Trigger seeing as the TT length is only 0.2" longer along with the fact that the ST angle is slacker....which as anyone who knows their geometry can tell you equates to a reduced TT as compared to a bike with a steeper ST angle......unless you don't care about saddle fore-aft position.
    Seat tube is 1 degree slacker on the LTC which equates to a larger cockpit, not shorter?? I think you have it backwards? There is way more room in the LTC cockpit then the trigger. I owned both and there is quite a difference. Granted the trigger had a 50mm stem and my LTC has a 65mm.

    One other majaor differnce one is 27 pounds and the other is 32 pounds...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALS650L View Post
    So it's not just me! The posts show up out of order, if you look at when they were posted and not the number you'll see this, very confusing sometimes.

    Still waiting for my Trigger
    you guys have the "Display Mode" for the forum set to "Hybrid" instead of "Linear"

    hybrid tries to follow the conversation, based on who quoted who and such, like following sub-conversations.

    Linear mode puts everything in the order that it was posted basedonly on date/time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuckingfuts2 View Post
    Seat tube is 1 degree slacker on the LTC which equates to a larger cockpit, not shorter?? I think you have it backwards? There is way more room in the LTC cockpit then the trigger. I owned both and there is quite a difference. Granted the trigger had a 50mm stem and my LTC has a 65mm.

    One other majaor differnce one is 27 pounds and the other is 32 pounds...........
    Yea, weight is a major difference.

    I understand about geometry NF - I teach it. What I am refering to is that to get the same saddle position with a slacker seat tube, you have to move the saddle forward so in effect you loose TT length. For instance, on my Tallboy, because the ST is so slack, I have to use a straight seat post and I have the saddle a little forward in the seat post clamp to get my saddle in the correct position in relation to the BB for optimal power. If saddle fore/aft isn't a concern of yours, you could have always used a set back post and/or put the saddle back in the clamp on the Trigger and gotten the same effect as the slack seattube angle of the TB LT. Looking at the numbers, the Trigger 29 has one of the longest production cockpits for 2013. Keep in mind that I am not talking about TT length which is meaningless without considering ST angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet View Post
    Yea, weight is a major difference.

    I understand about geometry NF - I teach it. What I am refering to is that to get the same saddle position with a slacker seat tube, you have to move the saddle forward so in effect you loose TT length. For instance, on my Tallboy, because the ST is so slack, I have to use a straight seat post and I have the saddle a little forward in the seat post clamp to get my saddle in the correct position in relation to the BB for optimal power. If saddle fore/aft isn't a concern of yours, you could have always used a set back post and/or put the saddle back in the clamp on the Trigger and gotten the same effect as the slack seattube angle of the TB LT. Looking at the numbers, the Trigger 29 has one of the longest production cockpits for 2013. Keep in mind that I am not talking about TT length which is meaningless without considering ST angle.
    Got it. I misunderstood your comment about fore aft on the seat. The whole reason I jumped on the trigger 29 1 was because of the 25.7" TT, which is very long, but as you say you need to look at more than the TT angle.

    Also, I wanted a slacker HT angle so I put the Cane Creek Angleset on the TB LTc and slacked the bike out to 68.5. All and all I just find the total package of lighter weight, Slacker HT angle, bigger cockpit (yes, I get your point) and 10mm more travel up front(fox 34 140mm) make for a better allround bike for me. I certainly could have made the Trigger work, but running a 80-90mm stem on trail bike with a HT angle of 69.5 degrees didn't appeal to me. Not to mention the headtube is .6" shorter on the TB Ltc then the Trigger 29er. I run zero spacers under the stem. My bar height on the TB Ltc is a hair lower then the trigger and i am running 10mm more travel up front with the fox. I totally see your point, but with the trigger I just wasnt loving it.....
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    I'm thinking of buying a trigger 29er. Let me know your thoughts. Looks like a great bike. Sunday should be a great day to ride.

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    Trigger 2 is in!!

    I just picked mine up yesterday, so haven't had any trail time yet. I have set it up for my weight now (shock and fork) and have fine tuned the cockpit position. What I can tell you so far is:

    1) for the XL I bought (I'm 6' 3", 34" inseam, and proportionally long trunk) I found the stem (80mm) 20mm too short, bars (minimal rise) 30mm too low, and seat post (350mm) was 50mm too short (the 350 was at the max extension for where I wanted the saddle). In addition the seat post didn't give me enought saddle set back. Keep this in mind given the discussion above about cockpit. Be sure to have your LBS help you with swapping stuff out. My LBS swapped out the post for a layback 400mm, a 100 mm stem and a 40mm riser bar (currently white, going to pick up a black one).

    2) Compared to my prior FS 29er (Ventana El Rey) it feels WAY more relaxed, which is what I was looking for for the technical east coast trails I ride.

    3) It was SUPER easy to set up the shock and fork, and the rebound adjust is easy to read and reach.

    4) Standover clearance is insane! perfect for tech rides.

    5) It is so freakin sexy!!! Looks much better in person, too

    6) 32lbs with Time ATAC pedals

    I'll report back after my first ride.






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    That is a sweet bike! But these weights are not making sense to me. I'm not even sure where all the extra weight is in these bikes but how does a Trigger 1 and Trigger 2 weigh the same? Does the dropper post offset what is saved with the Lefty?

    I'm really considering the Trigger for my next bike. But man, I can't decide between the 1 and 2. If Cannondale just would have made the Trigger 2 with the Lefty, I would be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D_K View Post
    That is a sweet bike! But these weights are not making sense to me. I'm not even sure where all the extra weight is in these bikes but how does a Trigger 1 and Trigger 2 weigh the same? Does the dropper post offset what is saved with the Lefty?
    My guess is it is entirely due to the dropper post. The difference in spec build between the 1 and 2, aside from the lefty, is pretty small both in weight and quality. One thing in fact, the i23 rims should have been on the Trigger 29er 1.

    Ditch the dropper post and get some lighter tires run tubeless, switch to 1x10, and take out 3 disc rotor bolts front and rear and you'd get the weight down a little closer to 29 lbs I'd bet, maybe a touch lower.

    But if you bought a Trigger 29er, you certainly didn't do so for the weight. In which case, keep the dropper, and rock those awesome tires (still go 1x10 though). An extra pound or two unsprung weight for 180 lb trail rider with a hydration pack and gear means nothing.

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    Speaking of tires - you guys who have your Trigger's, can you comment if those Hans Dampf are the softer (gripper) TrailStar or the harder (faster) PaceStar models?

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    Quote Originally Posted by runbaileyrun View Post
    An extra pound or two unsprung weight for 180 lb trail rider with a hydration pack and gear means nothing.
    I can only hope that I weigh that much with all of my gear on. For being a 6'1" guy that hits the gym all the time, I can barely keep my weight over 150lbs.

    Getting back on subject, let's hear some more ride reports!

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    Quote Originally Posted by runbaileyrun View Post
    Speaking of tires - you guys who have your Trigger's, can you comment if those Hans Dampf are the softer (gripper) TrailStar or the harder (faster) PaceStar models?
    That's a good question. I checked mine. The front is a TrailStar, and the rear is a PaceStar. Not sure if that's intentional, but there you have it. I guess if you had to split them, makes sense to have the grippier one in the front for better cornering control.

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    Interesting. Almost sounds like that was thought out in advance by Cannondale. I'd run them that way too, for better tracking up front, and better durability/wear in the rear (even the Pace Star line Hans Dampf is exceptional for traction).

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    I'm still waiting for my Trigger 1. I've never run a dropper post. I'm going to try it, if I'm not into it it's a good place to loose some weight. I wasn't really concerned about weight either, if I was I would have waited for the carbon one coming out next year supposedly. I am concerned they seem to be coming with crests, that's gonna be an issue for me at 200lbs.

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    Trigger 29er

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    I'm 5'4: with a 27" inseam. I like the trigger 29er because standover and top tube length similar to Rush 7 that I currently ride. Looking forward to hear how it performs in action.


    mike

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