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    Thrashing the 2013 Cannondale F29 Carbon 3.

    How hard do you guys beat up your carbon Flash? The most rocky terrain mine has seen has been French Creek, PA. It felt fine going through those rock gardens. The rest of it's time has been spent in Fair Hill, MD and White Clay/Middle Run in DE.

    It's my first carbon frame. Should I always look for the clean lines or is it okay to take the alternate lines as well? I'm a 220lb rider. Thanks. I beat the crap out of my aluminium GT Zaskar 9r without regard but from what I've read, it seems the Flash requires a more gentle approach? Set me straight, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    How hard do you guys beat up your carbon Flash? The most rocky terrain mine has seen has been French Creek, PA. It felt fine going through those rock gardens. The rest of it's time has been spent in Fair Hill, MD and White Clay/Middle Run in DE.

    It's my first carbon frame. Should I always look for the clean lines or is it okay to take the alternate lines as well? I'm a 220lb rider. Thanks. I beat the crap out of my aluminium GT Zaskar 9r without regard but from what I've read, it seems the Flash requires a more gentle approach? Set me straight, please.
    Hi, can`t talk for the Flash but I have a 2008 Cannondale Taurine Carbon frame which I cannot break - the harder and rougher you go the better it feels and apart from many scratches and marks its fine. Each mark tells a story. In fact I managed to break an alu frame before (non Cannondale) and many wheelsets but not the Taurine.
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    Thank you all for your responses. I plan on beating it up like I don't like it.

    The last post... I get what you are addressing, thank you. But you aren't addressing my question.

    But, in regards to what you have mentioned, well, there were some compromises made in the components but It's not all bad. The 13 comes with wtb i19 wheels. They are pretty stiff and they track well. The brakes are decent but I do prefer formula. The derailleurs aren't top of the line but they do the job. The XT rd has a clutch, that is an upgrade. The slx shifters, well, they perform satisfactorily. The thing is, the new lefty is on it. Time will tell if it's an upgrade. So far, it kicks A$s.

    SL cranks, trivativ carbon bar, time pedals, SAVE post (soon), and Arch EX wheels are on this bike already.

    So, the question isn't how to build it. The question is how hard can I go before all these components sit on top of a pile of broken carbon. In other words, how aggressively have you ridden your flash before it broke (frame failure)... If at all. And what kind of terrain.
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    Ride it like you stole it. If I breaks then its not fit for purpose.

    Obviously keep it XC, don't start downhilling on it.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Define DH?!

    Your advice may be too late.
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    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    I did that multiplied by a factor of 0.00001. I think I'm safe. Thanks.
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    ballistec carbon frame.

    i do believe that means it is bullet proof.

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    One would like to think so.
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    I love watching that amazing run. The commentators are nutz!

    A carbon frame SHOULD be stronger than its AL counterpart in terms of the loads it can handle from jumps, etc. Rock impacts and deep gouges that would dent AL can cause cracks in CF, however.

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    Roger, wilco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    Roger, wilco.
    I've been raggin my bike about for te last 18 months. No reason to believe the frame isn't strong enough. I've had rocks and stuff flick up at it and not a scratch..
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostN7 View Post
    I've been raggin my bike about for te last 18 months. No reason to believe the frame isn't strong enough. I've had rocks and stuff flick up at it and not a scratch..
    Thanks. I'm not too concerned with big crashes. Those trash AL frames as much as Carbon. I was mostly concerned with stuff flicking up and hitting the downtube or BB. I'm 220lbs and I ride aggressively. Thanks for the input.
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    Good to know about the F29 carbon as that was one of my main concerns was how well it held up to abuse. I still think I want a scalpel though.

    How's the carbon do on your back after a long ride?
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    Only legs are sore after a ride. The F29 Carbon 3 is an amazing all day machine. I did upgrade to a carbon bar immediately after purchase.

    I've put in 36, 55, and 63 mile trips on it. My Al GT, however, would have me begging for a Novocaine bath.
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    I'd say if you ride MR/WC or FH most of the time then you are good to go.

    I ride BW all the time and chose aluminum. I've always been nervous of cracking a chainstay/seatstay from a tumble in the rocks.

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    Fellow local! I'm not exactly afraid of breaking the frame. I was just wondering what people have found, through field tests, to be the limits of the frame. We have locals riding carbon race bikes in BW and other more chunky places without regard. I just wanted to make sure that it's okay to do that with the Flash.

    I've ridden BW on my GT Zaskar. I think that although it gets chunky in some spots the Flash will be safe there. Thanks for the feedback.

    The F29 is my race bike so it's got to be able to handle Rattling Creek, French Creek, Patapsco, Fair Hill, Marsh Creek, and Bear Creek. Damn it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumpy View Post
    I love watching that amazing run. The commentators are nutz!

    A carbon frame SHOULD be stronger than its AL counterpart in terms of the loads it can handle from jumps, etc. Rock impacts and deep gouges that would dent AL can cause cracks in CF, however.

    Ride that ****, Leoferus!
    You were there for it this weekend. Cool riding with you. I'm still a bit cautious but I put her on the rocks and dropped the hammer on the cart path on the way down. The bike can take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    You were there for it this weekend. Cool riding with you. I'm still a bit cautious but I put her on the rocks and dropped the hammer on the cart path on the way down. The bike can take it.
    Yeah, man - was big fun!

    I would not worry about your bike's ability to handle what you dish out, at all.
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    Damn dude, sounds like I don't ride hard enough!

    We'll fix that next time you come out.

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    LOL! Not at all what I was trying to convey!

    You were torture testing it.

    I just believe carbon is VERY stout stuff when executed properly.
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    I seem to be the same 2012 29F C3, we have category 1-3 climbs and it gets both muddy and messy so I daren't go in the bad weather. However, for XC trails it's a blast. I go quicker than my friends & feel adrenalinised. It's a great bike, all I changed was the seat post to SAVE. Very positive comfort difference and my seat to selle italia.

    I think I could be harder too but it's probably more to do with care not to spill my guts.

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    Wallstreet, the flash does give you more confidence than your skills can handle. I've taken two wheel slides a bit too far a few times already. Luckily, it is very forgiving. Push it. It will reward you.
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    It seems with all the rain, then snow to follow, I will only find out in the New Year thaw. I look forward to more thrashing long days.

    The turning cycle slows me down on harder tighter trail turns. Otherwise no real negatives. It's a sweet 'rare' bike in my parts.

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    Leoferos: any pics?

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    I've been busy riding and I have not taken any pictures. I'll change that this week.


    This is the F29 Carbon 3. Fully stock.


    A shot of the Hollowgram cranks.
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    Very nice bike. The F29 3 is on my short list for next seasons race bike. How are those stock wheels?
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    Do you put any protection on those chainstays? If so, what are you using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Possum Jones View Post
    Very nice bike. The F29 3 is on my short list for next seasons race bike. How are those stock wheels?

    On the 2012 model that I have they are weighty but strong. It's a clear place for improvement.

    Assuming its the same on his 2013.

    (no protection on the chain stay)

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    The wheels are okay. I'm getting Arch EX in the future.

    I use clear 3M film and the nylon guard on my stay. None comes with the bike.
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    Cannondale have this chain stay saver that I have installed to show you. It's a strong plastic.


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    The new xt rd has an anti-chainslap clutch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    The wheels are okay. I'm getting Arch EX in the future.

    I use clear 3M film and the nylon guard on my stay. None comes with the bike.
    Cool. I have arch ex on both my hardtail and rigid single speed. They are great wheels.
    A set of i9's with green hubs and spokes would look sick on the f29 c3.
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    what's the overall weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreet View Post
    Cannondale have this chain stay saver that I have installed to show you. It's a strong plastic.
    I'd be more worried about chainsuck than chainslap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 rex View Post
    I'd be more worried about chainsuck than chainslap.
    The new XT has a rear derailer anti chain clutch so it should be safe mine doesn't on 2012 but Leoferus should on his 2013

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    Leoferus I just picked up my 2011 Hi-Mod, it's very ferocious vs my F29erCarbon3. The 29er soaks bumps, the Hi-Mod is rigid like an alloy but a nervous quick feeling bike as you feel the line more direct. You have to pick the line better.

    Anyway just wanted to say, I plan to thrash both bikes hard!



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    wallstreet should be banned for posting porn. Bike-on-bike action no less!
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    wallstreet should be banned for posting porn. Bike-on-bike action no less!
    The gods have listened to you, it's been raining weekend even the indoor trainer is getting worried

    I am itching & twitching to do a short local run & compare both rides back to back & in time too.

    'Thrash' it & don't stand indoors looking & licking cos of the weather

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    I've been busy riding and I have not taken any pictures. I'll change that this week.




    A shot of the Hollowgram cranks.
    Hot stuff man !!! So you're now at 39-26 instead of 38-24 ? I can't find a 38-24 SI SL Hollogram Crank around....not here in Europe not in the USA.....

    Interesting you've changed crank first instead of wheels,I've bought Mavics SLR right away,then I'll move on the crank. Don't have the bike yet tho,hopefully it'll be here by the weekend....
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    Devastatione: what flash do you ride? Why change the cranks? Weight & power?

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    Power and weight... that sounds great! Truthfully, the purchase was vanity driven. The weightsavings and the power gain were fantastic side effects.

    The stiffness is what can be perceived quite easily. Power transfer seems much improved. I believe the combo dropped over 300g.

    As for the gearing, well, my region is flat so the big ring is all I use unless I'm dying. I only noticed the difference a few rides. now it feels normal.

    Get the closest ratio that will suit your needs. Once you ride it a few times you will wish all your bikes had a set.
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    Chaps why not the lighter Stans? Or is it really a weight issue. Most here in Switzerland don't even know too much about Stans, mavic is more popular. It's stronger too.

    Cranks: how about this one

    http://m.bikeradar.com/gear/category...crank-11-28152

    Or is your still lighter? I cannot change either bikes as the mountains are killers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreet View Post
    Devastatione: what flash do you ride? Why change the cranks? Weight & power?
    It's going to be a 2013 F29 3. Main reason is I've heard the oem x7 is heavy as hell. The usual Sram/Truvativ x0 carbon would do the trick and currently it's the best bang for the buck over the Hollogram,but it's not the sexy Hollogram. I'll ride the x7 for a while and see how it feels but moneywise I will most likely land with the "boring" X0 in the future....
    Or maybe during my december yearly USA trip I may get lucky and score an Hollogram somewhere in California....

    Wallstreet : I've heard most chain sucking issues in the past were because of the FSA crank.
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    Devastatione:- there was not too many issues have a few friends racing on hi-mods similar setup to mine. They have ridden far harder than I & flew through the forests. The only complaint is often the price vs gains.

    I plan to lose weight, first place is 2-3kg on my rubbery belly. Went on vacation to a resort that had amazing buffets, too much sun & 2 weeks of no exercise :P

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    What you have for breakfast makes a bigger impact on weight than the cranks... it all depends on the price to weight ratio like wallstreet mentioned. There is nothing wrong with x7. It's just stout.
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    Leoferus: I want hear you THRASH the Flash!

    Devistatiozione: I dont hear you THRASH the Flash!

    I certainly have done no thrashing as its been heavy duty raining! Flashing instead

    Anyone have heavy duty posts pictures or video of how you Thrash the Flash?

    Leoferus let's change this topic to show hard core thrashing the flash...

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    deal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    deal!
    All your dirtiest Flash please to show how hard you Thrash the Flash

    This is a famous Belgium biker Roel Paulissen in Zoetermeer ND July 2009 getting dirty




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    That is not thrashing. That is bike and trail abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreet View Post
    Leoferus: I want hear you THRASH the Flash!

    Devistatiozione: I dont hear you THRASH the Flash!

    I certainly have done no thrashing as its been heavy duty raining! Flashing instead

    Anyone have heavy duty posts pictures or video of how you Thrash the Flash?

    Leoferus let's change this topic to show hard core thrashing the flash...
    Unfortunately trashing a bike is something that does not belong to me . I keep my bikes in tip top conditions,I've spent a little fortune on tools,lubricants and all kind of cleaning products. I've made a point not to wash them often during dry conditions ( except for chain and derailleurs) as I love when wheels and rims turn yellow,but after a barely muddy/wet ride a full cleaning is due no matter what. Actually after a few days of rain I let the trails dry up a bit and I keep myself busy with the road bike
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    Devistatiozione: I am much the same, sticks, leaves, debris are such a pain sometimes to scrape off and I don't always have the time to clean the bike like its new!

    Thrash: to here also means videos of Lefty in Motion or Still pictures

    Not just dirty fun

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    You guys go ahead and trash your bikes. I'll just keep thrashing mine.
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    This is nowhere near thrashing, but it's a start.











    And, of course, service was required after 400 miles. Thanks Chris and Wooden Wheels of Newark, DE.
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    Leoferus: nice photos.


    Btw my handbook has no data on servicing what do you have to do & when, secondly, how fast did you Do those logs? We have nature nothing like that to go over

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    Good going Leoferus,I can't belive how good looking that bike is. I can't wait to have it !!!
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    I get about 400-500 miles out of chains. I replace them regularly. I do cassette, rings, bearings (if necessary) once a year.

    I check everything once a week.

    The lefty has a maintenance schedule. You can find it at Cannondale's site.

    Speed over the log features varies between 5-10mph.
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    500 miles out of a chain ? If we're talking crappy KMC lower end/oem chains I do agree,but i usually pass the 1500 km mark easily with an XT chain. Of course detailed cleaning and new grease every 4 rides helps a lot.

    I still don't know who will take care of my Lefty here in Italy when service will be due tho...
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    I'll try xt next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    500 miles out of a chain ? If we're talking crappy KMC lower end/oem chains I do agree,but i usually pass the 1500 km mark easily with an XT chain. Of course detailed cleaning and new grease every 4 rides helps a lot.

    I still don't know who will take care of my Lefty here in Italy when service will be due tho...
    I believe you can send the lefty itself to cannondale and they will service it. May be costly shipping charges from IT. That what my local Cannondale dealer says they do.
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    I'll relieve you of the lefty. Send it to me. I'll send you an easy to service Reba.
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    Are the "flash" bikes you guys are talking about the same thing as the F29? Looking at this bike and want to make sure I'm clear on what models you're talking about. Thanks

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    I am riding the 2013 Cannondale F29 3... and loving it.
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    I am riding a 2012 Flash 29er Carbon 3 too.

    Leoneferus has a slightly different color, the setup is different too but both great bikes. 2013 has the new OPI fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBulldawg View Post
    Are the "flash" bikes you guys are talking about the same thing as the F29? Looking at this bike and want to make sure I'm clear on what models you're talking about. Thanks
    I believe it is the same bike just a shortened name (maybe a couple small updates not including new lefty). Cannondale has a heritage of using a single letter followed by a number to name many of their bikes....M500, M1000, F700 and now F29-1, F29-2 ( F (front shock) 29 (designating 29 wheel size) 1 or 2 (specific model)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBulldawg View Post
    Are the "flash" bikes you guys are talking about the same thing as the F29? Looking at this bike and want to make sure I'm clear on what models you're talking about. Thanks
    Yes
    F-Flash
    29- wheel size
    2/3/or1 model designation
    Carbon (self explanatory)

    They are all lefty fork bikes. Each year Cannondale has changed front or rear deraillers. From either shims no XT to SRAM X7 between say 2012-2013.

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    Here's the problem. Every time I go out to thrash my F29, well, I'm out thrashing it and have no time or desire to stop and take pictures. We might have to wait until race season starts and photographers are plentiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    Here's the problem. Every time I go out to thrash my F29, well, I'm out thrashing it and have no time or desire to stop and take pictures. We might have to wait until race season starts and photographers are plentiful.
    Dear Mr Thrashing my Flash (sounds like a porn name aka Leoferus)

    Just ride, just ride, just ride !!!




    My backyard is over run by snow! In fact each of the last 3 nights has dumped a total of 3 feet!!!

    My exercise is now arm based with shovelling, shovelling tis beautiful ...

    I got my hi-mod back, I killed the small front FSA crank, now new! I got a new chain, new grips & replaced the brake fluid and everything adjusted she looks better with her new Nobby Nics tarted up with the white stripe ...



    It may be dry, sunny & safe to ride by March if I am lucky enough ... Can't wait to thrash her senses...
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    That is not thrashing. That is bike and trail abuse.
    It's only bike abuse if you don't clean it afterwards.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreet View Post
    Dear Mr Thrashing my Flash (sounds like a porn name aka Leoferus)

    Just ride, just ride, just ride !!!




    My backyard is over run by snow! In fact each of the last 3 nights has dumped a total of 3 feet!!!

    My exercise is now arm based with shovelling, shovelling tis beautiful ...

    I got my hi-mod back, I killed the small front FSA crank, now new! I got a new chain, new grips & replaced the brake fluid and everything adjusted she looks better with her new Nobby Nics tarted up with the white stripe ...



    It may be dry, sunny & safe to ride by March if I am lucky enough ... Can't wait to thrash her senses...
    Good job in storing them nice an clean Wallstreet

    You should join me here in Sardinia,we had a cold weekend but now is back to 14°C. Awating delivery of a Renegade tyre so that I can shred off another 300gr. and then I'm gonna rip trails with my new F29 C3.

    Bike is amazing and Mavic Crossmax SLRs really giver an elegant look. Ordered a Syntace P6 Hiflex Carbon seatpost as by back got smashed during thursday maiden ride,you know..after 3 years of fullys everything softened up down there
    Roadie DNA,mtbike curious.

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    my Flash Carbon 3 is in the mail. What are you guys using to protect your downtubes? I am a bit nervous of the errant rock flicking up. Stoked to for the bike to get here.

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    3M & a chain suck protector

    Note the 3M aswell below.

    Bought a cable protector / guide from dr cannondale in Germany. It's carbon and looks good but works best:




    Then I added these easily added bits that will further prevent rub:

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    I don't like the way Cannondale are pushing 29ers at the moment. I hate having s*** pushed down my throat. I don't think I'll ever look at getting one.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostN7 View Post
    I don't like the way Cannondale are pushing 29ers at the moment. I hate having s*** pushed down my throat. I don't think I'll ever look at getting one.
    They are all doing it, my hi-mod is more nervous on trails that is eaten up by the 29er. The 650b is the near term contender to perhaps phase out our 26ers.

    Funnily enough, I wanted a Flash but didn't see anything but 29ers! So that's why I got it after reviewing the few MTB articles on it.

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    I love the versatility, quick acceleration and handling of my FS 26 - not trying to relinquish that just yet. I can see how a 29er would be faster in most XC racing situations, though. If I ever got even semi-serious about racing, I'd embrace the 29er.

    I don't think 'Dale is pushing 29ers, so much as simply catering to the US market - which demands them and is abandoning the 26. Apparently, 26 remains the standard in Europe, where 120mm 26" bikes are über popular - thus the intro of the 26" Trigger.

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    Hmmmmmmm... 29er Trigger!
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    So my 2013 Flash Carbon 3 has arrived...

    I have put the small 3M stickers that came with the bike. The downtube came with a 3M protector already applied. Is anyone running anything along the entire length of the down tube? Is anymore protection warranted?

    Pro's/Cons of using an innertube for the chainstay?

    Thinking I will go 1x10 on this bike. Has anyone on this forum done that? Looking to use existing crank till funds are there to replace the boat anchor. Direct mount chainguide?

    Thoughts?

    Will post some pics ripping some SWPA singletrack soon.

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    Zach;

    Anywhere you see contact. There's one spot on the seatstay where the brake line might rub. Check where your hoses and cables might rub on your Lefty. Other than that, I put some clear film where I mounted my Garmin sensor. I can't think of any other place. I use a chainstay wrap to protect from the chain. However, this is for sever cases since the XT with the clutch took care of chain slap.

    Most of the impact on my bike has been where the thick stuff is on the downtube. I've been riding French Creek and Bear Creek with rocks flying up at it. I have yet to see any form of damage.

    Enjoy the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zach349 View Post
    So my 2013 Flash Carbon 3 has arrived...

    I have put the small 3M stickers that came with the bike. The downtube came with a 3M protector already applied. Is anyone running anything along the entire length of the down tube? Is anymore protection warranted?

    Pro's/Cons of using an innertube for the chainstay?

    Thinking I will go 1x10 on this bike. Has anyone on this forum done that? Looking to use existing crank till funds are there to replace the boat anchor. Direct mount chainguide?

    Thoughts?

    Will post some pics ripping some SWPA singletrack soon.
    This shows you how to use an innertube. I actually don't, I use a chainstay protector lizard skin. The inner tube seems too thin to me but it does work.

    As Leoferus stated follow your cables and put the 3M anywhere that touches as you turn left & right.. Simples.

    As above I added BBB cable protectors too as the 3M gets worn.

    Good luck enjoy thrashing

    1x10 sounds astute there is a cheaper way if doing it not following the XX route. Eliflap I thought did it.

    Some info:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/turner/1x10-2x10-707160.html

    Look forward to see your baby soon ..
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    I got my first ride in on my new bike yesterday. I am amazed how big of an improvement this bike is over my last bike. I have always been right between sizes on bikes, but the XL frame I have now fits great. I only need to fiddle with some of the small adjustments to get the fit perfect. I was amazed at how much more compliant the ride was over my stiff aluminum frame I had previously. The weight savings was most appreciated and noticed on the several bunny hops over logs.
    I ended up buying a lizardskin downtube protector to extend the coverage of what came factory. as well as a strip for the chainstay to reinforce the protection of the flimsy neoprene protector that came with the bike.
    The conditions yesterday were not the most idea, but they were not sloppy either. I found the Racing Ralphs to need a little more traction. Has anyone on here changed their tires out yet?

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    i also bought a cannondale yesterday, beautiful bikes

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    Thrashing the 2013 Cannondale F29 Carbon 3.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khoder View Post
    i also bought a cannondale yesterday, beautiful bikes
    Welcome to the fold!

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    Zach;

    The Racing Ralphs take some getting used to. Give them a chance. It will be my go-to race tire this season; front and rear. However, because of the snow and ice we are experiencing here in Northern DE, I'm using a Little Albert as a front tire. The front started to step out a bit when things turned frosty. The Little Albert fixed that.

    Another sick tire combo for the MASS race venues is the Aspen/Renegade combo. I think, however, I'll stick with the Rara/Rara for this season as these tires handle almost everything well. They do wear out quickly and they rip if the sidewalls are introduced to rocks.

    Khoder;

    Good luck. Start the 12 steps now. You're on your way to becoming an addict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zach349 View Post
    So my 2013 Flash Carbon 3 has arrived...

    I have put the small 3M stickers that came with the bike. The downtube came with a 3M protector already applied. Is anyone running anything along the entire length of the down tube? Is anymore protection warranted?

    Pro's/Cons of using an innertube for the chainstay?

    Thinking I will go 1x10 on this bike. Has anyone on this forum done that? Looking to use existing crank till funds are there to replace the boat anchor. Direct mount chainguide?

    Thoughts?

    Will post some pics ripping some SWPA singletrack soon.
    Hi Zach i have just bought a 2013 flash 3 carbon and it came with no protection at all . The cables are still kept away from the frame ** the bubble wrap it was boxed up in and the chain can slap against the frame until i have a protector which i have had to order from the dealer i bought the bike off. I am in London ,England and perhaps they have a different policy but you would have thought having spent £2500 you might get some 3M stickers for free !

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    They should be in the black pouch that came with the bike with all the manuals etc in it. Sometimes dealers swipe them though. It almost certainly had one when it was sent from CSG.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Thanks for the info BoostN7 i called my dealer today and he said he would look into it and get back to me .

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    update got the black pouch from the dealer sent through today which was nice , they were very helpful and sent it asap . It contains a black chain guard which appears to just clip onto frame and not stick with any adhesive , is that correct ? anybody shed some light on how it fits on ?

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    Gavinar, how are you getting on with your Flash? Hope you have managed to clock up plenty of miles over the last few weeks, and have you made any upgrades?

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    Can't believe it, my wife has just suggested that i upgrade to the F29 Carbon 3. Was looking at getting the F29 Alloy 1, but no, go for the Carbon she says ! lol
    So guys, looks like il be joining the ranks !

    Whats been the best first upgrade? was thinking bars and seat post for Ritchey WCS carbon ones....?

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    Wheels and crank. Those are the best upgrades on almost any bike. I went with Hollowgrams on my F29 C3. The wheels I haven't gotten yet. Mavics would be nice but I might go with Arch EX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Styish View Post
    Gavinar, how are you getting on with your Flash? Hope you have managed to clock up plenty of miles over the last few weeks, and have you made any upgrades?
    Hi Styish to be honest i have not ridden her as much as i would have liked. Partly because i have become a new father , my daughter was born on Christmas eve , and partly due to the weather being snowy and freezing cold with a lot of road grit that is very corrosive , and partly because i seem to want to keep it in my living room looking brand new and not dirty it up which i know i will get flamed for but is the truth.
    No upgrades yet but from riding so far i think the first thing i willl change is the crank as i find the gears do not let me go fast enough, especially as i will be riding on the road sometimes.I need to get a 3rd big cog for the front .
    How are you getting on with your delivery any bike on the horison ?

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    Gavinar,

    Congratulations on the birth of your daughter!

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    The ratios available on the stock crank are plenty. When I still had them installed, I was pushing 35+ mph on flat and I still had some gears left to go. But, if you have world class legs and can spin a flywheel at a decent cadence I won't stop you. The bike is a trail beast. Trust me, wait until you get some trail time on it. The only reason I went with the Hollowgram crankset was because of badassness (yes, it's a word) and weight. There's nothing wrong, at all, with the set that came with the bike. The ratios are just right for mountain biking. I'd even argue that the most significant change someone could make with the drivetrain is to use a single ring up front. With as light as the bike is and with as much power as it transfers to the rear I never ever use my small ring. However, I keep the granny for security. Just in case. Many of the CAT 1 racers in the area, however, have ditched it.

    I've ridden road on it and I know how amazingly smooth it is there also. But I wouldn't modify the bike for road use. I will seriously flame you for that. As a matter of fact, I'd start a petition and collect money so that we can rescue that flash from you as we would have to deem you a bike abuser and unfit to care for that F29.

    This is the "Thrashing your F29" thread. Not the "I'm going to turn it into a limousine for road riding if I ever get the courage to actually ride it" thread. Go get that thing dirty, go crash it, enjoy the hell out of it. The F29 C3 will have you riding trail like you've never done before. Push the limits, your perceived limits, and it ill surprise you.
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    gavinar, big congrats on becoming a dad, it's ace isn't it? Please don't turn it into a hybrid, keep it as an mtb, you will love it more.

    Mine is due on the 22nd of this month, so any time around that I suppose, can't wait now, will be just right for the start of the race season, keep pondering about going 1x10 straight away, which will be fine for where I live as its fairly flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    Gavinar,

    Congratulations on the birth of your daughter!

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    The ratios available on the stock crank are plenty. When I still had them installed, I was pushing 35+ mph on flat and I still had some gears left to go. But, if you have world class legs and can spin a flywheel at a decent cadence I won't stop you. The bike is a trail beast. Trust me, wait until you get some trail time on it. The only reason I went with the Hollowgram crankset was because of badassness (yes, it's a word) and weight. There's nothing wrong, at all, with the set that came with the bike. The ratios are just right for mountain biking. I'd even argue that the most significant change someone could make with the drivetrain is to use a single ring up front. With as light as the bike is and with as much power as it transfers to the rear I never ever use my small ring. However, I keep the granny for security. Just in case. Many of the CAT 1 racers in the area, however, have ditched it.

    I've ridden road on it and I know how amazingly smooth it is there also. But I wouldn't modify the bike for road use. I will seriously flame you for that. As a matter of fact, I'd start a petition and collect money so that we can rescue that flash from you as we would have to deem you a bike abuser and unfit to care for that F29.

    This is the "Thrashing your F29" thread. Not the "I'm going to turn it into a limousine for road riding if I ever get the courage to actually ride it" thread. Go get that thing dirty, go crash it, enjoy the hell out of it. The F29 C3 will have you riding trail like you've never done before. Push the limits, your perceived limits, and it ill surprise you.
    Thanks Leoferus i think that little speech is just the shove i need to get out and use it ! I appreciate the advice on the crank and don't worry i will definitely not be converting to road use . I think it is time i got it over to Epping forest to find out what this baby can do .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Styish View Post
    gavinar, big congrats on becoming a dad, it's ace isn't it? Please don't turn it into a hybrid, keep it as an mtb, you will love it more.

    Mine is due on the 22nd of this month, so any time around that I suppose, can't wait now, will be just right for the start of the race season, keep pondering about going 1x10 straight away, which will be fine for where I live as its fairly flat.
    Thanks Styish i have to say Fatherhood is very special and am very lucky.
    Pleased to hear your Flash is just around the corner now, hope all goes smoothly and keep me posted . G

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    It would seem stock has started to arrive in the UK, Scalpels are now in and the F3 like yours is available in L & XL.

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    Thrashing the 2013 Cannondale F29 Carbon 3.

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    It would seem stock has started to arrive in the UK, Scalpels are now in and the F3 like yours is available in L & XL.
    Did you get your bike on the 22nd?

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    It's due in the shop today, got to go in later to get some bits so will find out then.

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