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    Stuff from 2008 Catalog *with pics of the new scalpel*

    I've posted some pics from the 2008 Catalog on my blog on http://www.myspace.com/hiddencannondale. These pics maybe be old news for some but whatever. Ill be adding more pics as I have time to convert and upload them.
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    Where has the lefty gone?

    Nice pictures!
    I like the colors of Carbon Rush, but the Lefty is missing?!. Does this mean that in 2007 Rush-es won't have Lefites anymore?
    Here in Europe 2007 Prophets dont have lefties anymore (except prophet 1). This was one of the reasons why i went for the Rush 5 instead of the Prophet. And I must say that Lefty is the BEST for I have ever tried.
    Everyone is talking about replacement for Scalpel, bit I miss a bike that would replace gemini, it would be nice to see something wiht more travel than Prophet, and still able to go uphill. Something like SC Nomad (165 mm of rear travel), not that I like Nomad (it aint C'dale ).

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    MySpace sure has one nasty interface! (not in a good way)

    But poor Europeans, no Lefties?

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    Europe has been known to remove lefties to keep bike pricing in line with their far east counterparts...

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    Any pics and specs of the f29 for 2008?

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    aaaaargh! stupid myspace won't let me get on due to some data base problems. me wanna see

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    yehaa

    hey guys any pics for prophet???? izzit still the same or ??
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    yeah all the pics are from the euro catalog :-(
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    It's a fox fest.

    A sign of things to come maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinxkal
    hey guys any pics for prophet???? izzit still the same or ??
    nope, not any pics of the prophets. the pictures are in his blogs, so everyone can go in and see em.

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    check out these catalogs:

    site of the Belgian bikeshop Probike (click!)

    Europe models. Don't quite like the rush carbon team colors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister T.
    check out these catalogs:

    site of the Belgian bikeshop Probike (click!)

    Europe models. Don't quite like the rush carbon team colors...
    I like the team color better than the current... but the fork is a big no no for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister T.
    check out these catalogs:

    site of the Belgian bikeshop Probike (click!)

    Europe models. Don't quite like the rush carbon team colors...
    I love the color schemes! Why does Europe always get the best colours? I Esp like the double "Cdale" logo on the downtube... Looks beautiful...

    Does anyone else find it interesting that with all these '08 release catalog's there has been "zip" about the prophet?

    Makes me suspicious that they have something under wraps...

    On second thought, there has also been nothing regarding the Judge, Perp, etc... So maybe I'm being paranoid...

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    I heard everything has been going into the Scapel replacement, the CO2, and the SuperSix. Also I got a rather ugly shot of the new Ultegra SL road groupo in there
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar1981
    I love the color schemes! Why does Europe always get the best colours? I Esp like the double "Cdale" logo on the downtube... Looks beautiful...

    Does anyone else find it interesting that with all these '08 release catalog's there has been "zip" about the prophet?

    Makes me suspicious that they have something under wraps...

    On second thought, there has also been nothing regarding the Judge, Perp, etc... So maybe I'm being paranoid...
    I heard those colors will be available in the US
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    I noticed, that Rushes posted in were as from Rush 4 level, so I hope that Rush Team to Rush 3 could be equipped with Lefties as usual.

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    More carbon on Rushes

    I have noticed one thing though. The Rush Carbon now starts at the Rush 4 model. That means all Rushes above the 4 now are available in carbon frames. I think that the carbon frame had such a impact on buyers that now Cannondale are making more models at a more affordable price just to give more people with a tight budget the chance to have a carbon Rush for less in lower specs as an option for the full XTR/Crossmax SLR $6000 top spec. Good move Cannondale!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black RONIN
    . .now Cannondale are making more models at a more affordable price just to give more people with a tight budget the chance to have a carbon Rush for less in lower specs as an option for the full XTR/Crossmax SLR $6000 top spec. Good move Cannondale!
    How is that a good move? In my opinion that's my worst nightmare as a loyal Cannondale rider. I'm stating the obvious, but part of the appeal of Cannondale is the still made in the USA hand-craftedness. The last thing I want to see is a Cannondale catalog full of cookie cutter made in China bikes that look like all the rest of the cookie cutters. No thanks.

    . . Now if the Carbon's were also made in USA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    How is that a good move? In my opinion that's my worst nightmare as a loyal Cannondale rider. I'm stating the obvious, but part of the appeal of Cannondale is the still made in the USA hand-craftedness. The last thing I want to see is a Cannondale catalog full of cookie cutter made in China bikes that look like all the rest of the cookie cutters. No thanks.

    . . Now if the Carbon's were also made in USA...

    jeff
    well, to say that bikes made in the us is better than the best ones made in the far east is simply wrong i think. design is far more important than were it's built. to be honest, i find the "handmade in the usa" to be slightly off putting (though especially so when it comes to snowboards). i'd rather read "partly made by the most advanced machines in the world and specialists enforcing vigorous quality control enforced 24/7/365" besides, from what my lbs told me the carbon frames are being made in house in the us after the initial production in taiwan or wherever it was, and the moulding forms were made. a lot of other bikes have been signifcantly delayed due to the explosive demand for the taurine's.

    silly me for thinking the appeal of cannondales were that they made bombproof, quality bikes based on really good design resulting from thorough r&d. though that might just be the european approach. ;-) and yes, i agree that as some people might want the carbon frame, but can't afford it, i think it would be a great idea to offer it at a more affordable price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klinkekule
    well, to say that bikes made in the us is better than the best ones made in the far east is simply wrong i think. design is far more important than were it's built. to be honest, i find the "handmade in the usa" to be slightly off putting (though especially so when it comes to snowboards). i'd rather read "partly made by the most advanced machines in the world and specialists enforcing vigorous quality control enforced 24/7/365" besides, from what my lbs told me the carbon frames are being made in house in the us after the initial production in taiwan or wherever it was, and the moulding forms were made. a lot of other bikes have been signifcantly delayed due to the explosive demand for the taurine's.

    silly me for thinking the appeal of cannondales were that they made bombproof, quality bikes based on really good design resulting from thorough r&d. though that might just be the european approach. ;-) and yes, i agree that as some people might want the carbon frame, but can't afford it, i think it would be a great idea to offer it at a more affordable price.

    Have you seen or been in some of these outsourced shops in China or Taiwan? I have. I can tell you for a fact that some of them don't even have clean floors. The floors are dirt. One (1) employee owned a car. It's third-world, man. All (100%) of the product we had manufactured over there came back for rework. That's 100%. Typically, 1/3 had to be scrapped due to defects too massive to even rework.

    Yes. A bike manufactued in USA is better. Pass the potatoes.

    Any US citizen that has a problem with the "Made in the USA" logo needs to do a gut check.

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    nope, never been to taiwan or china, but would love to go. hehe.

    well, i'm no us citizen. i'm from the #1 ranked country in the world according to the human development index. no, not "the best country in the world", just a nice country to live in. ;-) come over and i'll show you some nice trails. hehe. (norway by the way). yeah, i've lived in the us too, and i have to say i like the parts of the us i've lived in to. i further do not believe that a made in the us necessarily translates to a better product.

    so only one owned a car? doesn't matter. third world? doesn't necessarily matter. the other points, well hehe, they do matter. but, if all the bikes made in the far east are so shitty, how come cannondale and virtually all bike manucturers make their carbon bikes down there? this indicates that some of the shops do have concrete floors. sure, some of the bikes that are made down there are pure, unfiltered crap. the cannondale rush carbon and taurine are not, and my commencal supreme is def not crap or is any of the other bikes in the commencal range for that matter. and they are made in taiwan.

    to sum it up, no a bike in the us is not necessarily better. remember, we're talking about high end expensive bikes here, not shitty $100 bikes you can buy at walmart. and though the frames had to be reworked, it was still cost efficient and brand acceptable for your company, provided you kept producing bikes down there. and yes, the problem wasn't with "in the us" but with "handmade". hehe.

    keep smiling and be happy. and what's with that stop the global whining stuff? well, better not go into foreign policy or a historical discussion here. it's a bike forum, so let's keep it civil ;-)

    and by the way, remember that it is us euros who are left with the stinking fox's instead of the lefties. and no, fox makes nice products, i just prefer a lefty over em.

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    Smile Light up your thoughts a little

    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    Have you seen or been in some of these outsourced shops in China or Taiwan? I have. I can tell you for a fact that some of them don't even have clean floors. The floors are dirt. One (1) employee owned a car. It's third-world, man. All (100%) of the product we had manufactured over there came back for rework. That's 100%. Typically, 1/3 had to be scrapped due to defects too massive to even rework.

    Yes. A bike manufactued in USA is better. Pass the potatoes.

    Any US citizen that has a problem with the "Made in the USA" logo needs to do a gut check.
    I don't know why americans should bother, because everything else you might have is made in China, Vietnam, Japan or another far east country due the low costs and mass production that the whole world, including americans, demands. TVs, DVDs, snickers, computers, cell phones and bikes.

    Made in the US is not a garanty that it is a good product. What will count is the quality control of those who make this products. For me, Cannondale could make their bikes in India if they like, it wouldn't matter and most important, it wouldn't change what they do best. Trek does their carbon frames in the US, but I don care for them. Trek bikes are blunt, just boring and not at all innovative. But according to you, being a "made in USA" bike it should count, but it doesn't and still I'd be getting aTaiwan-made Rush carbon, because what counts is what the company does, and not where it does.

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    Many of you may already have seen it, but if you havent, I have pictures of the new scalpel on my myspace blog
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