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    Prophet Time

    Just picked up prophet frame at the weekend.

    Ready for new summer build, so will be asking some question soon to all you bike guru's.
    Not sure what year it is.?? will post a pic of it soon...

    maybe someone will tell me the year..!!

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    There is a site with Cannondale back catalogs, so it won't be too hard to figure out what year it is. I've got a built up '08 Prophet, so congrats on the new frame and hope you enjoy the bike!

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    Isn't the serial number related to the year? Couldn't a dealer look it up? I think 2005 was the last year the Prophet dude was on the top tube? What color is it?

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    As above says...

    Any idea what the site is called with the back catalogs..

    The Color is like a sort of sandy beige, will get pic up by the end of week.

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    Thanks for that link..

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    Been thinking about my build and can't decide, as I got the frame second hand should I build the whole bike with second hand parts trying to build it as cheap as possible, or do I buy new parts.
    It would be fun to try to build it on strict budget ,but it will look like an old wreck..lol

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    Good parts is the sensible choice really, if you can afford it. Here's how to justify it:

    1) If you end up upgrading the frame in the future, it will be worth taking the good parts off.
    2) Up until that happens, you'll ride a better bike all the time.

    I have some X0 stuff, carbon cranks, rims, bar and so on on my Prophet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul Lumikko View Post
    Good parts is the sensible choice really, if you can afford it. Here's how to justify it:

    1) If you end up upgrading the frame in the future, it will be worth taking the good parts off.
    2) Up until that happens, you'll ride a better bike all the time.

    I have some X0 stuff, carbon cranks, rims, bar and so on on my Prophet.
    Stuff I have already is raceface bars ,XT f/r brakes, raceface stem, carbon seat post ,Mag pedals.

    Interesting you say about X0 stuff ,how would you rate X0 over XT for the price increase, is it worth it.???
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    Before you get too far, you should consider converting the Prophet to 650b / 27.5

    Makes it more modern
    My name is Chris and I ride a Prophet 650b with a Lefty.

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    I got X0 cranks for less than XT, so it was a no-brainer. Product discontinuation sale at the LBS... I haven't been riding them enough to report on any differences. Most likely I'll find that XT are brilliant cranks as they are and it's hard to make significant improvement over that (that I'd notice), but the X0 shaves some grams and looks better.

    I don't care about trends much but I put wide 650B rims on mine because I wanted a higher BB with the slack FR setting. Definitely a good move.

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    Picture at last....!!

    Well at last i've some pic's up..!!

    This is how i picked it up..

    Prophet Time-img_6240.jpg

    And this was it, later in the day...

    Prophet Time-img_6283.jpg
    Prophet Time-img_6292.jpg

    Ordered new cable guides and bearings...

    Can't decide if i'm going to leave it as is, or make it raw or paint it custom color..

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    Question.. Can I run 150mm fork..???

    I've been offered 150mm Revelation World Cup carbon taper steerer for good money.!!
    I'm not hardcore rider just do mostly trails.

    Or would I be better getting 140mm fork it's not the mx frame just standard and its way past its warranty..!!!
    I do try..!!

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    It deserves a lefty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ascoda View Post
    It deserves a lefty.
    Would love to but can't afford them..!!
    Over here in sunny ole England they are mega expensive.. £££££'s
    I do try..!!

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    I've got a 140mm Fox RLC on mine and it's 10mm longer than the stated fork length on the frame. It did slacken the front, and I do feel it on the climbs and on the turns. No problems with the frame so far but I don't know any crazy jumps or hardcore downhil trails.

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    I use the Fox Talas 110/120/140. usually ride if FR mode with shock in 120. When trails get steep, I switch to 140. Does'nt need any more than 140 IMO. FYI headsets will be a standard 1.5".
    Finally came time to replace shock. Put on a 2013 Monitou Radium and swithced out the DU bushings for ABI needle bearings. What a difference, very smooth. This is a true "do all" bike, love mine.
    Prophet Time-new-image.jpg

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    Well, just pulled the trigger on revelation 150mm World Cup..!!
    Hope they work for me, could maybe get them converted to 140mm if I have problems.
    I do try..!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMC FS View Post
    I use the Fox Talas 110/120/140. usually ride if FR mode with shock in 120. When trails get steep, I switch to 140. Does'nt need any more than 140 IMO. FYI headsets will be a standard 1.5".
    Finally came time to replace shock. Put on a 2013 Monitou Radium and swithced out the DU bushings for ABI needle bearings. What a difference, very smooth. This is a true "do all" bike, love mine.
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    Can you provide us with an item number for those? I would love to upgrade to needle bearings on my Prophet as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdalemaniac View Post
    Can you provide us with an item number for those? I would love to upgrade to needle bearings on my Prophet as well.
    ABI Shock eyelet needle bearing kit, M8x37.6mm $15.90 ABI Shock eyelet needle bearing kit, M8x25.4mm $11.00
    Will see if I can find the part numbers and post later. Found these at bikeparts.com, they were the only ones that had the 37.6 size in stock. Called my local shop but they could'nt get them. BP wasn't bad to deal with, had them in 4 days.
    FYI the prophets orriginal sizes are 37.4mm and 27.4mm. From my research ABI's closest sizes were 37.6mm and 28mm. 37.6 worked perfect on the rear mount but I did'nt want to risk trying to squeeze in the 28mm in the front so i bought the 25.4 and used 2each 1mm shims. Bike is smooth as butter now.
    FYI, outsideoutfitters.com had them on their list but not in stock at the time. Also, installation was very simple. I used a table vise, a 15mm little pipe I had laying around and used a cassette removing tool to catch the old DU bushing (should have taken photo). Vise alone easily pressed in the new needle bearings.

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    Been busy last couple of weeks, Shopping..lol
    Got nearly all parts for the build.. Just need saddle..!!
    Still unsure about rear shock..
    I do try..!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannondave View Post
    Still unsure about rear shock..
    What about the rear shock? Are you looking to change the fox that came on it?

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    Rear shock on bike is RP2 with DIY mods done on it by previous owner..!!
    Was thinking about getting 2012 Monarch RT3, but after talking to my local suspension tuners I'm going to get the RP2 PUSH tuned..!! And keep it.
    I do try..!!

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    Definitely a good choice. I believe custom tuning is THE way to go for the prophet due to the suspension design. I have a prophet with a Swinger 3way on it. It's okay, not exactly plush but I have nothing to compare it to. I'd like to try a fox (since it could be pushed worst case scenario) with the correct compression/rebound tune but I haven't come across one at a good price with a high compression tune.

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    Took frame to strippers the other day, was going to get it powder coated but just couldn't decide on a color..!!!
    Should get it back after Easter break.
    Any thoughts on colors.??

    Still need to decide on saddle , any suggestions .??
    I do try..!!

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    I've been rebuilding my Prophet with lighter parts. It's a work in progress but I'm only missing a seatpost, saddle and pedals at this point, and the scale tipped to 10.6 kg (23.4 lbs). I'm expecting the finished build to remain under 11.5 kg (a bit over 25 lbs), which is quite nice for an 8-year old 140 mm enduro machine.

    Some additional weight can still be shed by replacing the spider + chainring with a direct mount Narrow Wide chainring and losing the chain guide in the process.

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    That's awesome, if my build is around 11.5kg i will be well pleased..
    Can I ask what wheels you are using.??
    I do try..!!

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    Original Lefty 24h hub with DT Swiss Alpine III spokes in front, Hope Pro II Evo 32h with DT Swiss Revolution spokes in the rear, brass nipples and Light Bicycle 650B AM rims, reinforced version in the front. The whole set weighs 1650 grams if my memory serves me correct, and is incredibly stiff for the weight.

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    That's cool.. Now I see where your light weight comes from... It's a Lefty..!!
    I'm about to build some wheels aiming at 1600-1700g for the set.
    After speaking to people on here I am going to probably use Pacenti tl28 or WTB KOM i23.
    I must start weighing the parts I've already got..lol
    I do try..!!

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    I am looking at both the Light Bicycle rims and the Nextie rims. I have mine set up 650b with a Velocity Blunt SL based wheelset that weighs in at 1,500 grams. My bike is about 27 lbs, so like Saul said, "quite nice for a" 9 "year old enduro machine".

    I want the stiffer and stronger Carbon wheelset.

    Saul, I can't use the FR setting with the 650b wheels. I would hit the seat post on compression.
    My name is Chris and I ride a Prophet 650b with a Lefty.

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    Agreed. Pretty nice for a 9 year old bike. The only downfall is frame flex but my favorite aspect of the bike is that there is 0 peddle bob. I can run in FR or XC mode but I also use Maxxis Crossmarks. The rims I use are slighlty heavier than what you are looking at but I love the wide rims, Pecenti P35's.

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    Well not happy at the moment..frame still not back from strippers..!!
    Been ages and I'm getting bored..lol
    Got big box of parts and nothing to put them on..
    I do try..!!

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    Need saddle..!!
    My choices are WTB Volt , Charge Scoop , SDG Bel-Air RL ..??
    Any ideas welcome.
    I do try..!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannondave View Post
    Well not happy at the moment..frame still not back from strippers..!!
    Been ages and I'm getting bored..lol
    Got big box of parts and nothing to put them on..
    What color did you select for the frame? another option you could have polish aluminum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannondave View Post
    Need saddle..!!
    My choices are WTB Volt , Charge Scoop , SDG Bel-Air RL ..??
    Any ideas welcome.
    I've been using the WTB Vigo and has been nothing but good to me. I did look to buy the Volt when I was saddle shopping and I found the Vigo cheaper since it was on closeout.

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    I borrowed the seatpost and saddle from this thing to another bike I was building. The Prophet gets fresh ones. Still got some cable and hose work to do, but not a huge amount.



    I wasn't quite able to match the orange on the grips and rims to the original frame highlights. I'll live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by btc View Post
    What color did you select for the frame? another option you could have polish aluminum.
    The color I chose was raw finish because I just couldn't decide what color..!!
    My color could be any one of these..have a look RAL Color Chart | www.RALcolor.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Saul Lumikko View Post
    I borrowed the seatpost and saddle from this thing to another bike I was building. The Prophet gets fresh ones. Still got some cable and hose work to do, but not a huge amount.



    I wasn't quite able to match the orange on the grips and rims to the original frame highlights. I'll live.

    Saul..sweet looking bike love that you matched rim color
    ( I have a pair of orange raceface bars on eBay..lol )
    I do try..!!

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    Now I've had frame stripped I need new decals ,but can't find them anywhere..
    I do try..!!

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    Good luck and let me know if you find some! I'm actually only looking for 2 of these (see pic), the guy I bought it from must have clamped on the decal because one is gone and one is peeled (not my bike just an internet pic).

    Prophet Time-logo.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannondave View Post
    Now I've had frame stripped I need new decals ,but can't find them anywhere..
    You can find them on eBay all the time...
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    Well it was going to be raw finish but my local shop has some really nice colors, all I need to do is pick one..!!!

    Pick a color..lol

    Prophet Time-image.jpg

    And there are more on the other side....
    I do try..!!

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    Well got saddle at last, chose WTB Volt as I got good deal on it..
    Frame is back from powdercoaters at last..!! Not saying what color will let pictures tell..
    So....my building will soon begin, I can't wait..
    I do try..!!

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    Prophet Time-imag1377.jpg

    This is my recently acquired 2006 medium Prophet frame which I've built up with most of the parts from my previous Kona Blast hard tail.

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