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    Project Cannondale.

    Good afternoon all,

    I managed to pick up a beautiful F800 off of eBay for a good price, it's got the Left 130 Max on it, Eastern Carbon Monkey Lites, SOG seat and post, and Tektro Auriga Pro brakes. It has mostly Shimano Deore XT drivechain.

    I want to build the bike for Single track and get it as light as possible.

    I've already done a few minor changes, put on some Continental Race King 2.0 (folding) tires, and some SRAM light weight locking grips. I'm planning on building some new wheels. Possibley Project321 hubs with a carbon rim. I've already got some decent spokes I can re-use. I'm also thinking about getting some Hope Race X2 brakes, but I've read Hope are releasing some new brakes soon so might hold on for that. I'm also debating switching to a SRAM drive chain.

    Any thoughts?
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    Anyone out there?

    I've just ordered my Hope Race X2's.

    I'm debating what Sram set to go for. I know you can mix and match but I would like a complete set. I think the X9 would suit me just fine but for some reason I'm tempted to get the X0 or an XX. I regard myself as a competent cyclist and am looking forward to doing some trials and races next year, but would XX be overkill?

    Also I've ordered the Hope Lefty stem, was hard to find one as they're now discontinued (I think).

    I will take some pics after my brakes and stem are on, we all like pictures
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Looks like it'll be a nice bike once you're done.
    I just believe that the lefty max might be overkill for a cc rig and might put too much stress on your frame especially in the head tube area....not to mention the geometry change....
    I hear you about the xo/xx stuff......most of us would be fine with x9 stuff but having high end components always feels better and is kinda re-assuring that it'll last longer..
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    As I said the Lefty max came on the bike when I got it. I thought the lefty max was a vast improvement on the standard lefty? I think the guy that owned it before me paid alot of money for it. Coil is a lot better than air right?

    Geometry wise, I find the bike a lot more comfatable to ride than my Dad's standard F800. But to be honest I didn't realise the Lefty Max would change it at all.
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    Hey guys,

    Well my Hope stem came yesterday, only trouble is, my Monkey lite's a too small for them! I'm left with to choices.

    1. Be responsible, send them back and get your money back.
    2. But some new Easton MonkeyLite CNT SL's.

    Obviously I'm going for the latter, it's christmas after all right?

    I took her out for a quick night ride last night and took a quick snap. I know it's low quality but I will some better pictures this afternoon after the new bars, brakes and stem is on.

    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    you need a black Lefty as mine
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    That looks gorgeous!

    I'm gonna keep the Lefty Max to be honest, I'll probably get it sprayed though. Will be one of the last things I do.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Good evening all,

    Got a bit of an update, my shiney new Monkey Lites came today, they don't look as good as the previous bars but I prefer the shape of them, and they certainly feel nicer. That's probably down to the new Hope Stem as well though.

    Both the bars and the stem are shorter to that what was previously on there, so the bike feels a bit more responsive now.

    I got some Hope Race X2's on the way, Hope don't open until the 4th so will have to wait till next week to get those on....

    Anyway, enough talk. Here are the pictures..



    The bikes, starting to come together nicely, you can see my Dad's F800 and his old Cannondale, he says it's around 15 years old, but we don't know what it is.



    New Hope Stem, I love it! You can see the Cannondale multi-tool poking out the head tube, really neat little gadget that.



    Recently added the Hope decals, got to support the boys down at Hope, they're top notch!



    The new bars, and my cheap lights, just for riding to my GF's they're bright enough for now. I want Stella's though



    Her name is Rosey by the way......

    Any thoughts feedback? I'm still new to this!
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Evening all,

    Got another update for those following the thread (if any).

    Got the Hope Tech X2's fitted, they are remarkable brakes. Very very pleased with them. A huge upgrade.

    Took her for a spin on Saturday, 14 mile ride down my local trails and the bike felt really good. Really please with the progress so far.

    Now I need to decide on my next upgrade. Might need some help here.

    Option A. Drivetrain,

    Sram XX Chainset
    Sram XX Trigger Shifters
    Sram XX Rear mech
    Sram XX Front mech
    Sram X9 Cassette
    Hope Ceramic Bottom Bracket.

    Option B. Wheels

    Hubs - I want matching front and rear hubs, possibly Project 321 hubs. The rear hub is a bit too heavy for the money. I would definitely upgrade to ceramic bearings in the front hub.

    ZTR Lightweight Olympic Rims
    DT Swiss Spokes (not sure what type yet)
    Hope Floating Rotors (6 bolt)

    Any advice would be appreciate, I just can't decide!



    Hope Tech X2 lever with Union Jack Master cylinder cap.



    X2 Calliper and Hope 4 Bolt rotors. When I upgrade my wheels I'll buy the 6 bolt floating rotors.



    Dirty Cannondale <3
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    I'd go with the XT cassette over the X9 and would just get some stan's rims laced to ztr hubs. Or maybe DT Swiss 240s hubs if you have the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboyj17
    I'd go with the XT cassette over the X9 and would just get some stan's rims laced to ztr hubs. Or maybe DT Swiss 240s hubs if you have the money.
    I 2nd that
    Get some nice wheels first!
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    I think the Stan ZTR rims are a definite cert at the moment. Don't know if I should get ZTR Olympics or ZTR Flow's, I'll probably buy which ever one is lightest....

    I rang Hope today to see if they made a Lefty hub and they don't which sucks. I might just go for the Project321 hubs.

    Cassette wise, I already have a Shimano XT Cassette. I would rather buy a compelte group set (minus the brakes) and run that.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    I have Stan's rims on two of my Cannondales both sets with Cannondale Lefty front hubs and Hope Pro II rear hubs. I've been really happy with the Hope Pro II rear hubs...

    BTW, sweet F800!
    '15 Niner RLT 9
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    What Stans did you get? What ones would you recommend? I might something really light! I've been looking at the Stan's ZTR Olympic rims. They're no longer on Notubes.com though, I wonder if they've been super-seeded by a better model?

    As far as hubs are concerned, call me a tart but I want matching hubs /blush

    Thanks, she's a work in progress and will only get better. What have you got? Have you posted it?
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostN7
    What Stans did you get? What ones would you recommend? I might something really light! I've been looking at the Stan's ZTR Olympic rims. They're no longer on Notubes.com though, I wonder if they've been super-seeded by a better model?

    As far as hubs are concerned, call me a tart but I want matching hubs /blush

    Thanks, she's a work in progress and will only get better. What have you got? Have you posted it?
    I have a custom set of ZTR355 650b wheels on my Cannondale Rush and ZTR FLOW 29er wheels on my F29.

    The (old) Rush is here:


    The F29 is here:
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    Dude, you got some nice bikes man. Particularly like the Rush, do you still have it? It's a good shot as well. Next time I go for a ride I will take a "valiant inspired" shot lol!

    I like the tires as well, set's it off nicely. I want some Racing Ralphs with the white stripes through them like you get on Scott Sparks but I can't find them anywhere.

    Here's a picture of the Project 321 hubs. You can get complete wheel builds with the ZTR Flows and custom colours if you need it. I will just get black though lol.





    Looks pretty nice hey?
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Personally , I think you are over building/spending on an F8 frame but it's your bike , do what you want , go nuts ;-)

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    It might sound silly but I kinda like the F8 frame? If it becomes a bottle neck I'll replace it, but for the moment it's fine
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    I am doing the same thing for my new RZ 140 build. Picked up brand new RZ 140 frame on the ebay, carbon lefty max brand new on ebay, will go 1x9 with Shimano Saint short cage bomb proof rear derailleur and Stans Flow rims laced to Hope Pro 2 10 mm through on the rear and Woodman lefty hub on the front. Hope Tech X2 brakes are a go too. Already love my future bike!
    Why didn't you go for Cannondale XC3 Si integrated steam/steering tube? It's very light and stiff solution for lefty and no extra bolts involved.

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    I'm not sure really, I guess I just wanted to go for the Hope stem instead. Make the bike look a bit different if you know what I mean. I want something that's unique!

    In regards to my frame choice, I know it's not the lightest or the newest frame in the world but it's a good solid frame. I don't want to build the bike so it's too light to ride, which is why I went for alloy rather than carbon. Also I wouldn't want a full carbon bike just yet, I don't trust it lol!

    The bike currently weighs in at around 20lbs. I reckon I can shave a couple of lbs off when I do the drive-train and the wheels.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Hi all,

    Got a minor update for you, nothings really changed on my Cannondale for awhile, I got a new chain stay but that doesn't really count does it?

    I've just ordered a Sram XX rear mech, with matching Sram XX triggers. I realise that I won't be able to use them yet, but it's no big deal, I get a bonus at the end of the month and that should cover the rest of the parts I need. I also got the Hope Tech Matchmakers, which will enable to mount my shifters to my brake lever mounts, and a new chain because my ones dying

    Shopping list so far consists of:

    Sram XX Chainset
    Sram XX Front Mech (high clamp)
    Sram XX Casette
    Hope Ceramic bottom bracket
    Chris King rear hub
    Front hub (un-decided)
    Stans Podium Rims
    DT Swiss spokes (un-decided)

    Still a long way to go, but I'm getting there.

    Stay tuned.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    The podiun rims are race-day only. Not really made for everyday riding. I would go with the crests instead.

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    Ah Ok, I think I'll probably go for them then. How do they compare to the Olympics?
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    Boost , how do you like the Hope X2 ?

    I have older mono minis and was thinking about those .....
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    I've got to be honest mate I love 'em. There sheer quality is amazing, I would fully recommend them. At the moment I think they're only £120 a piece which is a bargain for what they are.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Crests are a blend of the podium mmx rim and the ztr355 rim. I think it is a little bit wider than the olympics, but not as deep. You can check out the specs at the no-tubes website.

    http://www.notubes.com/ztr_rims.php

    The alpines are more comparable to the olympics, they are basically a newer version. I would go with them over the olympics. Alpines or Crests would be excellent for your build. The alpines are probably a little lighter (10 grams).

    These are both lightweight rims, however. If you are over 180lbs I would go for the arch rims instead for the added stiffness.

    Good luck with the build.

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    Thanks for your help and advice, I think I will just go for the Crest's.

    I'll probably get a Chris King rear hub, but as a for a front hub yet, I don't know...
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Thanks for your help and advice, I think I will just go for the Crest's.

    I'll probably get a Chris King rear hub, but as a for a front hub yet, I don't know...

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    Last edited by BoostN7; 02-09-2011 at 12:59 PM.
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    BoostN7, about weight, You may take some grams by changing seattube, saddle and pedals with much less than the huge changes you mention above..
    good luck!

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    I will ultimately do that as well to be honest, I was thinking of getting an Easton Carbon Stem, and a light weight (but comfy) saddle. Peddle-wise I was thinking of getting some Eggbeaters.

    On a side note, XX has finally landed (well a bit of it). I finally picked up my package from work today (I've been off sick of a few days). I'm really looking forward to getting the rest of it at the end of the month. I've taken some pictures for your viewing pleasure


    The XX rear mech is a sexy lookin' thing alright.... (light too)


    The shifters aren't quite as sexy as the rear mech, but they're super light and feel really good.


    I love the graphic on the trigger, the little red bit on the top of the X just sets the whole thing off for me.


    ...and of corse a SRAM 2x10 chain
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Good evening all,

    I'm sorry for the double post, but my matcher makers came today and I simply couldn't resist fitting them and taking some pictures. Obviously they're not functional yet because I'm still missing some pieces, but it wont be long (end of the month).


    Before and after, the match makers just make the whole thing look so much cleaner.


    Triggers tucked away behind the levers.


    I still love the red on the XX logo, subtle but effective!

    I'm really looking forward to getting it all up and running at the end of the month, <3 bonuses.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    This has turned into more of a blog than anything else lol. Hopefully someones listening/maybe even following my little project.

    I've just ordered the XX cassette and front mech. I will install them over the weekend.

    Good times.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    I've been following your updates....
    No go and ride that darn thang already!
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    Ok all, got a huge update for you this evening. Got my Sram XX Cassette through today. I'm really pleased with it. I've got to be honest, it's a work of art.

    I couldn't wait to get home from work and get it all on (XX triggers, XX Cassette, XX Rear Mech and the new chain). I literally got in and went straight into my garage for the next few hours (I like to take my time). I also thought it would be worth servicing my chainset and my bottom bracket, they will be replaced soon anyway, they're heavy as).

    My XX front mech should be here tomorrow. I'll stick that on tomorrow night and finish tweaking my set up.

    Anyways, here are the pictures.



    The XX rear mech is simply amazing is all aspects (other than the price)



    I thought I'd post a couple of pictures of it cos it's so sexy



    The XX cassette brings some serious bling to my Cannondale (until it gets covered in mud).



    I love this photo, the cassette and the Hope rotor look good together. I just need my hubs now



    The triggers are absolutely flawless, and they look gorgeous (especially with the Hope match makers).



    I've still got to adjust my cockpit properly. Haven't had a chance yet



    Project Cannondale is coming on very nicely me thinks!

    I was mortified when I took the chainset and the bottom bracket off/out. They were shot to pieces and they weigh a ton! I wasn't going to get my chainset until next month but I might just go and order them today

    Feedback and ideas welcome as always!
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Project Cannondale is on hold until further notice.

    See link below for details.

    SRAM XX chain set fault! Please advise?
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Hey all,

    Project Cannondale is back on. Crisis has been averted. It all hit the fan when I came to fit the Chris King bottom bracket and the SRAM XX chainset. I mis-read the description for the bottom bracket on Chain Reaction and didn't realise it was incompatible with my chainset. Leaving me with about a centimetre of play and unable to actually get the chainset off.


    Bad times.

    I spoke to Chain Reaction and they advised that the bottom bracket was incompatible and I could get an adapter (not through them though). So I headed over to Westbrook cycles and picked up this little number. Which done the trick nicely.

    The XX chainset is on and working perfectly. I can't believe how good the sifting is. It's quick as anything!


    The XX chainset is gorgeous, worth every penny.


    My plan to build something unique is coming on well. Always get comments everytime I go out, which is awesome! I love the attention haha!

    I also had her weighed at the weekend, come in at just over 23lbs, my aim is to get her down to 20. I have some Nuke Proof Neutrons (mg-ti) coming tomorrow, so she'll be around 22lbs.

    Shopping list is a lot smaller now.

    - New wheels (either P321 hubs laced to ZTR Crests, or Mavic SLR's)
    - Thompson Masterpiece seatpost.
    - A nice saddle (open to suggestions, really not sure what to get. Need to be light and not hurt my arse).
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Hey all,

    Sorry to those who are following this project for the lack of updates, been really busy. Got a huge update though.

    I managed to get some Mavic CrossMax SLR's off of eBay for a reasonable price, bought some Hope floating rotors and some Racing Ralphs too.

    Gave the wheels a clean up and got it all on and the result is fantastic. I've mostly been testing and tweaking for the last few days. The bike is simply amazing. The new wheels have really made a difference. The bike feels really light now, it was 22lbs before the wheel upgrade, not sure what she is now. I'm guessing around 21lbs, I might be being slight optimistic though. I think the new bits look awesome as well (see below)



    All that's left to do now, is get a new seat, new seat post, and some nice pedals. The project is almost complete.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Hi all,

    Some help please, I have a 29er SL-2, I want replace the wheels, but I don't know what tipe of hub I need order, the factory hubs are Formula DC-20 fornt and DC-22 rear, I am planning keep the original brakes and cassette (SRAM X5 10 speeds), BTW what stage quick release skewer I must use?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboyj17 View Post
    The podiun rims are race-day only. Not really made for everyday riding. I would go with the crests instead.
    only Notube's says it ...for maybe warranty issues ...

    i used my MMX on 26" and using Race Gold on 29er every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostN7 View Post



    ...and of corse a SRAM 2x10 chain
    please trow away the powerlink of that chain , installing a missing link from KMC removable by hand.

    powerlink to be dismounted on the field : preferring to see wife with other woman ...

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    cool bike, great tasty build.

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    keep the max shinney, its matchs everything else.... your bling.

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    Tastefully done the daddy if the Flash clearly

    Beautiful bike, like how you have tastefully tarted Rosie up! I see why you had to buy the Mrs a Scalpel (you dam fool) next time use your mind flip and trick her to think she wants to spend the money to buy the bike although subconsciously your behind her on it!

    Or else sell her for a new bike not many or 100 camels

    Don't forget to tell her how beautiful she is and hot as she rides in front of you. Let her know she looks greater each week she rides fit!

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    Wallstreet: I'm amazed that you managed to pull this thread up. But, this is not my bike. Unfortunately I wore out the drop-outs and gave the frame to my dad who fixed it and now uses Rosie as a hyrbid. I sold all of the parts and brought another bike.

    My Flash is truly the queen of all Flash's, Ive made some very subtle mods, her name is Jessica.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Dam! I can't find Jessica & I did prefer Rosie... Phew

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    Nice try..
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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