• 06-03-2006
    rw420
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    Post your UBER V !!!!!!!!!!!
    It's about time we had a thread specifically for the UBER. So here's the first one.

    This is a Super V Police edition frame front with an '04 Jekyll swingarm. The shock mount tabs have been cut and drilled for the longer stroke shock. It gets a full 150 mm rear-wheel travel from a Progressive 5th element air shock and 130 mm from the Marzocchi Z1 FR SL. Weighs 29 pounds complete.
  • 06-03-2006
    rw420
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    My new favorite...
    This was a '99 Super V frame front. It used to be a yellow-green fade. Here's what it used to look like. I had it bead-blasted and powder coated in blue. The swingarm is from an '03 Jekyll. 150 mm rear wheel travel from the 5th element and 125 mm Fox Talas RLC. 28.5 pounds complete.
  • 06-04-2006
    MendonCycleSmith
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    Here's mine, pics a bit old, but the only changes are El Caminos with an 8" in front, and a VRO stem for on the fly adjustability. Swing arm's from an '02 Jekyll, 97/8 SV500 front tri, chopped and drilled for the same results as RW's. Sweet deep travel=:)
  • 06-04-2006
    jdcamb
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    Here is mine. 28lb. trail bike with 150mm rear wheel travel and 130mm front. It f'n rocks! Best bike I have ever owned. jdcamb
  • 06-04-2006
    ajm
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    Black Ice
    Here's mine.
    '00 Super V Frame, cut to fit the big shock
    150 mm in back courtesy of the DHX Air 5.0.
    130 up front from the Bomber Z1 FR SL.
    29.75 pounds...
    Nice!!!!!:D
  • 06-04-2006
    Heals120
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Here's mine, pics a bit old, but the only changes are El Caminos with an 8" in front, and a VRO stem for on the fly adjustability. Swing arm's from an '02 Jekyll, 97/8 SV500 front tri, chopped and drilled for the same results as RW's. Sweet deep travel=:)

    I love your UV Mendon, if I had the money I would definately buy it off you in an instant. Thanks for the little test ride in the lot yesterday. I wonder if Sean will pull through with the swap over from his prophet. I know he's been wanting to buy his old one back from his neighbor for a while.
  • 06-04-2006
    MendonCycleSmith
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Heals120
    I love your UV Mendon, if I had the money I would definately buy it off you in an instant. Thanks for the little test ride in the lot yesterday. I wonder if Sean will pull through with the swap over from his prophet. I know he's been wanting to buy his old one back from his neighbor for a while.

    Glad you got a chance to ride it! Sean should bug her about it (gently), you never know what might happen=:)
  • 06-06-2006
    psyber_0ptix
    does anyone have any formal "how-to" writup to build an uberV. i forgot in many pages of the superV thread that a hole must be drilled one centimeter in. however how does this make it ok to run a shock 1" longer eye to eye? otherwise, whats stopping anyone from running a .5" longer shock e-e on a "normal" frame. its still going to be slightly beyond stock geometry isnt it?

    in any case, i was just curious. i just put the bonded arm of death on (however i dont think i ride hard enough yet to break it) but after i'm back into biking again, hopefully i'll have a later model jekyll arm in my hands ready for swap. i can already feel how shakey this new swingarm feels, its not stiff at all. i was tempted to put my old active 80 triangle back on, however i have a broken brake boss, so thats a negatory.
  • 06-06-2006
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
    does anyone have any formal "how-to" writup to build an uberV. i forgot in many pages of the superV thread that a hole must be drilled one centimeter in. however how does this make it ok to run a shock 1" longer eye to eye? otherwise, whats stopping anyone from running a .5" longer shock e-e on a "normal" frame. its still going to be slightly beyond stock geometry isnt it?

    in any case, i was just curious. i just put the bonded arm of death on (however i dont think i ride hard enough yet to break it) but after i'm back into biking again, hopefully i'll have a later model jekyll arm in my hands ready for swap. i can already feel how shakey this new swingarm feels, its not stiff at all. i was tempted to put my old active 80 triangle back on, however i have a broken brake boss, so thats a negatory.

    It depends on what model year your V is, which fork/headset combination you want to use and what headtube angle you want to achieve. If you provide these details, I can give you more precise tab-modification recommendations. There are three types of V frames that we have identified: '97/'98, '99 and '00/'01/'02. The shock mount tabs on each are different and require slightly different treatment depending on your target headtube angle.

    For example: My '99 required no modification and provided a headtube angle of about 69 degrees when used with the 5" Fox Talas, gemini headtube adapters and king headset. The same bike would have a headtube angle of about 68 degrees with a Marzocchi 130mm fork and nearly 70 degrees with a Lefty Max. Personally, I prefer a the 69 degree HT. You can also achieve a steeper HT by using a 7.875 i2i rather than the 7.5 i2i rear shock. So many options...

    Another example: My '02 police frame was drilled about 7/8" forward and gets about a 68.5 degree HT angle with the Marzocchi Fork, gemini headtube adapters, and chris king headset.

    Another important thing that we've learned is that to get the best performance out of the Ubers, you should set up your handlebar an inch or two higher than your saddle. It may seem odd, but they climb extremely well that way. Unfortunately, that's difficult to achieve with a Lefty fork unless you find a very tall stem.
  • 06-06-2006
    psyber_0ptix
    hum....

    i believe mines a 97 model superV 700

    i just recently swapped to a bonded type swingarm for upgrade/fixing the problem with brake boss.

    heres an old pick before the swingarm swap:

    currently using a fox vanilla rc 6.5 e-e x 1.55 for shock though

    as of current, i'm not sure what kind of fork i'll be using, i guess this is something i'll have to decide before doing this mod, but i was thinking stepping up to a 120mm travel from my current 100.


    for all intents and purposes, this is a medium frame

    but for now, i think my bike is ok, just prepping ideas for maybe end of summer.
  • 07-02-2006
    jdcamb
    Best bike evah! -
  • 07-05-2006
    jdcamb
    Even Cannondale knows!!


    Proof:

    Ha ha!
  • 07-06-2006
    laxin1
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    The Magic Carpet
    If you don't already have one you should stop looking and save yourself the trouble...get yourself an enduro or somthing. :thumbsup:

    The Uber V rides like a Cheetah/Mountain Goat hybrid on Adderall.

  • 06-16-2007
    kithawk
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    reducer cups
    I'm building an uberV on a budget and have a reducer cup (headset adapter) issue exacerbated by the use of a double crown fork.

    By calling every cannondale dealer within 100 miles of LA, I found a store with some older, slightly used super v reducer cups lying about in their shop. I immediately bought all they had -two pair- and had them sent to me sight unseen.

    The 1", riser, bottom cup went in like butter- perfect fit, perfect insertion depth. Yet, the top, short cups don't seem to match. It isn't the insertion depth, however- it's the diameter. the top cups sent to me are too wide for my '97 superV 500 comp head tube by maybe a millimeter or two. Placed end to end with the cup that fits, I can see a slight difference in the diameter of the inserted portion of the the cup.

    Ever heard of this? The different insertion depth appears several times in this thread, but no one mentions a variation in the super V head tube diamter.

    budget uber using some of my old parts:

    97 super V 500 comp frame
    99 130mm marzocchi jr t triple clamp fork
    2006 jekyll V brake swingarm
    2006 fox DHX 7.5x2
    sram x.0 carbon componentry, 9 speed
    velocity cliffhanger wheelset with xtr hubs and v brakes

    I'll save some cash by sticking with the v brakes and rims. The double crown fork has the advantage of being able to reposition the lower crown, but, conversely, the top headset race has to be under the top crown- as near to the frame as possible. I can then use spacers above the crown to raise my stem as desired.

    I need the top reducer cup with the 1mm rise, as low and as flush as the ones posted here so many times, and I'm in the odd situation of only needing the top while having an extra super V bottom cup- the 1"/25mm riser adapter. Anyone want to trade? You can have my bottom if you send me your top.

    My current top reducer cups add a 13mm rise to the stack height and appear to have a 50mm insertion diameter- though they don't fit into my headtube by about one millimeter of excess diameter.

    If I order the gemini cups from cannondale, or some aftermarket reducer cups, will I still have this diameter issue? The milling down of the gemini cups is insertion height, not diameter, right?

    Then again, I need my headtube rig to be short on top, with the riser cup at the bottom. What stops me from mixing the top half of one headset with the bottom half of another? For example, a cane creek doubleXC short above the headtube, and then a regular 1-1/8 headset in the riser reducer cup at the bottom? They both centrally suspend a 1-1/8" steerer, right? The idea makes me cringe a bit, but what's wrong with it?

    I can, of course, just go with a reducer headset discarding the reducer cups. I can just slide my crowns to the desired geometery, but, structurally, I didn't like the idea of sliding the lower crown too high.
  • 06-17-2007
    bbbr
    Been there, done that, had a set of reducers custom made

    The two short ones look like problem solver head tube reducers and they are meant to fit into the Cannondale bearing cup that is pressed into the head tube (they come standard on headshock equipped bikes). All of these parts raises the overall length of the head tube, not want you want.

    My solution was to have a set custom made using the OD of the C'dale bearing cups and the ID of the Problem solver cups. This drawing is one of my early ones, can't seem to find the final version with the correct dimensions on it (the drawing is correct, dimensions are not as was still learning solidworks when i drew this up).

    Accurately measure the various parts, dimension the drawing to your needs and talk to a good machine shop. What i did was to go 0.1" shorter than full press depth (as shown on the drawing it's 0.1" deeper than possible). I had two cups made from a piece of 7075 aluminum i got from McMaster Carr because my local shop didn't have on hand in the correct size. This was not the cheapest route (a little over $80 for materials and machining costs) but it works perfectly. You could probably get away cheaper as you only need one cup.



    Final product:

  • 06-18-2007
    ryguy79
    looks like i'll be going uber soon...should have a swingarm on the way soon courtesy of kithawk.

    thanks kithawk!
  • 06-19-2007
    EliM


    Here's mine- 6" travel rear, and a little over 5" in the front.
    Recently added the shock (Zocchi roco R air) and the swingarm, which is off an old Jekyll.
  • 06-25-2007
    ryguy79
    got a jekyll swingarm now, so i just need a shock, forks, and i guess a reducer and headset, but i need to reread all that stuff in the super v thread again.
  • 06-27-2007
    1975volker
    Super V - Link does not work
    http://forums.mtbr.com/cannondale/any-super-vs-out-there-39049-5.html#post306637

    Its a shame it was very good thread. Im also trying to upgrade my Cannondale Supver V 700 SX.

    Volker
  • 06-27-2007
    Kia Kaha
    Call me stupid but could someone explain to me why do you have to have a Jekyll swingarm, what's the difference between that and the original super V swingarm?
  • 06-27-2007
    MendonCycleSmith
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kia Kaha
    Call me stupid but could someone explain to me why do you have to have a Jekyll swingarm, what's the difference between that and the original super V swingarm?

    The SV arms mount the shock ahead of the front derailleur mount tube, the Jekyll styles mount rearward. The extra space allows for a longer shock, thus more travel. :thumbsup:
  • 06-27-2007
    Kia Kaha
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    Thanks for your reply Mendon

    I guess the reason I'm a bit confused is that my Super V seems to have a different swingarm to every other one in this thread? I bought this bike on ebay about 4 years ago and I believe it's an '01 or '02 model.

    Attachment 275223

    Attachment 275224

    You can see the shock mount is set a bit higher up and further back than it is on the older Super V swingarms. Do you think I could get away with using the bigger shock by just drilling the tabs on the frame and using that swingarm?
  • 06-27-2007
    bbbr
    you can modify the frame to get more travel but that swingarm may crack as it's one of the dreaded "bonded" ones. Here's a thread on the topic: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...onded+swingarm
  • 06-27-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kia Kaha
    Do you think I could get away with using the bigger shock by just drilling the tabs on the frame and using that swingarm?

    As noted by bbbr, you could turn it into an Uber but it may be more than the bonded swingarm could bear. Also keep in mind that you could dramatically improve the performance of your bike with no frame modification just by upgrading to a modern 6.5"x1.5" platform shock like the Fox RP23. But you still probably want to try to find a Jekyll swingarm for peace of mind (and body).
  • 06-27-2007
    ryguy79
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 1975volker
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=306637&page=5

    Its a shame it was very good thread. Im also trying to upgrade my Cannondale Supver V 700 SX.

    Volker


    you can still view it when you're logged out, which is good for me since i need to do a lot of re-reading in that thread before i finish my uber build.
  • 06-28-2007
    1975volker
    Jekyll II Swingarm
    Hello, I just wondered is this really a Jekyll Swingarm ?

    http://cgi.ebay.de/Cannondale-Jekyll...ayphotohosting

    Is this swingarm really lighter than the bone one ?

    Thank you Volker
  • 06-28-2007
    Kia Kaha
    Thanks for your help guys, I'm thinking if I have to go buy expensive platform shocks I might as well do it once do it properly and get a 7.5" one, guess I'll have to start prowling ebay for Jekyll swingarms like everyone else then :(

    At the front end, what do you guys think of a Manitou Stance Blunt fork with 170 mm (6.5") travel and a 1.5" steering tube? - I know a guy who's selling one dead cheap at the moment. Is that total overkill and if so, is it possible to modify the travel to a more reasonable 130ish? Will it slot right into the frame with that 1.5" steerer or is there more tricky Cannondale proprietary stuff that I need to be aware of?
  • 06-28-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 1975volker
    Hello, I just wondered is this really a Jekyll Swingarm ?

    http://cgi.ebay.de/Cannondale-Jekyll...ayphotohosting

    Is this swingarm really lighter than the bone one ?

    Thank you Volker

    Yes - that's a Jekyll swingarm. These are not the lightest swingarms that C'dale made, but they are the strongest.
  • 06-28-2007
    1975volker
    Which is the lightest swingarm for a Super V 700 from 2000 ? Weight does matter !

    Thank you for your answer.

    Volker
  • 06-28-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 1975volker
    Which is the lightest swingarm for a Super V 700 from 2000 ? Weight does matter !

    The lightest swingarm is the CAAD4 which was originally designed for the Raven II. You will never notice the weight difference of a swingarm while riding since the additional weight is directly under your center of gravity. And you may also experience tire clearance issues witht the CAAD4. But at least you'll be able to tell your friends that yours is lighter...:madman:
  • 06-28-2007
    MendonCycleSmith
    I've seen so many of those break, it's kinda scary. Not saying it's going to blow up today, but I'd source a better arm, if you plan to use that bike long term.
  • 06-28-2007
    1975volker
    ISO 2000 Norm brake - Jeckyll
    How long is the distance between the wholes of the brake braket of the Jeckyll swingarm ?

    I don`t know whether my Magura Louise does fit.

    Thanks Volker
  • 06-28-2007
    jeffj
    It's not the distance of the holes from each other, it's the offset difference from the inside of the rear dropouts to the inside of the rear disc tabs and 2000 and later should be fine.
  • 06-29-2007
    1975volker
    Thank you, for your advice. I`such an Cannondale geek. I just can`t sell my Super V.

    Regards Volker
  • 06-29-2007
    BigToe
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    Here's Mine...
    This is my current Uber...

    '98 front with cut tabs, 5th Element Air, '04 Jekyll Rear, Maverick DUC32, Mavic 823, Avid Juicy Carbons, Saint crank with SRAM X.0 drivetrain... lots of misc goodies. It's rockin' 150mm of travel front and rear, 68.5 degree head angle and comes in at about 30lbs even... and that's with the fat tires, a stout AM wheelset and the burly Saint crank. There have been minor changes since this photo was taken, but nothing noteworthy.

    It's funny how many odd reactions I get on the trail... I get a lot of comments from people thinking that it's a heavy "freeride" bike. HAHA!! :rolleyes: I laugh at that one every time I'm motoring up a hill like a goat, or blasting a descent like a banshee! This bike is so good at everything, so balanced, so comfortable, so perfect, it's like having an unfair advantage, I almost feel like like I'm cheating.

    Since deploying the Uber this season, I've made hobby out of going into dealers, riding their "best" offerings, then walking out, shaking my head, and feeling sorry for the Uber-less population, which is usually followed shortly by uncontrollable maniacal laughter :lol: :lol:

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  • 06-30-2007
    rw420
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BigToe
    This bike is so good at everything, so balanced, so comfortable, so perfect, it's like having an unfair advantage, I almost feel like like I'm cheating.

    So funny - that's exactly what we always say! :thumbsup: It really does feel like cheating... especially when you pass them on the climbs. Sweet Rig!
  • 06-30-2007
    ryguy79
    Coils vs Air for uber build
    I've been doing a lot of thinking about shocks and forks for my uber build. I've never been a fan of air shocks. I'm sure the feel of air has come a long way since the last time I rode a bike with air shock and forks (like 2001 or so), but I've always liked the feel of coils. Despite higher weight, I'm considering going coil front and rear. I'm not a big fan of maintenance and like to have as little necessary as possible. I don't want to have to worry about the pressure in my shock and forks. Coming from riding mx bikes as a kid, i'm more comfortable with coils. I just want to ride the damn thing, i don't want to have to pump it.

    I was going to post this in the suspension forum, but since this is specific to building an uber v, i decided to post it here. figured asking the 'uber-v experts' would be my best bet...

    I'm strongly considering a Fox Vanilla fork (unsure exactly which model vanilla, depends on budget) and Vanilla R Pro Pedal shock. The lower price of coils is also very attractive at this point in my life. I've yet to read reviews of these specific products. I know, bad me, its just been on my mind all morning and I wanted to post this while its fresh in my head.

    So, other than extra weight, does anyone know of any drawbacks of such a setup on a uber-v?

    Thanks.
  • 06-30-2007
    jdcamb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BigToe
    This is my current Uber...

    '98 front with cut tabs, 5th Element Air, '04 Jekyll Rear, Maverick DUC32, Mavic 823, Avid Juicy Carbons, Saint crank with SRAM X.0 drivetrain... lots of misc goodies. It's rockin' 150mm of travel front and rear, 68.5 degree head angle and comes in at about 30lbs even... and that's with the fat tires, a stout AM wheelset and the burly Saint crank. There have been minor changes since this photo was taken, but nothing noteworthy.

    It's funny how many odd reactions I get on the trail... I get a lot of comments from people thinking that it's a heavy "freeride" bike. HAHA!! :rolleyes: I laugh at that one every time I'm motoring up a hill like a goat, or blasting a descent like a banshee! This bike is so good at everything, so balanced, so comfortable, so perfect, it's like having an unfair advantage, I almost feel like like I'm cheating.

    Since deploying the Uber this season, I've made hobby out of going into dealers, riding their "best" offerings, then walking out, shaking my head, and feeling sorry for the Uber-less population, which is usually followed shortly by uncontrollable maniacal laughter :lol: :lol:

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    Pretty sweet Uber there Big Toe! :thumbsup:

    Most folks I run into can't believe I still ride a Super V. Not around here so much as when I ride in other places. They usually can't believe it rides as well as it does either.
  • 06-30-2007
    carbon700
    please ignore my post
  • 06-30-2007
    carbon700
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    my uber v, nice to see so many great uber projects here
    I still need to work out a rear shock solution, but the rest is good to go. Enjoy :)
  • 07-02-2007
    lwstrick
    Uber ?
    OK, I've looked around the site and I give up. What's a Uber V, some Exotic German Sport car? Or just a modified Super V? I've got a 96 Super V 700 carbon and a 98 Super V 400 with the active SL swing arm. Neither have disc mounts and I'm looking for options.
    It appears that the Jekyll swing arm fits. Anyone have details or leads on a new swing arm?

    Thanks
  • 07-04-2007
    Kia Kaha
    Cool - got me a Jekyll swing arm (sorry 1975volker if that was you bidding on that one on German ebay - looks like I only outbid somebody by 1 euro! :D )

    lwstrick THIS is the uber V reference thread. Basically as I understand it, it's a super V that's been modified by putting modern long travel front forks and a 7.5" platform damped rear shock on it (a procedure which requires a Jekyll swingarm and potentially some frame surgery). The greatest bike since sliced bread if you believe what these guys are saying, I'm very much looking forward to finding out in the next few days :thumbsup:
  • 07-04-2007
    1975volker
    Yes that was me :-). How much is the shipping to the USA ?

    But I own a pbone one, which also works. But the Jeckyll Swingarm is about 237g lighter and as rumors say - stronger.

    I just bought a 7,5 Fox Vanilla R. Hopefully the platform damping is working.

    Volker
  • 07-04-2007
    ryguy79
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryguy79
    I've been doing a lot of thinking about shocks and forks for my uber build. I've never been a fan of air shocks. I'm sure the feel of air has come a long way since the last time I rode a bike with air shock and forks (like 2001 or so), but I've always liked the feel of coils. Despite higher weight, I'm considering going coil front and rear. I'm not a big fan of maintenance and like to have as little necessary as possible. I don't want to have to worry about the pressure in my shock and forks. Coming from riding mx bikes as a kid, i'm more comfortable with coils. I just want to ride the damn thing, i don't want to have to pump it.

    I was going to post this in the suspension forum, but since this is specific to building an uber v, i decided to post it here. figured asking the 'uber-v experts' would be my best bet...

    I'm strongly considering a Fox Vanilla fork (unsure exactly which model vanilla, depends on budget) and Vanilla R Pro Pedal shock. The lower price of coils is also very attractive at this point in my life. I've yet to read reviews of these specific products. I know, bad me, its just been on my mind all morning and I wanted to post this while its fresh in my head.

    So, other than extra weight, does anyone know of any drawbacks of such a setup on a uber-v?

    Thanks.

    so i've read all the reviews on this site for those forks and shock and i'm pretty sure this is the route i'll be taking. now, just have to find a new job since i just relocated due to my fiancee's job.

    or get her to pay???
  • 07-04-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryguy79
    I was going to post this in the suspension forum, but since this is specific to building an uber v, i decided to post it here. figured asking the 'uber-v experts' would be my best bet...

    I'm strongly considering a Fox Vanilla fork (unsure exactly which model vanilla, depends on budget) and Vanilla R Pro Pedal shock. The lower price of coils is also very attractive at this point in my life.

    So, other than extra weight, does anyone know of any drawbacks of such a setup on a uber-v?

    I've always used air shocks and forks but I am sure of one thing: You just can't go wrong with Fox Racing Shox :thumbsup:
  • 07-04-2007
    Kia Kaha
    Quote:

    Yes that was me :-). How much is the shipping to the USA ?
    I'm in England not USA, so shipping was normal Europe.

    I'm bloody nervous about drilling this frame though, I think I might take it up to an engineering workshop and get them to do the job properly.

    Can you uber-V gurus do me a big favour and definitively confirm the distance forward the hole needs to be drilled (frame is that blue one in my earlier post). I read the other thread again and there seems to be some debate over half an inch or 7/8 inch or something in between? Why is it not just a straight inch, if you're going from a 6 1/2" to 7 1/2" travel shock?
  • 07-04-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kia Kaha
    Can you uber-V gurus do me a big favour and definitively confirm the distance forward the hole needs to be drilled (frame is that blue one in my earlier post). I read the other thread again and there seems to be some debate over half an inch or 7/8 inch or something in between? Why is it not just a straight inch, if you're going from a 6 1/2" to 7 1/2" travel shock?

    We use 7/8". The main reason that we don't drill a full inch forward is because of sag. The longer shock has an additional 1/2" of stroke. Assuming 25% sag, this results in 1/8" additional sag over the original shock. So under load, the longer shock is only 7/8" longer. We've also found that there are clearance problems around the end of the shock if we drill further forward than 7/8". It is especially tight for medium size frames. I've never tried to modify a small frame but I doubt if you can even drill 7/8" forward of the original holes given the small size of the tabs. But if you can find a '99 frame, you don't have to drill at all! :thumbsup:
  • 07-06-2007
    bbbr
    My Uber light (haven't decided on one way or the other on trimming the tabs down)

    Finally go around to taking a picture of her. It's a 97 SV 2000 frame, 2001 Jekyll swingarm and a mishmash of parts spanning the last decade. Absolute blast to ride and easily capable of keeping up with more modern designs.

  • 07-11-2007
    ryguy79
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    Getting close to Uber!
    Well, i've got almost everything ordered. Fox Vanilla RLC fork, DHX coil shock, reducer cups, and headset. All I need now (i think) is a new stem, but I decided to hold off on that until everything is together. The LBS I'm working with is being very cool about this build (Old Town Bike Shop, Colorado Springs). The main mechanic and I talked about the build for a while and we decided that I'm going to take them the parts, they'll put it together, then once everything is nearly done, I'm going back to the shop and we'll try to get the most comfortable combo of stems and spacers.

    Its just waiting in the closet with jekyll swingarm on it now, awaiting new its new toys.
  • 07-14-2007
    ajm
    You guys (you know who) gotta stop the GAY smiley guy with the thumbs up. It's like a bunch of high school girls texting...HAHA...
  • 07-16-2007
    Kia Kaha
    Well lucky for you that you didn't buy that ebay Jekyll swingarm 1975volker - it's a ripoff, been over 2 weeks now and I've received no swingarm, no communication, no refund, nothing :madmax: :madman:

    Anyone else got any ideas on where to find one in UK / Europe?
  • 07-16-2007
    nic
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    Uber transformation Complete (well almost)
    As I have now almost completed the upgrading of my Uber V I thought I would add the latest photo.

    I have included the photo from the last thread, with the bonded swingarm and moto FR forks.

    I have replaced the swing arm with a CAAD4. It was originally a mustard yellow colour, but cleaned it back to alluminium and polished it. At the same time I replaced the Hope brakes with Shimano XT brakes with Dual control levers. This also required an upgrade to 9 speed at the same time.

    The only mods left are a stem with a steeper angle, new seatpost, as the one I have has been trimmed too short, and to change the spring in the Lefty from a brown to red spring to soften the front slightly.
  • 07-16-2007
    1975volker
    Maybe he is on holiday. Ebay is always dangerous. I lost also 100 Euro. Wanted to buy a motorolla phone. No phone, no respond nothing.

    Hope you get this thing.

    Volker
  • 07-16-2007
    ryguy79
    nic, nice looking bike. can't wait to finish mine.
  • 07-21-2007
    HiVaru
    Hi all,
    i have a wonder 00' super V upgreaded to caad 4.I bougut a Rock shox Revelation air 130with u turn.Now i must change the rear shox but i don't know if 7.5 will be a good solution for (my) geometry...i use this bike 360,for go work, so i must do a lot of street but wen a can All-mountains(i live in the italians Alps). 138r(6.5) and 130f (like now) will crash?150(7.5)r and 130f is only a good trial geometry?with 150 r, using the u-turn , 110 fron, will i have a xc geometry?
    Thx Marco
  • 07-21-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HiVaru
    Hi all,
    i have a wonder 00' super V upgreaded to caad 4.I bougut a Rock shox Revelation air 130with u turn.Now i must change the rear shox but i don't know if 7.5 will be a good solution for (my) geometry...i use this bike 360,for go work, so i must do a lot of street but wen a can All-mountains(i live in the italians Alps). 138r(6.5) and 130f (like now) will crash?150(7.5)r and 130f is only a good trial geometry?with 150 r, using the u-turn , 110 fron, will i have a xc geometry?
    Thx Marco

    OK. I think I understand what you are asking.

    You need a 6.5"x1.5" shock unless you modify the frame by cutting the tabs. If you move the forward shock mount, you could use a 7.5"x2" shock. The bike will work well in either configuration. The longer travel Uber V is just better for more aggressive trail riding.

    And yes, the frame geometry will be more xc with the fork dialed down.
  • 07-22-2007
    evo233
    Hi every one. I some what recently started getting back into biking seriously, and have a 97' super V that i want to convert to an uber. I'm not a bike expert yet, so i'm sorry if this sounds dumb, but what exactly are the rear tabs. if some one could point it out on a picture or something, and explain what you have to do to them to fit a Jekyll swing arm on my bike would be a great help. Sorry to ask this, but i'm still a noob when it comes to bike mods and parts. thanks.
  • 07-22-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by evo233
    Hi every one. I some what recently started getting back into biking seriously, and have a 97' super V that i want to convert to an uber. I'm not a bike expert yet, so i'm sorry if this sounds dumb, but what exactly are the rear tabs. if some one could point it out on a picture or something, and explain what you have to do to them to fit a Jekyll swing arm on my bike would be a great help. Sorry to ask this, but i'm still a noob when it comes to bike mods and parts. thanks.

    Check out this thread:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=39049
    Set the Display Mode to 'Linear Mode' and start reading on page 3 or 4. There are some pictures showing how the conversion is done. The modification is done to the frame front to fit a longer shock. The jekyll swingarm bolts on with no modification.
  • 07-22-2007
    evo233
    Thanks for telling me where it is on that thread, but for some reason the thread doesn't work. when ever i click on the link you gave me, or go to it through the forum the page just stays white. does any one else have this problem?
  • 07-22-2007
    evo233
    Ok, i actually managed to find the pics cached through Google (i don't know whats up with the actuall thread). I thought thats what the tabs were, but when i first looked at them i didn't look like there was enough room to cut. I'm pretty set on doing this mod now though, so i'm going to start looking for a swing arm. thanks.
  • 07-22-2007
    rw420
    Tab Cutting
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by evo233
    Ok, i actually managed to find the pics cached through Google (i don't know whats up with the actuall thread). I thought thats what the tabs were, but when i first looked at them i didn't look like there was enough room to cut. I'm pretty set on doing this mod now though, so i'm going to start looking for a swing arm. thanks.

    It's the thread called 'Any Super V's Out There'. If your looking for it in the main Cannondale forum list its been about 4 weeks since anyone posted. There's also a link to it through Tony's 'Post Your Pics' sticky. The pictures showing cut tabs show up around page 4 or so.

    Post a pic of your existing set up before doing anything drastic so we can make sure we're on the same page. If you happen to have a '99 frame, no modification is necessary.

    If you want to modify the tabs, the procedure involves drilling new holes 7/8" forward of the existing ones and cutting off the excess tab material. It is important to make sure that the holes in each tab line up with each other. I think this is the best procedure I've seen yet:
    1. Remove the existing shock.
    2. Measure forward 7/8" on one of the tabs and mark the location of the new hole.
    3. Drill a small pilot hole through the mark.
    4. Use the appropriate size drill (I think it's 1/4") and finish drilling the hole in the tab.
      Use a good sharp bit and be gentle until you have a feel for it.
    5. Draw the new shape of the tab around the new hole and cut off the excess material.
    6. Draw the same shape on the other, unmodified, tab and cut it to match.
    7. Bolt your shock into the swingarm and line up the front end with the new bolt hole. Make sure that it is perfectly lined up and then squeeze the tabs together with a c-clamp to hold everything in place.
    8. Double check the alignment with the drill bit and then drill straight through the other tab using the shock eyelet/bushing as a guide. A sharp bit will have no problem cutting through the aluminium tab and the alignment should be perfect.
  • 07-22-2007
    Kia Kaha
    If any of you USA guys are watching there's a Jekyll frame and swingarm going here for $50 with only a few hours to go ...

    ebay item number 150143734225
  • 07-23-2007
    HiVaru
    is this a
    You need a 6.5"x1.5" shock unless you modify the frame by cutting the tabs. If you move the forward shock mount, you could use a 7.5"x2" shock. The bike will work well in either configuration. The longer travel Uber V is just better for more aggressive trail riding.
    And yes, the frame geometry will be more xc with the fork dialed down.[/QUOTE]





    I hope this is a 99 frame with short tabs...isn't it?
  • 07-23-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HiVaru
    I hope this is a 99 frame with short tabs...isn't it?

    Yes it is a '99. The geometry is very slack with the 6.5" shock you have now. It will be much better with a 7.5" shock and the new fork.
  • 07-23-2007
    HiVaru
    yeah...but i feel good with this geometry...
    So new shok.
  • 07-27-2007
    ryguy79
    Screw FedEx!
    I've been tracking the rest of the parts for my uber build (fox vanilla rlc and mounting hardware for my DHX) and for the last 2 days fed ex has tried to deliver both days while i've been home, and because our apartment buildings are locked it says delivery exception - recipient security delay on both days. This pisses me off. All they have to do is buzz my apartment so I can let them in. Lazy *******s. So now, because I don't trust that they'll try again tomorrow with any more effort than the last two days, I have to cancel on a golf outing (don't really care about golf) with my best friend from high school so I can pick up the damn parts!

    All they had to do was buzz my apartment! The apartment #s and buttons are right next to the building doors!
  • 07-30-2007
    ryguy79
    1 Attachment(s)
    Well, its got an uber rear end now. I rode it last night for the first time with the DHX mounted up and the rear end felt great. The bike handled pretty goofy though, with the uber rear and headshok combo. Its at the LBS today getting the forks installed. I'm picking it up tomorrow. :thumbsup:
  • 07-30-2007
    ryguy79
    1 Attachment(s)
    My Uber is finsished!!!
    Going to ride in a little bit. The LBS got it done quickly. Just picked it up after getting the fork installed. Many thanks to rw420 for all the help and advice.
  • 07-30-2007
    ryguy79
    5 Attachment(s)
    well, that was way fun. it rides like i always wished it did. i couldn't be happier. sure, it'll take some time to fine tune the suspension, but its a huge improvement. took some photos with my phone, so they're not the best.
  • 08-03-2007
    ryguy79
    What's the widest rear tire you guys have run with the jekyll swingarm? I've got panaracer fire xc 2.1 front and rear. There's a lot of sand where I ride so I'd like to try a wider tire. I've got plenty of space to go wider up front, but there isn't much clearance on the swingarm.
  • 08-03-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryguy79
    What's the widest rear tire you guys have run with the jekyll swingarm? I've got panaracer fire xc 2.1 front and rear. There's a lot of sand where I ride so I'd like to try a wider tire. I've got plenty of space to go wider up front, but there isn't much clearance on the swingarm.

    Our East Coast conditions are very different than what you're riding but my thought is that you should start by going with a bigger front tire and leave the rear as is. I think that you'll find that the bigger front tire will make the difference you're looking for.

    I run a 2.3 Conti Vertical Pro UST tire on the rear and a 2.2 Specialized Enduro Pro (non-ust) tire on the front. The version of the Specialized tire I use is no longer available:mad: but we've been able to find them occasionally on ebay. But I also run a different version of the Jekyll swingarm than you do. Yours is the CAAD4 which is a bit lighter but has less clearance for bigger tires. I've always had trouble fitting a 2.3 Vertical in a CAAD4 swingarm without some rubbing. So there's another reason to stick with the Panaracer on the rear.
  • 08-03-2007
    ryguy79
    Thats what I was thinking. There's a little bit of clearance on the 2.1 but I wasn't sure if anyone had tried anything larger. I saw some threads with sketchy info about tire sizes on jekylls so I thought I'd ask here. I think I'm going to just try the front first. Its cheaper that way too! I really love the way the panaracers hook up out here, but the next step up in the fire series is the FR 2.4. Or DH 2.3, but its way heavy.
  • 08-03-2007
    ryguy79
    action shots!
    finally got some shots on the uber. have i said that i love this bike???

















  • 08-04-2007
    jdcamb
    Cool shots dude! Let me know if you need some setup help....

    Jim
  • 08-05-2007
    BigToe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryguy79
    What's the widest rear tire you guys have run with the jekyll swingarm? I've got panaracer fire xc 2.1 front and rear. There's a lot of sand where I ride so I'd like to try a wider tire. I've got plenty of space to go wider up front, but there isn't much clearance on the swingarm.

    I'm running 2.3 Hutchinson Pythons... no issues with tire clearance (although it's close), however, those particular tires like to pickup small rocks with the side treads, which then hit the chainstay when it rotates through. I don't see how you could fit anything bigger than a 2.3 in the Jekyll swingarm. I've even thought about going back to a 2.1 on the rear, just to avoid the annoyance of the rocks hitting, but it rides so sweet with the bigger meats that I just can't bring myself to make the swap.

    Congrats on finishing your Uber, Ryguy... it looks great! Enjoy the ride and welcome to the UberHood!! :thumbsup:
  • 08-05-2007
    ajm
    Agreed! Nice UberV photos. It certainly looks like you are using all the travel on your big drop to flat photo. Make sure that you pay close attention to your DHX Air bottom out settings. If you hear the distinct metal 'clank' when landing, your frame may be taking excessive stress. This is unnecessary because adding 1/2 turn or so of bottom out resistance will allow you to still use ALL of your travel without the 'clank". You should rarely ever feel bottom with a properly adjusted DHX. :rockon:
  • 08-05-2007
    ryguy79
    nope, no bottoming out. i've got the bottom out set up for it. no clank. :thumbsup:
  • 08-05-2007
    ryguy79
    now i'm just trying to figure out what to do with the drivetrain. i'm thinking about going to 2x9 and bashguard because i never use the big ring and its very rocky here, but all the different bb types and sizes have me thoroughly confused. bike still has the stock 8sp stuff from way back in 99.
  • 08-05-2007
    BigToe
    It's working for me...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryguy79
    now i'm just trying to figure out what to do with the drivetrain. i'm thinking about going to 2x9 and bashguard because i never use the big ring and its very rocky here, but all the different bb types and sizes have me thoroughly confused. bike still has the stock 8sp stuff from way back in 99.

    FWIW, I'm running 2x9 with a bashguard and it's working out great! I didn't have to change anything (alignment-wise) from when I was running 3x9, although I'd like to switch to a med cage rear mech when I have the $$.
  • 08-06-2007
    oister
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BigToe
    I'm running 2.3 Hutchinson Pythons... no issues with tire clearance (although it's close), however, those particular tires like to pickup small rocks with the side treads, which then hit the chainstay when it rotates through. I don't see how you could fit anything bigger than a 2.3 in the Jekyll swingarm. I've even thought about going back to a 2.1 on the rear, just to avoid the annoyance of the rocks hitting, but it rides so sweet with the bigger meats that I just can't bring myself to make the swap.

    Congrats on finishing your Uber, Ryguy... it looks great! Enjoy the ride and welcome to the UberHood!! :thumbsup:

    I am using Kenda Nevegal 2.35 in the rear and it clears fine.
  • 08-12-2007
    jdcamb
    They also race amazingly well! Right AJM? :D
  • 08-12-2007
    ajm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jdcamb
    They also race amazingly well! Right AJM? :D

    Damn straight!!!
  • 08-12-2007
    Scathel


    Looks like you could do with a shorter rear mech and some chain shortening to me! I would hate to see how much more your suspension would compress off a larger drop - I would be looking at the set up if I were you buddy.

    Yours in the same colour as my Uber, so it's good to another in Kawasaki green!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryguy79
    What's the widest rear tire you guys have run with the jekyll swingarm? I've got panaracer fire xc 2.1 front and rear. There's a lot of sand where I ride so I'd like to try a wider tire. I've got plenty of space to go wider up front, but there isn't much clearance on the swingarm.

    I tried a Nokian Gazzaloddi 2.3 in the swing arm, and that rubbed a lot. Agreed that is a very knobbly tyre, and with the knobbles it like a very tall tyre.
    I found a Vertical Pro 2.3 on the back of my M1000, so I've slapped that on instead and with the much lower grip profile, it's been fine on the two outings I have had on it.

    I'll get some pics posted as soon as I can!
  • 08-12-2007
    ryguy79
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Scathel

    Looks like you could do with a shorter rear mech and some chain shortening to me! I would hate to see how much more your suspension would compress off a larger drop - I would be looking at the set up if I were you buddy.

    Yours in the same colour as my Uber, so it's good to another in Kawasaki green!



    I tried a Nokian Gazzaloddi 2.3 in the swing arm, and that rubbed a lot. Agreed that is a very knobbly tyre, and with the knobbles it like a very tall tyre.
    I found a Vertical Pro 2.3 on the back of my M1000, so I've slapped that on instead and with the much lower grip profile, it's been fine on the two outings I have had on it.

    I'll get some pics posted as soon as I can!

    Thanks for the advice, but since i don't drop anything bigger, i'll leave it as is. i like it as plush as possible for what i ride. regarding the chain/rear derailleur, i'll soon be ditching the old 8 speed stuff for a 2x9 setup so its all going to change anyway.
  • 08-14-2007
    oister
    I noticed a lot of you use the 5th Element Air shock, so what brand of shock pump will work with that shock? I tried Performance Bike's house brand and some other brand, but neither of them can engage the valve when fully threaded in.
  • 08-15-2007
    ajm
    1 Attachment(s)
    Uber V Light
    The newest addition to our family! This Uber Light is the 4" rear travel version built for my wife. It comes equipped with a Fox RP23 shock and a Talas fork.
  • 08-15-2007
    rw420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by oister
    I noticed a lot of you use the 5th Element Air shock, so what brand of shock pump will work with that shock? I tried Performance Bike's house brand and some other brand, but neither of them can engage the valve when fully threaded in.

    The pumps that originally came with the 5th Air from Progressive are often available on ebay. Fox Pumps are similar and also work fine. The ones that don't work have large heads that hit the can before they are threaded in far enough to engage the valve.
  • 08-15-2007
    MendonCycleSmith
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ajm
    The newest addition to our family! This Uber Light is the 4" rear travel version built for my wife. It comes equipped with a Fox RP23 shock and a Talas fork.

    Sweeeeet! Looks like the grass could use some water though :D
  • 08-16-2007
    ajm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Sweeeeet! Looks like the grass could use some water though :D

    Conservation my friend. No need to waste such a valuable resource (water) in these drought like conditions. Let's leave the ultra-green grass to the non riding family across the street. :madmax:
  • 08-16-2007
    ajm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Sweeeeet! Looks like the grass could use some water though :D

    Conservation my friend. No need to waste such a valuable resource (water) in these drought like conditions. Let's leave the ultra-green grass to the non riding family across the street. :madmax:
  • 08-16-2007
    ajm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Sweeeeet! Looks like the grass could use some water though :D

    Conservation my friend. No need to waste such a valuable resource (water) in these drought like conditions. Let's leave the ultra-green grass to the non riding family across the street. :madmax:
  • 08-16-2007
    ajm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Sweeeeet! Looks like the grass could use some water though :D

    Conservation my friend. No need to waste such a valuable resource (water) in these drought like conditions. Let's leave the ultra-green grass to the non riding family across the street. :nono:
  • 08-16-2007
    ajm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Sweeeeet! Looks like the grass could use some water though :D

    Conservation my friend. No need to waste such a valuable resource (water) in these drought like conditions. Let's leave the ultra-green grass to the non riding family across the street. :nono:
  • 08-16-2007
    ajm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Sweeeeet! Looks like the grass could use some water though :D

    Conservation my friend. No need to waste such a valuable resource (water) in these drought like conditions. Let's leave the ultra-green grass to the non riding family across the street. :nono:
  • 08-16-2007
    ajm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Sweeeeet! Looks like the grass could use some water though :D

    Conservation my friend. No need to waste such a valuable resource (water) in these drought like conditions. Let's leave the ultra-green grass to the non riding family across the street. :nono:
  • 08-16-2007
    ajm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Sweeeeet! Looks like the grass could use some water though :D

    Conservation my friend. No need to waste such a valuable resource (water) in these drought like conditions. Let's leave the ultra-green grass to the non riding family across the street.
  • 08-16-2007
    ajm
    Conservation my friend. No need to waste such a valuable resource (water) in these drought like conditions. Let's leave the ultra-green grass to the non riding family across the street.
  • 08-17-2007
    heartfixer
    Could you post that reply a few more times?
  • 08-17-2007
    MendonCycleSmith
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by heartfixer
    Could you post that reply a few more times?


    That was kinda funny huh? :D
  • 08-17-2007
    heartfixer
    I was afraid maybe he had a siezure with his finger poised over the mouse button....

    Or an orgasm. I don't know how he feels about biking, but as for me, I love it!