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    Post your Taurine

    Hello, I 'm Steven from Belgium and I 'm new around here. Finally got an account.
    So, as I said: let's post some Taurines!

    Here you can find some pics of me latest bike. It took over 5 months to get the bike...
    http://i3.pinkbike.com/photo/1406/pbpic1406306.jpg
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    Some specs:
    Frame: Taurine Carbon SI (framekit)
    Fork: Lefy Speed Carbon SL 110 DLR2
    Wheels: Mavic Crossmax SLR
    Tires: Schwalbe Nobby Nic
    Pedals: Crank Bros Eggbeater 4Ti
    Crank: FRM CU2 M27
    Chain: Sram PC991
    Cassette: Shimano XTR
    Derailleur front: Shimano XTR
    Derailleur rear: Shimano XTR
    Shifters: Shimano XTR Rapidfire
    Bar: Ritchey WCS Carbon flat bar
    Grips: Ritchey WCS
    Bar-ends: C'dale Ultra Light bar ends
    Stem: C'dale XC3 Team stem
    Headset: C'dale Headshok Si
    Brakes: Hope Mini's met floating discs v:160 - a: 160 mm
    Saddle: Sella Italia SLR Kit Carbonio flow
    Seat post: Ritchey WCS Carbon
    Color: Team Replica
    Size: Medium
    Weight: 9,04 kg
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    Looks fast standing still! You have a great, lusty bike... but it's way too clean.

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    Still working on that...but it 's very hard to find some mud...
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    No mud in Belgium?

    Nice bike! That thing must fly.

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    With the 4Ti's

    Does your heel/shoe ever hit your crank? I am thinking of trying the 4Ti's but due to my leg physiology, I need to have my heel turned in a bit on my right foot and I am concerned that the short spindle on the crank brothers will cause my heel to hit the crank on every revolution.

    My Large Taurine weighs 19.84 with EVERYTHING - bottle cages, etc.. I will post pics soon. It is the best handling bike I have ever owned. I give credit to the incredible lefty and the stiffness of the frame. Hard to justify a dualie when this frame mutes the trail vibration so much.

    ONLY complaint is that the BB is so low I hit my pedals on roots, etc.. (Time ATAC Pedals). Thinking the crank bros would give me a little more clearance. Also, my rear Racing Ralph in a 2.1 size is more like a 1.9 and I only run 31psi - so I think going to a RR 2.25 will raise my BB heigh a bit. Catching your pedals can put you into the trees hard - no fun. So I need to fix this.

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    Steve that bike is nice. But, what's up with the FRM cranks? Seems sac religious to take off the great SI cranks and put those on!! I had a set of those things come apart in a race. Where the spindle is fixed to the driveside crank arm, just pulled right out. I read that many others had the same problem. Some people were threading the spindle and using a fixing bolt similar to the non drive side to fix the problem. Just thought I'd let you know.
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    Is it any lower than most racy hardtails? You can't just pedal without taking rocks and roots into account, sometimes you need to slow or stop your pedaling a bit to go through some sections, it's always been one of the skills needed for mountain biking, on full rigid bikes as with skyscraper tall FS bikes. It wont be better with the eggs, they are not that much lower profiled and worse, they often release your foot when they hit something. They are still the best pedals even with that slight negative point but it's another reason to avoid banging them everywhere...

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    I found the crank choice odd too... I'd get a Hollowgram SL with only two chainrings on that bike...

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    About the crank choice... I 've bought a Taurine frame kit (frame + Lefty); the sublime Cannondale SI-crank is not delivered with the kit. Off course, I wanted that crank, but it costs about 1000 Euros (1300 USD / 680 BP) when bought seperately... Even me C'dale dealer said it was too much... So, it became the FRM.

    @jtc1: there is still a bit space I guess to turn your foot in. I think the biggest problem will be the small space between your heel and the chainstay...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Looks fast standing still!
    Thats exactly what I thought when I saw those pics...It looks like it will go ride the trails by itself while you are at work.

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    BB height

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Is it any lower than most racy hardtails? You can't just pedal without taking rocks and roots into account, sometimes you need to slow or stop your pedaling a bit to go through some sections, it's always been one of the skills needed for mountain biking, on full rigid bikes as with skyscraper tall FS bikes. It wont be better with the eggs, they are not that much lower profiled and worse, they often release your foot when they hit something. They are still the best pedals even with that slight negative point but it's another reason to avoid banging them everywhere...

    As measured it is a very low BB - and then with the low profile tire and low air pressure, I think my set-up is unusually low. Sure, a race bike will have a low bb to improve handling, but to be at risk for so many small stumps hitting the pedals it can actually cost lap time. I am coming from a Turner Nitrous - so I was a little spoiled in being able to just pedal through everything. I think just going to a larger rear tie will give me just the little bit of height I need.

    Still cant get over what a stiff frame fork combo this bike is - and the carbon mutes the trail buzz so much I just dont feel there is much advantage to a short travel dualie anymore.

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    What chainrings are you running?

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    Still original...the FRM's...
    Will be soon replaced by TA Specialités.
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    stem

    which stem are you using? seems a 100 -5 degrees. it's right?

    ciao
    thanks

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    I also have a question but about your bar ends. Did you weigh them? And are they available from any Cannondale dealer yet?

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    Yep, that 's the one. I 'm considering a 120 mm (or 110 mm when possible).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    I also have a question but about your bar ends. Did you weigh them? And are they available from any Cannondale dealer yet?
    No, I didn't weigh them... It should be about 60 gr. I bought these bar ends mid April...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenvde
    No, I didn't weigh them... It should be about 60 gr. I bought these bar ends mid April...
    I found out they are rebranded Smica/Post Moderne bar-ends... around 60gr indeed, I found some Smica for super cheap, no Cannondale logo but still, they are the same light bar-ends and they were cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    I found out they are rebranded Smica/Post Moderne bar-ends...
    My C'dale dealer told me the same...
    Great bar-ends: nice design, light and efficient stuff to use. These bar-ends will also be mounted on my GT...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenvde
    My C'dale dealer told me the same...
    Great bar-ends: nice design, light and efficient stuff to use. These bar-ends will also be mounted on my GT...
    I personnaly like the fact that, as opposed to most bar-ends, the mounting bolts are toward the back, away from where you actually grab them.

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    Some updates:
    - Schmolke carbon flat bar SL
    - Schmolke carbon seatpost (in back-order - will be delivered soon)
    - Tune Speedneedle
    - Shimano XTR Shadow



    Road set-up... I often use the bike for the ride to my work...

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    Nice Taurine, when the weather's good I'll take some pictures of mine. I was thinking of getting an XTR Shadow, but I've read a few posts saying they have problems with the arm spring coming off. Have you had any problems.

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    I put the Shadow on the bike about 3-4 months ago and still no problems at all. If adjusted properly, it 's a pleasure to ride with.
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    that seat looks downright painful..."needle" is appropriate. ouch.

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    some taurines on www.eliflap.it

    i owned 2 taurine ...

    very well-done frame , a weapon on track

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    ... and if we just ...

    be careful of high winds, you may see your bike going away like a feather...

    that got to be a light bike...
    <- im sooo jealous
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    New question here. bottom braket

    i love my taurine but there are some minor issues:
    • my taurine Large BB is so low that i hit the crowns almost at every ride!
    • rear brake mount flexes a little bit too much and sometimes squeaks (or even craks -just sound)
    • the steer angle is a little bit too steep (also with lefty) and the bike is a little bit to much nervous.

    feel free to comment this points!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by michelefiorentin
    i love my taurine but there are some minor issues:
    • my taurine Large BB is so low that i hit the crowns almost at every ride! Yes, happened already a few times. The 'low' 1.8 Schwalbes are one of the reasons, as well as the positions of the bb.
    • rear brake mount flexes a little bit too much and sometimes squeaks (or even craks -just sound) never noticed it before...
    • the steer angle is a little bit too steep (also with lefty) and the bike is a little bit to much nervous. So, it 's a perfect match...I am a bit nervous as well... Bike can be a bit nervous, that 's true, but still easy to control

    feel free to comment this points!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by michelefiorentin
    i love my taurine but there are some minor issues:
    • my taurine Large BB is so low that i hit the crowns almost at every ride!
    • rear brake mount flexes a little bit too much and sometimes squeaks (or even craks -just sound)
    • the steer angle is a little bit too steep (also with lefty) and the bike is a little bit to much nervous.

    feel free to comment this points!!
    The Taurine is not a trail cruiser, it's a full on XC race bike so a low bb and steep head angle is to be expected. As for the rear brake, I would suspect a mis-align caliper, caliper adaptor before the frame... Might be worth it to take the caliper off, the adaptor off, clean everything including the bolts and re-install.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michelefiorentin
    [*]my taurine Large BB is so low that i hit the crowns almost at every ride!

    What does this mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress
    What does this mean?
    Crowns:


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    What if I don't have crowns? Will I need them after my bike arrives?

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    Nope, you're lucky, you have less chance to hit them on every ride.

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    lonely


    This is my taurine awaiting me at the shop. I'll pick it up in a week or two. Let's see some more.
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    Taurine

    My Taurine, excuse the mudguards, but I've been doing some commuting lately.
    Hope to get lighter brakes at some stage. These are quick bikes for racing.
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    This link needs to be placed in the "post your ******* sticky.


    Me and the fastest bike I've ever ridden:



    She's a dirty girl.

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    Good job! my english is sooo bad

    hi taurins (who owns a taurine ),
    I think I wongly translated the italian word "corone" into crowns...


    sorry for that, I learned something today... and I get some fun too!!


    as far concerns the BB, the discussion is pretty open as the one regarding the concept of XC: I ride pretty complex trails with tecnical rocks and trees on my way. My old cannondale fx 700 was some way taller and i can clear them easily. Somebody in this discussion talked about this issue so I wanted to give my opinion about...

    then my crowns are broken!!

    have fun
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    After going on three rides in 2 days, I must say, this is the fastest bike I've ever ridden.

    It feels faster than my road bike (LOOK 565). Going downhill is helluva fast. Just need a longer stem, as climbing with the front wheel on the ground is harder than you would think.

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    Here's mine

    Just finished building yesterday.
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    nice. The black looks alot better with the lefty for some reason. There is a black one with a headshok at my shop, but it doesn't look nearly as nice. I think it's the silver of the clamps and the cranks (from another bike?).
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    The bike looks like an '07 paint scheme. Explains the silver cranks.

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    aah, you're right. I thought they went black with the hollowgram in 07 for some reason.
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    Here's my french taurine 1SL 2008
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    Quote Originally Posted by michelefiorentin
    i love my taurine but there are some minor issues:
    • my taurine Large BB is so low that i hit the crowns almost at every ride!
    • rear brake mount flexes a little bit too much and sometimes squeaks (or even craks -just sound)
    • the steer angle is a little bit too steep (also with lefty) and the bike is a little bit to much nervous.

    feel free to comment this points!!
    1. I've never noticed the low BB. If I suspect something might come close to my chainrings, I avoid it like Neverland Ranch, or get off of the bike.

    2. I don't think I've ever used my rear brake to the point where it would flex. It's a Taurine, not a trials bike.

    3. Nervous? The Taurine descends better than most FS bikes I've ridden. The Lefty is the most confidence inspiring XC fork I've ever ridden. I rode my friend's SID after being on the Lefty and felt like I was going to break it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michelefiorentin
    [*]rear brake mount flexes a little bit too much and sometimes squeaks (or even craks -just sound)
    i can't speak for the canondales but the two scott sparks that i've owned had the same issues of the frame making crazy noises when the rear disc brake is applied forcefully.

    it's a lotta stress on those seatstays and the combo of the brake mount pop-riveted to the frame and the brake forces make those carbon tubes put out some weird cracking noises sometimes.

    also keep your bike clean nothing brings out unknown noises like a dirty sweaty bike.

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    How long is that seatpost?
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    Mine is a 350 or a 400. I have 250mm (exactly) sticking out of the frame, and I'm nowhere near the max.

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    Hello Steven,

    I'm also new @ this forum
    Here are some pic's:
    http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1837976/
    http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1837966/
    http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1836136/
    http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1841162/
    http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1837971/

    latest update specs 09-05-2008 (pic's are older than some specs )
    Frame: Taurine (second frame, first had a crack after 2 month)
    Fork: Lefty Speed Carbon SL DLR 110 (88+ tuned) (1175gr)
    Wheels: Mavic Crossmax SLR (1580gr) + FRM M Team ltd gold (1390gr)
    Tires: Continental Speed King Supersonic (410gr) + Schwalbe Furious Fred (315gr)
    Tubes: Maxxis Flyweight (93gr) + Stan's Notubes
    Pedals: Crankbrothers Candy4Ti (201gr)
    Crank: XTR with Acros BB (ceramic)
    Chain: KNC SL Gold (9spd en 10spd) (221gr + 240gr)
    Cassette: XTR 11-32 + Dura Ace 11-24 (159gr)
    Front der.: XTR topmount
    Rear Der.: XTR shadow mid cage with KCNC gold ceramic jockeys (180gr)
    Shifters: XTR Dualshifters with NOKON der. routing
    Bar: FSA K-Force flatbar 31.8mm (128gr)
    Grips: Fizik Bar:Tape white (17gr)
    Bar ends: KCNC (50gr)
    Stem: cannondale SI one piece stem/steerer 31.8 (with ti bolts)
    Brakes: XTR calipers + Stan's Alu rotors 160mm (61gr) with Hope 6# ti bolts (7gr)
    + Hope floated disc 160mm (90gr) with Hope 6# ti bolts (7gr)
    Saddle: Selle Italia Filte Kit Carbonio white (155gr)
    Seatpost: Syntace P6 31.6x 350mm (215gr)
    Seatclamp: KCNC black 34.9 (15gr)
    Bikecomp: Garmin Edge 705 Cadans/HR (GPS + cadanssensor + stemmount=150gr)
    Bottlecage: Cannondale carbon (21gr) with ti bolts
    Color: black
    Size: Large
    Weight: 8480gr

    New pic's are coming
    Last edited by Futuresoul; 05-10-2008 at 10:35 AM.

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    Again some upgrades...

    - chain KMC X9L Silver
    - Schmolke Carbon seatpost (31.6 mm - 350 mm)
    - Tires: Vredestein Black Panther 2.0 or Vredestein Tiger Claw 2.0 or a mix of these two...




    Me and the Taurine somewhere in the woods in Flanders...



    During the marathon our club did organize last week...



    Kind regards,

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