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    Post your Prophet!

    So I've really done it now. I had been thinking about it for a month, and wasn't sure if I'd really go through with it, but I had my reasons. Thank god for my understanding S.O.

    I had not been wild about the red at first, but every time I saw it in person it looked better. Now I'm really stoked I got it.



    It WAS a 600, but I picked the bike up tonight and hemmed and hawed if I wanted to dig into it tonight. Patience did not win out, so all the good parts off the Jekyll now have a new home.
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    would love to post it.. but it hasn't tuned up yet

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    direktor very nice

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    Building Prophet 1000, now!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by direktor
    So I've really done it now. I had been thinking about it for a month, and wasn't sure if I'd really go through with it, but I had my reasons. Thank god for my understanding S.O.

    I had not been wild about the red at first, but every time I saw it in person it looked better. Now I'm really stoked I got it.



    It WAS a 600, but I picked the bike up tonight and hemmed and hawed if I wanted to dig into it tonight. Patience did not win out, so all the good parts off the Jekyll now have a new home.
    Just got in from Interbike. (I'm supposed to post my photos from there on the forum, just need to process them.) I'm building the bike, Prophet 1000, now. I'll have pics when it is completed. Already replaced shimano chain with SRAM PC-99. Running all my controls on one side is even better with the Avid Juicy 7's. The speed dial can be fitted for either side of the brake mount. Also, have added "a-oooo-ga" horn, can't be too safe.

    We have riding guests the next 6 days, so I want the new ride done before they get here.

    I'm leaving my Jekyll 1000 "as is", with it's PUSH'ed shock, it's quite the nice set-up.

    Rode the Prophet at Interbike. Blown away...
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.J.
    Just got in from Interbike. (I'm supposed to post my photos from there on the forum, just need to process them.) I'm building the bike, Prophet 1000, now. I'll have pics when it is completed. Already replaced shimano chain with SRAM PC-99. Running all my controls on one side is even better with the Avid Juicy 7's. The speed dial can be fitted for either side of the brake mount. Also, have added "a-oooo-ga" horn, can't be too safe.

    We have riding guests the next 6 days, so I want the new ride done before they get here.

    I'm leaving my Jekyll 1000 "as is", with it's PUSH'ed shock, it's quite the nice set-up.

    Rode the Prophet at Interbike. Blown away...
    NICE BIKE! The danger red (that's what I call it) does look nicer in person. I saw it in my lbs and thought that it looked great. Plus, that will attract a great deal of attention. If I am not mistaken, you are the first to post a picture of a Prophet that actually has a home. You realize that we expect your feedback and candor about your new ride once you get some miles on it : Congrats!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gungadin
    NICE BIKE! The danger red (that's what I call it) does look nicer in person. I saw it in my lbs and thought that it looked great. Plus, that will attract a great deal of attention.
    I hope not TOO much. I like the low-key-ness of the embossed decals...it appeals to the same part of me that likes my Jekyll in flat black.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gungadin
    If I am not mistaken, you are the first to post a picture of a Prophet that actually has a home. You realize that we expect your feedback and candor about your new ride once you get some miles on it : Congrats!!!
    I realized that while I was working on it last night. "Wait! I'd be the first to post with one on the board if I did!"

    Riding out on the street last night briefly, honestly, it feels like my Jekyll except a tiny bit taller. It's definitely a little lighter with the same parts. The nay-sayers will not realize that this bike is more about refinement, then revolution.

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    Good job! Nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by direktor
    I hope not TOO much. I like the low-key-ness of the embossed decals...it appeals to the same part of me that likes my Jekyll in flat black.
    I too love the stealth look of those decals. I haven't seen the galvanized gloss paint and sticker job on my Prophet 2000 but the stickers seem barely noticable too. I hate the colorways of the 2005 Scalpels tough. Now ride that thing, get it dirty!

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    Preload?

    Anybody know how to adjust the preload on the 140 Max? I thought the top cap comes off on all Max's to do this, but they changed the top cap this year. New tool?

    [edit-I talked to Tim at Cannondale, and he emailed me the Tech note on the Lefty 140 Preload. Turns out you need a Hollowtech BB tool to remove the top cap. Beyond that, it's just a threaded adjuster]
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    almost there...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gungadin
    NICE BIKE! The danger red (that's what I call it) does look nicer in person. I saw it in my lbs and thought that it looked great. Plus, that will attract a great deal of attention. If I am not mistaken, you are the first to post a picture of a Prophet that actually has a home. You realize that we expect your feedback and candor about your new ride once you get some miles on it : Congrats!!!
    building between chores. We have guests in riding for the next six days, so the bike has to wait. It will be done, today and ridden this afternoon/evening.

    All that is left is cable hook-up/shift adjust

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    sorry...couldn't resist the joke op.

    nice bikes posted here. the prophet is on my list of dream bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by direktor
    I talked to Tim at Cannondale, and he emailed me the Tech note on the Lefty 140 Preload. Turns out you need a Hollowtech BB tool to remove the top cap. Beyond that, it's just a threaded adjuster
    The tool for the integrated-outboard bearing Hollowtech? I was wondering how do we adjust the preload and by looking at the diagram in the 2005 Cannondale brochure, it doesn't look very accessible. So you just open the top cap with the hollowtech tool and then you can adjust by hand or with an allen key or what? I ask because on my Minute 2 fork with SPV, I had to try many settings before I found the perfect setting so I just hope I don't have to buy and carry 45 tools on my first few rides...

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    Dunno

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    The tool for the integrated-outboard bearing Hollowtech? I was wondering how do we adjust the preload and by looking at the diagram in the 2005 Cannondale brochure, it doesn't look very accessible. So you just open the top cap with the hollowtech tool and then you can adjust by hand or with an allen key or what? I ask because on my Minute 2 fork with SPV, I had to try many settings before I found the perfect setting so I just hope I don't have to buy and carry 45 tools on my first few rides...

    I've never had a a Hollowtech BB, so I don't know rightly. It's just called a Hollowtech BB tool in the PDF:

    Lefty Max 140 Preload Adjustment PDF

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    Thanks for the document. Sure looks complicated as hell for just adjusting the preload...

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    Thanx for the pic's guy's. Now go get em dirty and tell us how the stack up!
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    My Prophet built and ready to go!

    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCF&TiPlease
    Thanx for the pic's guy's. Now go get em dirty and tell us how the stack up!
    Got back from Interbike, had a big box waiting for me.

    Just finished, first ride tomorrow morning.

    First pic, new bike Prophet 1000

    Second pic, Mountain Daze poster in Cannondale booth
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    2 levers one hand?

    I've seen front brake levers on the right and rear on the left but both levers on the right? I guess you wouldn't like Shimano Dual-Control levers...

    What size is your bike by the way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    I've seen front brake levers on the right and rear on the left but both levers on the right? I guess you wouldn't like Shimano Dual-Control levers...
    Ya gotta always have one hand on the horn! Must be from Manhatten
    That is kinda trick, what made you try it in the first place?
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    anybody know the MSRP and weight on the 600?? I want one, but I think it's probably out of my price range
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    Nice looking bikes. I may order one of those Prophets. If I do order one I will get the Prophet 1000. The 1000 is loaded with great specs. I like the idea it has Juicy 7 discs and a SRAM drivetrain. That's the one I want. I would get the 2000 but don't like the Shimano XT Dual Controls. The only thing I'd change would be the crank set and a new seatpost and saddle. I like the SRAM triggers alot. The shifting is precise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigguppies92
    anybody know the MSRP and weight on the 600?? I want one, but I think it's probably out of my price range
    $1600 retail for the 600. i'm think about get the 2000 but cost way too much for me. i'm going to call around and see if i can get a good deal on the 2000.

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    special set-up

    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCF&TiPlease
    Ya gotta always have one hand on the horn! Must be from Manhatten
    That is kinda trick, what made you try it in the first place?
    I nearly amputated my hand in an accident. 14 surgeries later, it's still there but doesn't do much.

    I run all controls on the right and velcro my hand to the left. (velcro glued to grip and glove.)

    I had to cut off some of the paddle length on the shifters to make it all fit, as well as reduce the length of the grip.

    I wouldn't be able to use the Shimano "combos" as well as the Marta brakes (can't flip them) so it was the 1000 for me.

    I immediately replaced the chain with SRAM PC-99. I'll give the big handlebar a try, but, if it hurts, off it comes, on goes carbon.

    Horn is for cattle, it's open range out here.

    First ride in a couple hours. Too cold (50 degrees) right now!!!
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    CJ, where did you buy the bell? what brand is it?

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    It's a Hoota!!!!

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    CJ, where did you buy the bell? what brand is it?
    It goes "a-ooo-ga"

    It was in the schwag bag for Dirt Demo at Interbike.
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    Well, it's dirty now.

    But I'm too tired to write about it at the moment. So as not to keep you guys hanging, my subjective opinion is that it's better than my Jekyll.

    I'll edit this post soon...

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    Ok, so I'm fed and a little rested finally. I had been off the bike more or less for a couple weeks, so today's ride was the first real ride in a while.

    I'm not too sure what to say about the bike. To my relatively inexperienced biking self, it feels like a lighter, slightly taller Jekyll. With more travel, of course, but I really didn't use much of it today.

    The Radium R feels good. My first full suspension was the preceding Jekyll, an '02 with a Float R. I'm a big guy, and I had a lot of problems with it pogoing around after short techy climbs. I never realized this until I had been riding longer, but after a while it became a pain. A month ago I sent the Float to PUSH, and it wasn't until after that that I realized how a shock is supposed to work. Suffice to say that the Radium feels almost as good as the PUSHed float.

    There were two nice realizations today on the new bike...I can get behind the seat much easier on the Prophet than my Jekyll. Don't know why, and it doesn't make sense, but I was taking on some things today that I wouldn't have otherwise, just because I could get my weight MUCH farther back easily on the Prophet.

    Also, for the first time I was able to stand on a tricky uphill section and not have the bike bob so badly under me that it would mess me up (that's been a big thing for me, being overweight and all). The bike stayed much more in place under me without undo squishing around.

    Obviously I'm stoked for these victories on the new bike, but I'm not sure how much is the bike and how much of it is psychology/inflated gusto. I should be getting the proper spring for the Max next week, so things should be getting even better.

    Lates,
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    Rebound Control on Lefty TPC (Prophet 1000)

    Got my Prophet 1000 on Saturday (10/9/2004)
    Apparently the rebound control works differently on the new Lefty fork. If the rebound is completely closed it seems to have little affect on the fork when you simply push down on it. I'm hearing it will react to velocity of the hit nearer the bottom of the travel.
    I was thinking it didn't work, however I tested another fork at the LBS and responded the same way. Anybody have the scoop on the rebound control? (This is the fork on the 1000, the 600 has a different fork that behaves as expected.)

    I took the bike out on Green Mt here in Washington twice this weekend. I normally ride a Blur set up with CrossMax SL's and Michelin XL s USTs.

    Negative points first
    Weight penality of the wheels, both wheels, 819, 2.35 highrollers, hubs and cassette weigh 10.5 pounds. Add this to a 20 pound bike and you have 30.5 pounds to pedal uphill. However traction will not be your problem. Can't find a comfortable or efficient position to pedal out of the saddle.
    Positive points. No bob during pedaling on or off the seat. Juicy 7s allow on the fly adjustment to equally set the distance on both brakes. 13.7 inches of BB clearence no hammering the bottoms of the cranks off rocks. The bike just styles with most of its tubes either flaring in or out. I think the seat tube is the only round tube on the bike. A perfect example of this is where the top tube meets the midpoint of the downtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkHL
    Can't find a comfortable or efficient position to pedal out the saddle.
    What do you mean by that?

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    does anyone know if the front lefty hub and rear hub use IS bolt pattern or the shimano lockring for the rotors? also does anyone know how heavy are those maxxis highroller 2.3, seems like 10.5 lb for both set of wheel is very heavy??thanks

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    2.35 Hi-Rollers UST are 740 grams according to Maxxis. I doubt the wheels are 10.5 lbs, these are not CrossMax SL but are no DH wheels either.

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    Forgot... the hubs are the standard 6-bolt pattern.

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    thanks, i guess the advantage of using the shimano lockring rotor system is paying more $$. thanks for all the great pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    2.35 Hi-Rollers UST are 740 grams according to Maxxis. I doubt the wheels are 10.5 lbs, these are not CrossMax SL but are no DH wheels either.
    Gentlemen,

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the 1000 model weighs 30.5 pounds. However I can strap on my 517s, Hugi 240 rear hub, Kenda Karmas (running Stans Tubeless), 15/14 spokes and I have a 27 pound bike for "XC" type rides.

    I'm not sure on that 740 gram quote. I took the front tire off the rim and compared it to a Michelin XL s UST 2.1 (730 grams) and the High Roller was significantly heavier. I guessing 850+. I used an accurate scale to weigh the Prophet. 20lbs without the wheels; and 30.5 with, you do the math. As I stated earlier the wheels were measured with the cassette, brake rotors and rear skewer installed.

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    Hello , the wieght of a prophet 1000 here over in Belgium = 12.55 kg .
    So can there be a diverance between the Us and Europe bikes ?
    I hope to order a 1000 too at the end of the year .
    I still ride the old super v 1995 and a Chase 2

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    there is a big difference on the spec:
    US
    avid juicy7
    32 spoke
    DT champion
    Maxxis High Roller UST, 2.35"
    Shimano PD-M520 pedal
    Europe
    Magura Louise
    24 spoke
    DT compitetion
    Hutchinson Bulldog Light UST 2.3 front2.1 rear
    no pedal
    there are more but i don't have the time to list it all out. i don't know if all the difference will make the US prophet 1000 gain 3lb. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkHL
    I'm not sure on that 740 gram quote. I took the front tire off the rim and compared it to a Michelin XL s UST 2.1 (730 grams) and the High Roller was significantly heavier. I guessing 850+.
    Well as I said, the 740 gram is according to the Maxxis website so it would be very surprising if it were accurate... On a very positive note, swapping tires is very easy and comparing with the euro-spec Prophet, those new Hutchinson Bulldog Light UST seem like a good choice. I'm just wondering when will they be available.

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    If you take the tires weighing in at 740gms each and take a wild guess that that wheelset weighs around 2000 gms that makes for 3480 gms without tubes. That is is almost 8 lbs right there.

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    Smile Galvanized paint job

    Just found a pic to show the finish of the Prophet 2000, very nice! can't wait to get mine...


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    Whats this look?

    Left out in the back garden for the duration of 10 harsh winters.

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    Whats this look?

    Left out in the back garden for the duration of 10 harsh winters.
    Nope, it's called "Let's piss off those people who liked all those ghey fluorescent-fade paint jobs in the 90's"

    Klein, really, you contribute zero here. It's not about whether or not you bait people, or whether or not you're a troll, or whatever. It just comes down to how much you contribute to this community and conversation; and your value as such here is zero. You post only to amuse yourself, and that's selfish.

    Please consider this before posting the next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by direktor
    Nope, it's called "Let's piss off those people who liked all those ghey fluorescent-fade paint jobs in the 90's"

    Klein, really, you contribute zero here. It's not about whether or not you bait people, or whether or not you're a troll, or whatever. It just comes down to how much you contribute to this community and conversation; and your value as such here is zero. You post only to amuse yourself, and that's selfish.

    Please consider this before posting the next time.
    Agreed!

    Klein I'll make you a deal, go back to your Yeti board and I'll send you some bushings for your new ride, cause you're gonna need 'em

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    Am sorry but that paint job is just sick. Its like a mouldy bronze statue look. Just needs some pidgeon stains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleinAttitude
    Am sorry but that paint job is just sick. Its like a mouldy bronze statue look. Just needs some pidgeon stains.
    No, it needs some mud. What? You don't know what mud is? That's right, I forgot you ride your Trek on sidewalks only.

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    As a new user here, and the owner of both Klein and Cannondale bikes, i find this 'kleinattitude' guy a real disgrace on the forums to my old mostly '96 KA.

    Please stop posting your drivel. It's bringing down the good name of the Klein Attitude lineup.
    Also if you're going to be hating on a company, at least be well informed and focused about your attacks as well. Showing some smarts goes a long way. Really.

    In either case, the finish on the metal with those ghosted decals is really quite impressive and convincing. I had to do a doubletake and wonder if the characters were really punched into the thin walled tubing (of course they weren't ).

    Despite the fact i am not terribly thrilled about decals in general, i like how these were executed. Of course being a NYC resident i guess there is bias towards very minimalist graphics on bikes anyhow... as a good number of rides i see on a daily basis are either monochromatic or taped over to some extent.

    Cheers!

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    Lets not get in a row here.

    But that thing looks like it was dug up from when the Prophets where in their teens.

    Had to look hard at how they done it lol.

    Errr did u really ever own a Klein you cant spot a decent paintjob if it hit u square in the face.

    The end. KA dosnt need to argue this one.

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    dude, in the, ohhh, 30 minutes i've spent browsing this board, i've had two realizations. the first was, "whoa, these guys seem to know their stuff with the C'dales, i should read up and hang out more."

    and the second realization was, "damn, KA is an f'ing TROLL..." i mean really, someone should have sicced the ban hamster on you by now, jeez.

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    Don't slice up the troll too bad....

    boy still owes me money.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Well as I said, the 740 gram is according to the Maxxis website so it would be very surprising if it were accurate... On a very positive note, swapping tires is very easy and comparing with the euro-spec Prophet, those new Hutchinson Bulldog Light UST seem like a good choice. I'm just wondering when will they be available.

    I did the very thing last night, swapped out the spongy (42 duro) high rollers for Michelin 2.1s (XL s), bike is noticeably lighter and has a whole lot less rolling resistance.

    I'm not putting the Maxxis tires down, they have their purpose, for every day riding, there is a balance between traction, rotational weight, and rolling resistance.

    Otherwise, we'd all be using 2.7's on our XC bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Just found a pic to show the finish of the Prophet 2000, very nice! can't wait to get mine...

    WOW!! That is one AWESOME paint job or is it raw aluminum?
    Possible to post a pic of the whole bike?
    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmachalek
    WOW!! That is one AWESOME paint job or is it raw aluminum?
    Possible to post a pic of the whole bike?
    Cheers!
    That picture is from cyclingnews.com, I haven't got my bike yet and the Cannondale pictures don't show it well.

    I don't know if it's completely paint or if it's a raw frame with that effect over it in the clearcoat or what. And the embossed logos are under the clearcoat? Under the paint? I'll see when I get it. I found other pictures in the meantime, it looks like it's frozen on the last picture...
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    Dont care much for the saddle though. That would be the first thing that would have to come off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmachalek
    WOW!! That is one AWESOME paint job or is it raw aluminum?
    Apparently, and I quote NSMB again, Cannondale uses special beads to get a really unique finish on the bare frame, then clear-coats it, applies the decaling, and finally, throws on another clear coat.

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