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    @SJS.666 Thanks man, that is exactly the information I was (wasn't :-)) looking for! So Fatty it is and will be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Carson View Post
    Another FNG!

    Just picked up a 2015 BB1. My first bike in over 20 years since racing BMX, and.... yeah I'm out of shape. 10 mile ride up a couple hills and my legs were noodles! haha

    I'll add some pics of the BB to this post when I get home.

    I sifted through about 20 pages of this thread looking for ideas for mods. Looks like most of you are just swapping stock parts with carbon parts for weight reduction? Any "must have" mods you guys can recommend? Primarily street riding for now, may get some cyclocross tires for some easy off road stuff, but that won't be till I get my legs back.

    So far all I've done is remove all the warning stickers (standard protocol) and swap out the stock pedals with my old skool Crupi BMX pedals (way too many scars on my legs to stop using them now).
    As you've only just bought it, I'd be hesitant to change anything until you've established the fit.
    Then if you need to change bits like bars and stems, start looking for "upgrades"
    Eg. Bar length, bar rise and stem length and stem rise.
    Personally, whilst I have carbon bars, mine are more for the bling factor. I'm a Thomson fanboy, so I went in the Thomson direction. Quality parts with bling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantcfr1 View Post
    As you've only just bought it, I'd be hesitant to change anything until you've established the fit.
    Then if you need to change bits like bars and stems, start looking for "upgrades"
    Eg. Bar length, bar rise and stem length and stem rise.
    Personally, whilst I have carbon bars, mine are more for the bling factor. I'm a Thomson fanboy, so I went in the Thomson direction. Quality parts with bling.
    Thanks for the input!

    I've put about 150mi on it so far, but the fit still needs some minor tweaks. I did the plumb line fit for seat height and position, and that's fine... but my shoulders are up like I'm shrugging instead of in a relaxed position. Not sure if that means the bars are too low and too far forward? Could just be my terrible posture from sitting at a desk all day haha.

    My LBS has a Trek Precision Fit machine, but $250 to get that done seems a bit excessive if I'm only riding around town maybe 50mi at the most, plus it doesn't include me getting to do the Goldilocks routine on 50 different seats till I found one that fits my ass "just right".
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    I need some help from older BB model specialists, as I cannot find the answer in the archives. This is said to be a BB Ultra 8 white. How much of it is original? I see some parts that I do not see on other pictures, such as the stem with adjustable angle, white handlebar, white cranks, Cannondale text on the inside of the lefty..

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    Can anyone please advise? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    I need some help from older BB model specialists, as I cannot find the answer in the archives. This is said to be a BB Ultra 8 white. How much of it is original? I see some parts that I do not see on other pictures, such as the stem with adjustable angle, white handlebar, white cranks, Cannondale text on the inside of the lefty..


    Can anyone please advise? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triteacher View Post
    Hi folks,
    question: I own a BB 2010 with a fatty and Alfine 8. Just came across the exact same bike on ebay, just with different frame size and a LEFTY SOLO, which I have been dreaming about for quite a while. Can I be sure the two forks are 100% interchangeable? I am planning on exchanging the forks and reselling the bike on ebay...
    Thanks for your help!
    Is your 2010 Fatty a Headshok (front suspension)? If not, then you can slap on a left solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    What are you trying to accomplish?
    I don't understand that question. I need this info because I am considering to buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    I don't understand that question. I need this info because I am considering to buy it.
    2009 Cannondale Bad Boy Ultra 8 Solo white edition you are considering is not stock: handlebar, cranks, saddle, brakes and stem were all added aftermarket. Would I buy it? Yes....if the price is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Carson View Post
    Thanks for the input!

    I've put about 150mi on it so far, but the fit still needs some minor tweaks. I did the plumb line fit for seat height and position, and that's fine... but my shoulders are up like I'm shrugging instead of in a relaxed position. Not sure if that means the bars are too low and too far forward? ...
    A quick and cheap option is to flip your stem and see if that puts you in a balanced \ comfortable position. I personally enjoy my bars at 680mm wide with a 25mm rise for comfort. Sit on the bike and place your hands in a position you feel will be comfortable. Then try to work out what needs to be adjusted, changed, replaced. Then buy the best you can afford.

    Also in relation to your seat, try to measure your sit bones' width yourself. Then take a tape measure to the shop and match. I personally don't like my saddles to have rounded / dropped edges at the back, as I have found them to not support me high enough, and put pressure on my taint area. My preference is WTB Rocket V and Fizik. Fizik's website gives some easy to understand advice on the three basic ergonomic shapes. I used their advice and they were spot on for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    2009 Cannondale Bad Boy Ultra 8 Solo white edition you are considering is not stock: handlebar, cranks, saddle, brakes and stem were all added aftermarket. Would I buy it? Yes....if the price is right.
    Thanks.
    I also noticed the "Cannondale" text on the inner side of the lefty fork. Can't find that on any other picture of this bike type. Do you know if this could have been added later or has there been an edition with a fork like this?

    Also, the front wheel hub is white. On all pictures of the white edtion it is black.

    I am wondering if this is a genuine BB Ultra White that has been modified. Or another model BB that was changed into a white edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Thanks.
    I also noticed the "Cannondale" text on the inner side of the lefty fork. Can't find that on any other picture of this bike type. Do you know if this could have been added later or has there been an edition with a fork like this?

    Also, the front wheel hub is white. On all pictures of the white edtion it is black.

    I am wondering if this is a genuine BB Ultra White that has been modified. Or another model BB that was changed into a white edition.
    Appears to be a decal, on the inside of fork, as white edition is completely de-badged. I am not sure about front hub because Euro edition bike is different than USA model. It looks like genuine BB white edition, with chainguard removed and some personal paint touches added. However, your questions should be asked to the bike owner, and not this forum. If you do not trust owner, then do not buy.

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    Thanks again. I am also in contact with the owner of the bike. I'm just double checking here, because it would take me a 3,5 hours drive (one way) to even take a look at the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Thanks.
    I also noticed the "Cannondale" text on the inner side of the lefty fork. Can't find that on any other picture of this bike type. Do you know if this could have been added later or has there been an edition with a fork like this?

    Also, the front wheel hub is white. On all pictures of the white edtion it is black.

    I am wondering if this is a genuine BB Ultra White that has been modified. Or another model BB that was changed into a white edition.
    Has the frame the reflective white decals?

    If not then the frame was just repainted.
    Originally the white edition had the decals complete in white reflective like it is on the black models...

    The headbadge was origninally a silver alloy one, not a black decal, if I remember correct.

    Their where ultra versions with white Avid elixir brakes as stock parts. I´m not sure of the model year. But the front hub was black on european models, too...

    Rims should dt swiss if original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS.666 View Post
    Has the frame the reflective white decals?

    If not then the frame was just repainted.
    Originally the white edition had the decals complete in white reflective like it is on the black models...
    That's a good one, I'll check with the owner.

    Quote Originally Posted by SJS.666 View Post
    The headbadge was origninally a silver alloy one, not a black decal, if I remember correct.
    Yeah I thought so too.

    Quote Originally Posted by SJS.666 View Post
    Their where ultra versions with white Avid elixir brakes as stock parts. I´m not sure of the model year. But the front hub was black on european models, too...

    Rims should dt swiss if original.
    Thanks for the advice. I'll check before I take the long drive. If some of the parts were changed that's not a problem for me, I probably can't help myself and will start changing all of that anyway. But the frame, fork and rims must be original.

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    Yes I understand your point...
    Frame and fork would be the only thing important for myself. All the rest wouldn´t last long for sure...

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    @Battleweapon WOW! I really like your setup! Looks pretty rad! Could you post a picture showing a front view of the handlebars / brake levers? Thx

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    Anyone here run vittoria randonneur touring tyres?

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    I own a 2004 bad boy ultra with the fatty ultra fork; the bike came with 28" wheel-set and i changed them for 26" wheel-set. Now i am considering a 29" wheel-set. I am not sure about the clearance of the fork - would the 29'er fork from the bad boy 29 fit instead of the fatty ultra? Did somebody know the weight of the 29'er bad boy fork?

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    see below
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    Looking to get into this bike and was wondering what price point I should be looking at for these two bikes. Want to try and get a good deal as I am a poor student.

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    Bb5 2013 with steel mudguards and Vittoria tyres.


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    My 2016 BB2.

    Here's a photo of my 2016 BB2 while out for a ride near the coast.

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    my bad boy (ish) bike

    So i found this frame on CL and decided that i needed a bad boy type bike. (n+1) i then set out to get as many of the components off of CL as well. i did pretty well but the wheels i bought new on clearance and the carbon seat post and bars are from ebay. it is a blast to ride and i have a set of 26er wheels set up for off road as well Post Your Bad Boy!-img_5400.jpgPost Your Bad Boy!-img_5405.jpgPost Your Bad Boy!-img_5408.jpgPost Your Bad Boy!-img_5409.jpgPost Your Bad Boy!-img_5404.jpgPost Your Bad Boy!-img_5406.jpgPost Your Bad Boy!-img_5403.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefflinde View Post
    So i found this frame on CL and decided that i needed a bad boy type bike. (n+1) i then set out to get as many of the components off of CL as well. i did pretty well but the wheels i bought new on clearance and the carbon seat post and bars are from ebay. it is a blast to ride and i have a set of 26er wheels set up for off road as well Click image for larger version. 

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    You need a lockout knob. Ask Mendon Cyclesmith, if he has one here. Otherwise, nice CL find!
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    Very good eye and thanks. I have it I just forgot to put it back on.

    On the note, does anyone know if the new lock out knobs will fit the old forks? The new ones look so much better than the old ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefflinde View Post
    So i found this frame on CL and decided that i needed a bad boy type bike. (n+1) i then set out to get as many of the components off of CL as well. i did pretty well but the wheels i bought new on clearance and the carbon seat post and bars are from ebay. it is a blast to ride and i have a set of 26er wheels set up for off road as well Click image for larger version. 

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    Great looking N+1

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    I like my new 2016 BB1 with tow exceptions:

    1.) the noise coming from the front wheel. Hopefully, this can be cure soon:
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    2.) The bike grips. Might be good for a short commute. But not for touring as all the vibrations come through. Can anyone suggest an upgrade? Ideally, I would like grips with horns, allowing me to change position every so often. But I am afraid about loosing usable with of the handle bar. I have an old Koga MTB that has horns that stick into the handlebar.

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    I like my new 2016 BB1 with two exceptions:

    1.) noise coming from the front wheel. Seems like I am not the only one:
    cannondale bad boy 1 (2016) Lefty Front Hub Noise
    Hopefully, I can get this fixed soon.

    2.) the handlebar grips are terrible. Makes a 20 mile trip unpleasant. I am looking for an upgrade with some grips that dampen vibrations a bit, while matching the style of the bike. Also, I would not mind some bar ends, allowing me to change position. However, I am concerned about not impacting space for usable handle bar length. Are there still bar ends that screw in from the side of the handle bar?
    Any suggestions are welcome.

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    I like my 2016 BB1 with two exceptions: 1.) the noise coming from the front hub 2.) the handle bars are terrible. I am looking for some replacement ideas. Ideally with some bar ends that allow different positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calimeo View Post
    2.) the handlebar grips are terrible. Makes a 20 mile trip unpleasant. I am looking for an upgrade with some grips that dampen vibrations a bit, while matching the style of the bike. Also, I would not mind some bar ends, allowing me to change position.
    I have these on every flatbar I own:
    http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/gp1

    Ergon GP1 Grips

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    They also come with barends:
    http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/gp4

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudSnow View Post
    I have these on every flatbar I own:
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    Ergon GP1 Grips

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    Those look really nice. I checked them out at the store. Seem a bit on the a harderside. How "soft" are the grips? How much vibration do they absorb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calimeo View Post
    Those look really nice. I checked them out at the store. Seem a bit on the a harderside. How "soft" are the grips? How much vibration do they absorb?
    They are not soft as you may noticed. First thing I replaced when I got my 2012 bb1 was also the grips. They were terrible and uncomfortable. So I tried the Bontrager inForm Satellite Grips from the trek bike shop, and they were great until I found that the Ergon GP1 Neo grips that matches the stealth black color and make the bike look better.

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    So, I bought the GP1 Neo grips and installed right away thinking that they would provide the same comfortable cushy feeling on my palms.. but wrong, they were not even close to the bontrager grips in terms of vibration absorption. I ended up switching back to the bontrager ones even though they look less attractive.

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    I have never really noticed much vibration. I think tires and forks have more to do with that.
    The most important thing about these is that they double or triple the amount of surface that is supporting your weight, so the pressure on your hands is less than half.
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    Did anyone cut a bit of the width off of their stock 2014/2015 handlebars?

    They seem a bit wide for me and I was thinking of trimming 1.5" total (0.75"/side) to make the experience more similar to my KHS stock bars. Anything I should ponder before doing so (other than "I can't add it back!")?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivyinvestor View Post
    Did anyone cut a bit of the width off of their stock 2014/2015 handlebars?

    They seem a bit wide for me and I was thinking of trimming 1.5" total (0.75"/side) to make the experience more similar to my KHS stock bars. Anything I should ponder before doing so (other than "I can't add it back!")?
    If you like the twitchy steering, then do it. Short bars are terrible for longer commutes, as the limited ways to get comfortable becomes annoying.

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    I also feel wider bars are more comfortable. I can always put my hands inside of brake perches or on them if I want but I like how wide bars handle so much better. Also my arms don't have to come in and can be shoulder width or wider

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    Makes sense. The bars are 2.5" longer than my KHS so I picked 1.5" as a reasonable reduction, but one that would keep the bike different from my ex. I have a very narrow frame so I feel a bit like I'm paddling a boat when steering - not something I felt when I test road it for an hour, unfortunately.

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    It is definately a personal choice so if you feel better narrower than make the change. One thing you could do is just move your grips and controls in by .75" on each side and see if that is more comfortable. This won't work if your grips have built in end caps but worth a try. You would get the same feeling with out cutting the bars first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefflinde View Post
    One thing you could do is just move your grips and controls in by .75" on each side and see if that is more comfortable. This won't work if your grips have built in end caps but worth a try. You would get the same feeling with out cutting the bars first.
    Yeah - capped grips, unfortunately. I suppose I could pull them, move inward the brake actuators, wrap some foam, and do some tests in a controlled area. Not a perfect test, but maybe useful?

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    I am actually slightly wider than the original bars now with a shorter stem. The Tune Carbon bar I am using really is nice with no more need for bar ends as it is a touch wider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudSnow View Post
    I have never really noticed much vibration. I think tires and forks have more to do with that.
    The most important thing about these is that they double or triple the amount of surface that is supporting your weight, so the pressure on your hands is less than half.
    Tonight I saw the grips on a Specialized Sirrus:
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    Looks very similar to the Ergon. Also has end bars. Granted the Ergon bar ends look more comfortable. However, the Specialized grsip appear to be softer. At least it looks like the hand rest part has more flex. I am guessing the Ergon have no flex?

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    Of course the Ergon grips have some flex, they are rubbery. If you get grips too soft then all your weight will be back over the metal bar.
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    Don't mistake marketing hype against a correct fit. If your hands are getting problems then most likely your bike is not setup correctly. I had the Ergon grips and although they melted themselves to death they where decent. However once I shortened my stem, got my seat set correct and adjusted the risers on the stem I didn't need anything but round lock ons. Now I use a carbon bar as I mentioned and have no problems that I couldn't completely fix with even ergonomic grips.

    Setup/Fit is most important, period.

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    I bought the first pair because of marketing. I bought six more because they work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudSnow View Post
    I bought the first pair because of marketing. I bought six more because they work.
    And I stopped when I got something 1/10th lighter and more comfy from foam

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    Something like this?
    WCS Ergo Locking True Grip
    Are there matching end bars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calimeo View Post
    Something like this?
    WCS Ergo Locking True Grip
    Are there matching end bars?
    Actually running these:
    Bike24 - Cannondale Superlight Foam Grips

    With This cut to its minimal length I think 650mm...

    Bike24 - Tune Turnstange Flatbar Carbon

    Running the Tune Stem also at about 65mm.

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    Hi guys. I just got a Bad Boy 3 (I will post photos soon) and I was wondering what type of paint do Bad Boys have? Is it powder coated, anodized or something else?

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