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    ... and if we just ... New Cannondale 05 here;

    This is the new Cannondale bike, sorry for copying this link, but it makes very interesting reading.

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=1406

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    Hummm.

    Damn, now I want one! If it really is 24 pounds when the production version is released, my Cake might be for sale...

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    weight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Damn, now I want one! If it really is 24 pounds when the production version is released, my Cake might be for sale...
    I know how you feel, though I will keep my gemini 04 2000. Still want one though!!!

    The weight will be accurate, its a UK website and they are truthfull in their tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catnash
    I know how you feel, though I will keep my gemini 04 2000. Still want one though!!!

    The weight will be accurate, its a UK website and they are truthfull in their tests.
    It's not that I don't trust the testers, it's more that the bikes they tried might be non-production versions so the weights might vary a bit when the bikes hit the shops showrooms...

    But I'll keep my current bike for a while, my Cake is very nice but there were a few "new model bugs" so next time, I'm buying a bike that's been around for at least a few months and no more Trek-Fisher-Etc... I haven't been impressed with Trek's craftmanship and build quality, compared with Cannondale's, they should be ashamed...

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    I did like how the rear derailleur cable went through the rear triangle, i hope that stays for production. I'm still wanting to see this endurance bike though, but it's going to have to be great for me not to buy a prophet.

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    That bike looks just awesome. I hope it doesn't come out extremly expensive... so I can get me one.
    Who is this doin' this synthetic type of alpha-beta psychadelic funkin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by xctico
    That bike looks just awesome. I hope it doesn't come out extremly expensive... so I can get me one.
    There will be a few models, but the "I-want-it-BAD" model with the Carbon Lefty Max with SPV, CrossMax wheels and other nice parts wont be cheap I expect.

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    You're probably right. The cheapest one will probably be aroud $2k and the top of the line $5k
    Who is this doin' this synthetic type of alpha-beta psychadelic funkin'

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    Those are european spec bikes, but it is 100% accurate to how they will be in production. There is going to be a bunch of models so I am sure you'll find one in your price range.

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    Check out Hcor.net

    There's a story on http://www.Hcor.net about Aaron Chase and Don Hampton going to Europe for a Cannondale media event announcing the release of those bikes. Chase mentioned the weight as 27.5 lbs.

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    24lbs No way

    I just read an article about the prophet and the target weight when the bike is released is 27lbs.

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    24lbs No Way

    i agree with ronny it should probly be around 27lbs,
    the scalpel teem is 23
    3000 is 24
    2000 is 25
    if the new prophit is 24lbs then the new marathon should be lighter again ,so is the new scalpels going to 20lbs?
    just curious :

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    If you wanna be a weight wennie about it, you can shave a pound or two off the scalpel team, by loosing the lefty and getting a headshok (ouch)...
    but seriously, a sub20 scalpel would be too sweet... not that I can affort it, or that I would buy it even if I had the money... (at least not till I start standing on some podiums... very frecuently)
    Who is this doin' this synthetic type of alpha-beta psychadelic funkin'

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    Any Info On The 2005 Marathon?????

    Hi There!!!!
    Would Anyone Have Any Info On The 2005 Marathon Bike??

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    Quote Originally Posted by xctico
    You're probably right. The cheapest one will probably be aroud $2k and the top of the line $5k
    $5k USD? Damn, that makes it in the $6500 CAD range!

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    That's what any of their high end 2004 bikes cost... so I'm just guessing the price will runaround those numbers, maybe even more than 5k USD
    Who is this doin' this synthetic type of alpha-beta psychadelic funkin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    There will be a few models, but the "I-want-it-BAD" model with the Carbon Lefty Max with SPV, CrossMax wheels and other nice parts wont be cheap I expect.
    When is Crackanfale gonna come up with an original bike design that doesn't suck? That bike looks like a Ventana Pantera.

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    When is Crackanfale gonna come up with an original bike design that doesn't suck? That bike looks like a Ventana Pantera.
    Dude, that is one of the lamest things I have ever heard. If you anything about bikes you would know that cdale has been using that frame style for over 10 years now. Ever hear of a killer V? If anything I would say Ventana took some influence from Cannondale......Besides have you even ridden one of these new bikes, because if not how do you have any clue if it sucks or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad ronald
    Dude, that is one of the lamest things I have ever heard. If you anything about bikes you would know that cdale has been using that frame style for over 10 years now. Ever hear of a killer V? If anything I would say Ventana took some influence from Cannondale......Besides have you even ridden one of these new bikes, because if not how do you have any clue if it sucks or not?
    Sorry Dude, after watching my buddy break two Jeckyl 1000's and all the trouble he had with that piece oh sh*t fatty headshok I'm all set with riding junk!

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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by pufdup
    Sorry Dude, after watching my buddy break two Jeckyl 1000's and all the trouble he had with that piece oh sh*t fatty headshok I'm all set with riding junk!

    Huh? Not sure what you are attempting to say.

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    Also for 2005?

    I found this "drawing" of what looks like a possible Cannondale marathon or endurance racing bike on a German website where folks were also talking about the Prophet. From what I could understand, the guy that first posted it was sort of ambivalent as to whether or not it was a fake mock up or not, but it certainly looked to be of the same style as the mock up of the Prophet, which we have seen in the flesh, which was also posted there. Any thoughts? Here's the link, maybe one of you speaks German.


    http://www.mtb-news.de/forum/showthread.php?t=123141
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    That's a pretty mockup, but I wwas trying to trace the path of travel on that shock/swingarm combo and my calculations just say "wrongo".

    Some people have too much time on their hands and a copy of Photoshop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by direktor
    That's a pretty mockup, but I wwas trying to trace the path of travel on that shock/swingarm combo and my calculations just say "wrongo".

    Some people have too much time on their hands and a copy of Photoshop...

    I thought as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantB
    I thought as much.
    Talk to your dealers about more '05 bikes and specs that were released today.

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    I should clarify...

    The overall direction of the above design seems plausible...a natural extension of the Scalpel obviously.

    But given the big error in the rear suspension rendering, I just thought it should be taken with a grain of salt.

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    I think the drawing might be for real. It was on the German Forum some time ago an Cannodale asked the webmaster to remove the post. There was also a drawing of the Prophet in the same post and the actual prophet looks the same as the drawing on the post.
    let us wait and see when the bike is released

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    Quote Originally Posted by xctico
    If you wanna be a weight wennie about it, you can shave a pound or two off the scalpel team, by loosing the lefty and getting a headshok (ouch)...
    but seriously, a sub20 scalpel would be too sweet... not that I can affort it, or that I would buy it even if I had the money... (at least not till I start standing on some podiums... very frecuently)
    Carbon Lefty ELO weighs in at around 3lbs. Replacing it with the currently lightest Fatty will save about 2oz of weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantB
    I found this "drawing" of what looks like a possible Cannondale marathon or endurance racing bike on a German website where folks were also talking about the Prophet. From what I could understand, the guy that first posted it was sort of ambivalent as to whether or not it was a fake mock up or not, but it certainly looked to be of the same style as the mock up of the Prophet, which we have seen in the flesh, which was also posted there. Any thoughts? Here's the link, maybe one of you speaks German.


    http://www.mtb-news.de/forum/showthread.php?t=123141

    That was actually an early design of the Prophet. No Cdale is gonna be produced that looks like that.. still trying to find a pic of the Darwin.
    ...he said "young man pay heed, you listen well to what i say, now there comes a time for a man to walk away"

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    scalpel's are still nice, too

    Quote Originally Posted by lastminutebastrd
    That was actually an early design of the Prophet. No Cdale is gonna be produced that looks like that.. still trying to find a pic of the Darwin.
    In the meantime, here a nice detail of christoph sauser's new scalpel - with carbon inserts like the six13 ...



    said to be 9.5 kg before 'optimising' with alloy discs ...

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    Carbon Scalpel

    Quote Originally Posted by offpiste
    In the meantime, here a nice detail of christoph sauser's new scalpel - with carbon inserts like the six13 ...

    said to be 9.5 kg before 'optimising' with alloy discs ...
    Hummmm... Interesting. I'm not in the market for a race bike but I'm looking forward to get more details. Not that it's a very surprising bike tough, it was the next logical step.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm more carbon scalpel

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Hummmm... Interesting. I'm not in the market for a race bike but I'm looking forward to get more details. Not that it's a very surprising bike tough, it was the next logical step.
    well, then you will like this picture - showing the full bike with winner c. sauser, 2nd roel paulissen and 3rd kashi leuchs in a race last weekend (www.o-tour.ch)




    and a detail from susi's scalpel (from www.move.ch): ELO-trigger integrated into right barend ...




    hope all these lightweight parts don't melt away in the heat of the olympics

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    WOW, 9.5 kg?
    A good reason to have bar-ends.

    Cannondale is probably the only company that, whenever they come up with a new bike, I wanna sell mine and get one... I might be a Cannondalaolic.

    Did you see Kashi's leg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pufdup
    When is Crackanfale gonna come up with an original bike design that doesn't suck? That bike looks like a Ventana Pantera.
    Is it my imagination or is it only the people who have never owned a Cdale that bash them?

    How can all of the top pros in different the disciplines of our sport (XC,DH,STREET,ROAD) win on these pieces of junk?

    Ok I know PuffDuppy, so don't get scared guys, this should remain civil...I'll yell at him on behalf of all other Cdale lovers out there.

    First and foremost Puff Duppy, didn't your new ROCKY MOUNTAIN Slayer just break!!! I did a thorough check over on the "Creaky Mountain" room, and didn't see any mention or proclamation that RM's suck from you, despite a couple of riders all having the same broken chain stays. Hummmm what smells?...it's the Hypocrite!

    Are Cannondale bikes flawless? No, but that's the price you pay for owning a bike from the foremost leader in new technology and innovative bike design. Yes, I have broken two chain stays on an older "single" swing arm Jekyll (way off camber landing), but because Cannondale is such an awesome AMERICAN bike company, they fixed the problem super quick, no hassles, no questions they just fixed it. And yes, I have seen one older hard tail frame break in two, and Cdale sent him a new Scalpel as replacement. One time they even sent me a new free "moto" fork, cause I was a dumbass and didn't lock my bike in the rack which resulted in a broken wheel tab. You show me another bike company that would do that! ohh and Pufdup Canada is not part of the USA hence your bike is well... Canadian, it's not the same, you've got a little red leaf while I'm sporting the good old RED WHITE and BLUE!

    I have owned SIX different Cannondale bikes (minus the one wimpy swing arm design), all of these bikes have held up to much abuse, no squeaks or pivot issues, no broken frames (for me), leftys, headshocks they all worked great, and that's why I continue to buy handmade Cannondales without hesitation.

    Stop flinging ****!

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    Personally I can't see myself getting another Cannondale before they go full carbon in road and XC bikes. The aluminum/carbon mix tubing is hogwash. Also, I'd like to see the top of the line products available as separate framesets.

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    Does full carbon matter that much? Personally I think the hand made approach is way cooler than the pop em outta the chinese mold approach that other companies take. As for framesets, they're all available. All you need to do is ask your shop. You can get a scalpel, optimo hardtail, gemini DH, chase, six13, whatever all as framesets.

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead!

    I've seen the specs for 05 models today. In the "All Mountain" series there will be only one model with Jekyll frame - a low end. Than there will be one 4x team replica Prophet with bolt through rear hub. That one pictured above is Prophet 4000 - high end model, it will have SRAM X.0 rear mech, XT front mech, SRAM X.9 trigger shifters, XTR cassette, new FSA carbon crank, FSA carbon seatpost and oversized risers, ODI Ruffian grips, Carbon Lefty MAX+ w/ Ti coil, CrossMax SL wheels, Magura Martas SL dics brakes and Fizik Gobi saddle. Pretty sweet if you ask me. The other model has also Carbon Lefty and the rest is classic MAX+ (read aluminium shell).

    Oh, and Lefty on Scalpel has now 110mm travel. Scalpel Team replica will sell for about 7k Euros. I dunno the prices for Prophets just yet.

    It seems to me that my '03 Jekyll will get out of my house and I will get second mortgage to get the Prophet 4000.

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    Idea!

    Quote Originally Posted by pecka
    Oh, and Lefty on Scalpel has now 110mm travel. Scalpel Team replica will sell for about 7k Euros. I dunno the prices for Prophets just yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad ronald
    Does full carbon matter that much? Personally I think the hand made approach is way cooler than the pop em outta the chinese mold approach that other companies take.
    -Ron
    Who says you have to buy a Chinese carbon bike? Aside from that, the carbon mix bikes are also popped out of a mold, a way cheaper mold as a matter of fact. If you're looking for frames made by exclusive skilled craftsmen Cannondale isn't the place to look. It's plain and simple mass production work. In my opinion they make pretty good stuff however.

    As for framesets, they're all available. All you need to do is ask your shop. You can get a scalpel, optimo hardtail, gemini DH, chase, six13, whatever all as framesets.
    You can't in Europe. Their pricing here is a bad joke as well.

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    ....it seems I spoke too quickly...it looks like '05 stuff will be available as framesets in Europe as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecka
    That one pictured above is Prophet 4000 - high end model, it will have SRAM X.0 rear mech, XT front mech, SRAM X.9 trigger shifters, XTR cassette, new FSA carbon crank, FSA carbon seatpost and oversized risers, ODI Ruffian grips, Carbon Lefty MAX+ w/ Ti coil, CrossMax SL wheels, Magura Martas SL dics brakes and Fizik Gobi saddle. Pretty sweet if you ask me.

    It seems to me that my '03 Jekyll will get out of my house and I will get second mortgage to get the Prophet 4000.
    Yep, I'm thinking of selling 2 of my bikes to get that Prophet 4000... Or maybe I will get a 2000, I'm waiting for the specs of the whole line-up and the prices up here in Canada...

    Is this the 2000?


    Are they going SRAM all the way for high-end bikes next year?

    Problem is, I talked with my LBS about the bike and they don't have Cannondale bikes available for test rides... Odd. They say Cannondale don't provide them with demo bikes...
    Last edited by Dan Gerous; 08-03-2004 at 11:50 AM.

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    Peca!!!!!

    I,m from the UK. Have just checked your 2005 prices. What bikes have u got in?

    Do you have pics of 2005 F4000sl ???

    Thanks

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    Cannondale changed the setup of the scalpel 3000, it is much lower in price (6199 euro for the 2004 model and now 5599 for the 2005 model). The put now a lower priced tubes on it from Mavic and not the Crossmax. It is a little bit said, because those tubes rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleinAttitude
    Peca!!!!!

    I,m from the UK. Have just checked your 2005 prices. What bikes have u got in?

    Do you have pics of 2005 F4000sl ???

    Thanks
    Hi, I'm not from UK, I'm from CZ. Unfortunately I don't have pictures of the new models, I've just seen specs. I'll try to get them and post them into this forum. I would love to get new bike but I can't justify to get rid of the Jekyll and get the Prophet...sigh. I will have to wait for the '06 models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecka
    Hi, I'm not from UK, I'm from CZ. Unfortunately I don't have pictures of the new models, I've just seen specs. I'll try to get them and post them into this forum. I would love to get new bike but I can't justify to get rid of the Jekyll and get the Prophet...sigh. I will have to wait for the '06 models.
    I would really like to see the specs, altough you'll have the European specs which might be slightly different than here in Canada...

    That big picture sure is annoying!

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    F4000SL & F2000SL Spec.(Europe)

    Is this what you're looking for ???
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    F4000SL & F2000SL Spec.(Europe)

    Is this what you're looking for ???

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    please post also the specs of the scalpel 2000 / 3000 and team replica...!!!

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    Team >>>

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    Interesting but what is what?

    FSA something w/DATA security system? Is that an anti-theft system for Tinker?

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    Scalpel 3000 & 2000

    Here they are !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by *JB*
    Is this what you're looking for ???
    Me? I'm more interested in the Prophet line-up...

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    scalpel 3000 & 2000

    the prophet ?? oke !
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    scalpel spec.3000 & 2000

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    Too bad, I'll wait, I wont be buying a bike this week anyway.

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    prophet team and 4000

    upload S**cks
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    prophet 2000 & 1000

    the next two !!
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    prophet 800 & 600

    the last two... it seems to work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Interesting but what is what?

    FSA something w/DATA security system? Is that an anti-theft system for Tinker?
    That is some new FSA lightweight seatpost.

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    There's a more important resemblance, though...

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    When is Crackanfale gonna come up with an original bike design that doesn't suck? That bike looks like a Ventana Pantera.
    ...while the front end may resemble a Pantera (also old Cannondale Killer V's), the more important thing to note is that the rear suspension design is a very close match to the Santa Cruz Heckler, right down to the obvious falling rate. Not necessarily a problem, but this design will need a progressive shock of some sort (either an air shock, or a progressitivity-adjustable coil like the 5th element or the Swinger). Stable platform damping will help, too. Won't work well with a standard coil (too linear), or likely a large-volume air shock either (think AVA).

    Not necessarily a bad compromise, but a suspension designed around a specific type of damper.

    Cool bike though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrod74
    ...while the front end may resemble a Pantera (also old Cannondale Killer V's), the more important thing to note is that the rear suspension design is a very close match to the Santa Cruz Heckler, right down to the obvious falling rate. Not necessarily a problem, but this design will need a progressive shock of some sort (either an air shock, or a progressitivity-adjustable coil like the 5th element or the Swinger). Stable platform damping will help, too. Won't work well with a standard coil (too linear), or likely a large-volume air shock either (think AVA).

    Not necessarily a bad compromise, but a suspension designed around a specific type of damper.

    Cool bike though.

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    I really like the slack head angle on the prophet (69-67) and the higher bottom bracket. It looks like a really nice bike, but I just got my 04 Jekyll 1000. I am very happy with that bike, but the temptation of getting something new is very powerful.

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    Thanks a lot... Not sure how much these will be going for in Canada but the Prophet 4000 and 2000 sure are tempting bikes.

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    Here you can find the European specs:

    Cannondale 2005 specs Europe

    Grtz,

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    Some lovely specs. F4000sl

    Carbon Elo
    Marta Sl,s nice.
    XTR
    Hollogram
    SRAM

    !!!!!!!!

    I want to see the pics arrrgghh lol

    Awesome sounding bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad ronald
    That is some new FSA lightweight seatpost.

    -Ron
    That's what I figured, but DATA security system, what is that?

    Yep, I hope I can afford the Prophet 4000... Crossmax SL, SRAM X0 and triggers, that sweet fork...

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    Not sure if that Scalpel is going to be released for the 2006 model year.
    ispoke to the agents for Cannondale and the only changes for this year are the the damping cartridges on the Lefty (it's a no Fox ProPedal) and a new Fox Flaot Propedal rear end.
    It's possible the team replica will have that frame though becauseit will also have Sram X.0 mechs and shifters, Magura marta brakes.
    everything else has Shimano kit.

    If that carbon bike does make it to production, My Scalpel will be up for slae soon

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    They tested the Six13 this month in the German "Tour Magazin". Nothing changed, stiffness spec same as CAAD7, ride quality same, and here comes the killer - it was heavier than the CAAD7. Carbon mix is a waste of time IMO.

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    I agree, the carbon craze is not the best solution to making a better bike, but rather just a way of making the bike different from what has gone before.

    I'm not a fan of Carbon MTB's anyway so I think I'll be giving the 05 Scalpel a miss.
    My o4 model will make me feel more at ease so i'll keep it.

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    '05 scalpels are not carbon. Those were only a special treat for Cannondale's Olympic athletes. There are only something like 5 total in the world right now.

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    That is crazy I have never seen a vein that big!! I just bought an '04 scalpel should have waited a few months and got the 05

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    Bah, the 05 are no better than your 04, the only change I know of is the bolts that hold the shock bridge to the seat-tube, they now save 12 grams or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divve
    Personally I can't see myself getting another Cannondale before they go full carbon in road and XC bikes. The aluminum/carbon mix tubing is hogwash. Also, I'd like to see the top of the line products available as separate framesets.

    have you read up on the six13 at all? mechanically interlocked aluminum lugs with carbon tubes is VERY strong and light...

    carbon XC bikes are something I would gladly see less of. Carbon is fine until you bash it on a rock or some other load is applied that it wasn't designed for. the risk of that in a road bike is minimal, but for mountain biking, rocks and unanticipated loading is pretty much par for the course.

    The prophet looks sweet.. I might rethink buying a 5-spot....

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    Canadian Price List:

    Prophet 4X $6699
    Prophet 4000: $6699
    Prophet 2000: $4099
    Prophet 1000: $3299

    Scalpel TEAM: $6399
    Scalpel 3000: $5499
    Scalpel 2000: $3599
    Scalpel 1000: $2899

    Gemini DH: $7799
    Gemini 3000: $4999
    Gemini 2000: $3499

    Chase1: $2499
    Chase2: $1499
    Chase3: $1199

    All in Canadian Dollars

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    Yikes, those are some seriously steep prices. My LBS has some prices.
    Prophet 600- $2199, 800- $2599 canadian dollars

    Those are the only two I'm looking at. $3000 is way out of my league and probably most people's as well. Heck I might just keep my jekyll

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay
    Canadian Price List:

    Prophet 4X $6699
    Prophet 4000: $6699
    Prophet 2000: $4099
    Prophet 1000: $3299

    Scalpel TEAM: $6399
    Scalpel 3000: $5499
    Scalpel 2000: $3599
    Scalpel 1000: $2899

    Gemini DH: $7799
    Gemini 3000: $4999
    Gemini 2000: $3499

    Chase1: $2499
    Chase2: $1499
    Chase3: $1199

    All in Canadian Dollars
    Well, comparing with a price list of a shop around here, the Prophets are actually $100 cheaper than the equivalent 04 Jekylls. OK, if you compare the Prophet 4000 with the top of the line Jekyll 3000, the new bike is a seriously expensive bike!

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    For me it will probably be a Prophet1000 or 2000. The 4000 is awsome but really expensive compare to the Jekyll 3000 at 5500$ (if i remmeber correctly). The Jekyll 1000 and 2000 were about the same price as the new prophet.

    The 1000 seems to be the best value. The only thing missing on it is the carbon fork... Cause the wheels are nice, i like the SRAM package and FSA crankset, it'S not a big price difference then for the XT group... but 800$ cheaper, that 800$ could be use to buy a set of Crossmax SL while selling the other wheels for 300$ and paying off the balance!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by endurowanker
    have you read up on the six13 at all? mechanically interlocked aluminum lugs with carbon tubes is VERY strong and light...



    The prophet looks sweet.. I might rethink buying a 5-spot....
    Yeah I read up on a test that actually contains objective verifiable data instead of touchy feely marketing talk. The Six13 is heavier than the CAAD7 in equivalent sizes. So much for the very light part and any current material in use for constructing bike frames can be made strong.

    For the remainder, ride and stiffness are basically identical to the CAAD7. That was my point....there's no point in this design aside from that it looks different....it's basically the equivalent of releasing a couple of new paint jobs and claim you got a new bike model.

    carbon XC bikes are something I would gladly see less of. Carbon is fine until you bash it on a rock or some other load is applied that it wasn't designed for. the risk of that in a road bike is minimal, but for mountain biking, rocks and unanticipated loading is pretty much par for the course.
    The carbon rear of my Scalpel is doing just fine. It all depends on how you design the components.
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