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    Mixed review of the new Scalpel

    A quick spin review of the new Scalpel from Bike Magic... Not sure how they review usually but they didn't seem to enjoy the new Scalpel that much. Too racy for them? Too flexy? Isn't it supposed to be stiffer than the first Scalpel? A magazine review shouldn't be taken too seriously but since it's the first ride report on the bike...

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    eh...

    I rode a pre-production model last week and I wasn't moved really one way or another. I can't see 4 inches of rear travel either.It felt like a rush but not as plush. But I think that the Rush races really well and does all things the old Scalpel did well.

    It is STUPID light though. The one I rode was 21.3 lbs no pedals.
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    thats a disappointment to scalpel fans, the first review is not all positive .
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    I rode the new scalpel for about 2 hours on Monday and then 30 Mintues on Tuesday. Getting to the demo first thing on Monday was a good call cause there were no lines and the trails were not clogged.

    I took the shuttle to the top of the mountain and rode the easier of the two downhill trails. I mean it is a xc race bike afterall. All i can say is the bike worked perfect. The 69.5 head angle was perfect for the rocky and technical trail. It was so light and so fast. It would go right up the side of the rough climbs. You could climb it standing or sitting(unike the rush which is best climbed in the saddle). It is ligther and stiffer than the old design. More plush though. I thought it railed. On tuesday I hti up the "XC" loop. It worked just as good on the grommed ups and downs and it ralied the switch back decsents.

    Now if you don't plan on racing and want a sweet bike, the carbon rush is the way to go. 2nd would be the Titus Carbon Racer X. I will gladly race a scalpel but i would also gladly race a rush. I am a little torn on what to get. I am a 1 bike person so my Taurine is going bye bye.
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    Well, like a Rush but not as plush is to be expected, the rear suspension should be more progressive, less aimed at confort compared to the Rush. It's the lack of lateral stiffness that has me a bit nervous...

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Dog
    I rode the new scalpel for about 2 hours on Monday and then 30 Mintues on Tuesday. Getting to the demo first thing on Monday was a good call cause there were no lines and the trails were not clogged.

    I took the shuttle to the top of the mountain and rode the easier of the two downhill trails. I mean it is a xc race bike afterall. All i can say is the bike worked perfect. The 69.5 head angle was perfect for the rocky and technical trail. It was so light and so fast. It would go right up the side of the rough climbs. You could climb it standing or sitting(unike the rush which is best climbed in the saddle). It is ligther and stiffer than the old design. More plush though. I thought it railed. On tuesday I hti up the "XC" loop. It worked just as good on the grommed ups and downs and it ralied the switch back decsents.

    Now if you don't plan on racing and want a sweet bike, the carbon rush is the way to go. 2nd would be the Titus Carbon Racer X. I will gladly race a scalpel but i would also gladly race a rush. I am a little torn on what to get. I am a 1 bike person so my Taurine is going bye bye.
    I want a racy bike, a missile, my Prophet will handle the more relaxed or more technical rides...

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Dog
    I rode the new scalpel for about 2 hours on Monday and then 30 Mintues on Tuesday. Getting to the demo first thing on Monday was a good call cause there were no lines and the trails were not clogged.

    I took the shuttle to the top of the mountain and rode the easier of the two downhill trails. I mean it is a xc race bike afterall. All i can say is the bike worked perfect. The 69.5 head angle was perfect for the rocky and technical trail. It was so light and so fast. It would go right up the side of the rough climbs. You could climb it standing or sitting(unike the rush which is best climbed in the saddle). It is ligther and stiffer than the old design. More plush though. I thought it railed. On tuesday I hti up the "XC" loop. It worked just as good on the grommed ups and downs and it ralied the switch back decsents.

    Now if you don't plan on racing and want a sweet bike, the carbon rush is the way to go. 2nd would be the Titus Carbon Racer X. I will gladly race a scalpel but i would also gladly race a rush. I am a little torn on what to get. I am a 1 bike person so my Taurine is going bye bye.
    Wonder what you would think about any other bike with a HA of 68-66 on a downhill.

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    I would think they were slow for that trail. The downhill wasn't really a downhill per say. It was up and down, no drops or jumps, but steep rocks and tight turns. It was more a rough XC/ normal AM type trail.

    Overall I think everyone was really impressed with the new scalpel but the old one was so good. So basicaly they have a little better preformance but a lot more travel.
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    I just think the market in this area is so crowded that at this point, many shortcomings will become magnified.

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    It doesn't seem too bad to me. They complain that it is a race bike and that it is not a tech riders bike. Well as far as I can tell that was the intention. To win world cups. It's like buying a Ferrari and then saying it sucks in stop and go traffic. Well of course it does...That thing only wants to go faaaaasssssst...

    One other point...Is it really possible to make a 22 lb bike super stiff? At some point people need to give up on nit-picking and just ride the damn thing. Decide for yourself, don't let some guy who is biased tell you whats up. Let your own bias decide for yourself

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    I agree with you Ron, it's just hard from these reviews to know if it's flexy compared to other true race XC bikes or flexy compared to all-mountain or stout trail bikes... Magazine reviews always have to be taken with a grain of salt, I trust A-Dog much more than magazine writers..

    There's only one way to really know...
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    Size?

    Unless something is terribly different then my current Scalpel, it looks like a ton of seatpost is showing relative to the bar height. High seatpost plus a low flat bar makes for a sketchy ride on ANY bike. First thing that comes off my new Scalpel is the flat bar for an Easton carbon low rise. I don't have near that amount of seatpost showing on my Med. and I am 5'10".
    Also what's up with the missing chain ring bolt, how stiff could the drivetrain be with that, seemed to be the only thing he was impressed with...........

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    Dan, I would wait until one of the Euro mags actually objectively measures the stiffness (usually on some kind of frame jig that applies a certain load) and actually measures deflection to see how the bike rates. A lot could go into a feeling of "flex" such as loose rear wheel bearings or bushing wear.
    I do have to admit that it does concen me somewhat, I prefer my bikes to be stiff and accurate. It does push me in the direction I am leaning right now of getting a Taurine. I see Tinker has been using his a lot for Marathon and 24 hour racing.........

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    The most unattractive part of the new Scalpel is the price. How much is that bike $5-6-7,000 dollars? I have not ridden one so I cannot comment on the ride...but it did win the World Championship.

    I ride Cannondale hardtails and have borrowed Scalpels before. I really like the way they setup. Very fast bike. Very fast. I can take a little different lines than I can with my hardtails and shave a little time here and there per lap on a race course.

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    lateral flexy

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    I agree with you Ron, it's just hard from these reviews to know if it's flexy compared to other true race XC bikes or flexy compared to all-mountain or stout trail bikes... Magazine reviews always have to be taken with a grain of salt, I trust A-Dog much more than magazine writers..

    There's only one way to really know...

    Hi boys,
    well, as i remarked a few months ago on Rush section, the only defect i found on Rush (ALU) is the (little??) lateral swingarm flex, which is well noticeable if you put a finger between the seat tube and upper side of swingarm, close to the shock joints. Some other owners of Rush carbon told that maybe it was a little reduced on the carbon version (the famous, but, in my opinion, only a little useful for the problem), but not sure. Well: at this time, maybe i'll shift to new scalpel only if this problem is definitely (at least almost...) fixed. What do you and reviewers mean with lateral flexy?? The same of me?
    Not that it's a big problem and i noticed it only LOOKING at: but if it's there, for sure it sucks. So, what new scalpel should have to appeal me (and not only me, i suppose...) is not only the 1-1.5 kgs shave, but also the rear swingam stiffnes, that should be AT LEAST higher than carbon and alu rush.
    Elsewhere, as i race only a few, i'd go for upgrading to carbon rush.

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    First off, I'm a huge fan of cdale, particularly the Scalpel. I had the opportunity to ride the new scalpel for a very short time today. My ride was in a parking lot. My goal was to get to the bottom of the lateral stiffness issue. In my opinion, it is no better than the old scalpel. But at the same time it is NO WORSE and it has way more travel. The thing I noticed most is that the suspension felt as if it had the smoothest pivots ever (though of course it has none). I'm still going to need to trail ride this thing before I buy it, but I am very optimistic about my future with one. I think they managed to make a bike with longer travel, lighter and it probably tracks just as well as the old Scalpel. One thing everyone must not forget, the old Scalpel is a great machine. So just to lighten it up a bit, move the rear shock to a better place, and almost double it's effective travel without losing anything it had before should be enough.

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    what happend to the carbon fiber rear fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiina
    Hi boys,
    well, as i remarked a few months ago on Rush section, the only defect i found on Rush (ALU) is the (little??) lateral swingarm flex, which is well noticeable if you put a finger between the seat tube and upper side of swingarm, close to the shock joints. Some other owners of Rush carbon told that maybe it was a little reduced on the carbon version (the famous, but, in my opinion, only a little useful for the problem), but not sure. Well: at this time, maybe i'll shift to new scalpel only if this problem is definitely (at least almost...) fixed. What do you and reviewers mean with lateral flexy?? The same of me?
    Not that it's a big problem and i noticed it only LOOKING at: but if it's there, for sure it sucks. So, what new scalpel should have to appeal me (and not only me, i suppose...) is not only the 1-1.5 kgs shave, but also the rear swingam stiffnes, that should be AT LEAST higher than carbon and alu rush.
    Elsewhere, as i race only a few, i'd go for upgrading to carbon rush.
    For 08 the Rush now has a small bridge bolted on to the swingarm behind the seat tube. Comparing an 08 SL alloy with an 07 alloy side by side on the shop floor the old fashioned rear end hand flex test shows it has helped to stiffen up the rear end quite a bit. Here is a review from interbike of the Rush, Scalpel and Taurine.

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    Interesting that on this review the reviewer noted that the Scalpel had good stiffness on the front end. I would find it hard to believe that the front triangle would have much flex given the stiffness ratings of the System Six that uses a very similar front triangle. Any flex would have to come from the rear triangle. The demo truck is supposed to be at Tour of the White Mountains this weekend so hopefully I can get to try a few of the bikes in person as unfortunately I had to miss Interbike this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Wombat
    For 08 the Rush now has a small bridge bolted on to the swingarm behind the seat tube. Comparing an 08 SL alloy with an 07 alloy side by side on the shop floor the old fashioned rear end hand flex test shows it has helped to stiffen up the rear end quite a bit. Here is a review from interbike of the Rush, Scalpel and Taurine.

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    Interesting that on this review the reviewer noted that the Scalpel had good stiffness on the front end. I would find it hard to believe that the front triangle would have much flex given the stiffness ratings of the System Six that uses a very similar front triangle. Any flex would have to come from the rear triangle. The demo truck is supposed to be at Tour of the White Mountains this weekend so hopefully I can get to try a few of the bikes in person as unfortunately I had to miss Interbike this year.

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    the 07 carbun rushes had the small bridge in the swing arm. it deffintely helped.
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    awesome ride

    I had the chance to spend 1.5 hours on a team Scalpel today. I could not be more impressed. It climbs like , or better than my Taurine , and rails corners and downhills like my carbon Rush. I also felt like the suspension was smooth , and I was surprised a bit at the performance of the DT Swiss shock. All in all a great bike.....can't wait to own one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Dog
    the 07 carbun rushes had the small bridge in the swing arm. it deffintely helped.
    Did you ride a Carbon Rush without the bridge? I believe most of the flex is coming from the front triangle flexing where the swingarm attaches and not the swingarm. The swingarm was already super stiff before they added the bridge.

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    stiff

    My carb rush oes have the bridge.....both bikes are great . The Rush is an all mtn. plabike compared to the Scalpel....it ia a race bike for sure...but still fun to ride.

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    1 water bottle

    All of the guys I race with (at least the ones who do really well) race Scalpels. They all have their orders in for the '08. I notice that they all race with 2 water bottles. I wonder what they will do now. I would personally not consider the one under the down tube. I race the Rush and use a Camel Back if 1 water bottle is not enough.
    The new Scalpel frame is about 1 pound lighter than the Carbon Rush - almost all from the rear end and a little from the shock although you can change the shock on the Rush. I would think that a lighter person would be better off with the Scalpel or the Taurine - as most racers are light. My racing weight is about 200lbs. so the Rush does it for me.
    The new Scalpel's rear assembly cannot be as stiff as the Rush's thich a$$ heavy aluminum swingarm. One needs to decide if overall stiffness is more important than being 1 lb. lighter.
    To each there own.
    One thing is for sure as most of us know at the Cannondale camp. The choices are clear. It is either Cdale or Cdale or Cdale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    A quick spin review of the new Scalpel from Bike Magic... Not sure how they review usually but they didn't seem to enjoy the new Scalpel that much. Too racy for them? Too flexy? Isn't it supposed to be stiffer than the first Scalpel? A magazine review shouldn't be taken too seriously but since it's the first ride report on the bike...


    Who cares about the review from a bike mag??? If I'm intrested in a bike (or anything else) I'll check it out and decide for myself.

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    Quite frankly, this bike has to be a no-compromise race machine, otherwise everyone would be better off buying the Rush. They are too similar otherwise. Personally, I'm hoping for a glut of old Scalpels to hit the market and drive the price down to something I might be able to afford.
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    The Cannondale demo trailer was at Tour of the White Mountains this weekend and I had a chance to spend some time on a Taurine, Carbon Rush and Carbon Scalpel. The Rush and Scalpel do ride differently. The Rush is far more linear and is plusher over smaller bumps such as washboards. It also uses its travel more readily. The Rush is smoother and tracks better on rock garden descents although the Scalpel was no slouch. The Scalpel is more progressive. It is more like a longer travel version of the current bike and ramps up into its travel so it would take a big hit to get the suspension to use full travel. In the race I was riding with another rider who was demoing a new Scalpel (I considered it but dont like to change equipment right before an event) and he was able to outpace me on rough and rocky descents. The Scalpel also has a longer top tube and front center (at least in the small size I rode). As far as stiffness it seemed to me that all the bikes were stiff enough. I tried the rear wheel torque test with the new Scalpel and couldnt see any twist in the rear suspension. The major letdown for me that might rule out the new Scalpel is that it only has one bottle mount, not even one under the downtube (although the alloy version has two?) I hate wearing a pack, plus bottles are easier to refill at aid stations. The Taurine although it was way to big for me was a surprisingly smooth ride, it wasnt suspension but it certainly took the sting out of the bumps. I am leaning towards the Rush as I am more of a pure endurance racer, it has two bottle cages and a little smoother in the long haul. In addition I can also get the Carbon Rush frame for a lot less on ED trade in than the Scalpel.

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    I rode 50 miles on a pre-production 08 aluminum Scalpel yesterday. I haven't ridden the old one so I'm not going to make comparisons, but the rep told me that he won't have production carbon models until December. Point being that it may be too early to judge stiffness. I liked the bike but found that the front end was too light - probably just the setup and easily corrected with a different stem and bars.

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    You can't argue the 2008 scapel winning records in the past months. It basically blown out the competition in the World Cup. If its not the bike, i don't know whats the secret. With zero pivot on the new design, it defeated even hard tail riders which is a fantastic feat. What ever other people say against it.. just look back what Cannondale-Vredestein gang accomplished last month.

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    We just got a Demo Carbon Scalpel in at work (Team Replica). Just riding it up and down the street- Wow! Medium stock frame weighed in at 10.4 kg (22.9lbs)

    This bike loves corners. I got some front wheel drift and I just felt in absolute control. Should kill switchbacks. Love the instant acceleration. The rear end works really well.

    Will be taking it out on the trail next Tuesday for a test ride (even though it's a size too small for me). I'll post some pics and a more detailed review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majura
    Will be taking it out on the trail next Tuesday for a test ride (even though it's a size too small for me). I'll post some pics and a more detailed review.
    Lucky you!
    How tall are you? I am deciding between a medium or large and I am 184cm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iJaz
    Lucky you!
    How tall are you? I am deciding between a medium or large and I am 184cm.
    I'd say you are a Large... but there is more to it than just your height...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iJaz
    Lucky you!
    How tall are you? I am deciding between a medium or large and I am 184cm.
    A guy I work with is using it for a 24hr this weekend (hence why I can't get my paws on it till after the event). Although it's nice to ride such a $$ bike, I am a little worried about crashing the thing - touch wood.

    Anyway, I'm 186cm with an 86cm inseam and prefer Large or XL frames. Mediums have me hanging over the bike like an ape. But as DG was saying, you'd most likely fit a large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majura
    A guy I work with is using it for a 24hr this weekend (hence why I can't get my paws on it till after the event). Although it's nice to ride such a $$ bike, I am a little worried about crashing the thing - touch wood.

    Anyway, I'm 186cm with an 86cm inseam and prefer Large or XL frames. Mediums have me hanging over the bike like an ape. But as DG was saying, you'd most likely fit a large.
    Who is riding it this weekend majura?
    I'm not racing this weekend, but I'm definitely keen to come and borrow it from the shop for a day soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholasc2
    Who is riding it this weekend majura?
    I'm not racing this weekend, but I'm definitely keen to come and borrow it from the shop for a day soon.

    Nick
    Hey Nick,

    Cam's out on it this weekend. He's in one of the Corporate teams: Datastream if you want to drop by the Event Centre and have a peek.

    The Rush/Prophets that we lend out, we own. The Scalpel is owned by Cannondale Australia, so we would have to run it by them before giving it out for demo rides.

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    Thanks majura
    I'll definitely be out at some point with the long lens on the camera.

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    This is probably one of the best posts I've seen on MTBR. Right on and 100 percent correct!!!

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    Well today I started off my day by riding the new team scalpel. I road it hard up hill and hard down hill. Now I must change my previous post about the stiffness. While actually going downhill, the improved stiffness is much more noticeable. Just wiggling the bars or putting pressure on the bb, the thing feels the same as the old one, but when really riding it, it is a whole new world. It climbs as well or better than the old one and tracks way better on the downhill than the old one. There is absolutely room for one of these in my garage. By the way, the whole short seat tube/long seat post issue is a bunch of BS. I have a 33" inseam and had no soft feel in the seat post (it was a Thompson elite).

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    What size Scalpel were you riding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumshcawheely
    Well today I started off my day by riding the new team scalpel. I road it hard up hill and hard down hill. Now I must change my previous post about the stiffness. While actually going downhill, the improved stiffness is much more noticeable. Just wiggling the bars or putting pressure on the bb, the thing feels the same as the old one, but when really riding it, it is a whole new world. It climbs as well or better than the old one and tracks way better on the downhill than the old one. There is absolutely room for one of these in my garage. By the way, the whole short seat tube/long seat post issue is a bunch of BS. I have a 33" inseam and had no soft feel in the seat post (it was a Thompson elite).
    I agree. I testrode a new Scalpel Large today and I am very happy with the results. The new frame is indeed stiffer than the old one. With both Lefty and rear damper locked out the frame remains absolutely stiff while standing on the pedals. Other than that the new Scalpel behaves more or less as the old one but with more travel. I can't wait to see my new bike arrive.
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    I tested the 08 Scalpel Team!
    I was sceptecal of the rear suspension, considering I had an 06 Epic, with the Brain rear shock. All i can say was this suspension was fantastic! Now i know why they call it a Scalpel! This bike wants to be ridden. I locked it out a few times & it was as stiff as a HT.
    After that I never locked it out again. This suspension keeps it laced to the ground. The DT shock worried me cause it was carbon. It was solid! had to play with the air pressure, but once dialed in it was amazing. The only prob a had was with the Lefty. It seems the shock pump could not go in deep enough to remove some air pressure. This was a demo bike so
    I was'nt too concerened.
    I think I answered my own question Epic or Scalpel? I will be heading to my LBS & placing an order for an 08 Scalpel!
    Thanks to Cannondale for tring & implementing new ideas!

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    size question

    ok, so i got to ride a new scalpel in size large a couple of weeks ago it i liked it a lot. but i have a question on size. i am 6'2" with a 33" inseam. arms are 30" long. anyway, the bike felt a little cramped with a 100mm stem. the cannondale guy said i should prolly be on a xl but they didn't have one to try out.
    the obvious answer is to test out an xl and see how it feels. the other option is to try another large with a longer stem, say a 120mm and maybe a seatpost with some setback. i have heard that if one is in-between sizes, err on the smaller frame. what would yous guys do?

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    I think it is very interesting that stiffness is such a big issue in this hole debate. Even if the frame isn't the most torsionally still it's not the end of the world. Especially because of the elements employed to increase stiffness in other areas. The lefty hub interface is stiffer the a standard QR, The stem steered and 1.5" head-tube is stiffer then any competition, the cranks are stiffer then last years which were stiffer then xtr's and having aluminum spokes adds to wheel stiffness.

    It was interesting to me that I am a fan of a stiff frame but for a few weeks this summer I was running my pivot on my carbon rush loose this summer and it made the bike feel awesome. I really like to steer with my hips on the rush because of the slack geometry and having a loose pivot made the bike carve really well on the descents. So stiffness may not be everything. If the frame is too stiff the suspension will have to be run more open to allow for proper traction in difficult terrain ,but then not perform as well on open fire road climbs. This is not to say would like a noodle for a bike but it is saying that I may welcome the idea of a rear end that has a bit more flex then my rush. So get out and test ride the bike for yourself and don't analyze it for stiffness characteristics but see how it handles on the trails you ride and know like the back of your hand.

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    It's one of those personal preference kinda things. I don't think it's fair to push you one way or the other. That said, I always go for the bigger if two frames are close. I just feel the longer wheelbase climbs better. Also, the shorter wheelbase tends make the back end feel too light on the steep technical down hill stuff. Good luck!

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    gracias

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    ive owned my scalpel for 3 weeks now. i cant describe how nice it feels and rides. its very stiff compared to the previous version. expensive, yes, but worth it if your in the high end xc racing market.

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    Hi all!
    I posted this at WeightWeenies also.
    Got my 08 Scalpel in large today!
    It's the euro version with som differences to the US version
    According to the web sites the differences are:
    Twisters instead of Triggers
    Sram chain instead of Shimano chain
    Vredestein Black Panther instead of Maxxis MONORAIL XC UST tires
    Fi'zi:k Arione Carbon w/ Carbon rails instead of Fi'zi:k Gobi Kuim saddle
    FSA K Force Carbon SB-25 instead of Thomson Elite seat post
    Cannondale V-tech grips instead of Cannondale Morse Grip
    No pedals instead of CrankBrothers Egg Beater
    It also seems like I got the XR Carbon shock instead of the Carbon 190 SSD
    The bike was actually a little bit lighter than I thought it would be, brilliant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustusA
    Hi all!
    I posted this at WeightWeenies also.
    Got my 08 Scalpel in large today!
    It's the euro version with som differences to the US version
    According to the web sites the differences are:
    Twisters instead of Triggers
    Sram chain instead of Shimano chain
    Vredestein Black Panther instead of Maxxis MONORAIL XC UST tires
    Fi'zi:k Arione Carbon w/ Carbon rails instead of Fi'zi:k Gobi Kuim saddle
    FSA K Force Carbon SB-25 instead of Thomson Elite seat post
    Cannondale V-tech grips instead of Cannondale Morse Grip
    No pedals instead of CrankBrothers Egg Beater
    It also seems like I got the XR Carbon shock instead of the Carbon 190 SSD
    The bike was actually a little bit lighter than I thought it would be, brilliant!
    Very nice!

    As for the specs difference, you're lucky, it makes yours a bit lighter than the American version. The XR Carbon and SSD Carbon shocks are the same, the XR Carbon is just the new name for 2008. Did the tires came with tubes or already latexed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Very nice!

    As for the specs difference, you're lucky, it makes yours a bit lighter than the American version. The XR Carbon and SSD Carbon shocks are the same, the XR Carbon is just the new name for 2008. Did the tires came with tubes or already latexed?
    Yeah I think the euro specs are better than the US, but we pay so much more for our bikes than you US guys do, so it's fair!
    As for the shocks it was as I thought then, but think I saw the SSD Carbon on cswi9367's bike.
    The tires came with tubes, would have been cool if they were already latexed!
    I have a 1280 gram wheelset with NoTube rims on the way, gonna put the SLR's on ebay, so I wont be able to ride it until the new wheels arrive! Painful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustusA
    Yeah I think the euro specs are better than the US, but we pay so much more for our bikes than you US guys do, so it's fair!
    As for the shocks it was as I thought then, but think I saw the SSD Carbon on cswi9367's bike.
    The tires came with tubes, would have been cool if they were already latexed!
    I have a 1280 gram wheelset with NoTube rims on the way, gonna put the SLR's on ebay, so I wont be able to ride it until the new wheels arrive! Painful!
    I'm guessing DT still had some 07 SSD shocks in stock so they sent these first... or Cannondale Europe and US are dealing with different warehouses or distributors...

    Hope your new wheels arrive quickly or you'll end up in a mental institute having that bike and not ride it... I'm still not decided about the wheels for mine. I want true UST rims so it's either SLR or XTR wheels, leaning toward the XTR right now... The rest of my specs list is pretty much decided.

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