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    Lefty?

    [SIZE=2]I do own 2 Cannondale’s so I am not here just to say how rubbish I think the Lefty is. And love the look of Cannondale’s.

    I have over recent years tried Prophet’s, Rush’s, Scalpel’s, Jekyll’s and a couple of F-series bikes and I am left wondering how cannondale can produce such a piece of rubbish as their Headshock and Lefty forks.

    I am in the UK so I don’t know if this is widespread but why cant cannondale produce something that is as smooth as Fox or Rock Shox? And why cant they produce something that doesn’t end up with a broken lockout on your first ride?

    Every new or old Cannondale that I have tried with a Headshock fork has one of the above problems, is this something you guys just put up with or do you have some way of smothing out the forks to make them as good as Fox or Rock Shox, I have had Lefty levers literally come of in my hands in the dealer.

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    Lefties are very smooth, they sometimes need to be broken in and they do get smoother over time though. They feel different compared with regular bushing forks since they roll through their travel but still feel very smooth.

    As for a broken lockout, that's just bad luck, they usually last for the life of the bike... Or the one you had wasn't bolted on like it's supposed to.

    Cannondale have come a long way since their first Headshoks, those weren't as smooth as they are nowadays but now... I wouldn't trade my Lefties for anything else personally, their added stiffness, tracking precision, better feel, smoothness, lightness and everything else makes them far superior than anything else I have tried so far. I'm not saying it should be for everyone but I think maybe you had a bad unit and/or tried ones that weren't taken care of. And the new Lefty Fox RLC is supposedly smoother than smooth!

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    [SIZE=2]Hmm!, all forks need to be broken in and I know that Lefty’s improve quite allot, I wasn’t really talking about new bikes.

    As for the levers, they do brake quite often, (the old plastic ones up to 2006) as I have seen about 4 excluding my own from a Jekyll 2000. The metal levers for 07/8 seem allot better, I haven’t heard of a single breakage yet.

    I totally agree with you that their precision, balance and handling are superior to most forks (Fox F-120 exempt).

    I’ve actually had about 15 minuets fun on pavement with the new super smooth Fox Lefty RLC and found that it is allot better than any previous Cannondale fork but it wasn’t quite up with the EXREME smooth forks like top end Rock Shox and the new Fox F-120. And yes this particular Lefty was broken in.
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    EGF168 well I hope you feel better for that! I was going to say that there is a lack of expertise in the UK LBS and that I have posted elsewhere the sort of help I think Cannondale should provide. For myself I have got nothing but help and advice from the people on this site, for which Iam very thankful.BUT then I checed out your Blog
    " my 2007 Specialized Stumpjumper Comp originally bought for £1500 (UK) has because of the many problems with some of the stock parts on this bike cost me £459 approximately to replace the **** (apologies for the bad language) that came on the bike"......... and "with no help from Sram, Shimano, Specailized or Avid."
    It seemsthat its not just leftys you don't like.

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    just have one question, if thet are so rubbish, why do you have bought new cannondales al the time?

    if i had a bike that i thought had a "rubbish" fork, i wouldn´t buy a new one with the same "rubbish" fork, and would for sure not buy a third one with the same "rubbish" fork.

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    [SIZE=2]I am getting the feeling that Baker921 doesn’t like me. I am glad that some one is reading my Blog, actually there are only 2 bicycle companies I would never touch again, Sram and Avid, I would be happy to buy another Lefty so long as I can get the same servicing deal if it doesn’t feel super smooth.

    I do like Lefty’s and I was really wondering why the suspension turns up in such bad condition like they have gravel in them and there is very little improvement until you have a specialist suspension servicing company do the job to smooth the fork out. Once that was done it has worked perfectly.

    I first bought a Jekyll and then bought an F-2000 which conveniently had a very nice Pace carbon fork so I only have one Lefty.
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    I think the point you are trying to make is why do lefty's require so much tuning and attention, particularly right out of the box? I think that's just a trade-off personally, one that is inherent with the lefty platform. every year they seem to get better (according to my local dealers). Also, I think Cannondale assumes that your local dealer will be able to properly set up the bike for you from the get-go, which I don't think is unreasonable. More work? yes. More bugs? yes. Better? Chorus of yes and no alike. Like DG said, great, but not for everyone.

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    [SIZE=2]I’m going to shorten my original question, why do Cannondale Headshock’s arrive feeling like they are full of gravel? Why doesn’t Cannondale smooth them out before sending the bike?

    Crazylax42 has a point, but I have never had to work on the fork since it was first serviced, although the hubs tend to need servicing frequently but its an old hub that isn’t a newer sealed type.

    Baker921 where I live in the UK there are some very good dealers that are properly trained by Cannondale in Holland so no problems there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168
    [SIZE=2]I’m going to shorten my original question, why do Cannondale Headshock’s arrive feeling like they are full of gravel? Why doesn’t Cannondale smooth them out before sending the bike?
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    It's amazing how different people can have such different experiences with the same products. I've been riding Cannondales with Leftys since they first came out (and DD60 Headshoks before that) and have NEVER felt that the forks have gravel in them. I've owned original DLR's, DLR2's and MAX 140's. I guess the only practical thing to suggest to the people that don't like Lefty's is to simply sell them off and never buy them again. Leftys are one of those items that people either love or hate.

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    I have CDale forks since 1998 and never broke a Lockout lever. And I do ride a lot.

    It happened to me once that my headshock had a "gravel" feeling in it , I hadn't tuned the fork for two years and I was using it in the winter.


    BTW Avid and SRAM is the same company.....
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    EGF168 Its not that I don't like you, I just thought your 1st post sounded a bit like the man who went into an Irish Bar on St Patricks Day and sang God Save the Queen.
    I see you've since qualified your precise reservations. I'm glad your LBS are well trained by Cannondale, I wish they all were.
    I see you like Leith Hill, so you'll know all about the treacle mines then?

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    [SIZE=2][SIZE=2]Fokof
    I know perfectly well that Sram and Avid are the same company, but if I had put Avid under the Sram name I would also be including Truvativ, Rock Shox and a few other smaller companies which I don’t think make poorly designed products.

    Baker921
    I do go to the Leith hill area quite allot, I also go to the south Downs allot too. Yes I do know about the Treacle mines, I believe there are several around my Horsham area, unfortunately they are all fictional or I would be there at this moment getting a nice jar of Treacle.

    Incidentally, I am actually quarter Irish, fortunately the rest of me is as British as anyone else can claim to be.
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