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    How are Cannondale doing?

    Just out of interest?
    In a purely candid way, I don't need C'dale dealer "tell us", their stock is flying out of the doors (it may well be).

    As they seemingly have no marketing presence within the UK market. Haven't seen a bike reviewed by any of the magazine (I lie there a Trail SL review in my latest magazine), and no mention of the new messiah, the Jekyll, since it's initial press release. Let alone out on the trail, all I see if anything, are old Prophets and Rush's.

    Are they dying on there feet? Personnally I've been disillusioned with them since they stopped making the Prophet. The Rize does nothing for me in the slightest and the Jekyll, well how much is it? £2500 ($4000) for there basic model (Jekyll 4)... really?
    Yes I'm aware that a lot of bikes are bloody expensive nowaday but most manufacturer still manage a model or 2 within the £1000-2000 price range

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    You do realise there is a world outside of the UK right? And that Cannondale is a US based company? Ever wonder whether the UK distribution rights are "owned" by a UK company and not Cannondale itself and marketing is at the distributors discretion?

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    As I live in the UK I can only tell you about my 'local' experiences, hense why I'm posting on more "world wide" forum rather than a UK specific one, asking other ppl's experience...

    and Cannondale Europe supply UK dealer directly, no distributers in the way. It's not just about marketing, if you re-read I also mention I only see 'old' cannodale's on the trails...

    Maybe try answering the question, rather than trying to pick a fight?
    As it's "your" opinion I'm interested in, not bickering at the semantic's of my question

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    To be fair, you started your first post like you were looking for a fight. Reads like a direct attack on the brand.

    Lots of Cannondales out here in Asia.

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    I can only apologies for that it wasn't meant as a direct attack, though you always risk the 'anger' of loyal followers on a specific 'brands" forum. I was hoping for a discussion on how you see currently Cannondale, by all means be loyal, but be realistic too?

    I have two cannondale bikes, love em both to pieces. Just had my Lefty upgraded for ridiculous money (compared to buying new), as I think it's the brilliant piece of engineering.
    I loved C'dales ability to be ahead of the curve with a lots of kit and ideas well ahead of other manufacturers, but nothing is seemingly coming through nowadays... or am I wrong, educate me...

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    Around my area Cannondale has been kinda quiet. The year before last was the final year I saw a full suspension lefty in any of the stores. Most of the bikes were F3's. This year it seems the big thing is the hardtail 29'er.

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    I know nothing about the financial state of the company. I do know that I see a fair number of them out on the trails. They seem to be well-represented, even though there are only a couple of local dealers.

    I'm still riding my Prophet, which is my favorite bike, ever. I hope they re-introduce the Prophet before I need a new bike! Otherwise, I will continue to replace components as they wear out, and hope that the frame continues to hold up.

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    I don't know if the OP was looking for anything other than the thing he explicitly asked about. He did then go on to give some personal, let's even say limited, perspective on the brands position in the UK. I have checked out the UK based cycling forums a bit, cc.pedal or something like that. It's amazing how many posts read "Pish, posh that dosh way too bloody expensive for me. Why can't everybody else get along with thumbies, like myself"...stuff like that. But obviously there's also a SERIOUS off road/BMX cycling culture there along with the track and dandy people and everything else. I like the video where your top UCI DH rider beat the KTM factory Six Day specialist racer down a downhill course, think I saw it on Pinkbike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber Rob View Post
    I know nothing about the financial state of the company...
    not sure if anyone cares but...

    from wikipedia

    In February 2008, Dorel Industries, a diversified consumer products company, announced the purchase of Cannondale from Pegasus for approximately $200 million. Dorel is a Canadian distributor of bicycles made in Taiwan and the People's Republic of China for sale under many historic U.S. cycle brands, including Schwinn, Mongoose, Roadmaster, and GT.

    Dorel Industries Inc. (TSX: DII.B, NASDAQ: DIIB) is a Canadian company, based in Montreal, Quebec, which designs and manufactures for three areas: juvenile, home furnishings and recreational/leisure. Dorel employs approximately 4,800 people. It was formed in 1987 as a result of a merger between Dorel Co. Ltd., founded in 1962 by Leo Schwartz and Ridgewood Industries, founded in 1969. Dorel employs approximately 4,600 people and its products are sold in over 70 countries worldwide.[1]


    Being that Dorel is publically traded you should be able to find financial info on Cannondale or at least the bike companies if you really cared to do so.

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    I'm in the UK too and I'd agree, they don't seem to have much of a presence here. I see a few older ones around on the trails and Flash's / Scalpels at races only. They seem like a strange brand - all the mainstream companies like Scott and Specialized make most of their money in the £300-£1500 bracket but Cannondale hardly have any bikes in that range. They seem like they are happy to be a large but high end only company.

    I never owned one until a couple of weeks ago and always thought Cannondales were a bit left field and being different for the sake of it but once I looked into the designs in more details, I see I was wrong - lots of engineering innovations going on there. I like them for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post

    Lots of Cannondales out here in Asia.
    I bet....
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    From word of mouth - they seem fine here in ohio. OP you seemed totally fine me.

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    They're coming out with great bikes and have a hard time cranking enough to meet demand... They're doing very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z1ppy View Post
    Just out of interest?
    In a purely candid way, I don't need C'dale dealer "tell us", their stock is flying out of the doors (it may well be).

    As they seemingly have no marketing presence within the UK market. Haven't seen a bike reviewed by any of the magazine (I lie there a Trail SL review in my latest magazine), and no mention of the new messiah, the Jekyll, since it's initial press release. Let alone out on the trail, all I see if anything, are old Prophets and Rush's.

    Are they dying on there feet? Personnally I've been disillusioned with them since they stopped making the Prophet. The Rize does nothing for me in the slightest and the Jekyll, well how much is it? £2500 ($4000) for there basic model (Jekyll 4)... really?
    Yes I'm aware that a lot of bikes are bloody expensive nowaday but most manufacturer still manage a model or 2 within the £1000-2000 price range

    I have owned many Cannondales over the past 15 years, and I too was becoming concerned that they were losing their presence even in the states...with the exception of their 29er hardtails. Having a sentimental attachment to the brand I was extremely disappointed that after the 2010 RZ 140, they no longer offered a full suspension bike/Lefty fork model with over 120mm travel. BUT then along comes the new JEKYLL.No, it doesn't have the Lefty but it appeared to be a pretty sick bike. The only thing is that they seemed to be having trouble making them available to dealers in a timely fashion. I'm on the inside track with a strong CDale dealer and still it seemed that something strange was going on and the high end models were not to be found....ALAS, a few days ago I got the only Large JEKYLL ULTIMATE that was currently available in the U.S. and my friends, let me tell you, Cannondale is ALIVE and WELL. This bike is over the top in every area. No, Cannondale doesn't have the same aura it once had across the board perhaps, but they do seem to be putting out some dynamic bikes on the high end. According to my dealer, they are doing fine and if they continue building bikes like this Jekyll Ultimate, they will definitely keep my attention>>>>>>>>>
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    Cannondale is huge here in Eastern PA. They're probably half of all the bikes I see. Road and Mountain.

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    In Australia they had some teething problems when Cycling Sports Group took over distribution. This was compounded by the lack of product they had available. A shop that you used to walk in and see 20 or more Cannondales would have, if you were lucky, one old one! the shops had to start filling the shelves with other brands. This is starting to get better, but I still believe that availability is a big issue and of course stock deals with CSG.
    The bikes are good and I'm sure over the next couple of years they build their presence back up to pre-Dorel land.

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    Here in South Africa we are seeing a great deal more of them since the local distriburship was changed when Dorel bought Cannondale.

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    I bought my first Cannondale when they came out with the new Jekyll. Long wait but it was worth it once I got the bike. They do offer the Jekyll 5 in the US which is only $3k, which is a pretty reasonable price point in my mind.

    So I would say the company seems to be doing well. They had net income of $23 million last quarter and this was in there most recent press release:

    "Dorel's Recreational / Leisure segment maintained its strong performance through the second quarter with a year-over-year revenue increase of 16% and an operating profit gain of 25%. With its strong focus on innovation, Cannondale has become a much desired brand and is selling very well. In addition, the marketing investments made in Schwinn have brought the desired results," commented Dorel President and CEO, Martin Schwartz.
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    I got my first Cannondale just over 10 years ago, and I've loved it. Today I am picking up my brand new RZ120 right after work. It is going to be a long day at work !!
    I've looked at many other bike brands and what they offer, but the RZ120 with the lefty fork seemed to be the best option for me.

    I've always looked at Cannondale as one of the Elite brands, not for everybody mass market bike manufacturers. I will support them in my future bike purchases for sure because so far I am very satisfied with the quality and the tech that goes into their bikes.

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    2011 flash and scalpel's are out on the trails in Denmark but most bikes are from trek and Cube.

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    They're not doing so hot in San Diego California, they have no real mountain bike dealers down here.

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    My lbs used to have the high end cdale's like ultimate scalpel, team scalpel, Rush, RZ120, RZ 140 etc. now all they have is the cdale entry level stuff and high(er) end road bikes. As far as the "pricey" mtb's they're focusing on Santa Cruz now, as they are priced better. LBS owner said, he'll take an alloy Santa Cruz over a cannondale any day as there isn't a difference anymore....If you have to buy something that's made overseas you can might as well pick the one that comes with better components for a lesser price......
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    Yeah call me nationalistic but I really like the Handmade in USA stickers on my C'dales.

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    I hope they reintroduce the Prophet as a 96er with 160mm Lefty and DYAD and 2 X 9 gearing for AM. And yes - aluminum! But dont forget the Hammerschmidt. Do it for $3500 and I'll get one even if it is made somewhere else. Make your earnings but pass on some saving so that the sport grows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuan View Post
    Yeah call me nationalistic but I really like the Handmade in USA stickers on my C'dales.
    Really? Maybe I'm odd but I really don't care if my bike was made in the USA. I can't wait to get my next Cannondale, since from what I've been able to tell the non USA frames still ride really well.....
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    if you look at the big picture I think they are suffering from sort of identity crisis.
    Competition has stepped up big time and C-dale basically was stuck scratching their heads and churning out new models that lasted only a couple of years.
    After the Prophet you get the Rush...no big deal if you ask me. I actually have grown to like my Prophet (2nd one).
    They had the Judge and Perp DH and FR line. Then quickly dropped them and did not replace them. So no more gravity offerings.

    Then the Moto shows up for a couple of years and is quickly discontinued.
    Now the Jeckyl is back with the Claymore.

    I don't follow the HT offerings...just aware of the fully changes.

    And I agree...aside from me on my Prophet, I never see Jekyl's, Moto's...etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeriderB View Post
    if you look at the big picture I think they are suffering from sort of identity crisis.
    Competition has stepped up big time and C-dale basically was stuck scratching their heads and churning out new models that lasted only a couple of years.
    After the Prophet you get the Rush...no big deal if you ask me. I actually have grown to like my Prophet (2nd one).
    They had the Judge and Perp DH and FR line. Then quickly dropped them and did not replace them. So no more gravity offerings.

    Then the Moto shows up for a couple of years and is quickly discontinued.
    Now the Jeckyl is back with the Claymore.

    I don't follow the HT offerings...just aware of the fully changes.

    And I agree...aside from me on my Prophet, I never see Jekyl's, Moto's...etc.


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    I loved the Perp and never got to buy one because I broke my arm ankle and heel all on my left side and couldnt walk for 4 1/2 months. I couldnt test ride it and LBS ended up selling an upper range one for $2000 Canadian. Boo Hoo - it seemed like a big brother to a Prophet.

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    Cannondale is pretty popular around my neck of the woods here in CT. Somewhat understandable though. Their headquarters is 20 min up the road from me. There's even a local legend that the company was named after a nearby commuter train station.

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    The Cannondale distributor in the UK is wholly owned by Cycling Sports Group, it's not a contractual relationship.

    OleMan ; Cannondale IS NAMED after the Cannondale station ,it's not a local legend as such.
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    Hope Same story 10 years later

    Quote Originally Posted by z1ppy View Post
    Just out of interest?
    In a purely candid way, I don't need C'dale dealer "tell us", their stock is flying out of the doors (it may well be).

    As they seemingly have no marketing presence within the UK market. Haven't seen a bike reviewed by any of the magazine (I lie there a Trail SL review in my latest magazine), and no mention of the new messiah, the Jekyll, since it's initial press release. Let alone out on the trail, all I see if anything, are old Prophets and Rush's.

    Are they dying on there feet? Personnally I've been disillusioned with them since they stopped making the Prophet. The Rize does nothing for me in the slightest and the Jekyll, well how much is it? £2500 ($4000) for there basic model (Jekyll 4)... really?
    Yes I'm aware that a lot of bikes are bloody expensive nowaday but most manufacturer still manage a model or 2 within the £1000-2000 price range
    I own 2 high-end Cannondales.... After i bought my F1000sl in 2001, I was told by the dealer in Europe that the company was close to bankruptcy.... Eventually, someone came in at the last minute and kept Cannondale on its feet.... apparently, the huge amount of R&D was the cause for the losses....

    Nevertheless, this still didn't impair me from purchasing my F4000SL back in 2004....

    Frankly, i too feel that they need to market themselves more.... Specialized has taken the bulk of the market here in Asia... a pity actually... Trek too has gone down market-wise....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoyNY View Post
    The Cannondale distributor in the UK is wholly owned by Cycling Sports Group, it's not a contractual relationship.
    "not a contractual relationship", how's that work? i'm not having a go, i am genuinely interested.

    how i see the situation in the UK is more or less exactly the same as sp3000 posted about the situation in Australia.

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    Cannondale IS NAMED after the Cannondale station ,it's not a local legend as such.
    BadBoyNY, your reply got me to research the Cannondale station connection. I took the train to GCT from there every work day for 17 yrs and had no clue to the authenticity of it. Thanks!

    I'll take a pic tomorrow to share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkincake View Post
    "not a contractual relationship", how's that work? i'm not having a go, i am genuinely interested.

    how i see the situation in the UK is more or less exactly the same as sp3000 posted about the situation in Australia.
    Well if you own someone you don't need a contractual relationship, they are not a vendor , they are part of your organisation , they are managed by you.

    CSG also owns the Australian distribution too.
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    well it seems every day is a school day.

    why so cryptic though, could you not have simply stated that CSG was a part of the dorel empire.

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    I am a huge pre-dorel fan. in California everybody has a Santa Cruz. but, cdales do show up a lot. just not the new ones. all 2005 ish and older.

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    Ok not to be a grammatical Nazi but shouldn't it be "How is Cannondale Doing"?

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    preachinmachine has a nice bike. my 09 rush looks similar.. you can tell a cannondale from a mile away.
    i need to upgrade from my octalink crankset and not sure what will last and be durable.

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    My view on this:

    Dorel bought Cannondale and said it has became the "top-of-the-line" of their entire bike catalog. I don't think it will be promoted as entry level bikes with "mass-marketing" gimmicks.
    Like Toyota and Lexus.
    Fiat and Ferrari.

    You will never see as many CDales as there are Trek or Spec'ized.
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    Cannondale are doing good

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    Quote Originally Posted by fokof View Post
    My view on this:

    Dorel bought Cannondale and said it has became the "top-of-the-line" of their entire bike catalog. I don't think it will be promoted as entry level bikes with "mass-marketing" gimmicks.
    Like Toyota and Lexus.
    Fiat and Ferrari.

    You will never see as many CDales as there are Trek or Spec'ized.

    You have hit the nail on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkincake View Post
    well it seems every day is a school day.

    why so cryptic though, could you not have simply stated that CSG was a part of the dorel empire.
    Well you asked the question and I did my best to reply. I don't see how I was being cryptic, all of this is available in the public domain . I just knew it and you didn't - and now you do.

    BTW , CSG is an acronym for Cycling Sports Group, and I wouldn't use the word "empire" to describe Dorel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoyNY View Post
    As the cliche goes, you can please some of the people some of the time......
    no matey, you’ve got me all wrong i am not displeased or whatever!?! i‘m happy with your sort of explanation, it took me on a journey of discovery!

    getting back to z1ppy’s original question...

    the simple fact is cannondale are currently doing a pretty poor job marketing / delivering product in the UK. BTW, UK is an acronym for United Kingdom.

    in my humble opinion, it is the basics were c’dale are failing - bikes and mainly parts are badly affected by a very limited intermittent supply chain. also, with the exception of maybe 2 or 3 independent good dealers in the UK it is very difficult and quite pointless trying to place an order for specific c’dale components as the staff are generally ignorant to the product.

    non of this is particularly new, but i must say it has been worse since the dorel empire took over.

    all that said, i wouldn’t swap my flash.

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    It's a good question z1ppy - their presence in the UK seems pish weak at the moment. The jekyll looks amazing, but they're not widely available (if at all) and trying to find a dealer who gives a fk about the brand is hard work. When you drop 3 grand plus on a bike, with a highly sophisticated shock in MTB terms, you want some reassurance that the shop is behind the bike.
    Still, some of the bikes are genuine leaders in their class - it just seems that they're not arsed about selling them in the UK.

    Their road stuff seems popular - not a serious roadie but I see a lot of CDale bikes on the weekend rides.
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    Here in Eastern PA theres a bunch of C'dale dealers, and I see plenty of Rizes, Prophets, and older Scalpels where I ride. Hoping to see someone with the new Jeykll or Claymore. Love my prophet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkincake View Post
    no matey, you’ve got me all wrong i am not displeased or whatever!?! i‘m happy with your sort of explanation, it took me on a journey of discovery!

    getting back to z1ppy’s original question...

    the simple fact is cannondale are currently doing a pretty poor job marketing / delivering product in the UK. BTW, UK is an acronym for United Kingdom.

    in my humble opinion, it is the basics were c’dale are failing - bikes and mainly parts are badly affected by a very limited intermittent supply chain. also, with the exception of maybe 2 or 3 independent good dealers in the UK it is very difficult and quite pointless trying to place an order for specific c’dale components as the staff are generally ignorant to the product.

    non of this is particularly new, but i must say it has been worse since the dorel empire took over.

    all that said, i wouldn’t swap my flash.
    Yes UK was the acronym when I lived there too . for some reason and this seems to affect everyone globally CSG just can't seem to get their heads around the concepts of supply and demand. You are right you shouldn't get rid of your Flash, it's an amazing bike. You should try a SuperX , its a cyclocross version of the Flash, awesome bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoyNY View Post
    You should try a SuperX , its a cyclocross version of the Flash, awesome bike.
    oh YES!!! when they do a disc brake version, (soon i hope), V. muddy here in winter.

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    Well haven't looked at this thread for awhile so thought I'd check it out again, cheers for all the replies, very interesting stuff both on both the postitive and negative views - though ignoring the grammar nazi
    Also I was unaware that the distributer Cycle Sports Group had taken on the UK C'dale market, which doesn't say a lot for these attitude to the brand & ability to market it well
    Glad I'm not the only one, with the opinion Cannondale could do better in their end of school report.

    To add to my orignal comment, a friend recently approached me saying he was interested in the new Scapel, I added my 2p(cents) and sent him on his way. He then came back and said he could not locate a single Scapel in the country, had they even been imported in 2011? To me this is more sign of Cannondales/Dorel/CSG lack luster attitude.


    Finally you've got to love how you can't post a thread on a manufacturer forum asking for an opinion without being called a "troll" or accused of "seemed to be searching for a fight" as per the rep (missed 'per power' being introduced) I got from this thread.
    I'm am glad a few of you could get past this to be bothered to post, thanks.

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    Let me give everyone my take on the subject of Cannondale. They, in my opinion, used to the apple of my eye for pro bikes. However, today they are owned by Dorel Industries. Now, get this Dorel is a company that makes juvenile, home furnishings and recreational/leisure. What the hell does this company know about professional bikes? No, they don't make or engineer the bikes, but they give direction to those who do. By the way they took the manufacturing out of the US and sent it to the damn Taiwanese/Chinese. So, Dorel doesn't really have a big interest in the mountain bike community.

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