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    F29 feels funny... buy it anyway?

    I tried a 2013 F29 alloy 1. I really want to love the bike. Great setup and components, responsive and light..but... On a sharp turn or steep down hill I feel too far forward, like I might go over the bars. The frame is the right size, but something up front doesn't feel right. It might be the stem with the -5 degree rise? Is it too low, do I need a + rise?

    Is the geometry just different than my other bikes in that I have to get used to lower bars?

    I want to by it, or the F29 carbon 3. HELP!

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    Had the same feeling vs my inbred but I have grown to really like this frame. Mine is far from stock.

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    I felt too far forward on mine until I put on a riser bar, then all was good.

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    F29 feels funny... buy it anyway?

    If you don't feel it don't buy it ... but I raised the bar on mine and it fits me better. At 6-1 I am on the tall end of the range for a size Large, so I needed to get my hand position up a little. I feel a little too much pressure on my hands with the stock OEM stem. Switching from a minus-15 degree / 110mm stem to a minus-5 degree / 110mm stem raises the bar 19mm (about 3/4 inch) and shortens the reach about 3mm (about 1/8 inch). I think this will work perfect ... I have the new stem on the way in a trade for a pair of pedals.

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    See if the dealership will work with you on a positive rise OPI stem.
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    Yeah, good advice. I spoke to the shop earlier and they installed a +20 stem. I am counting on that making a difference. I wont get to try it until this weekend. I REALLY want to buy this bike. It was so damned snappy.

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    You will love your new Flash. It is one of the quickest bikes ever made for XC at any price and the attention you get from others on the trail and on the street is really nice.

    Let me know about the stem because that's on the list of things which, as a non-racing Flash owner and lover with a slightly shotty back, I feel I must do.
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    I test rode the Flash with the +20 degree stem yesterday. I sat on the bike, rode 20 feet, turned to my buddy and said "we're done... this is perfect".

    It made all the difference. The -5 degree stem was putting too much weight on my hands. Any time i turned sharp or stopped fast, it made it feel like I might go over the bars. Sure I could lean back and keep balance, but it just felt wrong. It felt like my hands might slide off the end of the bars.

    With the new +20 degree stem (same length), it all felt right. It's is amazing to me that a few degrees of angle made such a HUGE difference.

    The +20 stem that was on was a non-Cannondale stem, just to try it. I ordered the Carbon 3 and they are going to order me a new stem (matching stock) with the +20.

    I am so damned excited. I feel like Santa Clause... everyone on this thread get's +1 rep points...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott In MD View Post
    If you don't feel it don't buy it ... but I raised the bar on mine and it fits me better. At 6-1 I am on the tall end of the range for a size Large, so I needed to get my hand position up a little. I feel a little too much pressure on my hands with the stock OEM stem. Switching from a minus-15 degree / 110mm stem to a minus-5 degree / 110mm stem raises the bar 19mm (about 3/4 inch) and shortens the reach about 3mm (about 1/8 inch). I think this will work perfect ... I have the new stem on the way in a trade for a pair of pedals.
    Quote Originally Posted by johnski View Post
    I felt too far forward on mine until I put on a riser bar, then all was good.
    Just curious... What riser bars did you guys go with?

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    F29 feels funny... buy it anyway?

    On my Scalpel, I used -5 degree 100mm OPI stem and an Easton EA70 aluminum riser bar, 685mm wide and 20mm of rise. I may trade for carbon later but I already had this bar and I trust it/like it.

    On my F-29 I used -5 degree 110mm OPI stem and kept the OEM stock Enve carbon flat bar, 700mm wide.

    The Scalpel is slightly lower and longer (stack and reach) than the F-29 so this matched the cockpit geometry on the two bikes very close to identical. At 6-1 tall I have 31 inches from bottom-bracket to saddle; 22.5 and 22.8 inches from saddle tip to handle bar centerline; and 0 inches drop (ie level) from saddle to grip position. The saddle tip to grip tip distance is just a little longer on the hard tail due to slightly wider bar.

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