Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 77

Thread: F29 2 Questions

  1. #1
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560

    F29 2 Questions

    I'm in the market for a new ride. Looking for something Light & Fast that can handle the tight, twisty & tech trails here in RI. I weighed the F29 2 at my shop = 24.8lbs without pedals, so this fits the bill as weight goes (my current AM bike weight 32lbs+). My shop does not have a demo, and reviews are slim on-line, who here can elaborate on the handling of the bike and new lefty performance? I'm really wondering if it can hold its own in the corners, as I have ridden other 29r's that felt like a dump truck when the trail gets tight. Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

  2. #2
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    1,918

    Demo some 29 inch hardtails first.

    I have a F carbon 3 and love it. I think the Flashes are some of the best hardtails on the market, but you may not like the performance in the terrain you are describing. No 29er is going to carve the corners like a 26 inch wheel. Honestly its not the bike I would choose for riding tight twisty technical trails, but everyones definition of tight twisty and techy is different. I think you need to demo some 29 inch hardtails before you decide to purchase. Its very different from what your riding now.

    Also I would consider trying to stretch your budget to a carbon frame. If you end up loving the flash it won't be long before you are wanting to see how much lighter and faster you can make it, and the carbon frame gives you a good platform for upgrades.
    Visiting St george/Hurricane? Stay at my vacation rental. Discounts for MTB's

    http://www.vrbo.com/392904

    PM me

  3. #3
    LA CHÈVRE
    Reputation: Dan Gerous's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    9,435
    Check for reviews of the Flash 29er. They're the same frame as the 2013 F29, they just dropped four letters and a space in the name for some reason but it's the same excellent frames that were designed to race so I don't think they can be compared to dump trucks.

    DAN.GEROUS.NET : MOUNTAIN BIKING : CYCLOCROSS : ROAD :

  4. #4
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    Check for reviews of the Flash 29er. They're the same frame as the 2013 F29, they just dropped four letters and a space in the name for some reason but it's the same excellent frames that were designed to race so I don't think they can be compared to dump trucks.
    Thanks guys.
    I will check the reviews on the Flash.
    I know I will certianly give up something when it comes to cornering (compared to 26") I realize not all 29r's are created equally when it comes to this. Thus my reaching out to the cannondale experts... My background has been mostly FR/DH but as I get older XC has been more my game lately. This past summer I have been riding a 32lb single speed about 90% of the time. I enjoy the challenge. This is why I believe a light race oriented 29r would better suite my needs of hauling ass and not lose too much time in the corners. I have lost the loving feeling of lugging nearly 6" travel bike around for XC, (& i have a few of them...) so I thought it was about time to switch to the other end of the spectrum.

  5. #5
    LA CHÈVRE
    Reputation: Dan Gerous's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    9,435
    Cornering has more to do with geometry than wheel size and the error some 29er bikes have is that their geometry have just been based on 26" geometries. Good 29ers are designed around the the bigger wheels to get the most out of them but minimize their disadvantages. If you only drop the BB and put a shorter headtube, sure you can get the same position as on a 26" bike but the angles, especially the head angle, and the overall length of the bike (some 29ers have longer wheelbases compared to similarly sized 26" bikes) can play a big role in the bike's feel, quickness and fast change of direction. The F29/Flash were design to be as racy and quick as can be so the geometry was really designed to be 29er specific.

    A well designed 29er also gets the benefit of the larger tire contact patch while cornering, more rubber grips better, lower tire pressure grips better, that's good for cornering on a mountain bike as everyone knows. The only thing where smaller wheels are better is everything weight related, lighter wheels are a bit easier to haul uphill, they accelerate a bit faster out of corners and make it easier to throw the bike into sharp corners... but 29ers wheels and tires are getting closer to the weight of 26" counterparts, we're far from when there was only 2 wheelsets and 3 tire models available for 29ers so some would argue the weight penalty isn't much of a factor, even less when you factor in the added grip and the ease of rolling over trail surface irregularities.

    But whatever wheel size you'd go with for a light hardtail, you'll definitly find it different compared to a 32lbs SS!

    Crap, I just convinced myself, I need a F29!

    DAN.GEROUS.NET : MOUNTAIN BIKING : CYCLOCROSS : ROAD :

  6. #6
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    Cornering has more to do with geometry than wheel size and the error some 29er bikes have is that their geometry have just been based on 26" geometries. Good 29ers are designed around the the bigger wheels to get the most out of them but minimize their disadvantages. If you only drop the BB and put a shorter headtube, sure you can get the same position as on a 26" bike but the angles, especially the head angle, and the overall length of the bike (some 29ers have longer wheelbases compared to similarly sized 26" bikes) can play a big role in the bike's feel, quickness and fast change of direction. The F29/Flash were design to be as racy and quick as can be so the geometry was really designed to be 29er specific.

    A well designed 29er also gets the benefit of the larger tire contact patch while cornering, more rubber grips better, lower tire pressure grips better, that's good for cornering on a mountain bike as everyone knows. The only thing where smaller wheels are better is everything weight related, lighter wheels are a bit easier to haul uphill, they accelerate a bit faster out of corners and make it easier to throw the bike into sharp corners... but 29ers wheels and tires are getting closer to the weight of 26" counterparts, we're far from when there was only 2 wheelsets and 3 tire models available for 29ers so some would argue the weight penalty isn't much of a factor, even less when you factor in the added grip and the ease of rolling over trail surface irregularities.

    But whatever wheel size you'd go with for a light hardtail, you'll definitly find it different compared to a 32lbs SS!

    Crap, I just convinced myself, I need a F29!
    You make a good salesman!
    I have been sold on 29" wheels for some time now. I recently demo'd a (rather not say) Big name in the biz, and it was about 28lbs 4" full suspension 29r, that was great everywhere but the tight corners. It was unbelievable how much a 26" rider would pull away from me after a tight corner. No matter how I wrestled that thing. The front end push was a deal breaker! That is my fear of buying a bike I have not been able to try, only to find out it has some bad manners where it counts...

  7. #7
    LA CHÈVRE
    Reputation: Dan Gerous's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    9,435
    Well of course, trying one would be the best, no matter what we say, it can't replace trying it for yourself. But was that 28lbs 4" 29er FS compared with a 28lbs 4" FS 26er? Remember that a 20lbs 26" hardtail would clearly accelerate out of corners much quicker than a 28lbs 4" FS 26er too... And maybe that particular bike you tried was just not designed to be a twisty trail eater! Or it was just a bad bike!

    And while your shop might not have a demo, they might be able to get one from the Cannondale rep. The rep here had a Flash 29er 1 that could be tried...

    DAN.GEROUS.NET : MOUNTAIN BIKING : CYCLOCROSS : ROAD :

  8. #8
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    The 26" that pulled away in the corners was a (+/- 33lb) DJ hard tail!! Piloted by someone with very similar fitness as myself. I was able to reel him in everywhere else on the trail. By the 11 mile mark he was wiped trying to keep my pace, and I felt like I needed to do another lap...
    Prior to this I was 29r curious, after this, I was a believer.
    I would not say it was a bad bike I was on, just not up to the task for fast tight corners. I have heard 1st hand reviews saying the same thing about this 'proprietary' bike geometry.
    I will push my dealer for a Demo... Thanks!

  9. #9
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    1,918

    Demo Demo Demo

    I gotta disagree with DG on a few points. Keep in mind I am comparing a 25 lb 26 inch wheel FS bikes (Epic Racer X) to a 23 lb Flash 29. I am comparing the whole bikes which is more then just wheel size. Never had the change to ride 26 and 29 inch versions of the same bike back to back.

    1. 26 inch wheels are an advantage on the climb.

    The 29 inch bike to me feels a little faster climbing. Maybe more then a little. The F29 is a climbing machine.

    2. The only downside to 29 is the weight.

    The bigger wheels for me just feel harder to get around tight turns. It take alot more effort and I feel like I slow down more coming into the turn because 29 just does not turn as tight. I would not call a f29 a tank in the corners but its definatly harder to manuver then a 26 inch hafrdtail.

    My feeling is the 29 inch wheels climb better, and are most at home on smooth wide open high speed trails. In tight low speed rocky rooty areas the more nimble 26 inch wheel feels better to me. I agree however that compared to a 32 lb ss any Flash will feel like a rocket
    Visiting St george/Hurricane? Stay at my vacation rental. Discounts for MTB's

    http://www.vrbo.com/392904

    PM me

  10. #10
    mtbr member
    Reputation: StumpyElite2010's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    405
    29er wheels will definitely require more power to crank up-hill using same gear ratio as a 26er...
    I'd say probably 2 teeth rear cog difference in order to achieve same level of power.

    Anyway, how come your SS s 32 lbs ???
    My Alum. Niner one9 is approx 23 lbs...
    S.C. TB2
    Pivot Mach 5.7 27.5
    Flash29C2
    Niner One9 SingleSpeed RDO fork
    Supersix Evo 1 Hi Mod D/A

  11. #11
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Its a Mountain Cycle Rumble that is built like a tank. Its my do everything ride. Really digging SS these days, but the weight is killing me.. hhhmmm F29 SS???

  12. #12
    mtbr member
    Reputation: StumpyElite2010's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    405
    For SS, Check out the 2012 Hydro Alum. Niner One 9.
    Amazing geometry and it is soooo light...
    Pair it with SID Fork, Schwalbe RaRa's tubeless /Stan's Crest wheels and you have a race-worthy sub 23lbs bike.

    For geared bike - Niner Air and of-course the amazing Flash/F29
    OR the Scalple 29...

    I have all of the above, love them all...
    S.C. TB2
    Pivot Mach 5.7 27.5
    Flash29C2
    Niner One9 SingleSpeed RDO fork
    Supersix Evo 1 Hi Mod D/A

  13. #13
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    I have been looking @ Niners, but its more than I can spend right now...

  14. #14
    mtbr member
    Reputation: StumpyElite2010's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    405
    Quote Originally Posted by MC9.5 View Post
    I have been looking @ Niners, but its more than I can spend right now...
    You can get a used one , nicely equipped at FleeBay at less than 2k.
    This one seems sweet - specc'ed very close to mine (albeit sold)

    Nearly New Niner One 9 Tang Single Speed 29er Size LG 19 Nice Build | eBay
    S.C. TB2
    Pivot Mach 5.7 27.5
    Flash29C2
    Niner One9 SingleSpeed RDO fork
    Supersix Evo 1 Hi Mod D/A

  15. #15
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    I put money down on the F29 tonight. Hopefully I will have it before it snows... The parking lot test was great!

  16. #16
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    Did a parking lot test on a 2013 F29-2. I thought it to be nimble as compared to my Trek EX8. I agree about some 29ers feeling like a dump truck. LBS is supposed to get some demo bikes in, can wait to take one on the trails. Loved the lefty. I only wonder if the $300 would be wisly spent on getting the F29-1? I really dig the green and black though.
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  17. #17
    mtbr member
    Reputation: thatdrewguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    460
    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    I only wonder if the $300 would be wisly spent on getting the F29-1? I really dig the green and black though.
    I checked the specs and it seems the major differences are the (29-2) being a Shimano drivetrain and Formula brakes and (29-1) having Sram and Avid brakes. The (29-1) is a double 2x10 crank vs the Shimano triple. For me it would be worth going with the F29-1 for the double front for a bit less weight and definitely a lot less chain slap.

  18. #18
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by thatdrewguy View Post
    I checked the specs and it seems the major differences are the (29-2) being a Shimano drivetrain and Formula brakes and (29-1) having Sram and Avid brakes. The (29-1) is a double 2x10 crank vs the Shimano triple. For me it would be worth going with the F29-1 for the double front for a bit less weight and definitely a lot less chain slap.
    The extra cash for the F29-1 and the fact my shop did not have one were major players in my decision. I really dig the black & green of the F29-2. Although I would have preferred the Sram 2 ring dirvetrain as this will be my 1st shimano equipped bike in 10yrs. It does however have the rear mech with the anti chainslap clutch! I probably will upgrage the cranks when time for new rings... Carbon bar & tubeless will be the 1st upgrades. It would be nice to eventually shave a pound off the bike. Having being opposed to anything Shimano for a long time (for various reasons) and never had a bike that weighed under 30lbs, this will be all new to me. I look forward to the change in scenery...

  19. #19
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Did a parking lot test on a 2013 F29-2. I thought it to be nimble as compared to my Trek EX8. I agree about some 29ers feeling like a dump truck. LBS is supposed to get some demo bikes in, can wait to take one on the trails. Loved the lefty. I only wonder if the $300 would be wisly spent on getting the F29-1? I really dig the green and black though.
    Suprisingly nimble I thought, even if it were only in the lot. Lefty felt nice. Cannot wait to thrash it!

  20. #20
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    I was also thinking of the tires being better on the F29-1. I think they are tubeless ready. The brakes are Magura on the 29-2. Also you get better rear hub.But yea the green and black is hard to pass up....it is better looking in person. As far as comparing it to my EX8 for being nimble It was not more nimble than the EX8 but it had a feel closer to a 26" than any 29er I have ridden. Funny you mention not having shimano....I have never had sram. I swore the 29-2 I rode had SLX shifters but specs show it being deore. I would be interested in spending a day with sram gear.Many people around here are fans of SRAM. I really like the clutch concept on the XT rd. I wish my 2011 EX8 had it. I think you will get almost a pound off by going tubeless. How does WTB do tubeless? Rim tape? I just know how Bontrager does it...just a rim strip and new presta valve.
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  21. #21
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    How does WTB do tubeless? Rim tape? I just know how Bontrager does it...just a rim strip and new presta valve.
    Yes, you would need rim tape & valve according to the WTB site. I agree, the tires on the 2 look to be good for going fast in a str8 line but thats it... The front tire will not last long, I can tell.

  22. #22
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    So I got the bike home today and its in my garage on the stand awaiting its 1st ride tomorrow. This should be interesting as the ride will be a 6 mile NIGHT RACE held by my local shop. I rode the coarse yesterday and timed it on my 32lb Single Speed. I cannot wait to compare times. Wish me luck!

    Here it is in all its glory (reflectors/plastic pedals and all) after picking it up @ lunch time today. Just got done getting rid of the junk and tuning it up. Ready to go!

    Last edited by MC9.5; 11-19-2012 at 06:36 PM.

  23. #23
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    94
    Pic not available. I'm really curious on your times as well. Just ordered a f29 carbon 3, coming from a 2008 28 lb singlespeed 29er.

  24. #24
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    picture fixed. I will post my time difference (if any!).

  25. #25
    mtbr member
    Reputation: wallstreet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    344
    Read this about tyres as you need to know how to use the right ones :-


    http://singletrackworld.com/forum/to...ron-whats-best

    Next topic Nic on Front & Ralph on rear

    http://www.bicycles.net.au/2011/01/r...e-combination/

    Beautiful bike btw, I have two Lefty Flash & love them

  26. #26
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreet View Post
    Read this about tyres as you need to know how to use the right ones :-


    Racing Ralph / Nobby Nic / Rocket Ron... what's best? « Singletrack Forum

    Next topic Nic on Front & Ralph on rear

    Review: Schwalbe Nobby Nic and Racing Ralph Tyre Combination | Bicycles Network Australia

    Beautiful bike btw, I have two Lefty Flash & love them
    Thanks for the info.
    New tires are a must. The stock tires look a bit minimalistic for my taste. Schwalbe (although I have never used them) were already on my short list.

    Also,
    My shop recomended the SAVE? seatpost. Anyone care to comment on its value/performance?

  27. #27
    mtbr member
    Reputation: wallstreet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    344
    The post is 234g I think, I like it and feel slight flex at mid rpm's. You can probably get lighter, however it takes some of the rattle shocks better than alloy. It's engineered to have 40mm movement it is perfect, some hard @ss rpm guys may find it not rigid enough.

    Personally have this on both my Flash Lefty's. I would recommend it if you like the plush feel, it takes the edge of.

  28. #28
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    Quote Originally Posted by MC9.5 View Post
    So I got the bike home today and its in my garage on the stand awaiting its 1st ride tomorrow. This should be interesting as the ride will be a 6 mile NIGHT RACE held by my local shop. I rode the coarse yesterday and timed it on my 32lb Single Speed. I cannot wait to compare times. Wish me luck!

    Here it is in all its glory (reflectors/plastic pedals and all) after picking it up @ lunch time today. Just got done getting rid of the junk and tuning it up. Ready to go!

    Looks great! For me its going to between the Trek Superfly elite or the Cannondale exactly like yours
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  29. #29
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Looks great! For me its going to between the Trek Superfly elite or the Cannondale exactly like yours

    Thanks!
    I have ridden both versions of the Superfly, great bikes but really lacking in the tight turn department... I loved the bike everywhere else on the trail. Certianly suited for a specific type of riding.

  30. #30
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreet View Post
    The post is 234g I think, I like it and feel slight flex at mid rpm's. You can probably get lighter, however it takes some of the rattle shocks better than alloy. It's engineered to have 40mm movement it is perfect, some hard @ss rpm guys may find it not rigid enough.

    Personally have this on both my Flash Lefty's. I would recommend it if you like the plush feel, it takes the edge of.
    My thought was to drop some weight and add some compliance to the ride. I dont spin high RPM, as I prefer to mash a large gear. A little movement will not bother me. MBA mag just had a test on the Niner post and raved about. It sounds like the Niner post is .07lbs lighter but more expensive... Might as well stick with the C-Dale.

  31. #31
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    Quote Originally Posted by MC9.5 View Post
    Thanks!
    I have ridden both versions of the Superfly, great bikes but really lacking in the tight turn department... I loved the bike everywhere else on the trail. Certianly suited for a specific type of riding.
    In what areas do you think the Cdale handles better than the Superfly? I did notice the Superfly seems longer and not as well on sharp turns. The cannondale felt more like a 26er. I can see the Trek handling open single track very well. Of course this is coming from a parking lot test. I would like to hear your observations.

    I wonder if i could do away with a 26er FS owning one a Trek superfly or cdale F29?
    Last edited by stygz1; 11-20-2012 at 12:03 PM.
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  32. #32
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    In what areas do you think the Cdale handles better than the Superfly? I did notice the Superfly seems longer and not as well on sharp turns. The cannondale felt more like a 26er. I can see the Trek handling open single track very well. Of course this is coming from a parking lot test. I would like to hear your observations.

    I wonder if i could do away with a 26er FS owning one a Trek superfly or cdale F29?
    I will not be able to speak intelligently until my first real ride on the F29 tonight (about an hour/cannot wait!). Like you, I have only a parking lot test and a quick spin around my hood last night to compare the two. I have put 12miles of single track down on the Superfly. To make my decision, I knew the Superfly would not be the bike I was looking for, the F29 felt great in the lot, so I went out on a limb and pulled the trigger on the F29. I hope my speculation is correct!! I will find out soon enough. I will certainly report my findings for you.

  33. #33
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    Quote Originally Posted by MC9.5 View Post
    I will not be able to speak intelligently until my first real ride on the F29 tonight (about an hour/cannot wait!). Like you, I have only a parking lot test and a quick spin around my hood last night to compare the two. I have put 12miles of single track down on the Superfly. To make my decision, I knew the Superfly would not be the bike I was looking for, the F29 felt great in the lot, so I went out on a limb and pulled the trigger on the F29. I hope my speculation is correct!! I will find out soon enough. I will certainly report my findings for you.
    Yes keep us/me informed. I have yet to ride the superfly but did ride a trek cobia which I believe has most the same geoetry as the superfly. I know the Superfly has better components and better frame material. My LBS (Trek) most never carries anything above a trek X-caliber ($1700). They will happily order what I want though. But the cannondale dealer has higher end bikes like yours instock and some demos. Going there tomorrow to see if they have a demo ready. I have been a fan of Trek and Cannondale for years but the Trek dealer makes it hard without having demo bikes while the cannondale does. Both dealers are pretty good. But as you can see by my signature the trek dealer is my primary.
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  34. #34
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    Speaking of tires I had racing ralphs on my 2004 Arrow F sixteen (euro bike) and they were a great tire. Actually better than I thought they were now looking back. Also look at kenda slant 6. I have been happy with those. Seem to be a good happy medium tire.
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  35. #35
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    It appears my speculation has paid off. I had a great ride tonight. After riding the superfly and now the F29, I am left with this conclusion = The F29 is the better bike for me.
    The lefty performed flawlessly (and getting full travel). This is suprising because I never checked the air pressure in it as it felt good straight out of the shop. Will check it soon though...
    Cornering was superior to the Superfly. I didnt have any issues with that. Being at night, racing and not really trusting the bikes (&tires) capabilities yet, I did blow a couple corners, albeit not bad. I really cannot blame the bike there. I feel confident that with some time in the saddle, any cornering woes will be erased.This is not something I would claim with the Superfly.
    The only thing I struggled with was pedal strikes. I am not used to a bike with such a low BB. With all my other bikes I am used to pedaling out of the hard corners due to the higher BB. It is a habit I will have to break. The stikes were only a real issue in the corners. But let's face it, I was racing and trying to pedal whenever possible...
    The best part of all was that I shaved 5+ minutes off that same loop compared to this past Sunday riding my other bike. While yes I was racing, I didnt feel like I tried any harder than 2 days prior.
    So far I am very happy!

  36. #36
    mtbr member
    Reputation: wallstreet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    344
    Well done!

    It's the best choice and I know you will not look back that's why I have two Leftys as well.

    I would suggest you change the tyres.

    Assume you had Racing Ralph's on the bike? Were the conditions dry or wet?
    Last edited by wallstreet; 11-21-2012 at 01:59 AM.

  37. #37
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreet View Post
    Well done!

    It's the best choice and I know you will not look back that's why I have two Leftys as well.

    I would suggest you change the tyres.

    Assume you had Racing Ralph's on the bike? Were the conditions dry or wet?
    conditions were mostly dry w/only a couple sections of slime. The race trail was cleared with a leaf blower a couple days prior so it was CLEAN! Had there been leafs to deal with it may have been a different story. There is not much to that front tire that is on there now...

    I was a bit worried this Lefty only had 90mm (my 1st susp fork in the early 90's had more than that...) but worry no more! The Lefty really held its own. Not once did it occur to me while riding that it was only half of a traditional fork. I say that because many people have already asked me if while looking down, that would bother me. My response: I dont look at my front wheel

  38. #38
    mtbr member
    Reputation: wallstreet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    344
    My hi-mod is slammed down and I may raise the angle as it feels nervous going downhill vs my 29er. It seems you have the right characteristics you need, the 90mm for XC is enough.. It's also a comfy bike as the Carbon and SAVE features take up the road conditions of bumps & thumps.

    It's a thrilling bike - fast in most conditions, I would suggest Nobby Nics on the front for now and if you like to tart her up do this (white stripes)


  39. #39
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    1,453
    All else equal...a lower BB will make the bike handle better.

    I ride a Flash 29er and my brother rides a Superfly 29er.His bike has less wheel hop on steep climbs due to the longer wheel base but simply can't hang in the handling department.
    My large Flash has a shorter wheel base then his Med Superfly but this does have to do with the G2 geometry.

    I am no question faster on my Flash 29er then aboard my 26" Rush that i adored "still do" but Cannondale really has the geometry of the Flash dialed in.

  40. #40
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    I am 5'9" with about a 30 in inseam....medium on the flash?
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  41. #41
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    If you want to keep those crank arm ends looking good. They have crank arm ends and crank arm protectors (shoe rub area) specific to your crank arm

    Crankskins
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  42. #42
    mtbr member
    Reputation: wallstreet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    344
    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    I am 5'9" with about a 30 in inseam....medium on the flash?
    Should be fine, I am 5'11", 31" inseam. Running medium on both bikes, small maybe too small but best is that you go in to try both Small & Medium.

  43. #43
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreet View Post
    Should be fine, I am 5'11", 31" inseam. Running medium on both bikes, small maybe too small but best is that you go in to try both Small & Medium.
    I'm 5'11" with a 30" inseam and went with the large. There is not alot of standover clearance and I am running the seat all the way forward. I have a 90mm stem on order which should get my seat back in postition. Even the way it is, I felt very comfortable on it. I too normally run a medium frame...

  44. #44
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    If you want to keep those crank arm ends looking good. They have crank arm ends and crank arm protectors (shoe rub area) specific to your crank arm

    Crankskins
    thanks! The green ones would match nicely. Although my initial plan was to wait till I wear the rings off these cranks and go with a single ring crank. I NEVER use the granny or the big ring...

  45. #45
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by Bird View Post
    All else equal...a lower BB will make the bike handle better.

    I ride a Flash 29er and my brother rides a Superfly 29er.His bike has less wheel hop on steep climbs due to the longer wheel base but simply can't hang in the handling department.
    My large Flash has a shorter wheel base then his Med Superfly but this does have to do with the G2 geometry.

    I am no question faster on my Flash 29er then aboard my 26" Rush that i adored "still do" but Cannondale really has the geometry of the Flash dialed in.
    I'm not sure I have ever owned a bike with a BB this low before. I'm with you, it will make the bike handle better. I do not see this as a negative at all. I just need to re-program my brain to the difference which may take a few rides I'm sure.

    You are correct about the Superfly lacking in the handling dept. It sure felt good on the straights and swoopy corners though.

  46. #46
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    Quote Originally Posted by MC9.5 View Post
    thanks! The green ones would match nicely. Although my initial plan was to wait till I wear the rings off these cranks and go with a single ring crank. I NEVER use the granny or the big ring...
    Not a problem.....plus they are cheap too!

    Did your bike come with SLX shifters without the gear indicators? It says on the website it has deore shifters but just was at the LBS and the bike on the floor had SLX. I was talking to the guy about getting one after the holidays. He said if the one on the floor is gone sometimes he can have a long wait to get one ordered from cannondale. They said cannondale builds a number of bikes (specific models i assume) and it may be up to 6 months until he can get another. But without a crystal ball to tell the future I will just have to cross that bridge when I get to it. it. I can also check other dealers in the area. I am not too far from Atlanta. How did the brakes work? LBS said according to their scales the medium is about 23lbs.
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  47. #47
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Not a problem.....plus they are cheap too!

    Did your bike come with SLX shifters without the gear indicators? It says on the website it has deore shifters but just was at the LBS and the bike on the floor had SLX. I was talking to the guy about getting one after the holidays. He said if the one on the floor is gone sometimes he can have a long wait to get one ordered from cannondale. They said cannondale builds a number of bikes (specific models i assume) and it may be up to 6 months until he can get another. But without a crystal ball to tell the future I will just have to cross that bridge when I get to it. it. I can also check other dealers in the area. I am not too far from Atlanta. How did the brakes work? LBS said according to their scales the medium is about 23lbs.
    I do not have gear indicators, so I believe thery are Deore.
    See if you can work out a layaway program with your shop. This is what I did. I heard the same about waiting...
    The Magura MT2 brakes worked well. I have not tested them on long downhills, but for XC use they seem more than capable. Not overly strong & they have good modulation. The lever feel is precise. My 1st time w/Magura's and I now see why they have recieved good reviews. I will certainly update this once I have more time in the saddle.
    Without pedals, mine was just over 24lbs.

  48. #48
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    560
    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Not a problem.....plus they are cheap too!

    Did your bike come with SLX shifters without the gear indicators? It says on the website it has deore shifters but just was at the LBS and the bike on the floor had SLX. I was talking to the guy about getting one after the holidays. He said if the one on the floor is gone sometimes he can have a long wait to get one ordered from cannondale. They said cannondale builds a number of bikes (specific models i assume) and it may be up to 6 months until he can get another. But without a crystal ball to tell the future I will just have to cross that bridge when I get to it. it. I can also check other dealers in the area. I am not too far from Atlanta. How did the brakes work? LBS said according to their scales the medium is about 23lbs.
    Correction: My bike IS equipped with SLX shifters without gear indicators (just checked). Checked the web site and it does say Deore...

    Looks like I may have to get those tires sooner than later... While checking the the shifters, I noticed my front tire was FLAT! It appeared to have the slightest of snake bites on one side. Patched it up for now. I need to get with the swing of things and buy some 29" tubes!

  49. #49
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,487
    Still planning on checking out the Trek's for comparison. Dont care for specialized which is instock at the cannondale dealer also. Going to make some calls to see if the Trek stores in the Atlanta area have the 2013 Superfly elite instock. Still leaning towards the Cannondale though.
    2014 Niner RIP 9
    Full XT
    Rock Shox Pike 140
    Roval Control Carbon

  50. #50
    mtbr member
    Reputation: wallstreet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    344
    Someone I thought on here did the same comparison & ended up with the Flash

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •