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    Carbon Rush

    Just wanted to show you my most recent purchase...07 Carbon Rush Team. 25 lbs. as you see her in an XL frame. Rides amazing.

    My Prophet is for sale on the bay right now...see my signature.



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    Looks great! I like the grey better than the blue, not big on the Vredestein team scheme (unless you are wearing the kit!) Unfortunately they didnt have any 07 small frames left in grey, so hopefully a blue one with SI cranks is on its way to me today.........

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    Nice!

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    What do you think of the this alternative black swingarm combination?
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    Quote Originally Posted by schuster_md
    What do you think of the this alternative black swingarm combination?
    It looks even better!! nice bike

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    Gotta agree, you can never have too much black on a bike.

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    Wow, I really dig that black swingarm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schuster_md
    What do you think of the this alternative black swingarm combination?
    The Black is definitely better. How do you find the Spinergy wheels - they seem to get good reviews. Are they much different to the SLRs ????

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    The Spinergy Xyclone was a great alternative to the Xmax wheels: same weight (1590 grs, never get untrue and half price). I also read the reviews and decided to give them a try, I hope they will not let me down... (3 months now since I got them and zero fault)
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    How did you swing that black swingarm? (no pun intended)
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    TheProphet.... you'll need a new name!

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    I know! I think I'll keep it for sentimental value though.
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    Do you mind if i asked why you switched from the prophet to a rush? Are you looking at doing more enduro/XC riding? Just wanted a lighter ride as opposed to the prophet's AM capability? Just got an '06 MX2 and i love its AM ability but sometimes (hills) i wish it were 5 pounds lighter... but downhill it is a dream

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    I got rid of the Prophet for three reasons:
    1. I got a REALLY good deal on the Rush
    2. I dont ride my Prophet as much anymore because my local riding trails are turning into (insert mean word here). They are getting rid of everything that pretty much resembles a TTF. And I want to try more 12/24 hour races
    3. And I own a Cannondale Judge and I can pedal that thing fine to get my AM/DH fix.

    And who doesnt love to upgrade? If you never ridden a Rush, carbon in particular, I was very suprised at how fast and comfortable this bike is.
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    prophet i sent you a private messege...

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    Great looking Rush there Prophet!!! Although I am a bit biased, mine's the same color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schuster_md
    What do you think of the this alternative black swingarm combination?
    That is freakin' funny! I was thinking seriously the other day about taking the black swingarm off of my warranteed frame and putting it on this new one. The old frame's seattube inner diameter was too big. I decided to go with the the stock because of the sand-blasted finish which is very cool and cannot be appreciated in a photo. It is the only swingarm Cdale makes that is sand-blasted as far as I know.

    I just built it up yesturday and took it out for a 3 hour ride. Friggin' fast as hell. here it is with a few mods. Notice the SL cranks and the 7-7/8in. rear shock. That is 140mm of rear travel. Still feels just like a Rush(i.e. cornering and out of saddle efforts) except when you hit a bump or are doing a technical climb and then it is much better.
    70 degree head angle. 13" bottom bracket height.
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    wow, that thing looks amazing

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    You've got some clearance problems there man or everything is just really close.

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    it's just a dillusion...the shock is actually closer to 7-3/4". I'm just havin' fun makin' it mine. Could not dig the 12.4" BB height of old.

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    I have noticed myself hitting my pedals a lot more on the ground. I could see a pedal break in my future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheProphet
    I have noticed myself hitting my pedals a lot more on the ground. I could see a pedal break in my future.
    I was having the same problem. Both of us came off the Prophet and am used to a 13 3/4" BB height while is def. too high for the Rush, they should know that 12.4" (which is where mine was) is too damn low. Especially when you take into account the sag which increases when you are climbing since more weight is on the rearend. When I was doing tech. climbs and rock gardens that I used to plow through on the Prophet, I found they were very difficult to manage with out knocking a rock and coming to a hault on the Rush. I am thinking at this point, the Rush is supposed to be faster but I keep losing momentum in the rough so it's not faster overall even though we both know it is def. faster in many situations.
    Now after raising the BB to 13" I almost never hit the pedal anymore and it is life in the fast lane again
    Without a doubt now, faster than the Prophet by a long shot.
    I used to race the Prophet and I did well with it, but now, my wife keeps telling me that my competitors at the races are confronting her with how bumbed out they are when they found out I showed up.
    It delivers...

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    dan now that you have a rush carbon, are you still looking at getting a 2008 scalpel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david8613
    dan now that you have a rush carbon, are you still looking at getting a 2008 scalpel?
    If I'm the Dan you are talking about, I don't have a Carbon Rush... and yes, still looking at getting a new Scalpel!
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    oops sorry got you mixed up with the prophet,,,

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    Here's my 07 Team Carbon / small frame / with a few upgrades... managed to shave off almost 2lbs - just the cassette alone shaved off about 200 grms

    1. Middleburn Chainrings - w/SlickShift middle ring
    2. XTR Titanium Cassette
    3. SRAM chain w/power link
    4. Alien Seatpost - Red ano
    5. Hope QR Seatpost clamp - blue ano
    6. WTB "Pure" seat
    7. Frog Titanium pedals
    8. Race Face NEXT SL Carbon bars
    9. Nokon sealed anodized shifter cables


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    sick rings!
    damn thats a mean ride...

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    Here is my new Carbon Rush at the top of Four Peaks in Arizona. A 2 hour climb up dirt road and some singletrack at the top.
    I built it from the frame/crank combo up. I love epic rides and race primarily Marathon/100 mile/12 and 24 hour races.

    Currently:
    Small Rush Carbon Frame, Carbon SL fork
    SRAM XO shifters/rear derailleurs XTR front KMC X9SL chain
    Eggbeater 4ti pedals
    Formula Oro K24 brakes (Puro upgrade planned)
    Salsa Pro Moto Bar
    Easton carbon post (Thomson Masterpiece on the way)
    Selle Italia Flite Gel saddle
    DT 240 rear, Lefty Omega front laced to DT 4.2D with Sapim CX Ray 32 hole and DT tubeless kit
    Python Front/Crossmark UST rear (using up old tires for winter training!)

    So far I am really liking the bike. I had been on a medium Scalpel, but it was too long and hard for me to turn in tight singletrack, the Rush is able to track much better in the tight stuff and loose corners as I can get weight on the front end. The front end is very stiff, my team mate commented it made his Scalpel tubes look narrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellijayne

    1. Middleburn Chainrings - w/SlickShift middle ring
    2. XTR Titanium Cassette
    3. SRAM chain w/power link
    4. Alien Seatpost - Red ano
    5. Hope QR Seatpost clamp - blue ano
    6. WTB "Pure" seat
    7. Frog Titanium pedals
    8. Race Face NEXT SL Carbon bars
    9. Nokon sealed anodized shifter cables
    I love the upgrades. Bike looks awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Wombat
    Here is my new Carbon Rush at the top of Four Peaks in Arizona. A 2 hour climb up dirt road and some singletrack at the top.
    Currently:
    Small Rush Carbon Frame, Carbon SL fork
    SRAM XO shifters/rear derailleurs XTR front KMC X9SL chain
    Eggbeater 4ti pedals
    Formula Oro K24 brakes (Puro upgrade planned)
    Salsa Pro Moto Bar
    Easton carbon post (Thomson Masterpiece on the way)
    Selle Italia Flite Gel saddle
    DT 240 rear, Lefty Omega front laced to DT 4.2D with Sapim CX Ray 32 hole and DT tubeless kit
    Python Front/Crossmark UST rear (using up old tires for winter training!)Kevin
    Another sweet Carbon Rush And that view is beautiful. This is the first place I have lived since I've been riding that does not have a long climb. I do miss it.

    You have the same bar as me. It is the only 26" flat bar made unless you get a custom Ti.
    Kevin, I noticed that the small bikes I see have a high front end relative to the saddle height as compared to the large/XL bikes. I know they make negative rise SI stems for shorter folks. For example, Kellijayne's Rush's front end is about the same height as mine and I am 6'4"(I have a flat bar, but my stem has a 20 degree rise). Would that make climbing more uncomfortable, or because a shorter person's center of gravity is closer to the front, does it gives you the luxury of being able to have a higher front-end?

    By the way, do you plan on racing it? For me anyway, it is the fastest and bestestest bike I have ever had. A speed deamon

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet

    You have the same bar as me. It is the only 26" flat bar made unless you get a custom Ti.
    Kevin, I noticed that the small bikes I see have a high front end relative to the saddle height as compared to the large/XL bikes. I know they make negative rise SI stems for shorter folks. For example, Kellijayne's Rush's front end is about the same height as mine and I am 6'4"(I have a flat bar, but my stem has a 20 degree rise). Would that make climbing more uncomfortable, or because a shorter person's center of gravity is closer to the front, does it gives you the luxury of being able to have a higher front-end?

    By the way, do you plan on racing it? For me anyway, it is the fastest and bestestest bike I have ever had. A speed deamon
    I run a -5 degree 100mm stem, plus the flat bar it puts the bar almost level with the saddle. I dont have any issues with climbing on this bike, it could be because of the short front center, but a very slight weight shift forwards and I can climb steep granny gear grades which we have quite a few of in Arizona without the front wheel coming up.
    I do plan on racing the bike for a full slate of events next season. I am going to race the Arizona Endurance Series, 24 Hours in the Old Pueblo in the solo division, Payson Stampede 12 hour and probably take a trip up north for the E100 in Park City Utah. If I can make it work I would like to take on the Tour of Colorado with a team mate as well. So far with 2 4 hour back to back rides I am really liking the bike. I may make a few changes, but its good to go as is. For racing I will probably run a Ti cassette and smoother courses Stans up standard tires instead of UST. I was seriously considering the new Scalpel, but in the Carbon version only one bottle cage is a big minus for me at many events as its a lot faster to refill bottles, or pick up new ones at a gear drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Wombat
    Here is my new Carbon Rush at the top of Four Peaks in Arizona. A 2 hour climb up dirt road and some singletrack at the top.
    I built it from the frame/crank combo up. I love epic rides and race primarily Marathon/100 mile/12 and 24 hour races.

    Currently:
    Small Rush Carbon Frame, Carbon SL fork
    SRAM XO shifters/rear derailleurs XTR front KMC X9SL chain
    Eggbeater 4ti pedals
    Formula Oro K24 brakes (Puro upgrade planned)
    Salsa Pro Moto Bar
    Easton carbon post (Thomson Masterpiece on the way)
    Selle Italia Flite Gel saddle
    DT 240 rear, Lefty Omega front laced to DT 4.2D with Sapim CX Ray 32 hole and DT tubeless kit
    Python Front/Crossmark UST rear (using up old tires for winter training!)

    So far I am really liking the bike. I had been on a medium Scalpel, but it was too long and hard for me to turn in tight singletrack, the Rush is able to track much better in the tight stuff and loose corners as I can get weight on the front end. The front end is very stiff, my team mate commented it made his Scalpel tubes look narrow!

    Kevin
    Hey Kevin,

    How do you like the Formula brakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Wombat
    I run a -5 degree 100mm stem, plus the flat bar it puts the bar almost level with the saddle. I dont have any issues with climbing on this bike, it could be because of the short front center, but a very slight weight shift forwards and I can climb steep granny gear grades which we have quite a few of in Arizona without the front wheel coming up.
    I do plan on racing the bike for a full slate of events next season. I am going to race the Arizona Endurance Series, 24 Hours in the Old Pueblo in the solo division, Payson Stampede 12 hour and probably take a trip up north for the E100 in Park City Utah. If I can make it work I would like to take on the Tour of Colorado with a team mate as well. So far with 2 4 hour back to back rides I am really liking the bike. I may make a few changes, but its good to go as is. For racing I will probably run a Ti cassette and smoother courses Stans up standard tires instead of UST. I was seriously considering the new Scalpel, but in the Carbon version only one bottle cage is a big minus for me at many events as its a lot faster to refill bottles, or pick up new ones at a gear drop. Kevin
    Sounds good, I see you won the endurance series last year. What was your ride for that?
    I bet you will like your new bike for the long hauls. You probably already have more time on yours than I put on mine as i am taking it easy for a few weeks - welllll mabey less time on the bike, but when I say " I'm goin' easy tonight " I may not go for a long ride but the Rush beckons me to ride fast. I and the Rush are one

    Is there no bottle cage under the down tube of the new Scalpel as with the Rush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuster_md
    Hey Kevin,

    How do you like the Formula brakes?
    I really like these, have tried Magura, Hope and Hayes and these are the best of the lot so far. Only downside is the resevoir that makes positioning the triggers a little finicky. Lots of power.
    When I can afford it I will go for the Puro's, weight saving is pretty small, but I like the gold!

    Kevin

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet
    Sounds good, I see you won the endurance series last year. What was your ride for that?
    I bet you will like your new bike for the long hauls. You probably already have more time on yours than I put on mine as i am taking it easy for a few weeks - welllll mabey less time on the bike, but when I say " I'm goin' easy tonight " I may not go for a long ride but the Rush beckons me to ride fast. I and the Rush are one

    Is there no bottle cage under the down tube of the new Scalpel as with the Rush?
    I rode an alloy Rush and Scalpel for the endurance series. The carbon Rush is replacing both those bikes.
    Only one bottle cage mount on the new carbon Scalpel although the alloy has two, but no SI cranks

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    this question is for the prophet or anyone who came off a prophet and switched to the carbon rush. what are the different things you liked and disliked of the 2 bikes. i too came off a prophet but i havent had a chance to ride my carbon rush yet...i am curious as what to expect...

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    You got a carbon rush? Sweet.

    On my Prophet: I liked the higher BB and slacker angles (I rode it in the FR mode all the time). It was super easy to bunny hop any obstacle in the trail. I didnt really like the weight, but its really not that heavy. Its a great all around bike. The only reason why I got rid of it in turn for the Rush is because I didnt need it and never rode it. I own a Judge and I can pedal that just fine.

    On my Rush: I dont really like the BB height, but honestly when I ride something I get used to that and make adjustments while riding so I dont hit it. I love how fast and responsive this bike is. It encourages out of the saddle climbing because there is no pedaling problems. So far I love the weight and the ride, I believe the carbon version gives an advantage over the alloy version, not just the weight difference.

    I could have left out a little but thats mostly how I feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Wombat
    I rode an alloy Rush and Scalpel for the endurance series. The carbon Rush is replacing both those bikes.
    Only one bottle cage mount on the new carbon Scalpel although the alloy has two, but no SI cranks
    Kevin
    I think you made the right choice. As for the SI cranks, they make more of a difference than I thought they would by far - a definite upgrade over any cranks in the past.

    Cdale is is hard to beat as far as competitive XC bikes anyway. It is hard to imagine what they will eventually replace this with. What I mean is that I cannot imagine any big jump in performance.....I'm sure those guys are already hard at work trying....

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    3 Months on and loving it.

    It's putting up with heaps of abuse and just keeps asking for more.

    3 sleeps and the rush and the rest of my cannondale family is hitting NorCal trails
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    anyone else made the switch? the carbon rush frame is that a protective cover covering the carbon or is it just paint? i heard that the visible carbon on the lefty is just a protective cover and that the real carbon is below it, smart but i wonder if the frame is the same....

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