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    The Cannondale I Want To See in 2013

    I'd like to see them build a 140mm travel, all carbon, super Rize. Use the Scalpel 29'er rear suspension, make it in 650b, and weighing no more than 21lbs.
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    I want a 14lbs hydraulic disc brake equipped SuperX with the geometry of a SuperSix... And I want it to be under 2000$.

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    i want a 29er carbon flash with pressfit bb30, 142x12.

    i also want the scalpel 29er to come in the ninja black that they unveiled it in...

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    hardtail:
    ax lightness stem
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    extralite hubs
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    tune speedneedle saddle
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    nice dream!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrl View Post
    hardtail:
    ax lightness stem
    ep steerer tube
    extralite hubs
    sapim spokes
    pop rims
    tune speedneedle saddle
    mcfk seatpost
    ax lightness handlebar
    sram xx rear and front derailleurs
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    new ultimate seatcollar
    hollowgram cranks & carbon ti chainrings


    nice dream!
    No need to wait for 2013, that's already possible, you just have to build it yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    I want a 14lbs hydraulic disc brake equipped SuperX with the geometry of a SuperSix... And I want it to be under 2000$.
    What's wrong with the stock geometry? And your discs are coming, but $2000 price points aren't.

    Anyway what mountain bike would you most like them to do next? I still think a SuperRize 140mm travel bike would be the logical gap filler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YB1 View Post
    I still think a SuperRize 140mm travel bike would be the logical gap filler.
    I agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post

    i also want the scalpel 29er to come in the ninja black that they unveiled it in...
    simpllier painting allover the range mat black,gun metal,grey......

    and another brake supplier just for the sake of change


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    A very simple wish :


    A 26" SS with BB30.
    Not even one in BadBoy category anymore ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fokof View Post
    A very simple wish :


    A 26" SS with BB30.
    Not even one in BadBoy category anymore ....
    You can make this out of ANY Flash, right? SO your wish was granted in 2010...unless you want adjustable chain tension from the factory.
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    140mm FS 29er, with a 140 29er Lefty. In aluminum, screw plastic bikes.

    Haven't bought a Cannondale in years, this is why.
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    140mm FS 29er, with a 140 29er Lefty. In aluminum, screw plastic bikes.

    Haven't bought a Cannondale in years, this is why.

    You want to choose the metal, Dan wants to choose the price. Ok, I want one made out of gold for $1000...
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    Quote Originally Posted by YB1 View Post
    You want to choose the metal, Dan wants to choose the price. Ok, I want one made out of gold for $1000...
    Gold? Not stiff enough to make bikes of...

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    Single speed Carbon Flash 29er with a longer ETT, but they won't do it....

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    People, single speed is not a kind of bike, its a drivetrain.
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    i read somewhere that they are bringing a short travel jekyll out next year... maybe that is your Super Rize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    i read somewhere that they are bringing a short travel jekyll out next year... maybe that is your Super Rize?

    I guess the Scalpel 29'er rear suspension design is a way to get a 130-140 cm travel bike down to the weight I'd want to see, which is 9kg/20lbs. I can't see how you could do that with "Jekyll" technology.

    They need to build this thing, Please Mr. Denk. And please leave enough room in those stays for my beloved 650b Racing Ralph. Given the modular nature of the Scalpel 29'er rear suspension maybe a super Rize bike could be offered in 26" AND 650b flavors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YB1 View Post
    People, single speed is not a kind of bike, its a drivetrain.
    But it needs a certain type of frame to work correctly. I tried it with a regular Flash this year and it didn't cut the mustard.

    No more 'dales for me until they bring out a dedicated carbon single speed frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by driver bob View Post
    But it needs a certain type of frame to work correctly.
    "Needs" might be a bit off, the White Eno Eccentric works great for any frame.
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YB1 View Post
    I guess the Scalpel 29'er rear suspension design is a way to get a 130-140 cm travel bike down to the weight I'd want to see, which is 9kg/20lbs. I can't see how you could do that with "Jekyll" technology.

    They need to build this thing, Please Mr. Denk. And please leave enough room in those stays for my beloved 650b Racing Ralph. Given the modular nature of the Scalpel 29'er rear suspension maybe a super Rize bike could be offered in 26" AND 650b flavors.
    i cant wait to try out the scalpel with the 650b wheels... i got my 29er flash up and running again and loved how it rolled over everything. the scalpel could prove to be the weapon of choice! because im a bike whore, i would have bought the ninja black 29er scalpel without riding it as i think its one of the sexiest bikes ive seen... but the production colours that are floating on the net just arent doing it for me...

    back on topic... im surprised that cdale didnt do a quick redesign of the flash 29er carbon to align some of the technologies between it and the scalpel. i think we'll see a continued evolution of the current models... the only "in between" model right now is the rz120 which sounds like its being replaced by this short travel jekyll i read about.

    would love to see a hydraulic lockout on the rear shock of my scalpel that is controlled by the same lockout of the lefty...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    would love to see a hydraulic lockout on the rear shock of my scalpel that is controlled by the same lockout of the lefty...
    That's in the works. Rock Shox sponsored athletes are using a Xloc equiped rear shocks. Current prototypes use a separate Xloc lever for the front and rear but, logically, a single lever locking both should be easily done and very logical to me.

    The Flash will probably eventually get PF30 and the same dropout style as the new 29er Scalpel but redoing the molds and the whol production and everything just for that, they will probably just do it once they change other features of the frame as well.

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    I don't think the Scalpel 80 really needs a locking rear shock. Not saying you couldn't see ANY benefit using one, just that set to a proper sag the rear suspension seems pretty progressive and the only time you can bottom it is if you air it out or hit something unexpected like a large rock. I think of the Scalpel as the ultimate long travel, soft tail. It retains all the positive traits of your typical XCO racing hardtail with just that little bit of plush added in. Watching them raced on Freecaster that seems how they're used, the CFR guys just go a little harder into rock gardens and root sections when they're riding Scalpels.

    A 650'd Scalpel 80 just makes it that much more efficient and as others have noted the extra clearance with the higher bb is nice.

    Now a super Rize with Scalpel 29'er type rear suspension would be perfect for a locking rear shock. The 130-140mm travel bike is what I'd like to be riding, I'm just not willing to give up more than a miniscule amount of the efficiency of my race bike even though I don't race. I don't want a Spark LT, I don't want a FSR Swork-Stumpy. Only Cannondale can make this bike at 9kg./20lbs. One last suggestion for Herr Denk...make S and the M in 26" , but make L's and XL's in 650b.
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    I want to see a lefty with V brake mounts :P
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    The Cannondale I Want To See in 2013.....

    .....is Handmade in the USA again.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdalemaniac View Post
    .....is Handmade in the USA again.....
    Yeah and with a 300cc two-stroke, two Lefties ('cept one would be a Rightie), and V-brakes-3sets! And all wheel drive of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YB1 View Post
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    Yeah and with a 300cc two-stroke, two Lefties ('cept one would be a Rightie), and V-brakes-3sets! And all wheel drive of course.
    Yeah, that sounds about right!
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    Can I just have a Prophet, but with iscg05 mounts and a maxle back end?

    No too hard surely?

    Pleeeaaase?

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    I want carbon prophet with BB30 and lefty, frame sizing like rize. all caples hide inside frame. Seatpost bigger than 27,2.

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    Pressfit 30, made in USA, more accesible tools, tubeless wheels default for mid to high range

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    i would like to see a Jekyll with a lefty - the lefty should have travel management. Just like the Simon project - it should be mechanical ...
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    what about something like a lefty n the frame...just one leg(on the right of course) cassete and disc rotor on the same right side... that would be cool


    i am guessing 750grs. flash frame!!!
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    I would like to see the high end Flash frames come with different color/build options. Sorta like the road line. A Team Flash with XX, Mavic, etc, etc... whatever the Team riders use in the current Team colors and then the same frame but with full XTR and a different, less "team" oriented paint job. A 26" Flash with XTR and the 29" Flash basic black and white colors would be perfect.
    and the top of the line Super X should come with Hollowgram cranks. WTF happened for 2012?

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    rz140 29er, hand made in the usa with flat black paint

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    I want Jekyll 29er and steel 29er !!!!!!!!!! or in 650b too

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    Quote Originally Posted by xluossa View Post
    I want carbon prophet with BB30 and lefty, frame sizing like rize. all caples hide inside frame. Seatpost bigger than 27,2.
    Ditto, only then will I buy another Cannondale.
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    better colors and graphics for any/all

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    A Prophet with a 160 travel lefty and a one right sided rear with a Rolhoff back internal hub gears with that new dyad pull shock. Make it with a 29 wheel in front and a 26 in the back. I think this would be the ultimate AM. Oh yes - the frame would be out of Canadian steel made in Hamilton Ontario Canada.

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    "Made in Canada"... I wonder how many of the made in USA zealots would be appeased by that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YB1 View Post
    "Made in Canada"... I wonder how many of the made in USA zealots would be appeased by that?
    It would work for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YB1 View Post
    "Made in Canada"... I wonder how many of the made in USA zealots would be appeased by that?
    Last time I checked Canada was neither a communist country, nor do they crap on human rights....
    Made in Canada would actually be 110% ok for me....
    Just like Raceface made in Canada in my book stands for quality.
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    Hummm, reminds me of Lib Tech snowboards. When George Bush became president, they stopped writing 'Handmade in USA' on their boards, replacing it with 'Handmade near Canada'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    Hummm, reminds me of Lib Tech snowboards. When George Bush became president, they stopped writing 'Handmade in USA' on their boards, replacing it with 'Handmade near Canada'...
    OUCH! I live in PA. Other side of the state from Bedford but it still felt like mine was made in my back yard.

    On topic: I also want better graphics and color schemes. I keep looking at the Jekyll frames and wanting one based on spec but the colors are totally off for me. Give me one painted like the 2007 caffeine f3 alt color (this color. yes that one's mine) or something similar. I liked the old schemes they had. The 2 tone stripes are ok but only if you like the 2 colors. I prefer something a bit more subtle.

    Otherwise I would like to see a return to the prophet style bike. A nice 160mm AM rig designed to ridden a bit heavier than the Jekylls. Not really a fan of the Scott style pull shocks. Too proprietary.

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    The short travel jekyll will satisfy my needs for a "more than marathon/less than AM" bike, but it will need to have a lefty to completely sell me. Basically i want a carbon rz140 with the more active rear suspension of the jekyll, built a bit lighter, that would be PERFECT.

    And yeah, hopefully the new season colours will kick in, because the current jekyll is a bit of a vomit-looking mess.

    Edit: Ah, just saw this in the jekyll thread. Cannondale needs to sell me this bike:



    Edit 2: I'd also really like for lefties to go back to manitou damping, the shimstack ABS+ is awesome, especially for XC/trail/AM flexibility.
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    Cannondale Jekyll 29er is what we'll see - Promise. I hope if doesn't have a lefty because most people in that market don't believe in lefty's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrl View Post
    what about something like a lefty n the frame...just one leg(on the right of course) cassete and disc rotor on the same right side... that would be cool
    That would be cool. I bet they've been looking at it. I've seen a few concept bike designs like this. It must be quite hard to get the lateral stiffness you'd want in a thin single sided stay though....

    I think they could stand to go a bit more badass with the paint jobs..the 29er scalpel is nice but everyone *really* liked that black prototype one didn't they? and I think they only made 100 of those to sell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mud0shark View Post
    I hope if doesn't have a lefty because most people in that market don't believe in lefty's.
    So, they prefer Unicorns, or was it the Easter Bunny?
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    Lefty with a 40 or 50 mm steam

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    Jekyll with a Lefty in a 26r. Thats what I want. Never mind the trendies - they can pay LOL! They always do!

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    I would like a disc Super X with the new Red in Sept of 2012. Anyone think they'll release a disc bike this year?

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