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    Cannondale 2009

    Any news on the 09's? Specificly the Scalpel, Taurine & any 29'r?

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    Only thing I have heard for sure is that we can expect price increases across the board after a few years of prices going down. There is supposed to be a rep product meeting coming up, so more info about 08 will be out.
    I know on the road front we can expect to see a sub 1000g Super Six SL, new Synapse design, and they will have a CAAD9 entry level down into the 800 dollar range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Wombat
    Only thing I have heard for sure is that we can expect price increases
    Well, in Europe, the Early intro models (e.g. the 2009 Rush models) are a lot cheaper (you can get a 2009 Rush 1 Early Intro for only 100 EUR more than a 2008 Rush 2...

    Has everything to do with the currency exchange rates (strong EUR) IMO.

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    Price increases should hit most brands due to increased material costs and shipping costs (you know, the gas thing, not only to ship bikes once they are built but shipping parts/components, shipping raw materials...).

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    Its not just Cannondale raising prices in the US, we are seeing prices go up for components and pretty much everything from distributors. For example the Scalpel 2 which was a 5K bike will now be closer to 5 1/2K and the Scalpel team will go up about 500 dollars. So dont expect shops to discount 08 inventory too much.

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    BB30 29er?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Wombat
    Its not just Cannondale raising prices in the US, we are seeing prices go up for components and pretty much everything from distributors. For example the Scalpel 2 which was a 5K bike will now be closer to 5 1/2K and the Scalpel team will go up about 500 dollars. So dont expect shops to discount 08 inventory too much.

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    At least is not as bad as Specialized. I read a post today that their new S-works Epic is going to be around $9,400 or something around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiar577
    At least is not as bad as Specialized. I read a post today that their new S-works Epic is going to be around $9,400 or something around.
    I have heard Specialized will have an average of 20% increase for 2009!
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    mtb sistem six?

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    6-Works

    Wow! $9,400 + Tax. I think this is getting out of hand! Don't get me wrong, I like to see new designs & technology, but at what price? $10k for a bike? I think we need a reality check! Unless there is something that is totaly diff, I don't think many people will buy NEW bikes, but rather opt for an older bike/frame & customise to there budget? I beleive the new Epic will de-value the old design epic. There will be alot of old epics going for cheap?
    I was wondering if Cannondale was coming out with something new before looking at the used market? I think i'm seeing a trend that is not good for New buyers.

    What ever happened to that 6-Works bike??????
    There should be a somewhat custom pgm with a few opt's such as Frame colour/ Groupo set/ Fork/Wheels???

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarsellone
    Wow! $9,400 + Tax. I think this is getting out of hand! Don't get me wrong, I like to see new designs & technology, but at what price? $10k for a bike? I think we need a reality check! Unless there is something that is totaly diff, I don't think many people will buy NEW bikes, but rather opt for an older bike/frame & customise to there budget? I beleive the new Epic will de-value the old design epic. There will be alot of old epics going for cheap?
    I was wondering if Cannondale was coming out with something new before looking at the used market? I think i'm seeing a trend that is not good for New buyers.
    Well you don’t have to get the S-works, or even better don’t buy Specialized.

    I’m going to tell you a little secret, the only thing that’s going down in value is my ****ing house!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168


    I’m going to tell you a little secret, the only thing that’s going down in value is my ****ing house!
    No secret there its the same all over the UK. Whilst production costs are going up peoples ability to pay is not keeping pace here. Its already sale time on 2008 bikes here eg 20% off an '08 F6 disc! If the Chinese ever start hanging onto the stuff they make for themselves we'll all have to start walking!

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    I went by a brand-x bike demo last weekend on my carbon rush and the rep stated that he had seen a new carbon rush recently at a bike show and that the rear swingarm (chainstay/seatstay) was made of carbon fiber but they have not been released to the public because of problems with the steel inserts coming loose? Any idea if this info is accurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by murphyd
    BB30 29er?
    unofficially, yes. there are a few out there already. stay tuned to the word leaking from dealer meetings happening this week in park city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy78
    mtb sistem six?
    check out the 2008 catalog: there's a bike in there called 'scalpel'. They make it in carbon too. With a System Six front triangle

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    today in italy on GARDA lake there is a 2009 models presentation

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliflap
    today in italy on GARDA lake there is a 2009 models presentation
    Well, Eliflap, then you have the moral duty to go over there, take pictures, and post them here!!!

    We count on you!

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    Rush SL??

    The 2009 Early Intro models feature a Rush Carbon SL frame for the lefty equiped models and a 'normal' Rush Carbon frame for the non-lefty models. Is there any difference in the frames between the 2 or is 'SL' note only used to point out the Lefty models. The frames seem identical to me.

    http://www.probike.be/article.php3?id_article=418

    I wonder if they will keep the Rush as is for 2009, or that we may seem something new. Both the Scalpel and Prophet (in a sence) have been followed by a hinged single-pivot design. I can imagine something like the current Rush front triangle combined with a Rize rear. Maye Eliflap can shed some more light on this wiht pictures of the new 2009 models.

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    Andrea. Send us a report & if possible some pic's!
    Thanks in advance

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    is the rush carbon SL frame lighter than the 2008 model? i guess it's composed of a lighter carbon fiber material or composite that is why the SL Carbon 1 is already expensive with compared to the rush carbon team replica 2008 where the parts are top of the line. The SL carbon are just equipped with avid juicy 5's and shimano xt's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiar577
    At least is not as bad as Specialized. I read a post today that their new S-works Epic is going to be around $9,400 or something around.
    Prices seem to be getting totally ridiculous. When you can walk into a motorcycle dealer and get a brand new Ducati for less than a bicycle, there's something wrong. And I know all about economies of scale, which is why I picked a niche manufacturer compared to Honda, Yamaha, etc. Hell, I have an MV Agusta that didn't cost much more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rex.daquil
    is the rush carbon SL frame lighter than the 2008 model? i guess it's composed of a lighter carbon fiber material or composite
    jips. that's what my LBS confirmed me!

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    Maybe the frame is lighter than last year but I'd say the SL designation is because of the carbon or Lefty forks. It doesn't make sense to produce 2 different carbon frames of the same model. I don't think bean counters would like it.

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    Rush Frames

    Any word on whether or not the rear suspension section on the new Rushes will be made of CF? I was told by another bike mfr rep that Cannondale has a CF rear section. Who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiar577
    Maybe the frame is lighter than last year but I'd say the SL designation is because of the carbon or Lefty forks. It doesn't make sense to produce 2 different carbon frames of the same model. I don't think bean counters would like it.
    Still, thats the case: the SL frame is said to use a different sort of carbon and construction that makes the frame 100 gr lighter

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    29"er news

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    Many pictures from the 2009 european range here.


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    Thanks Dan!
    By the way. In that one pic with the 09 Scalpel's, is one of those a 29'er???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Many pictures from the 2009 european range here.

    Oh no! Its like unveiling the moto and rize all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan1104
    Oh no! Its like unveiling the moto and rize all over again.
    Well, the wait isn't as long, just click to see the bikes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Many pictures from the 2009 european range here

    Wow......

    Fell in love with that white commuter.What is it called a "Lefty/Fatty" ? A "Fat Lefty" ?

    I just hope they get back to their senses and have a 26" single speed in the catalogue......
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    No judge/perp on the 2009 european presentation?
    My fleet:
    System six 08
    Moto 1 08
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    Had R700 (05)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotel12
    No judge/perp on the 2009 european presentation?
    Or Prophet, I was told it would run for at least 09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarsellone
    Thanks Dan!
    By the way. In that one pic with the 09 Scalpel's, is one of those a 29'er???
    Looks like a 26" to me...

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    So no Scalpel 29'er? It was hard to tell..any full susp 29'er??

    Awesome pics, though. Thank you for posting!

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    great...
    can't wait to see some bigger pictures of those models.
    That Scalpel in White, black and red is so delicious...
    My wallet is already in pain :-D

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    There is a new range of hardtail 29'ers with some really cool retro graphics reminisk of Frigidaire...
    Theres a new Lefty with one piece lower, which take us back to the single titanium casting. This lower is mix in concept of that ti lower and the current Aluminium lower. No news on changes to the damping cartridges yet.

    Sclapel is unchanged since they made a running change on the assembly line.
    Rush SL is unchanged, just new colours as can be seen in pics above.

    Seems biggest news is the 29er range and the new Lefty.

    I want that SIX road bike though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad
    There is a new range of hardtail 29'ers with some really cool retro graphics reminisk of Frigidaire...
    Hideous. I hope they bring out a raw option.

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    The new Lefty SL drops around 100 grams with the new lower but also because it doesn't have a negative spring, the internals are Rock Shox with something along the lines of dual air (air main spring, air negative spring)...

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    Dan is the SuperSix high modular frame still handmade in the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    The new Lefty SL drops around 100 grams with the new lower but also because it doesn't have a negative spring, the internals are Rock Shox with something along the lines of dual air (air main spring, air negative spring)...
    Will it be possible to convert an older SL to the new version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiar577
    Will it be possible to convert an older SL to the new version?
    Let's keep our fingers crossed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventuregs
    Dan is the SuperSix high modular frame still handmade in the USA?
    Yes it is. This time without steps in the seat tube as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad ronald
    Yes it is. This time without steps in the seat tube as well!

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    Thanks. Iam glad to hear this! So the SystemSix is being replaced with the Six? It looks like an amazing bike the Six, but I will stick to the SuperSix. Will have to trade my current SuperSix for the new one. The white SuperSix looks awesome!!

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    The new Super Six apparently lost a whopping 140 grams!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiar577
    Will it be possible to convert an older SL to the new version?
    Too soon to tell really...

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    oh baby!


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    so nothing on the new carbon rear swing arm for the Rush?

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    there is no carbon swing arm for the rush................not for 2009 anyway. Check midyear updates

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    The white SuperSix is looking stunning!! What is the other colour options available in the SuperSix for 2009?

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