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    Anyone know when the 2005 Cannondales will be releasing?

    I am interested in picking up a Cannondale cyclocross bike and don't want to get an 2004 if the 05 are comming out soon.

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    I think this is what we all are waiting for. The prophet, a model between the Gemini and Jekyll. still waiting for the one between the Jekyll and the Scalpel


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoen
    I think this is what we all are waiting for. The prophet, a model between the Gemini and Jekyll. still waiting for the one between the Jekyll and the Scalpel

    wow, where did you find that picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMan
    I am interested in picking up a Cannondale cyclocross bike and don't want to get an 2004 if the 05 are comming out soon.

    KMan
    I hear that they are coming out in October and the larger Cannondale dealers may have them as early as September. They are going to replace the Jekyll. My LBS (they were able to ride one) said that the bike is a little lighter than the Jekyll and has a different geometry. The bike has a longer top tube, so that it is more comfortable on longer rides.

    It kind of reminds me of a mix between the Gemini and the Yeti 575.

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    I dont like that. It been done before.

    Thats just a Yeti. No offence to Yeti as they make good bikes. But couldnt Cannondale come up with something different. If I wanted that type of bike I would buy a Yeti FS.

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    Its supposed to replace the jekyll? hrmmph


    Quote Originally Posted by Gungadin
    I hear that they are coming out in October and the larger Cannondale dealers may have them as early as September. They are going to replace the Jekyll. My LBS (they were able to ride one) said that the bike is a little lighter than the Jekyll and has a different geometry. The bike has a longer top tube, so that it is more comfortable on longer rides.

    It kind of reminds me of a mix between the Gemini and the Yeti 575.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watjac
    Its supposed to replace the jekyll? hrmmph
    I have received mixed information. Some say that it will be a new line in between the Gemini and the Jekyll- liken onto the Santa Cruz Heckler and others say that it will replace the Jekyll as Cannondale's new All Mountain line.

    According to the those who have ridden it, it is very plush and the geometry is really nice, but they say that it is a different animal than the Jekyll.

    Considering the Jekyll's popularity and its recent favorable reviews in What Mountain Bike and MBA, it would be realy odd for Cannondale to totally discontinue the Jekyll.

    Bottom line- the Jekyll still and has always kicked butt despite all the recent innovations.

    Essentialy, it looks like Cannondale took a Yeti 575 and stretched out its compact cokpit. The 575 is a really nice bike and I am sure this will be a sweet ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gungadin
    wow, where did you find that picture?

    Does anyone know what crankset that is on the Prophet? & is that a carbon lefty max?
    Awesome looking machine!!!

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    Here you can find some more pictures: http://www.rijwielpaleis.nl/ go to Hot news

    Sorry the site is in Dutch

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    this one takes you directly to the picture page: http://www.rijwielpaleis.nl/activite...phet/index.htm

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    I like it, but

    I like the look of the bike and the fork, the fact that it's light sounds good, but the head angle looks really relaxed , like a gemini. Or is it just an illusion from the lefty or the X'd tubing?

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    Ha I can see some things dont change.

    Look at the sick job on this http://www.rijwielpaleis.nl/activite...prophet-05.htm

    Although the siemans team version in that previous link looks sweet.

    SRAM setups. Will cannondale be dropping Shimano this year then??

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    Can't you ever be positive, color preference is relative to the person, and those bikes may be prototypes so those bikes may not be the final colors chosen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jm03
    Can't you ever be positive, color preference is relative to the person, and those bikes may be prototypes so those bikes may not be the final colors chosen.
    That ones got jm03 written all over it lol.

    Course I can be positive but in the wake of that no. Cannodale will never learn. They put all their effort into the top end bikes. But they seem to sell very little of them.

    If this bike is to be a winner they need to do much better than that. Its a Yeti clone. The Yeti version far better.

    And the scalpel is an old specialized FSR design.

    We are going around in cirlces here.

    Yet they say they strive on inivation.

    hhhmmmmm

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    If I'm not mistaken, the Cannondale is a single pivot design. The Yeti is multipivot.
    And I love the green one.

    I prefer to talk after a test ride. Judging a bike because the color scheme is something ridicolous.




    Quote Originally Posted by KleinAttitude
    That ones got jm03 written all over it lol.

    Course I can be positive but in the wake of that no. Cannodale will never learn. They put all their effort into the top end bikes. But they seem to sell very little of them.

    If this bike is to be a winner they need to do much better than that. Its a Yeti clone. The Yeti version far better.

    And the scalpel is an old specialized FSR design.

    We are going around in cirlces here.

    Yet they say they strive on inivation.

    hhhmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayac
    If I'm not mistaken, the Cannondale is a single pivot design. The Yeti is multipivot.
    And I love the green one.

    I prefer to talk after a test ride. Judging a bike because the color scheme is something ridicolous.
    The Yeti 575 is a single pivot connected a Knuckle Joint, just like the Prophet.

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    I don't see any other pivot point like on the 575? Or am i missing it? I assume you mean that little carbon piece thats on the 575, but i don't see anything like that on the cannondale.

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    The little carbon piece in the Yeti is a pivot point, so it has two pivot points. Obviously, the Cannondale is not the same design.

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    well

    i have been ready to get a new bike for a little while now, and have considered turning my jekll in for a turner 5-spot. Looks like i will be holding off for a while. Good thing too cause i was never crazy about giving up my lefty! better start saving my pennies
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    Carbon Max?

    I'm hoping that the bike doesn't replace the Jekyll, a bike l love. Bigger news, that no one seems to have noticed is that the silver bike pictured seems to have a carbon lefty max! Now <i>that</i> would be cool.

    -James

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    Thats because its a team issue.

    No one has answered my question!!!!

    Have cannondale dropped XTR in favour or XRAM?? X-0

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    sram

    Have cannondale dropped XTR in favour or XRAM?? X-0
    i don't know, but i hope so
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    Quote Originally Posted by KleinAttitude
    Thats because its a team issue.

    No one has answered my question!!!!

    Have cannondale dropped XTR in favour or XRAM?? X-0
    Nope, not a team issue. Guess again. What is wrong with xtr? X-0 is every bit as expensive, though it works very, very well.

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    SPV carbon Lefty.

    Quote Originally Posted by James@GearReview
    I'm hoping that the bike doesn't replace the Jekyll, a bike l love. Bigger news, that no one seems to have noticed is that the silver bike pictured seems to have a carbon lefty max! Now <i>that</i> would be cool.

    -James
    Did you see the small SPV sticker below the top crown?
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    New question here.

    How can it look just like a Yeti 575 when it is a lot closer to just being a lighter version of the Gemini, just like the Superlight was a lighter version of the Heckler..
    If anything it may look a bit more like the Klein, or the Ventana x5.
    Yeah the green isn't the nicest colour going around but it doesn't change how the bike will ride.
    At least there are new Cannondale mtbs coming out in 05, not like Klein who seem to be getting dropped from mtb altogether and just producing roadbikes. Will miss those awesome paint jobs!

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    I know and thats another story. Trek

    They produce rubbish and ruin other decent makes.I have the last of the real Kleins. Its a shame as I dont want to sell it. Its been an awesome bike.

    And I know I will never find smoother welds nor a better paint job again.

    I just pray Trek go under. ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbykr
    i have been ready to get a new bike for a little while now, and have considered turning my jekll in for a turner 5-spot. Looks like i will be holding off for a while. Good thing too cause i was never crazy about giving up my lefty! better start saving my pennies

    I was thinking the exact same thing! I have a 2002 Jekyll 1000 and was just about to buy the spot. This prophet looks sweet though. I'm going to wait and see how they ride. I haven't ridden the lefty max. Is it as plush as a fox vanilla 125 or a bomber?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James@GearReview
    Nope, not a team issue. Guess again. What is wrong with xtr? X-0 is every bit as expensive, though it works very, very well.

    -James
    And a SRAM setup saves weight, lets you use whatever brakes you want... Personnally, I like both systems so I'm sure to find a model that fits my needs.


    This year, Siemens-Cannondale runs SRAM derailleurs and shifters, Magura brakes and Crank Bros pedals... Will it make its way on a production model? I don't know, maybe on the 2005 team replicas...

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    They wanted to take £3200 - £4500 for the team models this year. But couldnt even bother to throw some pedals in.

    Makes me laugh. You spend all this money and have to pay extra just to ride the bike.

    So dont hold your breath on the Crank Bros pedal issue.

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    From what I have been told they will be keeping the higher end Jykells around. This is more in between the Jykell and the Gemini. Looks awesome!!

    I think most of what we are seeing Spec and Color wise are the European designs. What comes out here in the states is always different.

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    Hope not tom. I thought that Green Phrophet had USA bound on it.

    The nice silver one said UK

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    Green will be available in the US, along with the silver / black tint color. The only difference between Europe and US will be spec.

    -Ron

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    Lefty Max SPV

    Quote Originally Posted by damion
    Did you see the small SPV sticker below the top crown?
    That got me excited as much, if not more, than the new bike itself... I'm wondering a few things about that fork: 140mm, 3.8lbs, Carbon, SPV, is it an air fork or a spring fork like the Lefty Max? The top seems to have the damping dial like the Max, no air valve. I'd be surprised if it was an air fork (but at 3.8 lbs?) which is good I guess, I never had a spring fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    That got me excited as much, if not more, than the new bike itself... I'm wondering a few things about that fork: 140mm, 3.8lbs, Carbon, SPV, is it an air fork or a spring fork like the Lefty Max? The top seems to have the damping dial like the Max, no air valve. I'd be surprised if it was an air fork (but at 3.8 lbs?) which is good I guess, I never had a spring fork.

    My LBS told me this was an air fork with the SPV. It would have to be coming in at 3.8lbs. I've ridden a lefty max and the coil is really nice. I'm hoping this air fork is as plush??????? It seems like the SPV technology is better for the big hits and not for the small bumps. Has anyone ridden an Air Front Fork with the SPV that would like to comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnut
    My LBS told me this was an air fork with the SPV. It would have to be coming in at 3.8lbs. I've ridden a lefty max and the coil is really nice. I'm hoping this air fork is as plush??????? It seems like the SPV technology is better for the big hits and not for the small bumps. Has anyone ridden an Air Front Fork with the SPV that would like to comment.
    I have a Minute 2 130mm, very plush and smooth for an air fork. I've been riding it since spring and frankly, I think it performs very well on all size of impacts, just needs to be properly setup. More pressure in the SPV means a harsher ride on small bumps, you just need to find the sweet spot between no BOB vs. smooth ride. Of course, if you stand up and mash on the pedals, it will move but not to a point where it's too much of a problem. It's not a fork made to sprint in XC races anyway...

    A 140mm SPV air carbon Lefty at 3.8 lbs seems to be the perfect All-around trail fork for me, I planned to keep my Cake for a while but I might just get rid of it this winter to go back to my old love affair: Cannondale...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnut
    My LBS told me this was an air fork with the SPV. It would have to be coming in at 3.8lbs. I've ridden a lefty max and the coil is really nice. I'm hoping this air fork is as plush??????? It seems like the SPV technology is better for the big hits and not for the small bumps. Has anyone ridden an Air Front Fork with the SPV that would like to comment.
    Nope it's all coil all the time. Although you will have a ti or steel option.

    The only air shocks are the shorter travel lefty's and fatty's. Maybe sometime in the future we'll see an air max, but not right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad ronald
    Nope it's all coil all the time. Although you will have a ti or steel option.

    The only air shocks are the shorter travel lefty's and fatty's. Maybe sometime in the future we'll see an air max, but not right now.

    -Ron
    Isn't coil smoother, plusher than air anyway? The big advantage of air forks is the weight, but at 3.8 lbs for a 140mm fork, I'll take coil anyday.

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    http://www.planetcycle.com/prophet.html

    Here's a website with a reveiw of the Prophet.

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    As stated, it's the same article as in Singletrack...
    click here.

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