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    Any 2008 Info?

    Is there any information out on 2008 bikes yet? I've seen the stuff on the scalple but nothing else
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    At Mt.Snow yesterday, I got to speak with a cool C'dale fellow. Here is what I remember.

    The DLR2s will have Fox RLC damping.
    Carbon and Alu. (w/carbon rear triangle) 2008 Scalpels ....being called the Scalpel.
    A slacker head angle on the new Scalpel. I got to lift it up and it was quite light.
    No travel adj. Lefty for the Prophet. They tried it last year but it had too many bugs.
    The Prophet will remain basically unchanged.

    I dunno. If I remember anything else I'll post it. I'm sure everything I just said has been posted in other threads, but it's too hard to try and search for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideFaster
    At Mt.Snow yesterday, I got to speak with a cool C'dale fellow. Here is what I remember.

    The DLR2s will have Fox RLC damping.
    Carbon and Alu. (w/carbon rear triangle) 2008 Scalpels ....being called the Scalpel.
    A slacker head angle on the new Scalpel. I got to lift it up and it was quite light.
    No travel adj. Lefty for the Prophet. They tried it last year but it had too many bugs.
    The Prophet will remain basically unchanged.

    I dunno. If I remember anything else I'll post it. I'm sure everything I just said has been posted in other threads, but it's too hard to try and search for.
    I was looking around and apparently last year (2006) they released information about the whole line up a lot earlier than July... So I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been more news, yet... Kind of disappointing really...

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    DLR2 leftys with Fox RLC dampening!!

    OH SNAP!!!

    I'm officially buying a 2008 rush instead of a 2007.
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    My guess would be that lower-end C'dales with Lefties will get either a DLR2 like this year or a Fox R, RL etc...and work their way up to RLC. Although, I have no actual reason to believe this.

    The guy also said something about the SI cranks dropping more weight.
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    Yep! The SI Hollowgram SL crankset is lighter by 60grams... and apparently just as stiff! The road version comes standard with ceramic bearings, not sure about the mountain version though.

    The new Scalpel will be available in a very limited edition. The Dan Gerous Signature bike will have just a matte clearcoat on the carbon frame to save even more weight and will have the Hollogram SL crankset back with the shorter spindle and the 2x9 spider and rings.... A man can dream!

    Seriously, a slacker head angle? The Scalpel's 70 head angle is already considered quite slack in XC race bike standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Yep! The SI Hollowgram SL crankset is lighter by 60grams... and apparently just as stiff! The road version comes standard with ceramic bearings, not sure about the mountain version though.

    The new Scalpel will be available in a very limited edition. The Dan Gerous Signature bike will have just a matte clearcoat on the carbon frame to save even more weight and will have the Hollogram SL crankset back with the shorter spindle and the 2x9 spider and rings.... A man can dream!

    Seriously, a slacker head angle? The Scalpel's 70 head angle is already considered quite slack in XC race bike standards.
    I thought I heard 60 grams, but was afraid to be wrong and get in trouble with you guys!
    With the head angle, the guys did not seem to know what it was. Originally the guy was saying 66, 67 ( ...I'm serious)...while he said earlier that the racers wanted a faster accelerating bike... . Obveously, they may not have been the best info source, but my guess would be 70-71.
    I demo'ed a 2006 Scalpel and it felt PERFECT for racing, I don't know why they would change it....and give it more travel. I doubt the sponsored racers will be getting use of all 90mm of travel when they have their suspension set at 10% sag. 67mm seemed like a good balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideFaster
    I thought I heard 60 grams, but was afraid to be wrong and get in trouble with you guys!
    With the head angle, the guys did not seem to know what it was. Originally the guy was saying 66, 67 ( ...I'm serious)...while he said earlier that the racers wanted a faster accelerating bike... . Obveously, they may not have been the best info source, but my guess would be 70-71.
    I demo'ed a 2006 Scalpel and it felt PERFECT for racing, I don't know why they would change it....and give it more travel. I doubt the sponsored racers will be getting use of all 90mm of travel when they have their suspension set at 10% sag. 67mm seemed like a good balance.
    66, 67? That's slacker than a Prophet in FR mode! No way! This guy was definitly not a good source of info. I'm expecting the geometry to stay close to the current 70 head angle...

    As for the added travel, maybe every racers don't need that much but nobody loses. The reason for short travel is that it's usually lighter and stiffer than a longer travel bike. If Cannondale managed to up the travel to 90mm but still drop weight and make a stiffer bike, even if you set the suspension to only use 67mm of the travel or even less, you still get a better bike! We all win.

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    One of the owners of my local cdale retailer went out last week to cdale usa and rode the new Scalpel. The first question I asked was about the head angle (because I rode a Rush once and couldn't stand the head angle). He said it felt the same as the current Scalpel. I asked him about carbon vs alum. and he said they would be all carbon and that he placed and order to get a couple to his shop. I told him to put my name on one. He also said they should be in in like 3-4 weeks. That is probably the biggest lie I've ever heard though. I noticed in some of those photos you all have been posting that they are using the SI crank SL's on some of them. Hey Cannondale, the cat is out of the bag! Go ahead and just post the new bike a parts picks on your website and stop this nonsense!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideFaster
    The DLR2s will have Fox RLC damping.
    Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I've never rode a bike with Fox RLC...
    On the other hand my Lefty SL rides so smooth it's hard for me to believe they can improve it!!! It feels perfect right now, but what do I know lol

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    I looked at the 2008 catalog a few days ago....

    Prophet MX line is gone

    No Prophet comes with a lefty

    08 Prophet 1 has much cheaper component spec, similar to the 07 Prophet 3Z (w/ the same fork)

    Rush Line looked very similar to 07 line, with component changes stated above

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    wow no Leftys on the Prophets - I wonder if that is cos they are too expensive or if they don't see them as heavy duty enough for the Prophet any more?

    Does that mean no coil leftys as I assume that the Rushs and the Scalpels will be Air Sprung.

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    No MX line? Wow, I thought that was one of the most versitile bikes out there.

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    Seriously?

    Is this a US catalog or a GB catalog?

    I only ask as it seems that the Lefty never really got used in GB / Europe on the Prophet anyways (except the 1), so it would make sense for it to be eliminated in the GB / Euro lines. In North Amerca? Does not compute...

    Also, I agree with NS-NV's statement on the Prophet MX. I have one (2007 MX2) and it smokes. If anything, I was hoping they would bump it to 160mm of travel to fill the gap between the Perp and the Prophet, not get rid of it. Look at the Cut; almost every single one of them rides one and uses that and the Chase as thier go to fun / jib / slope bikes.

    Shades of the Jekyll migration? Stopgap year while new product brews?

    Interesting...

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    JUdge is only available as a frame
    a perp will be available for 2200
    chase's will all have short stays, but there is only 2 models and a frameset
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    If the MXs are gone, hopefully C'dale replaces it with stg better. If not, that's too bad, especially considering MXs were the most rigid in terms of carving in Prophet line (lack of carving rigidity has been a problem with Prophets).

    Le Freak has a very good idea about increasing the Prophet MX rear wheel travel to 160 mm. This can be done with a 7.875" x 2.25" shock. I've done this (PUSH'ed RP23) and I have to say that with 150 mm travel fork and XC geometry mode (a must with 2.25" stroke shock in a Prophet) it rides very very well.
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    just back from the shop.

    no MX line and nothing to replace it, looked like a prophet spec'ed similair but no stout rearend.

    perps looked great.. silver, black and white. 2200$ one is spec'ed out ok!

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    Hmm, I'm speculating that Cannondales going back to the drawing board for the Prophets Leftys for the year.
    Possibly a mid season release on prophets with leftys?

    From a salesman standpoint though, the rush is aniliating the prophet in sales. So i guess its a logical move, if abit odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fooly_CoolyOo
    Hmm, I'm speculating that Cannondales going back to the drawing board for the Prophets Leftys for the year.
    Possibly a mid season release on prophets with leftys?

    From a salesman standpoint though, the rush is aniliating the prophet in sales. So i guess its a logical move, if abit odd.
    The prophet is mostly unchanged for 2008. The Rush replaced the prophet because it's a better bike for most of us. It is balaced and light (I have the 1000 version), has better suspension IMO, and the only two bad things about it are the low BB and the forward lean position (A bit too forward for me, but solved via a seat post and a shorter / higher stem).
    I think that c'dale will be developing a new trail bike for mid 08/ 09 - Prophet sales are really down at the moment... Probably why c'dale put the prophet in the MBA trail bike shootout, to get some more sales out of it. Unfortunately, the result was... not so good.

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    To those that have seen the '08 catalog:

    Will there be a lower-end model with the Caffeine frame offered? I was hoping to wait until after my last tri of the year (late Septemebr) to buy a bike, but if the '08 Caffeine frame won't be offered in a cheaper package I'd like to start looking for a deal now on the '07's before they sell out.

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    How did the Prophet do in the shootout?
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    2008 release dates etc

    I contacted Cdale directly and was told that the 2008 Product line will be available on Cannondale.com in September (Same date for Catalogs from Dealers)

    They also mentioned a "tentative" roll out date of late August, for the Prophet.

    I can't wait...


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    3 Perps, 4 Prophets, No MXs, Badboy w/ Rohloff, a whole lot of Scalpels and Rushes, feminine Scalpel...etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideFaster
    Don't ask me how I know this.
    Shoot, you're dying to tell us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Shoot, you're dying to tell us!
    I did some very bad things to gain access to their 2008 cataloug!

    Okay, okay...all I did was register my Rush and while doing so, they give you the option of registering a 2008 bike by a drop down menu. I remember that there were two Scalpels offered in alu. and the rest were full carbon. Sadly, they did not have pics. or a spec. table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideFaster
    I did some very bad things to gain access to their 2008 cataloug!

    Okay, okay...all I did was register my Rush and while doing so, they give you the option of registering a 2008 bike by a drop down menu. I remember that there were two Scalpels offered in alu. and the rest were full carbon. Sadly, they did not have pics. or a spec. table.
    Looking at that list gives much more info:

    How about a 130 Trail Carbon?
    A Big Mountain 160 Carbon?
    Hooligan?

    Hummm... here's the complete list (and it's a long one!):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtvet
    How did the Prophet do in the shootout?
    Not good (5/6). But they said that it should have been the rush in the test, not the prophet. Also it was the 5 model. The 800 (similar to current 4) took 3rd in the 2005 test.

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    I know the color for the 2008 aluminum Rush purchased just as a frame will be the BBQ Matte Black. I know it's not a very significant piece of info, but since I blew it by waiting too long to order the 2007 frame now I'm waiting to order the 2008.

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    These tests doesn't mean much, the Prophet won bike of the year in another magazine so... One guy who tests it might like it, another might not, no bike is perfect for everyone and these guys are just like us, they have personal preferences and are biased too...

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    130 trail CARBON?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy78
    130 trail CARBON?
    Yes... and 160 Big mountain Carbon...
    Probably the MX replacement...

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    Way to go research team! I'm selling a bunch of stuff to make room for and finance one of these new carbon Scalpels. Should I get it right when it comes out or wait for them to work out some production issues? I don't think I've ever been so interested in a new bike coming out. Of course I've never seen so much of a bike before it was available before either. Anybody need a twice used speed carbon SL? P.M. me if interested.

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    2008 Prophet/Lefty Max

    I don't know if this has already been said in another forum, but the Lefty Max is no more. 2008 Prophets have standard sliders from RockShox and Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Yes... and 160 Big mountain Carbon...
    Probably the MX replacement...
    What on earth is that and where can i find pictures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fooly_CoolyOo
    What on earth is that and where can i find pictures?
    Waiting is hardest part...

    My guess is the 160 Big Mountain line (carbon and alloy models) is the Prophet MX line replacement... aggressive trail bike with 160mm of travel... maybe? And the 130 Trail line (carbon and alloy models too) would replace the regular Prophets as lighter trailbikes with 130mm of travel... The Prophet line stays unchanged as a less expensive options for 2008 and are then phased out. I'm just guessing here but it would make sense. I'm just hoping the Lefty Max doesn't dissapear...

    No pictures yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy78
    130 trail CARBON?


    NOW you got my attention. Where did you get this info? If there's a 130 Trail Carbon and a 160 Big Mountain Carbon, where did the Prophet go in between? Sounds like they will end the Prophet line this year... Just like they do with every bike when a new model comes... run for one more year and then, bye. I'm pretty curious, though. I think it's the first time they lower the travel from a last year's model. Since the Jeckyl it was always a travel increase. Wanna see these two rigs badly. When anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black RONIN


    NOW you got my attention. Where did you get this info? If there's a 130 Trail Carbon and a 160 Big Mountain Carbon, where did the Prophet go in between? Sounds like they will end the Prophet line this year... Just like they do with every bike when a new model comes... run for one more year and then, bye. I'm pretty curious, though. I think it's the first time they lower the travel from a last year's model. Since the Jeckyl it was always a travel increase. Wanna see these two rigs badly. When anyone?
    Got the info straight from the Cannondale website... If you look at the big list I posted, there appear to be 4 Prophet models AND the 130 Trail and 160 Big Mountain lines.

    It's not a matter of increasing or decreasing travel, it's all about having a complete line: Scalpel: 90mm, Rush: 110mm, Trail: 130mm, Prophet: 140mm, Big Mountain: 160mm and so on all the way to the Judge...

    Now, these bikes could appear anytime between now and the end of the year so we'll all have to wait for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Got the info straight from the Cannondale website... If you look at the big list I posted, there appear to be 4 Prophet models AND the 130 Trail and 160 Big Mountain lines.

    It's not a matter of increasing or decreasing travel, it's all about having a complete line: Scalpel: 90mm, Rush: 110mm, Trail: 130mm, Prophet: 140mm, Big Mountain: 160mm and so on all the way to the Judge...

    Now, these bikes could appear anytime between now and the end of the year so we'll all have to wait for now.
    Yeah, I missed the Prophet line on the list... But what about that Trail line-up, not the 130 trail, but those that appears right before them? Is it the same listed twice or some sort of midway travel between the Scalpel-Rush or the Rush-130 Trail? Anyway, I didn't find any of this info on the site. Is it where? Is it an insiders/dealers only info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black RONIN
    Anyway, I didn't find any of this info on the site. Is it where? Is it an insiders/dealers only info?
    Check RideFaster's post above...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    Check RideFaster's post above...
    I could actually access the list. REALLY INTERESTING. But I had no tips what that "regular" Trail (Carbon LTD/1/2 and possibly aluminum 3/4/5 ) is about. But I'm now dying to see how they might look like! Oh, the wait...

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    Rush 4 alu

    I have seen the list above from Dan Gerous and asked myself if this will mean there
    will be a Rush 4 with an aluminium frame and Fox fork or only the carbon version in Europe ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by kallie
    I have seen the list above from Dan Gerous and asked myself if this will mean there
    will be a Rush 4 with an aluminium frame and Fox fork or only the carbon version in Europe ??
    You could always go to the European Cannondale site and look at the list.
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    I'm pretty sure that list is inclusive of all models across markets... Because the SL Prophet is listed there.

    I also noticed there is no Judge listed! (Or maybe I'm going blind)

    The Big mountain is interesting... Can't say I'm really fond of the name though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ar1981
    I'm pretty sure that list is inclusive of all models across markets... Because the SL Prophet is listed there.

    I also noticed there is no Judge listed! (Or maybe I'm going blind)

    The Big mountain is interesting... Can't say I'm really fond of the name though!
    I have to agree, Trail and Big Mountain are not very creative names... a bit boring.
    About the Judge, word is it will only be available as a frameset...

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    Does anyone know something about a new swingarm for the 2008 Rush, like a carbon or lighter one? I heard a rumor at my local C-dale store, but haven'tfound a word of it on the web.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    I have to agree, Trail and Big Mountain are not very creative names... a bit boring.
    About the Judge, word is it will only be available as a frameset...
    Maybe King James came up with the names.

    Frameset, because most people buying it are going the custom build route?
    Strange...

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    I finally saw the Cdale promo video for the 2008 Rush that comes with the new swingarm. It looks just like the 2007 one but it was deeply shaved in less stressed areas dropping around 190grs, no bad !

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    I've been scoping the 2008 cannondale dealer book religiously in the shop lately. Looks like all the rush frames are "rush sl"s, probably has to do with that lighter swingarm plus some other goodies. I've seen no update on the DLR2s having fox internals though. Of course all I've seen is the dealer book, i haven't seen any propaganda yet.
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    Today I went back to the store and saw a PDF of the 2008 catalog, this is what I found:
    - The Team Carbon Scalpel comes with the DT Carbon shock and with the Hollowgram SL crank in black color and with the bolt and SL logo in red color (double chainring is stock, I don't know if the triple version is an option)
    - Scalpel and Rush Team colors are the one used in Vredestein-Cannondale bikes and another one in blue, silver and black with white? letters
    - Carbon Scalpel front triangle is just like the System Six combination (only the seat tube is AL the rest is carbon)
    - Carbon Team Scalpel weights around 9.6 Kgs out of the box with pedals
    - Didn't find any info or pictures of the 130 TRAIL CARBON or the 160 BIG MOUNTAIN bikes found in the Cannondale list of 2008 bikes

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