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    Advantage of Lefty?

    what's so special about the lefty forks? I mean besides turning heads. Why would one chose a lefty over a traditional fork, etc...
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    Chassis siffness, plushness, lack of bushing bind during braking, best stiffness to weight ratio for forks of the same class, and yes, you don't have to take the wheel off to change a flat!
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan1104 View Post
    Indeed.

    Great video. Thanks.

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    Definitely make the front end lighter when climbing (not always good I might add)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan1104 View Post
    cool vid, thanks for that!

    Can I put a lefty on a trail sl4 29er? I'd assume the fork would have a 1.5 steerer? Where would I find such forks to purchase online?
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    don't believe all the hype about the Lefty...
    While it is stiff, and you can change a tire easier....you have to remember the cons too.
    Proprietary c-dale nonsense....you need a special Lefty Hub, you can't just use any hub out there...Bearing migration maintenance....you'll have to learn how to work on your fork (or have your LBS reset the bearings...chances are THEY don't even know what to do).
    I sold mine and bought a used PIKE...WAY better!
    Just my $.02...
    I'm not a hater, I still have 2 C-dales. I just think the BIG "3" make better forks (RS, Marz, Fox).

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    A bearing reset is a 10 min affair and the instructions are right in the owners manual.
    There are non-c'dale hubs available for the lefty.

    I sincerely hope nobody downgraded their bike from a Lefty to regular fork for these reasons! LOL

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    It takes me less time to do a bearing reset than to check the air pressure in both my tires. The way I see it, we are buying performance machines, and as such they require maintenance and may make some compromises in terms of convenience. But I buy my bike for for how it rides when I'm on the trail, not for how easily it fits in a trunk. All high end forks require regular maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeriderB View Post
    don't believe all the hype about the Lefty...
    While it is stiff, and you can change a tire easier....you have to remember the cons too.
    Proprietary c-dale nonsense....you need a special Lefty Hub, you can't just use any hub out there...Bearing migration maintenance....you'll have to learn how to work on your fork (or have your LBS reset the bearings...chances are THEY don't even know what to do).
    I sold mine and bought a used PIKE...WAY better!
    Just my $.02...
    I'm not a hater, I still have 2 C-dales. I just think the BIG "3" make better forks (RS, Marz, Fox).
    sorry but your reasons are invalid (and dumb) to diss a Lefty

    1) sure you need a special lefty hub, if it were universal it would'nt be a Lefty (duhhhhhhhhhhh)
    2) maintenance sure you need a to find a specialist but its a special fork and needs special attention. You wouldnt bring a Ferrari to Walmart for an Oil change would you?

    Now what makes the "BIG 3" a better fork than a lefty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan23 View Post
    sorry but your reasons are invalid (and dumb) to diss a Lefty

    1) sure you need a special lefty hub, if it were universal it would'nt be a Lefty (duhhhhhhhhhhh)
    2) maintenance sure you need a to find a specialist but its a special fork and needs special attention. You wouldnt bring a Ferrari to Walmart for an Oil change would you?

    Now what makes the "BIG 3" a better fork than a lefty?
    He makes a good point about the LBS and needed a specialist... Cannondales aren't sold everywhere and not many non-C'dale dealers are going to be familiar with the set up, although a good machanic with an internet connection should be able to figure it out.

    anyways seprate question I know they are a XC designed fork but for people that ride trail with them how do they hold up? how is the flex? deflection? strength? I've always been skeptical of them because on the technical down hils by my parents in the Black hills of sd my Fox 32 flexes and deflects like crazy, I upgraded to a 36mm, granted its a trail bike on some pretty serious trails but I know a lot of people that have just one bike and have a left on it... just wondering. Probably wont get one, they just don't have the travel for my type of riding

    and interesting video, but one that fork on the bottom must not have any air in it if it doesnt' return or it very poorly maintained and two of course a 1.5 heat tube is stiffer then a 1 and 1/8 but still very impressive about the lefty strenght

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    the only genuine way to convince either way is to test for yourself - the proof is in the pudding!

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    It's funny how some people think that all the LBS are capable of opening the latest RS or Marzocchi. As if.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cglasford View Post
    He makes a good point about the LBS and needed a specialist... Cannondales aren't sold everywhere and not many non-C'dale dealers are going to be familiar with the set up, although a good machanic with an internet connection should be able to figure it out.

    anyways seprate question I know they are a XC designed fork but for people that ride trail with them how do they hold up? how is the flex? deflection? strength? I've always been skeptical of them because on the technical down hils by my parents in the Black hills of sd my Fox 32 flexes and deflects like crazy, I upgraded to a 36mm, granted its a trail bike on some pretty serious trails but I know a lot of people that have just one bike and have a left on it... just wondering. Probably wont get one, they just don't have the travel for my type of riding

    and interesting video, but one that fork on the bottom must not have any air in it if it doesnt' return or it very poorly maintained and two of course a 1.5 heat tube is stiffer then a 1 and 1/8 but still very impressive about the lefty strenght

    The vid should have answered any querstions re strength. The Lefty is the strongest, lightest and plushest fork on the market. Period. Has been that way for the last 10 years or so.

    Re the vid, both forks had zero air/spring in them, so that they could be easily compressed by the presenter. What the vid depicts is not steerer tube deflection - its the fork legs and clamp flexing resulting in not only steering imprecision, but the binding of the fork stanchions in their bushings, ie massive performance loss.

    If you are looking for more than 140mm of travel, look elsewhere. But I AM ride my 120 and I love it. The small stuff lierally disappears under the Lefty and the big hits are absorbed just as well. All with zero detectabkle flex and zero binding. For frequent jumping and big drops, etc., I'd go with something else. Its kinda like taking a Ferrari through downtown NY potholed and kobble stone streets on a daily basis - it can do it . . . but there are better tools for that job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumpy View Post
    The vid should have answered any querstions re strength. The Lefty is the strongest, lightest and plushest fork on the market. Period. Has been that way for the last 10 years or so.

    Re the vid, both forks had zero air/spring in them, so that they could be easily compressed by the presenter. What the vid depicts is not steerer tube deflection - its the fork legs and clamp flexing resulting in not only steering imprecision, but the binding of the fork stanchions in their bushings, ie massive performance loss.

    If you are looking for more than 140mm of travel, look elsewhere. But I AM ride my 120 and I love it. The small stuff lierally disappears under the Lefty and the big hits are absorbed just as well. All with zero detectabkle flex and zero binding. For frequent jumping and big drops, etc., I'd go with something else. Its kinda like taking a Ferrari through downtown NY potholed and kobble stone streets on a daily basis - it can do it . . . but there are better tools for that job.
    Thanks for the clarification I must have missed the no air part but that makes the lefty pretty impressive. I think it probably is one of the best forks for XC but again it's not for me, might look silly on a claymore! haha, cool for fork tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumpy View Post
    The vid should have answered any querstions re strength. The Lefty is the strongest, lightest and plushest fork on the market. Period. Has been that way for the last 10 years or so.
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    No way. The strength to weight ratio of Lefty's is indeed impressive.

    But, many traditional dual crown forks are both stiffer and more plush. Boxxer, Fox 40, 888, etc. No Debate. I think any 35 or 36 mm stanchioned fork with a 20mm axle is noticeably stiffer as well. Obviously, all of these forks are going to weigh more than a Lefty however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altazo View Post
    No way. The strength to weight ratio of Lefty's is indeed impressive.

    But, many traditional dual crown forks are both stiffer and more plush. Boxxer, Fox 40, 888, etc. No Debate. I think any 35 or 36 mm stanchioned fork with a 20mm axle is noticeably stiffer as well. Obviously, all of these forks are going to weigh more than a Lefty however.
    You're right. I mispoke (my statement was too absolute and unqualified).

    Among sub 140mm forks (in other words - forks in the same class as the Lefty), I think my statement is generally true. Conventional forks w/ big axles are better than the small axle variety and perhaps similar to a Lefty in rigidity, but there is a weight penalty paid. You will not find a fork of comparable weight that is even in the same time zone as a Lefty in terms of stiffness.

    Dual crown forks are generally DH long travel forks and weigh a ton and are not in the same class as Lefty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cormac View Post
    what's so special about the lefty forks? I mean besides turning heads. Why would one chose a lefty over a traditional fork, etc...
    I have re worked your question:

    What is so special about dual crown forks? I mean they are everywhere, they are heavier (for like travel 110 vs 110), have more flex and do not work as well.

    Why would anyone choose a traditional fork over a lefty?

    I do not know.
    Forks are for eating, Lefty's are for racing,

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    How much should a Lefty conversion cost on a trail SL 2? I havent figure which fork to go with but I just want to ask what kind of price range I might be looking at.

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    Check Ebay. The prices vary alot depending on what model and how much travel. I just picked up a DLR2 100mm travel fork for $200, but it's for an XC bike. If you want 140mm travel, carbon,etc, you'll pay a bunch more. Dont forget about the price of a new front wheel as well.

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    Last week, during a long ride on my first gen scalpel with carbon lefty, I tried my friends newer (2 year old) carbon hardtail with a higher-end fox fork. Compared to the Lefty, it just seemed like a toy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan23 View Post
    sorry but your reasons are invalid (and dumb) to diss a Lefty

    1) sure you need a special lefty hub, if it were universal it would'nt be a Lefty (duhhhhhhhhhhh)
    2) maintenance sure you need a to find a specialist but its a special fork and needs special attention. You wouldnt bring a Ferrari to Walmart for an Oil change would you?

    Now what makes the "BIG 3" a better fork than a lefty?

    don't get all upset because someone bags on your prized Lefty.
    only recently have other wheel companies offered Lefty specific wheels and hubs (e.g. Mavic).
    For YEARS it was C-dale or Woodman...NOTHING else.

    I'm not an xc guy, the Lefty I had was 140mm and compared to my PIKE it sucked.
    The PIKE is way plusher, better on all types of hits, and only requires an overhaul once a season.
    It's a workhorse that never dissapoints.

    not much heavier either (454 air)

    Your fooling yourself if you think your local C-dale dealer is a Lefty specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumpy View Post
    The vid should have answered any querstions re strength. The Lefty is the strongest, lightest and plushest fork on the market. Period. Has been that way for the last 10 years or so.

    Re the vid, both forks had zero air/spring in them, so that they could be easily compressed by the presenter. What the vid depicts is not steerer tube deflection - its the fork legs and clamp flexing resulting in not only steering imprecision, but the binding of the fork stanchions in their bushings, ie massive performance loss.

    If you are looking for more than 140mm of travel, look elsewhere. But I AM ride my 120 and I love it. The small stuff lierally disappears under the Lefty and the big hits are absorbed just as well. All with zero detectabkle flex and zero binding. For frequent jumping and big drops, etc., I'd go with something else. Its kinda like taking a Ferrari through downtown NY potholed and kobble stone streets on a daily basis - it can do it . . . but there are better tools for that job.
    just wondering...what kind of "Big Hits" does your Lefty 120 absorb?
    and, if the Lefty is so great, why wouldn't C-dale up the travel to 150mm in order to compete with the DOZENS of competitors offerings?

    again with the Ferrari? Have you ever ridden anything other than a C-dale with a lefty?

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    The two areas where my lefty excels over my other bike (which has a recon) are giving the bike a lighter feel and giving the bike more precise steering. The actual suspension side to the fork is different and not necessarily better or worse. I definitely prefer it for the cross country riding I mainly do.

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    one other thing i forgot to mention...
    I like the fact that I can send my PIKE, 888...etc out to different companies for rebuilds and custom tuning (If you really want to dial in the fork to your weight and riding style).
    Companies like PUSH offer great performance, service, and value. AND I don't have to go through my LBS to send it out.
    C-dale makes everything SO difficult in terms of service and propietory components.

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