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    2015 Cannondales

    A thread for the 2015 line…

    I'm starting it with the 27.5" Trigger that's being launched as we speak. The SuperMax is 140mm and the rear is DYAD RT2 140/90mm. They're also officially introducing the 27.5" Jekyll today…

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    and jekkyl 27,5 is 160mm

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    all is in line : Overmountain : Trigger 27.5

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    14.3" bb height on the new Jekyll?! The geometry seems quite conservative in contrast to the trend of long top tubes and lower BBs. I guess when you have a guy winning the EWS on your bike, you don't want to mess with things too much.

    The builds look good. The value appears to be at the 3 models. Also, I was curious to see if Cannondale would be able to continue to spec a 1.5 steerer on non-lefty forks. It looks like the Pikes are tapered.

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    Look good, I can't find pricing- have they released that info yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YodaForce View Post
    Look good, I can't find pricing- have they released that info yet?
    Jekyll Carbon Team - 5999€
    Jekyll Carbon 2 - 4699€
    Jekyll 3 - 3699€
    Jekyll 4 - 2999€

    Trigger 27,5" Black Inc - 8999€
    Trigger 27,5" Carbon team - 6499€
    Trigger 27,5" Carbon 2 - 4499€
    Trigger 3 27,5" - 3499€
    Trigger 4 27,5" - 2999€

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak6767 View Post
    Jekyll Carbon Team - 5999€
    Jekyll Carbon 2 - 4699€
    Jekyll 3 - 3699€
    Jekyll 4 - 2999€

    Trigger 27,5" Black Inc - 8999€
    Trigger 27,5" Carbon team - 6499€
    Trigger 27,5" Carbon 2 - 4499€
    Trigger 3 27,5" - 3499€
    Trigger 4 27,5" - 2999€
    I'm guessing the availability will be... May? June?

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    2015 Cannondales

    Interestingly they have gone with the trigger 29er linkage with the trigger 27.5. Last year in 26 guise it had the Jekyll linkage. Having tried them both I prefer the new trigger style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    I'm guessing the availability will be... May? June?
    Some Jekyll could arrive as early as April at my LBS in france. So my guess is that because they pretty much let 2013 goes by, that Cannondale will be rather quick for these new 650b's, and don't make people wait any longer. Time will tell!

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    nice looking.............

    If I bust my RZ140 frame, it's going to cost me some cash to get 650b rims strapped onto my hubs I have now.
    Lead by my Lefty............... right down the trail, no brakes.

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    Nuts to the bikes, when's that 160mm Lefty hitting after market?

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    650B?

    29ers with an eating disorder, how quaint.

    Gee, let's follow a useless trend because someone said it was cool so many times the marketing guys started believing it.

    Now, if they get off their duffs and stop wasting valuable resources chasing the next "big thing" so as not to be the last one to the party, they'd realize it's already staring them in the face as they blindly ignore it.

    Build a damn FatLefty already, and beat all the other slackers to the punch.

    Oh, a MUSA line of frames, including a fatbike would be a big way to signal that they are actually paying attention to trends that matter too....
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    I'd be interested to see if one could get upgraded dampers for "old" Supermax and Dyad.

    Prices are ridiculously high, especially considering what money can buy today if you buy directy.
    For less than what alloy Jekyll 3 costs, one can get something like this.

    I mean, SLX/X7/low end wheels on a bike that costs almost €5000... not happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    650B?

    29ers with an eating disorder, how quaint.

    Gee, let's follow a useless trend because someone said it was cool so many times the marketing guys started believing it.

    Now, if they get off their duffs and stop wasting valuable resources chasing the next "big thing" so as not to be the last one to the party, they'd realize it's already staring them in the face as they blindly ignore it.

    Build a damn FatLefty already, and beat all the other slackers to the punch.

    Oh, a MUSA line of frames, including a fatbike would be a big way to signal that they are actually paying attention to trends that matter too....
    Fat bikes with suspension… Isn't it like strapping a couch over the seat of a 1985 Lincoln Town Car?

    Edit, added:

    Personally, I never 'followed the useless 29er trend' like you say… and I was quite amused to watch some of the women at the Fontana US Cup having trouble to ride confortably on their bikes with too big wheels and too tall front ends for them. If it was me, I wouldn't make 29er bikes in small or medium… Maybe make smalls 26", medium 27.5" and large and x-large 29"… 29er make sense to tall people but when a 5'2" wants a 29er because the industry and it's marketing told him so…

    As far as as Made in US… Well, let's not go there, again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    Fat bikes with suspension… Isn't it like strapping a couch over the seat of a 1985 Lincoln Town Car?
    They said the same thing when the "first" fat tires came out.

    You know, 26x1.75?

    All those hard bodies back in the late 80's were saying the same thing. I love my rigid, why would I want suspension?

    Now we've got more squish than a chubby chaser convention.

    Strap on some squish to a fatty, and you'll realize what was missing all along!

    I take it you aren't fat yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    They said the same thing when the "first" fat tires came out.

    You know, 26x1.75?

    All those hard bodies back in the late 80's were saying the same thing. I love my rigid, why would I want suspension?

    Now we've got more squish than a chubby chaser convention.

    Strap on some squish to a fatty, and you'll realize what was missing all along!

    I take it you aren't fat yet?
    I try not to become fat… and the last mountain bike I got was in 2008, it's got retro 26" wheels! My 29ers are 100% rigid and skinny tired as they're road and CX bikes!

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    2015 Cannondales

    Just noticed the new dyad shocks have sag indicators on them. Wonder if they are retro fit too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgs010 View Post
    Just noticed the new dyad shocks have sag indicators on them. Wonder if they are retro fit too?
    Yes, definitely.

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    Here's photos of the Black Inc.
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    i got my info from this drone and this dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    i got my info from this drone and this dude.
    Haaa this dude… Salut Jérôme!

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    2015 Cannondales

    No "frame only" or "frame &fork" options?

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    Jekyll carbon team will be available as a frame w/shock and fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    I try not to become fat… and the last mountain bike I got was in 2008, it's got retro 26" wheels! My 29ers are 100% rigid and skinny tired as they're road and CX bikes!
    And here I thought I was the retro grouch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    If it was me, I wouldn't make 29er bikes in small or medium… Maybe make smalls 26", medium 27.5" and large and x-large 29"… 29er make sense to tall people but when a 5'2" wants a 29er because the industry and it's marketing told him so…

    As far as as Made in US… Well, let's not go there, again!
    I agree 100%. They aren't for all or the small. But, my wife @ 5' 5" says you can pry her steel, straight tubed, medium framed 29er from her cold, dead fingers, so there's that, and she is not one prone to marketing whimsy. Then there's the ridiculous gyrations frame makers have to go through to get standover for the big wheels on small frames ends up leaving them looking like half cooked, re-dried spaghetti. Fugly doesn't begin to do it justice.

    But, marketing being what it is, it saw sales, and chased them, just as it's doing now with 650B.

    I'm all for products being made in their own country of consumption if you will. I'm American, but not in the vapid, flag waving, screw anything that ain't from my side of the border, bassboat/barbecue/bible belt, the only product worth a damn is one that's made on my soil, way.

    I was born into it, (nothing I can do about that) so I'm making the best of it. this said, I do like jobs for my neighbors, and less fossil fuel consumed is always a good thing, and increasingly, the one thing we should all be paying attention to. What's currently happening (and not just the bike industry mind you) is exclusively so some beancounter can justify their existence by getting shareholders increased profitability, and that, I could give a rats a$$ about.

    Many companies are finally starting to bring stuff "home" again, around the world, and I'm all for it. Let's start thinking about reduced carbon footprint, across the whole globe.

    Imagine if each country had the skills and infrastructure to make all their own stuff for their needs and desires? How cool would that be? Then we could just bring in regional specialties that are unique to an area and unobtainable in your own. As opposed to now, where you can't buy really, much of anything made on your own soil, all because a few developing regions prostituted their citizens labor in the name of the worlds corporate greed.

    Sorry, I guess I went there, but at least tried to do so in a thoughtful way!

    As for that bike Francois posted, looks good, at least they got the memo about Kawasaki, late 90's EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEME green being played out......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marin (CRO) View Post
    I'd be interested to see if one could get upgraded dampers for "old" Supermax and Dyad.
    :
    I contacted Fox yesterday about rebuilding my DYAD RT2 shock with the new spec rebound piston. They said it would be available for an upgrade sometime this summer. So I'm waiting to get my annual service rebuild until then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    And here I thought I was the retro grouch!
    I'm no retro grouch, I'm all for 11 speeds, single rings, wiiiiiiide bars, 27.5", internationalization of businesses... I just never liked 29ers, they're slower on the trails I love. My last mountain bike is that old because I ride on the road most nowadays, not worth the investment to buy a new mountain bike for not using it much. I'd love a 27.5" 1x11 Flash Carbon though...

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    So , what will come next ?

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    What about a new Flash or Scalpel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lando47 View Post
    What about a new Flash or Scalpel?
    A 27.5 Flash would be an absolute rocket ship. I wouldn't trade in my Scalpel though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    . . . . . at least they got the memo about Kawasaki, late 90's EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEME green being played out......
    But 'murdered out' black isn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lando47 View Post
    What about a new Flash or Scalpel?
    I've literally just pulled the trigger on a 29er. Not that a 650b would change anything for me. It would be good to see though, you should be able to choose 26/27.5 or 29er but we all know it'll never happen due to the over heads etc. Marketing companies wouldn't be able to convince you that your bike is redundant and therefore you MUST buy a new one.

    Buying my 29er has been painful, and a lot of work. My 26er (medium) was slightly too small for me, so I had to really look at the geometry to check it will fit. After 3 days, and talking to lots of fit bods that use all different frameworks, they all agree that the medium is the right size for me in 29er. Although it's only slightly bigger than the 26, it's enough to make it fit. Where as the large would quite simply be miles too big. I'd have to use a 70mm stem, which will all know is impossible with a Lefty. The only catch is that I need to have a longer seat post than the 350mm one provided, you call CSG (Cannondale distributors in the UK) and ask for a longer seat post, of course the answer is no. Can you get me one? No (again). Can you source one from another bike? No, they're all sealed and stored by a third party who aren't aloud to open the boxes. Can you get one me directly from FSA? No, they only make one per bike specifically for Cannondale.

    Now, I'm not gunning CSG here, I have had nothing but positive experiences with them, and couldn't sign their praises enough, and I understand the reasons behind their answers... But wouldn't it be nice if you could say "Right I want this, in that size, with those tires, and pink tassels on the bar ends!" Instead I have to buy a whole bike, with parts that don't fit me, or don't match, buy the parts that too fit in addition to the cost of the bike and then sell the old parts to someone on eBay who's fees make the whole exercise rather pointless.... So anyways, I'm going to have to sell the FSA seat post and bars and I have replaced them with the Enve set (oh the pain). The next problem is the fact that I can only buy the Enve kit with white decals, because the stealth black stuff is custom made for Cannondale and you can't buy it after market... so my lovely Enve finishing kit won't match my lovely Enve rims. But don't worry, I can buy new rim stickers, for £5 each..... REALLY?!?!?! Oh, and the rear mech (xx1) is the wrong bloody colour! Who's dumb idea was that? I think the conversation went something like this.

    John says: "Hey, I know what'll look cool, lets colour code the group set to go with the bike"
    Derek says: "What about the rear mech boss, shall we do anything with that"
    John says: "Yeah, make it green too, but just for a laugh, lets ship half of them with red detailing"
    Derek says" "TROLOLOLOLOL, YOU'RE MY HERO JOHN!"

    Santa Cruz has it right, "customise your bike (including the colour of the rim decals), we'll build it for you and send it out to you". I would love for Cannondale to do the same thing... Or just make the after market bits available... Of course I could just buy a Black Inc and steel the bars and seat post from it.... Admittedly this is a very first world problem, don't come back at me with "People are starving in Africa" because although it's very sad, and I sympathise deeply, it's not relevant to the conversation at hand.

    I guess my point is, and I have gone off at a tangent here... is that you should be able to just choose exactly what you want, order it and go. Whether its down to the colour coding or the wheel size, but it will never happen because companies obviously don't want to take the risk of a pile of expensive carbon components/frames sitting in their warehouses collecting dust I guess. We can only dream.

    @Mendon, tbh I prefer the frames etc being made in China/Tai-Wan. They're simply higher quality IMO. I've just got a load of Enve stuff though, so we'll see how well it does.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostN7 View Post
    I've literally just pulled the trigger on a 29er. Not that a 650b would change anything for me. It would be good to see though, you should be able to choose 26/27.5 or 29er but we all know it'll never happen due to the over heads etc. Marketing companies wouldn't be able to convince you that your bike is redundant and therefore you MUST buy a new one.

    Buying my 29er has been painful, and a lot of work. My 26er (medium) was slightly too small for me, so I had to really look at the geometry to check it will fit. After 3 days, and talking to lots of fit bods that use all different frameworks, they all agree that the medium is the right size for me in 29er. Although it's only slightly bigger than the 26, it's enough to make it fit. Where as the large would quite simply be miles too big. I'd have to use a 70mm stem, which will all know is impossible with a Lefty. The only catch is that I need to have a longer seat post than the 350mm one provided, you call CSG (Cannondale distributors in the UK) and ask for a longer seat post, of course the answer is no. Can you get me one? No (again). Can you source one from another bike? No, they're all sealed and stored by a third party who aren't aloud to open the boxes. Can you get one me directly from FSA? No, they only make one per bike specifically for Cannondale.

    Now, I'm not gunning CSG here, I have had nothing but positive experiences with them, and couldn't sign their praises enough, and I understand the reasons behind their answers... But wouldn't it be nice if you could say "Right I want this, in that size, with those tires, and pink tassels on the bar ends!" Instead I have to buy a whole bike, with parts that don't fit me, or don't match, buy the parts that too fit in addition to the cost of the bike and then sell the old parts to someone on eBay who's fees make the whole exercise rather pointless.... So anyways, I'm going to have to sell the FSA seat post and bars and I have replaced them with the Enve set (oh the pain). The next problem is the fact that I can only buy the Enve kit with white decals, because the stealth black stuff is custom made for Cannondale and you can't buy it after market... so my lovely Enve finishing kit won't match my lovely Enve rims. But don't worry, I can buy new rim stickers, for £5 each..... REALLY?!?!?! Oh, and the rear mech (xx1) is the wrong bloody colour! Who's dumb idea was that? I think the conversation went something like this.

    John says: "Hey, I know what'll look cool, lets colour code the group set to go with the bike"
    Derek says: "What about the rear mech boss, shall we do anything with that"
    John says: "Yeah, make it green too, but just for a laugh, lets ship half of them with red detailing"
    Derek says" "TROLOLOLOLOL, YOU'RE MY HERO JOHN!"

    Santa Cruz has it right, "customise your bike (including the colour of the rim decals), we'll build it for you and send it out to you". I would love for Cannondale to do the same thing... Or just make the after market bits available... Of course I could just buy a Black Inc and steel the bars and seat post from it.... Admittedly this is a very first world problem, don't come back at me with "People are starving in Africa" because although it's very sad, and I sympathise deeply, it's not relevant to the conversation at hand.

    I guess my point is, and I have gone off at a tangent here... is that you should be able to just choose exactly what you want, order it and go. Whether its down to the colour coding or the wheel size, but it will never happen because companies obviously don't want to take the risk of a pile of expensive carbon components/frames sitting in their warehouses collecting dust I guess. We can only dream.

    @Mendon, tbh I prefer the frames etc being made in China/Tai-Wan. They're simply higher quality IMO. I've just got a load of Enve stuff though, so we'll see how well it does.
    Whooohoo nice hijack of the 2015 thread! LOL
    I think you're spending too much time on a color match issue than actually riding!
    Go ride!! white enve decal won't make you any slower on the trail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak6767 View Post
    Whooohoo nice hijack of the 2015 thread! LOL
    I think you're spending too much time on a color match issue than actually riding!
    Go ride!! white enve decal won't make you any slower on the trail...
    Don't pretend you're not a big bike tart like me, I've seen your bikes I will, when I get it. Which is tomorrow if you're interested

    It was kinda on topic, I did admit to going off on a tangent, but who really cares?
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostN7 View Post
    Don't pretend you're not a big bike tart like me, I've seen your bikes I will, when I get it. Which is tomorrow if you're interested

    It was kinda on topic, I did admit to going off on a tangent, but who really cares?
    Oh I like bikes, and get all the parts I want or need, but will never phone cannondale to complain about colors :-) Nor it would prevent me from going out shredding the trails around. As long as the bikes work, the rest is decoration :-) Hey but that's just my opinion!

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    I even went riding yesterday and didn't clean my back after....I'm a rebel now...!!! ;-) and my enve wheels/bar aren't even color matched to my bikes... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by freak6767 View Post
    Oh I like bikes, and get all the parts I want or need, but will never phone cannondale to complain about colors :-) Nor it would prevent me from going out shredding the trails around. As long as the bikes work, the rest is decoration :-) Hey but that's just my opinion!

    PS
    I even went riding yesterday and didn't clean my back after....I'm a rebel now...!!! ;-) and my enve wheels/bar aren't even color matched to my bikes... LOL
    Didn't even clean your bike...... You tell me off for going off topic, and you don't even clean your bike.... You look after bike, bike look after you my amigo!
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    I agree 100%. They aren't for all or the small. But, my wife @ 5' 5" says you can pry her steel, straight tubed, medium framed 29er from her cold, dead fingers, so there's that, and she is not one prone to marketing whimsy. Then there's the ridiculous gyrations frame makers have to go through to get standover for the big wheels on small frames ends up leaving them looking like half cooked, re-dried spaghetti. Fugly doesn't begin to do it justice.

    But, marketing being what it is, it saw sales, and chased them, just as it's doing now with 650B.

    I'm all for products being made in their own country of consumption if you will. I'm American, but not in the vapid, flag waving, screw anything that ain't from my side of the border, bassboat/barbecue/bible belt, the only product worth a damn is one that's made on my soil, way.

    I was born into it, (nothing I can do about that) so I'm making the best of it. this said, I do like jobs for my neighbors, and less fossil fuel consumed is always a good thing, and increasingly, the one thing we should all be paying attention to. What's currently happening (and not just the bike industry mind you) is exclusively so some beancounter can justify their existence by getting shareholders increased profitability, and that, I could give a rats a$$ about.

    Many companies are finally starting to bring stuff "home" again, around the world, and I'm all for it. Let's start thinking about reduced carbon footprint, across the whole globe.

    Imagine if each country had the skills and infrastructure to make all their own stuff for their needs and desires? How cool would that be? Then we could just bring in regional specialties that are unique to an area and unobtainable in your own. As opposed to now, where you can't buy really, much of anything made on your own soil, all because a few developing regions prostituted their citizens labor in the name of the worlds corporate greed.

    Sorry, I guess I went there, but at least tried to do so in a thoughtful way!

    As for that bike Francois posted, looks good, at least they got the memo about Kawasaki, late 90's EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEME green being played out......
    Amen brother, see my PM, you may find it interesting............
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    Here's photos of the Black Inc.
    Just curious if you put that pup on a scale before you gave it back
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    any info on new leftys? like proper specs, prices, availability?

    I'd like one on my Jekyll '12, don't really want to change the wheel size

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
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    Francis-

    Will the Trigger be an overkill ride for Skeggs, Waterdog or is it suitable more for places like Demo?

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    I think I saw an Italian post about changes for the F29 for 2015: Size-specific Lefties, Thru-axle on the rear end of the frame. What else? Internal tubing? Di2-prepared?

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    F29 2015 -The perfect bike :
    1-Aero design ,more agressive ,delta tube as Synapse ,
    2-Hollogram carbon ,
    3-Different lefty sizes ,low end front ,more racing ,not necessary 20 degrees stems ,
    4-DI2 ready to mount ,
    5-142 rear axle or an system integration axle ,
    6-Integrated seat post ,its pre historical to see it yet in mountain bikes ,
    7-internal cables or guide cables in the lefty to not see the paint cracks on frames and lefty fork .

    ps :Peter denk we dont want an sworks with a lefty saying cdale ,we need a great platform ...

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    These lefties use a new hub right?

    Quote Originally Posted by cannondaleportugal View Post
    6-Integrated seat post ,its pre historical to see it yet in mountain bikes ,
    Sounds awful. The rest looks good though.

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    Cannondale has built an enduro race bike with over a year of R&D with the fastest enduro riders in europe and the US. The Jekyll is an enduro race bike and the SoCal/Forum winning 13" bb height doesn't work for balls our enduro racing if you need to pedal. MOST IMPORTANTLY - those geo stats are static on a bike that has 2 different static sag settings. The BB drops close to 10mm and 1degree slacker when in flow mode or 30% sag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan23 View Post
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    Trigger with 140mm travel will be absolutely perfect for the Bay Area. The rear travel can be put to 85 mm of travel so it has a broad sweet spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonraker View Post
    I contacted Fox yesterday about rebuilding my DYAD RT2 shock with the new spec rebound piston. They said it would be available for an upgrade sometime this summer. So I'm waiting to get my annual service rebuild until then.
    Maybe I've missed something , but what changes with the new rebound?

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    Does the jeckyll 27.5 carbon 2 have an alu lefty?
    It should, as the carbon1's lefty is listed as carbon while the carbon2's isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savo View Post
    Does the jeckyll 27.5 carbon 2 have an alu lefty?
    It should, as the carbon1's lefty is listed as carbon while the carbon2's isn't.
    you are right,but there isnt a alu 160mm lefty as far as i know....

    and the weight is listed at 1850 g for both

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    The Cannondale website says that the Lefty on the 27.5 Jekyll Carbon 2 is carbon too.

    Here: 2015 Jekyll 27.5 Carbon 2 - MOUNTAIN - BIKES - 2014 and check under "Specifications"

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    I demo'd a JEKYLL 27.5 CARBON TEAM with the Carbon MAX etc today at Glentress in Scotland. The Cannondale guys said that it was the first one in the country and only arrived here a few days ago.

    The frame felt very similar to my 26 Jekyll, i was at home on it as soon as i turned a pedal. The guys also let me set up the rear shock to my exact pressures. The frame felt very playful and stiff, but so does my 26 Jekyll

    The fork felt really amazing, very stiff, unbelievably smooth and encouraged me to push hard over the rough, drops and jumps. I did a back to back comparison with a SC Tallboy 29er with a Pike, and the Lefty felt every bit as stiff, but smoother ( The SC guys set up the Pike, i never adjusted it at all).

    I also rode a TRIGGER 27.5 CARBON TEAM, great bike, enjoyed it, but for me the Jekyll works better as an all-round concept, as it climbs every bit as well as the TRIGGER, but is more capable and fun the downs.

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    Good to hear they haven't ruined it in every way with the bigger wheels but also I enjoy that you find your current bike as potent as the new so we can still enjoy our babies for a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogdan_mb View Post
    Good to hear they haven't ruined it in every way with the bigger wheels but also I enjoy that you find your current bike as potent as the new so we can still enjoy our babies for a while

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    The wheel size and new geometry was barely detectable, which i was very surprised about, maybe spending a lot more time riding one would make it more apparent. The Lefty Max was the difference that stood out, not the bigger wheels. But as much as i loved the Lefty, i'm really not sure it would be worth spending more than double the money that i estimate it will cost in Europe compared to a Pike. Anyone getting a new Jekyll with the 160mm Lefty fitted is going to absolutely love it though, and i will admit im already slightly jealous

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    That bike was designed to go fast in an Enduro race setting not shine in the Pinkbike forums. I found the old Jekyll to have too low of a bb for balls out racing and that's why they bumped it up. Watch Clementz and the rest of the team destroy on this bike this season. Not the Santa Cruz dudes with 13" bbs. Also, this bike has a super long wheelbase and top tube. And, the 14" bb is unsagged on a bike that has 35percent sag.
    Quote Originally Posted by D(C) View Post
    14.3" bb height on the new Jekyll?! The geometry seems quite conservative in contrast to the trend of long top tubes and lower BBs. I guess when you have a guy winning the EWS on your bike, you don't want to mess with things too much.

    The builds look good. The value appears to be at the 3 models. Also, I was curious to see if Cannondale would be able to continue to spec a 1.5 steerer on non-lefty forks. It looks like the Pikes are tapered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chick0 View Post
    The wheel size and new geometry was barely detectable, which i was very surprised about, maybe spending a lot more time riding one would make it more apparent. The Lefty Max was the difference that stood out, not the bigger wheels. But as much as i loved the Lefty, i'm really not sure it would be worth spending more than double the money that i estimate it will cost in Europe compared to a Pike. Anyone getting a new Jekyll with the 160mm Lefty fitted is going to absolutely love it though, and i will admit im already slightly jealous
    I will get the Pike in a few days with 500 euros where the new Lefty I'll doubt anyone could get it under 1500 euros. I believe it's a great fork but at 1,9 kg it's on par with the Pike. Therefore I think again that I could still enjoy a frame+fork setup that won the EWS last year ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idahomountain View Post
    I found the old Jekyll to have too low of a bb for balls out racing
    My Jekyll MX with 160 mm Fox 36 has bb height around 14", so quite similar to the new model. It would definitely be a bit lower with the Fox 32 150.

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    Looks like a 2015 F29 to me. They're prob changing the team paint job again, just to spite me....
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chick0 View Post
    I demo'd a JEKYLL 27.5 CARBON TEAM with the Carbon MAX etc today at Glentress in Scotland. The Cannondale guys said that it was the first one in the country and only arrived here a few days ago.

    The frame felt very similar to my 26 Jekyll, i was at home on it as soon as i turned a pedal. The guys also let me set up the rear shock to my exact pressures. The frame felt very playful and stiff, but so does my 26 Jekyll

    The fork felt really amazing, very stiff, unbelievably smooth and encouraged me to push hard over the rough, drops and jumps. I did a back to back comparison with a SC Tallboy 29er with a Pike, and the Lefty felt every bit as stiff, but smoother ( The SC guys set up the Pike, i never adjusted it at all).

    I also rode a TRIGGER 27.5 CARBON TEAM, great bike, enjoyed it, but for me the Jekyll works better as an all-round concept, as it climbs every bit as well as the TRIGGER, but is more capable and fun the downs.

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    I WANT.

    Except, with Enve rims, a CK hub, SiSL2 cranks, Enve bars, and Hope brakes
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostN7 View Post
    I WANT.

    Except, with Enve rims, a CK hub, SiSL2 cranks, Enve bars, and Hope brakes
    Better start from the Black Inc. model...
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    I prefer the team colours.. Matt is impossible to keep clean, and scratches easily. The Black Inc versions don't always make sense either.

    For example, the 2013 F29 Black Inc came with XTR 2x10? What is this relic of the past? It should be in a museum next to 26" wheels. The nobly reason I wanted it was for the Chris Kind rear hub, which is probably the reason it's 2x10. I'm going to be upgrading my hub on May 1st when CK release the XX1 compatible hub
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    Can't make a lot from this picture, but looks like the same prototype green paint they typically use
    (Keegan S at Cairns this weekend)
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    Quote Originally Posted by freak6767 View Post
    Can't make a lot from this picture, but looks like the same prototype green paint they typically use
    (Keegan S at Cairns this weekend)
    Looks like the new team colors.... which usually mean next season's Team Replica color for mortals (consumers). This one has the same color scheme but it is for Team Sho-Air. It also sports the new Enve rims and the new 0gram InvisibiLefty!

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    Check out the fox rear shock!
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    Any pricing info on the Jekyll Carbon Team frame+lefty combo?

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    Will the framset be available outside the USA?

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    Will the Supermax be available alone anytime soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cannondaleportugal View Post
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    from what i've seen of the new generation F/flash, they've simply refined an already excellent frame, shorter head tube = lower front end, press fit bb30, rear brake calliper on chainstay, flatter seatstays. high/conventional front derailleur mount...

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkincake View Post
    from what i've seen of the new generation F/flash, they've simply refined an already excellent frame, shorter head tube = lower front end, press fit bb30, rear brake calliper on chainstay, flatter seatstays. high/conventional front derailleur mount...

    Exactly ,and perhaps because we are going to see something new in 650 b wheels .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    Looks like the new team colors.... which usually mean next season's Team Replica color for mortals (consumers). This one has the same color scheme but it is for Team Sho-Air. It also sports the new Enve rims and the new 0gram InvisibiLefty!

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    I know I usually always hate the new colours, and then later perform a U-turn, but that is seriously fugly.
    and no, I am not missing the other half of my fork....

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    I really like that colour! Maybe nobody will buy and I can get one with a big discount

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    Fumic on new one?
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    I wonder if the shorter headtubes on the new F29 will allow full travel of the lefty. A shorter headtube implies that the clamps will be closer together and then more clearance between the bottom of the headtube and the front wheel. There would be no more need for the travel reducers and travel could be increased to 110mm? instead of 90mm. That would also mean the volume reducers would no longer be required which would give a different spring rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schworm View Post
    I wonder if the shorter headtubes on the new F29 will allow full travel of the lefty. A shorter headtube implies that the clamps will be closer together and then more clearance between the bottom of the headtube and the front wheel. There would be no more need for the travel reducers and travel could be increased to 110mm? instead of 90mm. That would also mean the volume reducers would no longer be required which would give a different spring rate.
    that's a lefty supermax, so you could be right on!
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    And the new F29 is already a winner.

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    Good side shot showing the re-shaped seatstays with the rear brake inside the rear triangle as well as the SuperMax style spindle of the new Lefty... With the now size specific headtube length and the Lefty's main structure now slightly further behind, shorter riders will have a much easier time fitting their bars lower and with sorter reach with shorter stems possible.

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    Nice!!!!! I can't wait for see it...

    Thanks for post Dan.
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    Rear brake cable routed down bottom tube! nice I hate it running up the top tube

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    looks like 27.5 to me...

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    just saw some other photos with 29" on the tires.

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    So it sounds like Cannondale has been listening to consumers.

    Shorter head tubes for lower bars. they have also brough the front fork closer to the rider to allow shorter stem and lower bar position and put an offset on the hub to keep the wheel in the same spot.

    Wonder if the frame is 140mm disc compatible in the rear. I am guessing not.

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    Cool! 142 x 12 rear axle?

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    Looks like still standard QR




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    Quote Originally Posted by freak6767 View Post
    Jekyll Carbon Team - 5999€
    Hello freak6767 - is that a typo or is it indeed 6 grand in France? I seem to have seen it anywhere else for 6499EUR

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    Can't believe they didn't do 142x12... They must be doing it for the XC racers, to keep fast tire changes

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    You are already f-ed if you have a puncture on the front tire with a Lefty, and personally it's a DNF for me if I get a puncture.

    So yeah, I also don't get it.

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    Front wheel is easier to move out chamber or tyre , no need to get out the wheel with the lefty ,the rear wheels they should increase stifness with 142 axle ,unless they prove the oposite with stifness of the frame ...

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    Come on. I've never seen anyone fix a flat tire during a race. It's either a new wheel from the tech zone, or game over.

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    But some guys who doesn t make competition dont need to be quick , i agree indeed with the 142 rear axle , as you said change wheel or game over and for a mechanic i think is almost the same remove a 142 axle or a conventional one .

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    Through axle is much better IMO.
    Not only it's stiffer, it's safer, very quick to remove (no real difference to QR with TA with lever) and much less fiddly since you don't have to adjust nut on the other side of the QR.

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    another pic of 2015 Scalpel ...
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    the reduced steerer tube of F29 2015 ...

    ah ... which name will have this bike ???

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    @the shorter head tube: So for the new F29er frame I'll have to get the new lefty as well? Expect details to be released by Cdale at the WC round in Albstadt this weekend.

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    2015 versions of F-SI, the new name of the Flash 29er

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    I'm not liking the increase in size. The seat tube and reach of the large are both increased by 10 mm

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    2015 versions of F-SI, the new name of the Flash 29er

    F for Flash

    SI for System Integration
    And with XTR DI2, yes!

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    FIRENZE rulez !!
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    check XTR di2 here :
    XTR Di2 | eliflap

    on Sunday on Absalon BMC bike in Albstaad at XX world championship

    check Peter Denk talking F-Si :

    video F-Si | eliflap


    check Sagan and Fontana on F-Si in Massa Marittima, Tuscany:


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