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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    Sorry, I know that doesn't help you and you certainly haven't done anything wrong. I hope you find a solution soon!
    apology accepted, Lol it's all good.

    Shops have their brands that they deal with, so a "One Off" steel hardtail with a 44MM headtube that needs to be cut is a rarity. Especially if they are not a rep for the make.

    All the shops here play with the majors Niner , Specialized ,Trek ,Giant , etc.
    Complete builds mostly and mostly carbon frames. If there is an issue with fitment
    it goes back for a replacement . During the conversations I have had with shop owners and mechanics was that they can't recall a time in the last few years that they had to ream and face a head tube. So the cost is not justified.
    They would prefer to sell me a headset that may fit.

    Please PM me if you know of a place that has the tools.
    Still no luck on my end

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    Every shop in Pittsburgh has a full compliment of tools.

    This is really baffling me, that the bike shop says they don't ream or face frames. While they can certainly install headsets, bearings and bottom brackets without preparing the frame, it is what I consider to be shoddy workmanship. It might seem fine at first, but that's what causes bikes to creak. It also causes bearings to bind more than necessary, etc. Worst case scenario is splitting or distorting a headtube. Even major brand frames should be prepped when assembled at a shop.

    Hell, my headset alone costs the same as the tool they're missing. They could buy it for $116.99 with free shipping.
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    (Assuming they at least have the facing tool already)

    What i'm getting at is that this has nothing to do with the Nimble 9 frame and everything to do with a lazy, improperly equipped shop. I thought about using even more condemning language but will leave it at that.

    (Edit: Bolded the above because it seems like I've contributed to derailing this thread and am hoping to get back on topic)

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    [QUOTE=dfiler;10498696]
    What i'm getting at is that .......

    Absolutely. I need the inspiration.
    Please post those Builds!

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    And to change the subject to a happier note...

    I just successfully slid the rear wheel all the way forward with my SS setup! 16.25 chainstay length has been found!



    The chain is way tighter then I like to run - it's almost "BMX"-tight. And this is on a somewhat worn rear cog and chain, and new front chainring, so this should hopefully slacken out perfectly.

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    32x17!

    Good thing it worked - that was my last chain, and I was going back and forth on breaking it for a bit.

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    That's cool. I doubt I'll get all the way forward since I ride a 32x19 and 32x18, but even all the way back is still shorter than I'm on now so it will be a nice change.

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    I swapped all the components over today... Now if only I could ride it, damn wrist.

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    Oh yeah, that's 28x17 gearing. With a half link it would be nearly slammed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    I swapped all the components over today... Now if only I could ride it, damn wrist.

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    That is beautiful! I'm going to pull a bunch of the build images from this thread this week and add them to our customers build gallery:
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    Maybe I should take an in-focus photo with a real camera rather than a blurry rush job with my phone.

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    I'm still waiting on my brakes from Merlin Cycles in the UK. According to tracking they are in the states. Not sure the hold up unless it's something with customs. Been here since the 26th.

    I did get my headset installed. Seemed to go in with out much hassle which was good news. Everything else is ready and waiting to make the switch over from the diSSent so hopefully I'll get my build done this week and pics posted up.

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    Hey nub try entering the tracking number on the USPS web site, it may work it did for me. It may show them stopped at the clearing station - Jamaica NY IIRC. My brakes were stuck there nigh on a week.

    The last batch of stuff I got from them came via UPS and it flew through customs in a day.
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    BINGO!!!! It worked. Looks like it's in Cumberland, MD which is the last stop before hits my town for delivery. So I should have them tomorrow!!!!

    So, anyone able to give tips on cutting a carbon steerer? I don't want to pay out for the saw guide if I can avoid it since I'll likely only use it once. I figure a hack saw with as many teeth as I can get. 32T enough or should I look for something with more?

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    just use a recip saw and a demo blade........j/k. i've been waiting for good weather to take pics. i've got most finishing touches done to 'er 'n she's looking like a high dollar hooker, pics to come. i really want to cerakote my rims but not enough flow at the mo.

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    Re: The NEW Canfield Brothers Nimble 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    BINGO!!!! It worked. Looks like it's in Cumberland, MD which is the last stop before hits my town for delivery. So I should have them tomorrow!!!!

    So, anyone able to give tips on cutting a carbon steerer? I don't want to pay out for the saw guide if I can avoid it since I'll likely only use it once. I figure a hack saw with as many teeth as I can get. 32T enough or should I look for something with more?
    You don't use a hacksaw blade on carbon/graphite you use a grit blade.

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    I've watched some videos where they used a hack saw with high tooth count blades and it seemed to turn out just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpfitness View Post
    You don't use a hacksaw blade on carbon/graphite you use a grit blade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    I've watched some videos where they used a hack saw with high tooth count blades and it seemed to turn out just fine.
    Thats what I used on my road fork, I think I used a 40+ tpi blade, and I wrapped the steerer with scotch tape so that it wouldnt splinter. Also remember to wear a mask, carbon dust is horrible to breathe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riiz View Post
    Thats what I used on my road fork, I think I used a 40+ tpi blade, and I wrapped the steerer with scotch tape so that it wouldnt splinter. Also remember to wear a mask, carbon dust is horrible to breathe.
    Thanks. I'll be cutting it probably Thursday. I need to go to town for new blades.

    In the mean time, brakes came in today so I threw things together. Only took about 90 minutes. Only about 90% finished, just have some detail things to finish up. But here's a look at her to get an idea...first one posted up in PNW Green...


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    Very sharp! The PNW Green lends a classy look to that frame.

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    finally done, for the most part.
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    The NEW Canfield Brothers Nimble 9

    Almost there. Needs final touches .The NEW Canfield Brothers Nimble 9-imageuploadedbytapatalk1372902947.725641.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrinkle View Post
    finally done, for the most part.
    stunning!!!

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    The Nimble 9 replacement dropout. Our sample has arrived and we are currently in production! We hope to be shipping the replacements to the new N9 owners in about a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    stunning!!!
    thanks, have a red pro 2 coming along with a voodoo 500 fork. lets see how she rides rigid. can't wait to get that DO. are they going to require longer hose? i cut mine tight and don't really have it to give. looks like a possible 2"?

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    The rear hose does need to be longer. Mine is pretty tight right after moving it to the N2 frame. But I'm feeling lazy and will just run it as is for a while. If it rips apart during a crash... whatevs, it's only a rear brake.

    When it needs bleeding, that's when I'll get around to using a longer hydraulic line.

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    yeah i hear ya, but i just put the goodridge hoses on and don't feel like shelling out another $44 and my shitty brakes are a PITA to bleed. oh well at least i'll be able quickly take my wheel off.

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    SPAM pass- L matte Nimble 9, new in box

    NEW IN BOX 2013 Canfield Nimble 9 frame, large, matte black - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories

    I received my new N9, and it's a beaut. Unfortunately, the new frame doesn't quite meet my 100 mile racing needs. I spoke with Sean, and I'm selling this frame with their blessing. Canfield will offer the buyer the warranty as though they were the original purchaser.

    If I could afford to have a play bike, I wouldn't hesitate one second to keep this frame, but unfortunately I need to pay for a XXC bike...

    Save a few bucks, and help a guy out!

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    650b Nimble
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    Who will complain if I slip in a couple photos of a Gen 1? Nobody? OK.

    1x9, SRAM shifting Zee, 100mm Tower Pro, Hope X2 brakes front and rear, Chromag cockpit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sslos View Post
    NEW IN BOX 2013 Canfield Nimble 9 frame, large, matte black - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories

    I received my new N9, and it's a beaut. Unfortunately, the new frame doesn't quite meet my 100 mile racing needs. I spoke with Sean, and I'm selling this frame with their blessing. Canfield will offer the buyer the warranty as though they were the original purchaser.


    If I could afford to have a play bike, I wouldn't hesitate one second to keep this frame, but unfortunately I need to pay for a XXC bike...

    Save a few bucks, and help a guy out!

    Los
    What aspects don't you like about frame for 100 mile races/bikepacking? I am curious.
    I was happy/sad with the new frames design. Liked the standover for regular rides, but not for bikepacking gear.

    Just finished making these bags today with help from female parental unit!




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    The NEW Canfield Brothers Nimble 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron1017 View Post
    What aspects don't you like about frame for 100 mile races/bikepacking? I am curious.
    I was happy/sad with the new frames design. Liked the standover for regular rides, but not for bikepacking gear.

    Just finished making these bags today with help from female parental unit!
    The biggest issues were frame weight, seat post diameter, and second bottle placement. If it were a few pounds lighter, used a 27.2mm seat post, and had a seat tube bottle mount I'd be riding it.
    Sean at Canfield sympathizes with my dilemma- I love the geometry, but the new frame is definitely more all-mountain.

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    All Mountain 4sure... Skeggs killer and UCSC Dead Campers capable

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    Yeah, bottle placement sucks. Both do IMO. The one on the inside of the frame is too low for me and the other is not usable. I mean it is, but you can't reach it while riding, you have to switch out bottles when the closer on is empty. I do wish the frame was lighter. With the carbon fork I don't think my bike gained any weight over my diSSent with a suspension fork, but to think it could have been even lighter...but I love the frame. It rides so nice and handles even better. I can certainly live with those few little things. Hopefully Canfield will come out with the same frame in a different material or something similar. I'm not interested in the Yelli personally because I don't want to deal with vertical dropouts. Maybe a Yelli with N9 dropouts...that would be great.

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    Agree with you guys. Would have been happy with the gen 1 frame with a 44mm or tapered HT and beefed up heattube junction area.

    Selling the frame and getting a Carver 420 Ti has crossed my mind.
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    "1x9, SRAM shifting Zee, 100mm Tower Pro,"

    Love It!
    I'm running the same except X0 twist and a hack to the Zee, feels pretty good!

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    How you guys liking the cable routing? The rear brake routing looks kinda funny being down by the bb area like that.

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    cable routing. well now that i don't run a front der, i don't have to piggy back 2 cables to 1 mount. if i did i would be a lil irritated paying that $$$ for 1/2 the cable mounts. now that the rear brake is going on the outside of the rear triangle the lower mounts kinda look goofy. this is nit picking so take it for what its worth. on the other hand, i have cleared a couple 10' gaps with confidence. would have tried for bigger but landing wasn't all that and i had low pressures in my tires (17/19 tubes). i haven't jumped a bike like that in 23 yrs and it was a 20"bmx. she is obviously a big steed at an xl size, but after a couple jumps i found a rhythm. this bike is fast and responsive. i've let several people ride this, friends and strangers, and all of them have grins ear to ear when they return. so other than the cosmetic and trivial setbacks, this frame fvckin' rocks!!! now if i only had the funds for the clearanced "the one" frame. lol

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    Unboxed and unwrapped my 13' N9 Tuesday. That sparkle blue is def a cool color imho. The finish quality looked better than my Black Chrome Yelli, and the welds look very good too.

    Mounted up the Spesh Purg last night....and with a FD mounted the dropouts had to be slid back 3/4" for decend tire clearance. With no FD they could be pushed all the way forward. ( I am guessing that is why Canfield mounted up SB8's for the photo shoot, as those may be the only tires you can run with a FD and the dropouts pushed all the way forward. I don't think 99% of the N9's in use will ever utilize such a tire though. )

    I was adjusting my RD last night, and noticed that with the B-Screw backed all the way out, the top Jockey wheel was still 3/4" away from the cog. I am using a x9 long cage der with 12-36 XT cassette. Am I doing something wrong?

    Two things that were included with my Yelli, but not included with the N9 were an evelope with extra Canfield stickers, and a spare der hanger. Kinda butt hurt about that.

    We will see how she rides today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post

    Two things that were included with my Yelli, but not included with the N9 were an envelope with extra Canfield stickers, and a spare der hanger. Kinda butt hurt about that.
    There is no derailleur hanger on the Nimble 9.... its part of the dropout. The dropouts are completely custom and expensive to produce. Makes sense as to why they wouldn't include an extra.

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    Now that I think of it, carrying a backup dropout in the bag is going to be a challenge.

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    2013 Nimble 9 (Lg) in Matte Black

    Chub hub w/ 19T WI freewheel
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    Salsa Gordo rims
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    WI Eno cranks 32t chainring
    Tange 127mm SQ/T BB
    XT Hydros
    VooDoo Zombie 500 fork
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    Effortless turning, great climbing, and fast.





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    The Nimble 9 promo vid, by Northwest Periphery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopbreakindown View Post
    2013 Nimble 9 (Lg) in Matte Black

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    VooDoo Zombie 500 fork
    nice bike, i like the almost ninja scheme. i too have a voodoo 500 sitting here. i'll put it on after i hit up north MI this coming wkend. i am also looking at some wider rims currently i was going to see about rabbit holes but im already expecting they won't work out back. did you currently buy your gordo's and if so where did you find them? i'm guessing a secret stash. last ? is how are you liking the VD 500? lol sounds like the ultimate STD

    nice promo, bros

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrinkle View Post
    nice bike, i like the almost ninja scheme. i too have a voodoo 500 sitting here. i'll put it on after i hit up north MI this coming wkend. i am also looking at some wider rims currently i was going to see about rabbit holes but im already expecting they won't work out back. did you currently buy your gordo's and if so where did you find them? i'm guessing a secret stash. last ? is how are you liking the VD 500? lol sounds like the ultimate STD

    nice promo, bros
    Thanks Fish,

    The Gordo wheelset was purchased a while back and have been collecting dust until this frame came along and decided to put them to use. The chub hub has a 54.5mm chainline so I used a 127mm square taper BB to line things up with the Eno stuff. The Gordos are set up tubeless w/ some Stans tape and fluid, the bead seated great the first try and is holding air.

    Just sprayed the Zombie fork flat black with a rattle can, looks even better now(will post up pics soon). The fork is a little flexy and heavy but puts the front at a good height and has plenty of room for a Knard.

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    thanks for the update.

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    Tried fitting my xtr m975 IS rear brake for a planned ride this wknd, and discovered that the pm to is adapter hits the frame. No IS rear brakes on the current dropout.

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    Anybody have issues pressing in their headsets? My top cup bearing binds a little bit when in place. Will be looking for a shop with a 44mm reamer since my shop doesn't have one.

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    44mm Headtube

    [/QUOTE=dubthang;10610333]Anybody have issues pressing in their headsets? My top cup bearing binds a little bit when in place. Will be looking for a shop with a 44mm reamer since my shop doesn't have one.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, my headtube was oval side to side on the top and front to back at the lower.
    Both bearings would not turn. After much time on the phone tyring to source a 44mm reamer, I finally found a machinist in my area who reamed the headtube by hand and machine tools.

    Just a FYI if a reamer is not available.
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    Kinda sucks you have to go to that trouble on such a pricey frame.

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    Yes, my headtube was oval side to side on the top and front to back at the lower.
    Both bearings would not turn. After much time on the phone tyring to source a 44mm reamer, I finally found a machinist in my area who reamed the headtube by hand and machine tools.

    Just a FYI if a reamer is not available.
    I believe that my lbs is actually going to order a 44mm reamer when the boss isn't looking. It's stupid for a shop to not have one since some many bikes have tapered headtubes now.

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    I know folks get tired of these questions, but I am looking at picking up a N9 and am stuck between sizes. I am 5'10 with a 32 inseam. Should I go Med or Large? A little bit extra, I have a Med Transition TransAM 29 and it feels a little tight. My Med Salsa Horsethief feels better, which has a (much) longer top tube. I plan on this being my aggro XC bike...will race it in some XC events and possibly some local Super D. It seems from past and current bikes I own a 23.5 - 24 in ETT length paired with a short stem feels about right.

    Any suggestions on sizing?

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    I too am in between L and XL. I went with an XL b/c I like short stems and it was a good decision to upsize as it feels perfect.

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    If anyone does need it and they are in colorado, we have the tools to ream a 44mm headtube at Full Service Bicycle.

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    Received the updated dropout in the mail yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdb_lmb View Post
    I know folks get tired of these questions, but I am looking at picking up a N9 and am stuck between sizes. I am 5'10 with a 32 inseam. Should I go Med or Large? A little bit extra, I have a Med Transition TransAM 29 and it feels a little tight. My Med Salsa Horsethief feels better, which has a (much) longer top tube. I plan on this being my aggro XC bike...will race it in some XC events and possibly some local Super D. It seems from past and current bikes I own a 23.5 - 24 in ETT length paired with a short stem feels about right.

    Any suggestions on sizing?
    I'm the same size you are and went with a Med and for my riding style the fit is really good. I prefer the feel of a smaller frame though, I'd rather have things a little tighter and have more room to move around the bike and not be too stretched out though so YMMV. I started off with wide 785mm bars and a 50mm stem but felt like my weight was just a little too far off the back to get the feel out of the front end I was looking for when things pointed downhill, switched the stem to a 65mm and it's pretty much dialed now. Put a dropper on there and the fun factor goes way up! It likes to be pushed hard but very playful, and feels just as good ripping the wide open fast sections as it does the tight and twisty bits.

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    Received the updated dropout in the mail yesterday.
    I got mine on Monday. Had to put a couple washers under the caliper (Hope M4) to keep it from rubbing the weld on the dropout. Bike has been solid so far.

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    I had to file a little off the top of my Magura Storm rotor because it was rubbing the Hope x2 brake.

    I took the bike out for it's maiden ride today, and like the feel of everything.

    The only thing that is going to be an issue is heel strikes on the chainstays. This might be a deal breaker for me. I waited for a long time to get this thing together, now my size 13 feet might prevent me from wanting to ride it much more.

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    My search skills suck, as I'm getting nothing about frame weight. Will anyone with a small or medium please chime in?

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    I didn't weigh my small Gen1, but if you're concerned about weight, this might not be the bike for you Mine rides light, if that matters, but I understand the Gen2 bike gained some weight..
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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    I didn't weigh my small Gen1, but if you're concerned about weight, this might not be the bike for you Mine rides light, if that matters, but I understand the Gen2 bike gained some weight..
    Thanks for the feedback. Actually I have a medium gen1 that I'm happy with weight wise and overall, but I'm on the hunt for a small gen1. Since they're hard to come by, I figured the Gen2 might be the next logical choice, but curious what the weight penalty would be.

    ...any chance you plan on letting your small gen 1 go any time soon?

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    blah, lil extra weight makes ya stronger! i fuggin love this bike so much i almost did naughty things w/ 'er. on a serious note though how much chain tension should i have now that i converted to ss? i wanna keep the DO slammed.

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    My gen 2 build weighs ~1.5# more than my gen 1 build. All the parts are mostly the same except for a tapered Niner fork, and bigger Niner carbon post with bigger seat tube collar, and CK headset. The new frame is heavier by at least a pound.

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    Thanks fellas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenaustin View Post
    ...any chance you plan on letting your small gen 1 go any time soon?
    Never. It's one of two bikes I've got that will be sold by my estate
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubthang View Post
    My gen 2 build weighs ~1.5# more than my gen 1 build. All the parts are mostly the same except for a tapered Niner fork, and bigger Niner carbon post with bigger seat tube collar, and CK headset. The new frame is heavier by at least a pound.
    Yep, that's exactly why I sold version 1 and bought version 2. It is stiffer and takes a tapered fork which is also stiffer. This makes it more suited to my type of riding. Version 1 flexed a scary amount when really pushed. It was probably fine but I feel more comfortable muscling the new one through rough stuff and crooked landings.

    Typical XC riders might prefer the first version though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    Never. It's one of two bikes I've got that will be sold by my estate
    No surprise there! So what's the second bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrinkle View Post
    blah, lil extra weight makes ya stronger!
    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    Typical XC riders might prefer the first version though.
    This is exactly the reasoning for the weight concerns between the two generations. My N9 gen 1 SS rigid serves the XC duties, while my long travel Honzo serves the "all mountain" duties. I'd consider the gen2 to replace the Honzo, but I think it would be a little much to replace the gen1 for XC duties. Oh well, a gen 1 small is bound to pop at some point. I can certainly live with my med for now.

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    I didn't want to get a gen 2, but am happy with it now. It rides better than my gen 1; much more rocket like. My gen 1 developed some severe cracks at the head tube so I was able to replace it under warranty.

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    Nearly sold on building up one of these to replace my old 26" hardtail. Just a couple questions:

    1. Sizing. I'm 5'7", which would normally put me square in the middle of medium territory, However, I have short legs (barely 30" inseam) and a longer torso than average. My current bike is a medium, but it definitely feels a bit on the small side at times, even with the seat pushed all the way back and a 130(!)mm stem. However, that assessment is further complicated by the fact that the geometry is f'ed up due to my bike-ignorant self replacing the stock 66mm fork with a 120 around 4 years ago. So, medium or large? I'm thinking medium, but some input would be nice.

    2. Stem/bars. I'm currently running a 130mm stem with 600mm bars, which definitely seems like it would be too long/narrow for this bike. I was thinking of going with 70/680 for the N9, which is a pretty big difference for me, but it looks like most of you are running even shorter stems and wider bars. Should I go completely off the deep end and get something like 60/730, or will 70/680 still be effective?

    3. Setback seatpost. Yes or no?

    4. I was looking at building it with the SLX group that Merlin Cycles sells. I know I'll have to swap out the FD for a direct mount (they only have the conventional model), but is there anything else in there that won't work? I saw something in here about IS-mount rear brakes not working with the old dropouts, and the rear brake in the kit is IS, not post. Is that fixed with the new dropouts, or will I still need a different rear brake?

    Looking forward to joining the club!

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    1. Medium all the way.
    2. 70 stem with a 720 bar.
    3. Yes. It doesn't have to be an actual layback post, just one with an offset head.
    4. No idea.

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    I too recommend a medium with 70mm stem and 720 bars. If you end up wanting narrower, just cut the bars. Give it a couple weeks with wide bars before cutting though. They really do pair well with a shorter stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coleam View Post
    Nearly sold on building up one of these to replace my old 26" hardtail. Just a couple questions:

    1. Sizing. I'm 5'7", which would normally put me square in the middle of medium territory,
    Not sure who puts a person your size on a medium sized frame, but OK. Everybody's shaped differently.

    Me, I say go small. This isn't an XC bike you want to stretch out on. I'm about 5'9" on a Small Gen1 with a 70mm stem and 730mm bars, with a zero-offset post.

    Look at it another way - what's the effective top tube length on your current bike? Start shopping at that length.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    what's the effective top tube length on your current bike? Start shopping at that length.
    That could be a great starting point, maybe paying attention to the seat tube angle too... or if you can find, or measure, the Reach measurement of the current bike...

    Having a long torso and short legs (or the opposite) can put some twists into sizing.
    I think the Nimble 9 should be sized for a short stem.

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    +1 on running the N9 w/ short stem and wide bars. i just upped it from 29" to 31" bars. have to dance a lil on some parts of the trails but its worth it

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    Thanks for the replies!

    Current bike measurements (as best I could):
    ETT: 22.5"
    ST: 17.5"
    Reach (to center of head tube: 15.5"
    Reach (with stem): 20.5"
    STA: ~61 degrees (very rough measurement)

    I can post some pictures if that would give you a better idea.

    Basically, it looks like (apart from the seat tube length), the numbers on my bike are fairly similar to the small N9. It definitely doesn't fit quite right though, and my gut feeling is that it's too small. I've based that feeling off the fact that I often feel cramped in the cockpit (hitting knees on arms and top tube, back pain on smoother trails where I spend more time stretched out), but I suppose it could be the long stem and narrow, flat bars that are screwing me up. Maybe I'll try picking up a shorter stem and some wider riser bars before I decide what size to get. See if that improves the fit at all.

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    Personally, I like a longer top tube. I stand a lot when I ride (ss,) and run a rigid fork. If the bar is too close to me, and I hit a rock, root, whatever; I feel more prone to being thrown over the bars (or knees into bar or stem.) I used to ride smaller frames when I was on a 26er, but really enjoy the extra cockpit room of a long tt on a 29er.

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    I'm 5'8" and happy on a medium Yelli (same geo as the N9 I believe).

    Re bars, 720mm is not wide, go wider than that to start with, say 750mm, and cut down if you don't like it.

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    Re: bars, I don't think I can go much wider than 700mm due to tree clearance in a couple spots. I know one of the guys I ride with said he's always clipping his bars in one particular spot, and I'm pretty sure he's running 750mm bars. I'll definitely give 720 a shot though. And as far as I'm concerned, that's wide - they're 12cm wider than the bars I have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coleam View Post
    Re: bars, I don't think I can go much wider than 700mm due to tree clearance in a couple spots. I know one of the guys I ride with said he's always clipping his bars in one particular spot, and I'm pretty sure he's running 750mm bars. I'll definitely give 720 a shot though. And as far as I'm concerned, that's wide - they're 12cm wider than the bars I have now.
    I wouldn't let a single tree dictate my bar widths. That's just personal preference. But it seems weird to lesson the performance of the bike everywhere in order to get by a few tight spots. If it isn't happening already, it is likely that your local trails will soon be made to accommodate modern mountain bikes.

    You may find out that while the wide bars limit speed in a tight spots, they open up possibilities elsewhere that you never knew existed. That's kind of the point of the nimble9. Slack angle, short stays, wide bars and short stem allow riders to enjoy the full possibilities of an all-mountain/xc hardtail. Instead of slowing for a drop-off into a rocky section, just plow on through with a monster truck that behaves like a surgeon's scalpel. Wide bars allow you to remain in full control when the trail gets nasty... without slowing down.

    Report back with how it works out for you. It's always interesting to hear fresh views on the evolution of bike setup.

    Edit:

    I tried 800mm bars on my jedi this weekend. It was a noticeable improvement. Now the 740mm bars on my nimble 9 are going to seem narrow.

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    You're both right. I put 711 mm bars on my Yelli last month to do a race in tight woodland. There wasn't just one tight spot, there were several. I didn't like it much though.

    These were "natural" woodland trails in the UK, they're not going to be optimised to suit a few riders with wider bars, and a good thing too, it's for us to adapt to the terrain in this case not vice versa.

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    My cousin and myself out for a pretty fun ride.

    But I might need to send my camera in for adjustment.
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/29944909@N03/9667045715/" title="004 by jonshonda187, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2891/9667045715_e05e70f2e4_c.jpg" width="800" height="652" alt="004"></a>

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    Current build. Will be changing the crank setup soon.

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    Hello everyone, I would like to introduce Trixie.


    Frame: Nimble 9 Large Sparkle Blue
    Fork: Manitou Tower PRO 120mm 15TA Tapered
    Headset: CaneCreek 40 Series
    Crank: Shimano Saint
    Pedals: Shimano SPD
    Bottom Bracket: Shimano (knock on wood)
    Cassette: Shimano Xt
    Drivetrain: Sram X9
    Chain: KMC X10
    Brakes: Hope EVO M4 front, EVO X2 rear 203f/180r
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    Seat: Selle Smp PRO
    Seatpost Clamp: Salsa
    Stem: 70mm Tester
    Handlebar: 730mm Tester
    Wheels: Chris King ISO Laced To FLOW EX
    Tires: Specialized Purgatory 2.4/Fast Trak 2.2

    She was a little shy at first.

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    But then she started to open up.

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    Work It!

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    How about a close up?

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    And a few from behind?

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    The NEW Canfield Brothers Nimble 9

    Has anyone had an issue with the head tube recently? How prevalent do we think this is? I know Canfield reads these boards pretty regularly, so I bet they've done some QC. I might be obsessing about purchasing a frame, but I like to call it detailed research. Comparing lots of options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Map204 View Post
    Has anyone had an issue with the head tube recently? How prevalent do we think this is? I know Canfield reads these boards pretty regularly, so I bet they've done some QC. I might be obsessing about purchasing a frame, but I like to call it detailed research. Comparing lots of options.
    Mine is a bit rough on the upper front starting about a cm down, but it seems like the shape is fine and the diameter is wide enough. Not sure if the roughness will require smoothing or not - it's not a burr or anything.

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    The NEW Canfield Brothers Nimble 9

    Quote Originally Posted by coleam View Post
    Mine is a bit rough on the upper front starting about a cm down, but it seems like the shape is fine and the diameter is wide enough. Not sure if the roughness will require smoothing or not - it's not a burr or anything.
    So it sounds like they took care of it.
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    I took delivery of one of the first models. I did not have any problems with my headset install (brand new Chris King). I even used a ghetto tool (long, threaded rod with washers/nuts).

    I think this was something that a handful of people experienced here, especially on some of the chrome models.

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    I had issues, and I received my frame in July. Bottom cup went in smooth, but the top one experienced binding. This was on a CK headset.

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    Got my chrome last wk of June and had probs with the upper cup. Lost a thumb nail to it, lol. Thing is still nasty looking. Oh it's a CC headset

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    I noticed this on the site..

    *Loosening of the brake mounting hardware is required to instal or remove the rear wheel. We are producing new dropouts to correct this and should be available around 8/15/13."

    Anyone seen / used them yet?
    (Sorry if repost could not find it)

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    Everyone should have received the new dropout by now. I got one automatically by mail but haven't bothered to swap it in. The original dropout looks cool and I haven't flatted this year so it isn't a priority.

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    A few other people have mentioned getting them, and all new frames are shipping with both sets of dropouts. All they do is shift the brake mounting point from the chainstay to the seatstay. The older dropouts give a cleaner look, but the newer ones are more convenient.

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    still waiting on my DO.

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    I have the new mount, works like a charm. Had mounting issues with a Hope Evo X2 brake, no longer an issue with the new drop out.

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    I have a new mount. I needed to use a couple of washers to keep my Hope M4's off the dropout/seatstay weld.

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    how long ago did you guys receive your DO's?

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    fishwrinkle - Shoot an e-mail to us if you haven't received your dropout. Everyone should have them by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    Hello everyone, I would like to introduce Trixie.

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    Just shelled out for the mean greenie...Keep you guys posted!
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    Glow in the dark N9

    The Sparkle Blue N9 in all its GLOW IN THE DARK glory! We now have this color in the Nimble 9, Yelli Screamy and our DJ. Image by Boone Richardson.
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    Yo KillingtonVT, I just purchased the green N9 and also a set of your 29 wheels. Did I read the description correct, 120 POE!? Have you guys had much time on them, do they hold up fairly well? I was going to build up some Hadleys I had laying around but saw this wheelset and had to jump on them considering the price. Also the rims, have you tried setting them up tubeless, if so, how'd that work? Be slapping on some Ardent EXO's. Cheers....SLAP
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