Out of box, does the nimble 9 come with both gear and SS dropouts?
The email response I received is that there is not a single speed specific drop-out at this time. However it wasn't stated that there won't be one at some point in the future. I'm considering hacking mine with a dremel.
What is the max tooth count for a chainring in the middle position on this frame? Is it the same as the Yelli, 32t? I am thinking about getting an XX1 crank down the line for easy chainring swapping. The idea of picking between 28, 32 and 36 depending terrain seems like a great options. If it is limited I will stick with my SLX.
No SS dropout will keep me from buying one of these awesome looking frames. The porky 6.5 pounds doesn't help either, but I can deal with that. No SS however is unforgivable. Maybe once that gets sorted out I'll give this thing another look.
Yeah isn't a SS dropout the same as what comes with the frame minus the hangar? What does a SS specific dropout get you asides from aesthetics and weight "savings"?
No SS dropout will keep me from buying one of these awesome looking frames. The porky 6.5 pounds doesn't help either, but I can deal with that. No SS however is unforgivable. Maybe once that gets sorted out I'll give this thing another look.
To each their own. Lots of frames out there without that little piece of extra metal. Some even come in shit brown like the Honza! I fell in love and dropped the cash because of the lines. What can I say - I'm a sucker for pretty things. Plus, I like the option of a quickie swap to a 5 spd for those longer epics.
Picky...
... take the extra section of the dropout off with a hacksaw and smooth it with a file.
Again, for $750, I shouldn't have to hack anything with a hacksaw and smooth it with a file to make it fit my application. I ride SS. I want SS dropouts. Yeah, derailleur dropouts will work. But that's not what I want and for the price, I should be able to get what I want. When Canfield comes out with SS dropouts, I'll strongly consider the frame. I'm sure Canfield doesn't care about me and my wants and could care even less if I buy one of their frames. There's probably plenty of people waiting in line for one already. I'm nobody special, but it's my money so if I don't get what I want in a product I'm not spending my cash.
Yeah isn't a SS dropout the same as what comes with the frame minus the hangar? What does a SS specific dropout get you asides from aesthetics and weight "savings"?
Nothing. But it's what I want. The frame is so heavy, the grams saved don't matter. The looks don't matter that much. It's just that for the money, I think that the option should be available. Sure, it's nitpicking on my part, but it's my money and for me, $750 is a lot of money.
I am kind of disappointed also. The last gen had both gear and ss drop out. Why new nimble 9 cost $100 more and does not come with ss drop out. Not even available to buy seperate!
Again, for $750, I shouldn't have to hack anything with a hacksaw and smooth it with a file to make it fit my application.
The Ferrari 459 isn't really meant for hauling around mountain bikes, should I head over to FerrariChat.com and complain? I guess I *could* take a welder to it. For $342,702.00 it ought to work for me!
The Ferrari 459 isn't really meant for hauling around mountain bikes, should I head over to FerrariChat.com and complain? I guess I *could* take a welder to it. For $342,702.00 it ought to work for me!
You should head over to FerrariChat and spend a little more in the Noob section. There is no 459 Ferrari, more like 458, and your sticker price is about 30% inflated as well.
Honestly I am *little* disappointed that there is not a SS slider, but not enough to make me upset or regret buying one. Maybe they'll be available later, maybe I'll buy a spare one and hack off the hanger. I just want to ride the freakin thing, not stare at it. Sheesh.
You should head over to FerrariChat and spend a little more in the Noob section. There is no 459 Ferrari, more like 458, and your sticker price is about 30% inflated as well.
But nice try.
Typo son. And if you knew anything about Ferraris you would know that they typically sell for more than MSRP off the showroom floor.
I'd love to see a picture (I know matte black isnt hard to imagine) still would like a picture as it would be the color I'd go with. I'm sure you guys are slammed with preorders but I'd sure appreciate it
Again, for $750, I shouldn't have to hack anything with a hacksaw and smooth it with a file to make it fit my application. I ride SS. I want SS dropouts. Yeah, derailleur dropouts will work. But that's not what I want and for the price, I should be able to get what I want. When Canfield comes out with SS dropouts, I'll strongly consider the frame. I'm sure Canfield doesn't care about me and my wants and could care even less if I buy one of their frames. There's probably plenty of people waiting in line for one already. I'm nobody special, but it's my money so if I don't get what I want in a product I'm not spending my cash.
If I had the cash to spare, I'd probably get one and run it SS.
Now I'm just waiting to see other people's builds.
Is anyone planning to try it rigid?
I might eventually put a stiffee on mine. However, after riding New England trails for the past year on a double-steel-stiffee, my hands and shoulders have sent complaints to the brain-dept and I'm going with a front squish. Reba 100mm with a lock-out is the plan.
I'd love to see a picture (I know matte black isnt hard to imagine) still would like a picture as it would be the color I'd go with. I'm sure you guys are slammed with preorders but I'd sure appreciate it
The frames are still in customs. As soon as they arrive I will shoot all the colors and post them up for you as promised!
With all the replies over the last few days in regards to SS dropouts, I figured I'd chime in on the topic. When we went into production on the new N9, we spoke about all the different dropout options we could build for this bike. The issue really is, as we designed a fully custom dropout system for this bike, the dropouts are REALLY expensive. We looked at what we invested in SS dropouts for the original N9, compared to the few that we sold and unfortunately we could not justify doing additional dropout options at this point. We are a small rider owned company that can not just absorb the cost of things like this and write them off. We are four people that live, breath, sweat and eat to give our customers the best products we possibly can.
As far as the comment from Nubster - “I'm sure Canfield doesn't care about me and my wants and could care even less if I buy one of their frames.“ I start and end everyday reading every post on this forum, to make sure we are always in the loop with our customer base and address any issues when needed. We care a great deal about our current and potential customers and I would hope our reputation shows that. The end of the day we know not every one of our products can meet the needs of 100% of our customers and I’m sorry if your feel that were excluded on the new Nimble 9.
How bout everyone that pre-ordered a frame gets one of those sharp seat post clamps included. Damn customs! there're no drugs or fire arms in the containers, just frames.
Folks regarding SS dropouts, I'm running a Yelli Screamy SS using a Surly Singulator (sprung tensioner that sits in the derailleur hanger). It works fine and I even think a little variable spring tension in the cadence cycle is no bad thing.
I wouldn't let drop out availability stop me buying an N9 for SS. (Shipping and taxes to the UK would stop me but that's a different issue).
(I write this as someone who's had 3 bikes with EBBs. I resisted the idea of a hanging tensioner, but really when you're riding it's no biggie at all).
Folks regarding SS dropouts, I'm running a Yelli Screamy SS using a Surly Singulator (sprung tensioner that sits in the derailleur hanger). It works fine and I even think a little variable spring tension in the cadence cycle is no bad thing.
I wouldn't let drop out availability stop me buying an N9 for SS. (Shipping and taxes to the UK would stop me but that's a different issue).
(I write this as someone who's had 3 bikes with EBBs. I resisted the idea of a hanging tensioner, but really when you're riding it's no biggie at all).
The N9 has sliding dropouts - which in my mind equals 1 of 2 things:
1. The ability to alter wheelbase for geared riders OR
2. The ability to run SS without tensioners, etc.
The second makes me call it a fully functional single speed frame, which is exactly what I need. There was just one guy who was bent out of shape that the sliding dropouts are designed with a derailleur hanger. And I guess because it has a derailleur hanger, it doesn't fully qualify as a single speed frame. This little piece of additional threaded metal is apparently against UCI Single-Speed category rules and is cause for an ass-kicking at hipster fixie parties.
looking sweet so far. thats a sexy girl for sure. i love the zee drivetrain, functional, durable, & best yet, affordable. i agree with wuzilla, i hate you now at the moment.
Nothing. But it's what I want. The frame is so heavy, the grams saved don't matter. The looks don't matter that much. It's just that for the money, I think that the option should be available. Sure, it's nitpicking on my part, but it's my money and for me, $750 is a lot of money.
I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't let it get in the way of the great ride quality and geometry. I've been riding my one-speed N9, with the derailleur hanger-equipped slider, for almost 2 years. hasn't bothered me one bit. $750 is a lot of money, but for a small bike company with innovative geometry and some unusual features, I think it's worth it.
Originally Posted by chuckml97
I am kind of disappointed also. The last gen had both gear and ss drop out. Why new nimble 9 cost $100 more and does not come with ss drop out. Not even available to buy seperate!
The new frame costs more due to a few things: hydroforming tubes costs more than using off-the-shelf round tubes, speccing custom sliders instead of off-the-shelf Paragon copies costs a lot more, and finally, production costs tend to increase over time.
I'm not telling anyone to buy something they don't want. If you are set on not buying this frame 'cause it's not 100% what you want, I can respect that. It's just that, in my opinion, these guys produce such a great riding frame that you might want to be a bit more flexible.
I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't let it get in the way of the great ride quality and geometry. I've been riding my one-speed N9, with the derailleur hanger-equipped slider, for almost 2 years. hasn't bothered me one bit. $750 is a lot of money, but for a small bike company with innovative geometry and some unusual features, I think it's worth it.
The new frame costs more due to a few things: hydroforming tubes costs more than using off-the-shelf round tubes, speccing custom sliders instead of off-the-shelf Paragon copies costs a lot more, and finally, production costs tend to increase over time.
If I got the frame I'm sure it wouldn't really bother me either. Like I said, it's just me being nitpicky over an aesthetics issue. But for a frame that will cost me over $800 I think I have the right to be a little critical. If I could sell my John Henry, I'd probably get the frame despite my issues with it. For now I have to decide whether to spend $569 on a new replacement diSSent frame or pony up the $805 for the N9.
There's probably plenty of people waiting in line for one already. I'm nobody special, but it's my money so if I don't get what I want in a product I'm not spending my cash.
Originally Posted by Nubster
If I could sell my John Henry, I'd probably get the frame despite my issues with it. For now I have to decide whether to spend $569 on a new replacement diSSent frame or pony up the $805 for the N9.
Yeah, call me a ranting indecisive dumbass. Even though it bugs me to no end there's not a SS dropout option, the frame is just to damn sexy to not want.
I hate the look of tensioners and the EBBs that i can get for the Yelli were waaayyy too much money. Solution - Voila!
Originally Posted by ghetto
Folks regarding SS dropouts, I'm running a Yelli Screamy SS using a Surly Singulator (sprung tensioner that sits in the derailleur hanger). It works fine and I even think a little variable spring tension in the cadence cycle is no bad thing.
I wouldn't let drop out availability stop me buying an N9 for SS. (Shipping and taxes to the UK would stop me but that's a different issue).
(I write this as someone who's had 3 bikes with EBBs. I resisted the idea of a hanging tensioner, but really when you're riding it's no biggie at all).
You do realize that all of our frames are stuck in customs, right?
Mods: please pull down these photos and ban posts from this guy for at least another week.
Originally Posted by fishwrinkle
looking sweet so far. thats a sexy girl for sure. i love the zee drivetrain, functional, durable, & best yet, affordable. i agree with wuzilla, i hate you now at the moment.
It's not often we get anything first in New Zealand.
I'm just making the most of it.
Sorry.
Actually not really...
On thinking about it I think I'd sooner run a tensioner than extend the virtual chainstay to any meaningful degree, just for the sake of chain tensioning. Short CS is half the key to the Yelli's handling for me.
Bikes do look better without tensioners though, certainly.
After a long day on Friday, the frames are sitting in the warehouse!!! Seeing as how Sean has been spending his weekend printing out UPS labels, I figured I do a quick shoot to post up the color shots that everyone has been asking for! ENJOY!
Alrighty then, I have to cross the line to pick some "paraphernalia" from Ship Happens in the next week or two. I'd love to spend a couple of hour's putting it through it's pace's if possible. Is that a 50mm stem?
Alrighty then, I have to cross the line to pick some "paraphernalia" from Ship Happens in the next week or two. I'd love to spend a couple of hour's putting it through it's pace's if possible. Is that a 50mm stem?
Folks I'm a happy Yelli Screamy rider, what benefits would switching to an N9 bring? (They do look nice, can't deny I'm tempted).
I know I can SS it, but I run my Yelli SS with a Singulator and it works fine, in fact I wouldn't want to extend the virtual chainstays of an N9 via the sliding dropouts if it chips away at that lovely handling at all.
What else does the N9 bring? Steel ping? (Or is that built out by it being made strong?).
I'm in UK, getting a demo isn't viable, and they come out pretty expensive after shipping and import taxes. Try-before-you-buy isn't viable really.
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Folks I'm a happy Yelli Screamy rider, what benefits would switching to an N9 bring? (They do look nice, can't deny I'm tempted).
I know I can SS it, but I run my Yelli SS with a Singulator and it works fine, in fact I wouldn't want to extend the virtual chainstays of an N9 via the sliding dropouts if it chips away at that lovely handling at all.
What else does the N9 bring? Steel ping? (Or is that built out by it being made strong?).
I'm in UK, getting a demo isn't viable, and they come out pretty expensive after shipping and import taxes. Try-before-you-buy isn't viable really.
Other than being great for singlespeed, it also allows adjustable chainstay length if you really want to tweak the geometry. Some people don't want the shortest CS possible or might need to change the CS length for various size tires when running as slammed as possible.
The first N9 version was also quite flexy as compared to the yeli. Some people prefer the stiffest frame possible while others like the flex of steel. The new N9 is heavier so I suspect the difference will be less.
What else does the N9 bring? Steel ping? (Or is that built out by it being made strong?).
No ping on the Gen 1, it's generic tubing AFAIK. I tend to check that too, my WTB rings like a bell but a lot of bikes really don't.
Originally Posted by dfiler
The first N9 version was also quite flexy as compared to the yeli. Some people prefer the stiffest frame possible while others like the flex of steel. The new N9 is heavier so I suspect the difference will be less.
I've never been on a Yelli so I can't directly compare, but IMO the Gen 1 does flex some but in a good way. Also, the Gen 2 frame has hydroformed tubes, which makes it <strike>uglier</strike> stiffer.
Chasing bears through the woods drunk with a dull hatchet is strongly not advised
The Yelli is 16.7" chainstay while this newer version N9 has a short setting of 16.25 out to 17.1". So you can tweek the geo longer and quite a bit shorter than the Yelli. With large tires and a front derailleur you'll need to be back in the 16.7" range but with no front derailleur it can be slammed short.
Your not going to feel the normal flex you get from a steel frame (Original N9), this frame is quite a bit stiffer. My first ride on the frame felt very stiff yet damped like steel. The top tube shaping really stiffens up the front end twist you get from tugging on wide bars. Hoping to get another ride on it tonight.
pfft...uglier, bob? did you not wear a helmet last time you fell off your bike n bumped your head? thats a sexy b!tch right there. off topic, did you get that xx spring yet?
Looks great.
Thanks to the team at Canfield Brothers for creating such as awesome bike.
Build specs:
Frame- Medium Nimble 9
Fork- 2012 Revelation RCT3 (20mm axle) 120-140mm travel (I think it's at 130 at the moment)
Rims- Stans ARCH EX
Hubs- XTR
Tyres - Schwalbe Nobby Nics (never ridden these before)
Crankset - old XTR
Chainring- 32T E-thirteen guide ring
Chainguide- MRP 1x
Rear Der- Shimano Zee shadow plus
Cassette- XT 11-36
Pedals- Canfield Crampon Ultimates -AWESOME!!!
Stem- Chromag Ranger 50mm
Bar- Chromag Acute (730mm)
Brakes- 2008 XT
Seatpost- reverb
Saddle- Spesh phenom (looking for a new saddle for this bike)
Weight 28lbs 10oz (a little heavier than I had anticipated)
Nicely done ast! Since I have a tracking number, I guess you can post as many pics as you want now
sub-29 lbs - Not bad at all. Especially since that is hardly a weight weenie build. My non-weight-weenie single speed build should easily get below 25, which is perfectly respectable to me.
Any word on the next wave of frames being shipped out? Or are they just going out as ordered now? Just wondering, I ordered on Sunday and I'm super excited.
It's funny how waiting the last several months wasn't too bad. But now that I have a tracking number I can barely stand to wait a week. I keep refreshing the UPS tracking site even knowing that nothing will change in just a few hours.
I ordered but don't have a tracking number yet. That's almost worse...lol...but once it posts, I'll be doing the same and cursing UPS for not getting it here soon enough.
Any word on the next wave of frames being shipped out? Or are they just going out as ordered now? Just wondering, I ordered on Sunday and I'm super excited.
Going out as ordered. All the pre-orders went out first and we will have the rest of the of them going on tomorrow! This was a HUGE shipment for us. Sean and I worked through the weekend to get things prepped and we are just about caught up now. STOKED!
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HOT DAMN!!!! Got my tracking number. Frame should be here on the 19th!!!! Seat post, seat post clamp, and headset arrived today. Now all I need is the frame. Soon as I get the headset pressed in, I'll be up and running lickety split!
Stayed late after work to build her up. I'll post some more picts tomorrow. The ride home was really fun, you can really pop the front wheel up which I'm not used to from other 29er bikes I've been on. Nimble is quite fitting!
Ardent 2.4 looks small in the whisky fork:
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What the hell? Ups still has mine at Bellingham store scanned 6/10. That's all the info available.
This happens sometimes when the UPS driver forgets to scan a package. Which is more likely when shipping from a UPS store and there are so many identical boxes going out! My alter-ego runs a big mailorder store, so I've seen this a few times - wouldn't worry too much just yet. How far are you from WA? You could be getting a present soon!
I have to wait till Monday. Stupid Boston being so far east
wuzilla, yeah i finally just received an expected arrival of monday. 1st time outta many shipments that i've had that happen. i'm in detroit, so 5 days out from WA. im stoked, now if i get my bits ill be all set. thanks for the heads up
I just assembled mine and I've been having problems with the rear brake calipers. I'm using 160mm Hayes v cut rotors with Shimano Deaore brakes and couldn't put the wheel in unless I put the calipers on afterwards and after I installed the brakes I couldn't remove the rear wheel unless I unscrewed the brakes first.
I used to have sliders before and never had this problem. I'm running it single speed by the way. Is anyone else having similar issues? It could have something to do with the drop outs facing or angled forward causing this problem.
I've had that caliper problem on a few other frames and solved it with a some washers.
My assumption was that it had to do with the switch to metric. Previously the industry was standardized on 6, 7 and 8 inch rotors. This was usually stated as 165, 185 and 203 mm. But those numbers weren't even enough so a few years ago everyone switched to 160, 180 and 200 mm.
But you said 160mm rotor so maybe that isn't the reason here. It would be the problem with an older 165mm rotor and a newer 160mm dropout. Either way, washers usually solve the problem. Does that work for you?
Edit: oh yeah, my new n9 is scheduled for delivery on Monday in pittsburgh. I'd experiment when it arrives but have a busted right hand so one handed wrenching might prevent that. Strange coincidence, I had a broken wrist when my Jedi was delivered a couple years ago. Maybe I'll pay a friend in beer for assistance again.
I just assembled mine and I've been having problems with the rear brake calipers. I'm using 160mm Hayes v cut rotors with Shimano Deaore brakes and couldn't put the wheel in unless I put the calipers on afterwards and after I installed the brakes I couldn't remove the rear wheel unless I unscrewed the brakes first.
I used to have sliders before and never had this problem. I'm running it single speed by the way. Is anyone else having similar issues? It could have something to do with the drop outs facing or angled forward causing this problem.
Since I dont actually have my rear brake attached I dont have much input. On my Karate Monkey I had to remove the brake to remove the wheel so it's not completely unheard of.
Originally Posted by ast
Nice!
Is that matte black?
Yeah matte black with matte carbon fork. I really love all their paint colors. My first mountain bike was the same color as their orange. The chrome is killer too.
What's the fork? Chinese or name brand? I'd love a niner fork but $500 is a bit daunting. I lean towards it though because of the no weight limit claim.
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Originally Posted by chuckml97
Damn customs! there're no drugs or fire arms in the containers, just frames.
