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    My First-ever Build: Yelli Screamy

    Hey guys - new to the Canfield side of MTBR. Just wanted to say hello as I am sure I'll be asking for input and advice. I got into MTBing about a year ago after purchasing a Surly Krampus with the intention of riding a mix of trails and street in my area. I enjoy the Krampus, but I've been riding rocky, chunky, technical-ish single track A LOT more than I thought I would and the rigid fork is getting a little old.

    I love learning about bikes and how they work and tinkering with them, so after some thought and research, I decided I wanted to build my own bike from the frame up. I certainly don't know everything about building a bike, but am quickly finding out there's a whole ton of information out there and look forward to receiving input from all of you Canfield owners.

    Anyway, enter the Yelli Screamy... I ordered a Large Ano Black frame yesterday and am excited to receive it. Descents are where I struggle and I think this bike will help a lot with that while still being a good climber. It's going to be a long-ish build as the funds aren't endless right now, but that's ok.!

    Any input, tips, or advice is welcome as I get started.

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    just ordered a medium blue ano frame myself last week. I'm in the same boat as you...should be interesting!

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    Our stories are very similar. I started with a Trek Cobia and moved to the Yelli and built it from the frame up.

    My only suggestion is to make sure you have a crankset that is compatible with the Yelli frame. Due to the short chainstays some cranks have issues with the chainring clearance. I am running a Sram X9 with 32T MRP blingring and it barely clears.

    Building a bike is pretty straightforward is you have a little mechanical ability and as you mentioned, there is a wealth of information here as well as all around the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbd5600 View Post
    Our stories are very similar. I started with a Trek Cobia and moved to the Yelli and built it from the frame up.

    My only suggestion is to make sure you have a crankset that is compatible with the Yelli frame. Due to the short chainstays some cranks have issues with the chainring clearance. I am running a Sram X9 with 32T MRP blingring and it barely clears.

    Building a bike is pretty straightforward is you have a little mechanical ability and as you mentioned, there is a wealth of information here as well as all around the internet.
    I plan on buying everything new, so any and all suggestions around parts are welcome. I've been researching like a lunatic - there's sooooo much information out there.

    I took an initial swing at a parts list - for the crank I am thinking the Shimano Zee cranks (currently have them and they have taken a beating) with a RaceFace NW 30 or 32T ring.

    As far as the build goes... my only concern so far is pressing the headset since I don't have the tools available. I am also not sure if the bottom bracket is easy to install or not. May go to my LBS to have those done.

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    Pressing the headset was probably the most difficult part of the build for me. I made a tool of my own from some threaded rod and washers which worked, but it was difficult.

    As far as the bottom bracket goes, the cups just thread into the frame (one RH threads, one LH threads). You just need the correct bottom bracket tool to tighten them.

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    As this is your first build, I'd recommend having the shop install the headset and BB. If you plan on doing more full builds, it might be worth buying the tools, however a headset press is quite spendy and the threaded rod method is a little ghetto. Go to the shop, watch closely how they prep and install it and go from there. The bb is easy and the tool is cheep, just pay attention to which cup is right and which is left. Grease both before installing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike View Post
    As this is your first build, I'd recommend having the shop install the headset and BB. If you plan on doing more full builds, it might be worth buying the tools, however a headset press is quite spendy and the threaded rod method is a little ghetto. Go to the shop, watch closely how they prep and install it and go from there. The bb is easy and the tool is cheep, just pay attention to which cup is right and which is left. Grease both before installing.
    Your thoughts are right in line with mine. I feel confident that I can do the bottom bracket and the tool is cheap - I don't mind adding more tools to my box

    The headset is a bit daunting and I am not 100% comfortable rigging up something myself. Even if I was, I still don't think I would do it - guess I'm weird like that.

    I'm thinking of purchasing the next wave of parts as my frame arrives - seems logical (to me) to get all of 'tougher stuff' like the BB, cranks, and headset out of the way first. Would you guys recommend otherwise?

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    My First-ever Build: Yelli Screamy

    Oh, and for the headset I was going to go with a Cane Creek 40 unless someone can talk me into spending more and getting the 110.

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    110 is for looks. Check out enduro fork seals if you want a more reasonably priced fancy headset and BB.

    And yes it's a good idea to do the bb and headset first.

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    No reason a CC40 won't be sufficient though?

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    Cc40 is perfect. You want colors tho. Gotta go elsewhere

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    What can you guys tell me about chainring clearance on the Yelli? I have heard a 32T ring is tight but it'll fit. I've been debating on trying out a Wolftooth 30T ring instead.

    Not sure if I was clear or not but I'll be running 1x10.

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    Spiderless makes the chainline much tighter. With a spider crank the clearance isn't bad. With spiderless I can fit 30 or 28t bling ring all day. 32t spiderless will need some spacers but is totally possible.

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    I'm goin with cane creek 40 as well, it's a solid choice. Just purchased an x9 crank. I'm going to remove the spider and put a 30t bling ring I think...

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    I'm running a Wolftooth SDM 30t and it is a close fit. Only about a mm or two of clearance. Previously ran a 32t Bling Ring and MRP AMG, which was close as well.

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    So you're saying it'll fit?!?!

    Good to hear. Are you guys throwing any spacers on your BB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    So you're saying it'll fit?!?!

    Good to hear. Are you guys throwing any spacers on your BB?
    Yeah it definitely fits and gives a great chain line. I'm not using any spacers.

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    anyone have an opinion on brakes?

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    Shimano slx.

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    My First-ever Build: Yelli Screamy

    That's what I plan on going with.

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    sounds good. Thanks for the advice guys.

    Gouda, keep us posted. I will be slowly acquiring parts for my Yelli and will be curious to see what you get as well. My first frame build.

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    As far as brakes, I'm running XT and they have been flawless. Bleeding is a piece of cake. SLX are practically the exact same, and I would go with them in a heartbeat as well. For the rotors, I have 180 up front and 160 in the rear. I have never felt like I needed more stopping power.

    Thought about forks at all?

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    My First-ever Build: Yelli Screamy

    I'm thinking Revelation 140 for mine. There are a few RCTs floating around online for cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDM88 View Post
    sounds good. Thanks for the advice guys.

    Gouda, keep us posted. I will be slowly acquiring parts for my Yelli and will be curious to see what you get as well. My first frame build.
    I'll try to post my updates in this thread - wish I could post quick updates... but my build is gonna be slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    I'll try to post my updates in this thread - wish I could post quick updates... but my build is gonna be slow.
    Trust me, your not alone...took me awhile just to purchase the frame...it's gonna be a while before my yelli will be ridden...luckily I have another bike to ride in the meantime.

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    As do I... It's just drastically different... and a rigid.

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    Advice needed: I've seen several Revelations floating around online for what I think to be decent prices. What I'm more curious about are the models... do you guys think I should go for the gusto and go with the RCT or is the RL or RLT sufficient for most?

    The one RCT I've seen at a killer price is actually a 2012 Dual Air model with a beefy 20mm thru axle. Not sure how desirable the dual air is anymore though...

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    Brake-related question: Looking at the SLX brakes @ blue sky as they sell the shimano adapter with the kit....but in the drop down there are several options....how do I know which one is needed?
    BlueSkyCycling.com - Shimano SLX M675 IceTech Disc Brake w/ Adapter

    Hope you don't mind me posting this on your thread Gouda...let me know if I'm intruding.

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    I could care less - this is good info for me too.

    As far as the brakes go... it looks like there's only one option for the rear brake so you should be good to go there. Worst case scenario is that you order the rear brake now and then pickup the adapter you need later. For the front brakes, you need to know what kind of mount you have on your fork - it's either IS (international standard) or post-mount. Do a quick search (or even a Google Image Search) and you'll immediately be able to tell which one you have... assuming you have a fork waiting and ready to install on your bike.

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    My build If you set up the crankset/bb right, a 32 or 34 should clear fine, just need to watch the chainline. It's been absolutely bulletproot and the only "issue" I've had was self inflicted... set up tires too soon before a ride, burped the tire and dinged the rim. It's a pretty good ding, but it's been holding a bead just fine over the last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHRANQUY View Post
    My build If you set up the crankset/bb right, a 32 or 34 should clear fine, just need to watch the chainline. It's been absolutely bulletproot and the only "issue" I've had was self inflicted... set up tires too soon before a ride, burped the tire and dinged the rim. It's a pretty good ding, but it's been holding a bead just fine over the last year.
    I was thinking of going with XT cranks now, removing the 2x10 crank setup and replacing it with a Wolftooth 32T. For some reason I like the looks of the XT cranks and they weigh a little less than the Zee setup. Only concern right now is setting up the chainline since the XT cranks are originally 2x and I'll be running them 1x.

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    Ordered the XT cranks (2x10 that I'll convert to a 1x) and a Cane Creek 40 headset for the tapered headtube / fork. Probably will order a Wolftooth 30T ring and bolts here soon.

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    Do you mind if I ask which Cane Creek 40 headset you got? Just want to make sure I get the right one for my upcoming build. Thanks.

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    Just ordered mine...zs44 upper and ec49 lower
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    Just ordered mine...zs44 upper and ec49 lower
    Same here. That's what you need if you're going to run a tapered steerer fork.

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    My First-ever Build: Yelli Screamy

    What do you guys think? Revelation or Pike? Only $100 price diff between the two I am looking at...

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    If u can spend the extra...pike is a sweet fork
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    My First-ever Build: Yelli Screamy

    What makes it that much better?

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    35mm stanchion = stiffer chassis and the damper is supposed to be a lot better. The Pike has been getting great reviews - not that there's anything wrong with the Revelation.
    No moss...

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    I was going to order from Merlin in the UK but now I'm hearing horror stories about ordering forks from them - not original packing, dust seals missing, and the steerer tube already being trimmed. Guess I'll have to buck up and pay within the states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    What do you guys think? Revelation or Pike? Only $100 price diff between the two I am looking at...
    Depends on the Pike model. The 2014 Pike (all black, black stanchions, Charger damper) is amazing. Older models (gold/silver stanchions, say PIKE on the side) aren't that great. If you can find a new model Pike for just $100 more than a Revelation, definitely go for it.

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    Right now the price diff is around $200. Still not bad...

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    Pike are advertised as an AM fork, while the Revelations are a trail fork....i would guess the Pike is meant to take more abuse...depends on what your doing with the yelli though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDM88 View Post
    Pike are advertised as an AM fork, while the Revelations are a trail fork....i would guess the Pike is meant to take more abuse...depends on what your doing with the yelli though.
    Abuse is a relative term, IMO. One man's abuse is another man's afternoon ride in the park.

    Given that I'm relatively lightweight when geared up and don't bash through things, I am sure the Rev would be fine. There's just something about the Pike that makes the decision tough though. Hard to explain...

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    Very true...I don't think you can go wrong with either fork....wish I had the money for one myself....still looking for a good deal on something as I'm gathering the rest of the components.
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    Almost forgot....look what showed up!
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    My First-ever Build: Yelli Screamy

    Love that color. Sort of makes me wish I got it. I played it safe with black.

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    The black ano looks great though...love the matte finish. I originally wanted the green ano, but they were oos in medium.
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    Both colors look very good. I originally wanted the blue but they were out in my size. Hoping they bring the color back for 2014 colors.

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