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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike View Post
    What you need is the chain ring that Middleburn offers that is direct mount, no spider. Chris and I both are running the middleburns with a 32 tooth ring and the micro guide. Fits great.
    Man that's exactly what I have.

    Problems I have :

    - Chainring rubs hard against the top guide when the guide is directly mount to the frame. Cranks clear both top and bottom guides.

    - With the spacers installed, chainline is great but the RS7's (164mm) rub both the top guide and jockey wheel.

    Just had a thought, maybe the BB(113mm) is too long?

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    Scratch that thought, shorter BB will only make the arms rub again.

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    can someone explain the 10 speed conversion cassette? does it require respacing of the 9 speed/capreo portion?

    does the hub take end caps (allowing 150 12mm to be made 150 qr)?

    many thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    can someone explain the 10 speed conversion cassette? does it require respacing of the 9 speed/capreo portion?

    does the hub take end caps (allowing 150 12mm to be made 150 qr)?

    many thanks.
    The Conversion cogs- are the lower 4 cogs needed to fit on to a 9t hub. They convert the following 10 speed cassettes:

    Sram 10 speed 11t-36t and 12t-36t.
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    PG-1070
    PG-1050
    PG-1030

    Shimano 10 speed cassettes- both 11t-36t and 11t-34t
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    XT M771
    SLX- HG81

    Just replace the lower 4 cogs with the conversion cogs to mount to a 9t hub-

    The 150 is not convertible to a QR- (not sure I know of a bike that is a 150 qr.)
    QR 135 is available.

    Also: We now have Shimano Capreo cassettes tools available for the lock ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cSquared View Post
    The 150 is not convertible to a QR- (not sure I know of a bike that is a 150 qr.)
    QR 135 is available.

    Also: We now have Shimano Capreo cassettes tools available for the lock ring.
    The 135 QR can be bought now? Your website doesn't list it as available. Also, what is the weight of the 135qr, or 135x12 version? Number of engagement points?

    Is is 32 spoke holes, right?

    The new Sram 1x11 with 10t as heaviest gear doesn't seem logical to me, i wonder if they will use the capreo style freehubs. (the limited edition specialized demo will have DT240 hubs with capreo freehub, seems market is accepting the low-teeth cogs)

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    anyone tried the Deity vendetta crankset with this setup?
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    Big, I run the RS-7....118 BB length....spacers behind the mount. I never got the 28t. Someone else tried the HB on the RS-7's and the ring was spaced out further then a 3rd ring on a triple, so I gave up and settled on the 30t. I wanted to the Sram cranks with the MRP ring but the only 165mm cranks that Sram makes are mega $$$$. No complaints so far.

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    many thanks c squared. i have a custom hardtail that takes a 150x10mm or qr rear hub...might be able to find a step down through axles. watched the video someone linked to of a breakdown of the hub which explains it all clearly!...its great canfield bringing this to the market...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike View Post
    We get them this week! YEA!!!!
    Watch for new pictures and weight, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike View Post
    We get them this week! YEA!!!!
    Watch for new pictures and weight, etc.
    You guys got em yet? I'm a watch'n and waiting, no new pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    You guys got em yet? I'm a watch'n and waiting, no new pics
    I just had a 142 show up on Monday. I will try to post pic later. Very sweet hub though I can not wait to put one on my new One.

    The 150 I have on my DH bike rocks!

    Btw hubs are lighter now due to a few upgrades.

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    I wish this hub is mine I got one for a good friend that is building a new wheel. My hub will be coming in a few weeks

    Thanks for the super fast shipping Sean! You rock brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supramk388 View Post
    I just had a 142 show up on Monday. I will try to post pic later. Very sweet hub though I can not wait to put one on my new One.

    The 150 I have on my DH bike rocks!

    Btw hubs are lighter now due to a few upgrades.

    EDIT:
    I wish this hub is mine I got one for a good friend that is building a new bike. My hub will be coming in a few weeks

    Thanks for the super fast shipping Sean! You rock brother.
    Now you guys are just bloody teasing! We want hubs, we want hubs, we want hubs, I want hubs, I want hubs!

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    Getting this guy built into a wheel tomorrow.



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    That looks really good. What size, can you get a weight?

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    size is 142x12, for the weight you'll have to wait. I don''t have a scale at home but I can weigh the wheel once it is built up.
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    Got the wheel last night. Built up with DT swiss double butted and a WTB i23, weight came out to 1020 grams.

    And sorry to be a tease but I also have the 10 speed conversion kit mounted up. Canfield Bros have truly thought this through. They put in some nice attention to detail and it bolted up super easy. I used six cogs from a PG-1050 cassette (lighter than the 1070 for some reason) and then the 4 cogs from the conversion kit. My gear range is 9-36. This is my first 1x setup so I wimped out with a 28t MRP bling ring. I am sure I will grow out of it, but we have some tough climbs and I like to take my time getting to the top.

    I have some pictures but... they are at home. I will try and get them up tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Got the wheel last night. Built up with DT swiss double butted and a WTB i23, weight came out to 1020 grams.

    And sorry to be a tease but I also have the 10 speed conversion kit mounted up. Canfield Bros have truly thought this through. They put in some nice attention to detail and it bolted up super easy. I used six cogs from a PG-1050 cassette (lighter than the 1070 for some reason) and then the 4 cogs from the conversion kit. My gear range is 9-36. This is my first 1x setup so I wimped out with a 28t MRP bling ring. I am sure I will grow out of it, but we have some tough climbs and I like to take my time getting to the top.

    I have some pictures but... they are at home. I will try and get them up tonight.
    That's a respectable weight for finish rear wheel. At a rough guess. I'd say the hub is around 330g +- 20/30grams.

    I'm going for a 28t Bling Ring as well, I'd do anything to keep a FD out of the equation. Hate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    That's a respectable weight for finish rear wheel. At a rough guess. I'd say the hub is around 330g +- 20/30grams.
    Around 340 g +/- 10 grams... very respectable for this type of hub.

    Other weight savings: No front D, front shifter and cable. Shorter chain as well in most apps. This set up gives you better clearance as well as we all know.

    I absolutely LOVE this set up on my 2012 Jedi (in 150mm) I can not wait to put a 142mm on my 2012 One!

    Thanks Chris and Lance again for being the first to bring this to market (production hubs) for us. Keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by supramk388 View Post
    Around 340 g +/- 10 grams... very respectable for this type of hub.

    Other weight savings: No front D, front shifter and cable. Shorter chain as well in most apps. This set up gives you better clearance as well as we all know.

    I absolutely LOVE this set up on my 2012 Jedi (in 150mm) I can not wait to put a 142mm on my 2012 One!

    Thanks Chris and Lance again for being the first to bring this to market (production hubs) for us. Keep up the good work!
    And when did you guys say it would be available.....?? I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place right now...

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    They are available right now. Get you some!

    Here are the pics I promised.

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    It's available?? If so, the bro's better update their site and I better send the Hope hub back for a refund.....

    Great pic's, good job. Now ride report

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    two rides so far. I am really digging the set up.

    send the Hope back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    It's available?? If so, the bro's better update their site and I better send the Hope hub back for a refund.....

    Great pic's, good job. Now ride report
    I have been able to put some miles on the set up and I am really digging it. The hub has great engagement for the technical riding we have around here. And I never think of the cassette, which means it is doing it's job! When I work up some more bike funds I am planning on buying the same set up again as a back up wheel. Maybe by then Canfield will have stock wheels built up with this hub and their new rims. (hint hint )







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    Nice! I just got my 28t bling yesterday, mounted and ridden today, I should have the Micro within a week or so. Pics to come.

    How's the Zee working out? Good to see a short cage 10 speed from Shimano.

    Oh, and nice bike....

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    The Zee is a solid derailleur at an awesome pricepoint. I don't anticipate trashing this one, but I will replace it with the same when it is time.
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    It's arrived!

    This is what was waiting at the doorstep when I arrived home this afternoon. At 340g's I'm pretty impressed with the weight. In comparison the Hope Evo that had was going to be a place holder weighed 310 grams and a Hadley has a claimed weight of 360 grams.

    The 80 gram conversion cluster is a smooth piece of machinery. It adapts securely with its adopted SLX family. For out of the box impressions I'm again impressed.

    It'll all be laced to a Mavic EN521 via DT double butted spokes tomorrow. It's been a long time waiting. The hub finally complement's the XO DH's sporting a 28t Bling ring and the Microguide. I'm over the moon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike View Post
    And Sram has removable spider cranks too. I have the X9 with a 28 tooth on my Nimble 9.
    That the non micro guide working with a 28? Thought they only went down to 32?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    It's Arrived!
    that's awesome man. the cogs are nicely made aren't they? have fun on your new set up!
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    Thanks Calhoun and bigcrs for showing us some pics... keep the ride reports coming! The 28/11-36 would be my choice so I'm interested to see how it goes. Fortunately/unfortunately I just got a proprietary wheelset I like (crossmax sx) so I don't think this will happen for me for a year or two unless mavic makes some kind of conversion.

    I'm kind of surprised more companies aren't making compatible pieces as this really seems like a step forward but I guess it's still pretty fringe at this point? Hopefully we see more along these lines at euro and interbike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I have been able to put some miles on the set up and I am really digging it.


    I got to check this setup out first-hand last weekend - Canfield has a very nice product with this one. Talk about anticipating market trends and setting the way - I could definitely see running this setup over the 35t 1x9 setup I have now.

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    now that middleburn stopped making the ISIS rs7 crank arms, what other cool options do we have to a 28t compatible crank?
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    Sram cranks, bmx cranks, middleburn with the x-type axle and i guess there are other options that I forgot

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    SRAM spiderless cranks & MRP's Blingring's.

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    gonna try Shimanos new XT cranks without the spider

    28t with 9-36 is just what the ONE is asking for
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    Are the XT's a current model and what ring manufacture (other than thief'n Homebrewed) provides a 28t for Shimano?

    And you'd want to be certain that a Shimano setup jives with MRPs Microguide.

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    why not go with the Homebrewed chainring?
    the XT is the latest model fc-m780
    i wouldnt care for a MRP microguide, i just cnc the chainguide myself and retrofit aftermarket bash and guide
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
    why not go with the Homebrewed chainring?
    Before you send any money to Homebrewed checkout the single speed forum. It'll shed a little light on HBC.

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    cool
    thank you for the advice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Before you send any money to Homebrewed checkout the single speed forum. It'll shed a little light on HBC.
    Agreed. Took me 4 months to get my 28 tooth from them. Great price but I wish they charged a little more to hire people. I would pay more if I did not have to wait months to get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
    gonna try Shimanos new XT cranks without the spider

    28t with 9-36 is just what the ONE is asking for
    Does the new model XT cranks have a removable spider? and if so, what kind of chainring would fit it, say, in a 28-32t to play along with the MRP micro guide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supramk388 View Post
    Agreed. Took me 4 months to get my 28 tooth from them. Great price but I wish they charged a little more to hire people. I would pay more if I did not have to wait months to get one.
    I placed an $65 order around late March, still waiting. No actually, I've given up, it makes my blood boil when I think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRage43 View Post
    Does the new model XT cranks have a removable spider? and if so, what kind of chainring would fit it, say, in a 28-32t to play along with the MRP micro guide?
    As is seems, yes, i still did not put my hands on the new xt crank but if you look closely at its pictures, seems all cranks slx and up excluding saing and zee have removable spiders
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    I placed an $65 order around late March, still waiting. No actually, I've given up, it makes my blood boil when I think about it.
    Check out their facebook page for more info, sounds like he's been dealing with some major stress related health issues to go along with some manufacturing problems. Apparently still under docs orders to not being working on the orders but is anyways to get them out. He said everything from August and earlier will be going out in the next week or so. Looking forward to the ring and bash I ordered back in the spring, I figured they were never coming at this point. Despite the delays and lack of contact I'm hoping for the best for the guy, sounds like a one man operation that got overwhelmed and then blew up in his face. Hopefully he bumps prices and reduces volume to come through it all, he made some mention of trying to streamline operations, outsourcing anodizing, and trying to make it work. Despite the delays and no contact it's tough to hate on a guy that was trying to make some cool, innovative products. Despite the headaches this time, I may even order again if he sorts it out.
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    I spoke to MRP this week and the 28t rings are back in stock!
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    I love my 28T Bling Ring but decided to pick up a 30T and found that MRP is backordered again till the end of Feb. I found a new option with North Shore Billet. They have 27T-36T in even and odd numbers except for 35T in stock. Just thought I'd let you guys know there's another option out there. I'll let you know how the quality is and how it compares to the MRP once I get it.

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    Interested to see what the chainline is like with those NSB rings, they list them as 48mm - which is fairly narrow. I like the graphics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpeppyx View Post
    I love my 28T Bling Ring but decided to pick up a 30T and found that MRP is backordered again till the end of Feb. I found a new option with North Shore Billet. They have 27T-36T in even and odd numbers except for 35T in stock. Just thought I'd let you guys know there's another option out there. I'll let you know how the quality is and how it compares to the MRP once I get it.

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    I've been keeping an eye on NSB for sometime, ever since they announced that they were going to do a spiderless ring. Pretty nice look'n, nice range to choose from.

    Wonder why they recommend the Lopes for a guide, especially for anything under 32t? Maybe it has something to with spacing.... The one they have pictured is a 29t w/Lopes guide.

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    Just ordered a 28T from NSB. Fingers crossed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by charging_rhinos View Post
    Just ordered a 28T from NSB. Fingers crossed!
    You gonna use that with Micro guide?

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    They only suggest a Lopes. I've got the Micro guide and I'll test it out with that. I've got the Lopes on my Yeti, but that's a BB mount so I can't test it with the One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    You gonna use that with Micro guide?
    I think so yeah. Depends on if any are in stock when I order, but i think it would be a pretty sweet setup.
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    Got my NSB 30T ring today. It's def. got a narrower chain line than the MRP. It took a bit of spacer work with the MRP Micro guide to get it setup up properly, but it didn't take too long. The quality and finish is really nice. It doesn't fit as snug as the MRP does to the crank mounting, but once you tighten the screws down it's not going anywhere.
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    I have the micro and 28t in hand.
    My XO DH 170 Cranks and CK BB are coming today.

    I'll mount and shoot later this week so others have info.

    Stoked!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpeppyx View Post
    I love my 28T Bling Ring but decided to pick up a 30T and found that MRP is backordered again till the end of Feb. I found a new option with North Shore Billet. They have 27T-36T in even and odd numbers except for 35T in stock. Just thought I'd let you guys know there's another option out there. I'll let you know how the quality is and how it compares to the MRP once I get it.

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    I also ordered a ring from NSB. I started out my 1x10 journey with a 28t Bling Ring (pictured a page or two back.) It really didn't take too long to outgrow that set-up. I bumped up to a 30t Bling Ring for the winter and quickly outgrew that too. Just last week I received my NSB 32t ring. The quality is right on par with the MRP rings, the color is way better though. The grey is cool, but black is bad-ass! The chainline with the NSB was a little more narrow, but I only had to remove one spacer (out of 3) from the back of my MRP microguide. I haven't put too many miles on it yet, but just like the MRP rings there has been no problem at all. Still loving the microdrive cassette too.

    Also, a while back my guide took a hit and the lower pulley broke off. I have been riding without that pulley for a couple months now and have had no drivetrain issues at all. The single ring coupled with a clutch derailleur is bomb-proof. And the drivetrain is so much quieter without that lower pulley.

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    Forgot to mention, I found this company today:

    wolftoothcomponents.com

    Looks like they are combining some of that swanky XX1 tech with GXP direct mount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Forgot to mention, I found this company today:

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    Looks like they are combining some of that swanky XX1 tech with GXP direct mount.

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    Very nice! Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Best drivetrain combo out there. Microdrive + NSB ring + Zee derailleur
    That is some good feedback there.

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    Has anyone tried the widget out with the microdrive setup? Looks pretty interesting in this context.

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    Anyone used the hub with a 160mm rotor? My Formula R1 brake is hitting the spokes when I use the 160mm disc. I'll try using a 180mm to try to sort it out. Maybe the formula are too fat to the inside, and the spoke angle doesn't allow this? It is on a Banshee Prime using 142mm dropouts, and other people usually need shims. For me, even without shims, I can't get the brake not to hit the spokes
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    My Micro set-up is almost done....Still need to get my hub and 9t cogs from Sean(Canfield bike) and it will be complete. Have a 28T on now and the 32T will be here by the 7th of march.


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    Nice, good to see local NSB is getting some Micro love!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsullivan View Post
    My Micro set-up is almost done....Still need to get my hub and 9t cogs from Sean(Canfield bike) and it will be complete. Have a 28T on now and the 32T will be here by the 7th of march.


    rsullivan- how many spacers on the guide backplate to get your chainline? Thanks in advance.

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    On my 2011 One I used one (3mm sound right?) spacer per mounting point.

    (I would go and check but my bike HAS BEEN LOST BY ALASKAN AIRLINES on the trip back from Tucson to Vancouver! Tomorrow better bring some good news...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    On my 2011 One I used one (3mm sound right?) spacer per mounting point.

    (I would go and check but my bike HAS BEEN LOST BY ALASKAN AIRLINES on the trip back from Tucson to Vancouver! Tomorrow better bring some good news...)
    Thanks for the info! And sorry to hear about your bike. I'm hoping you get some good news as well.

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    I used the 1mm spacer on each bolt. Seemed to line up for me with that. About .5-1mm gap on the guide in the high and low of the cassette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsullivan View Post
    I used the 1mm spacer on each bolt. Seemed to line up for me with that. About .5-1mm gap on the guide in the high and low of the cassette.
    Thanks! I figured I'd need at least the 1mm spacers just to clear the lower link. Perfect. Thanks for getting back to me, much appreciated.

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    Ride report

    I just got the XO cranks, 28t and micro on. Also been running the 9t.

    Had 3 rides on it so far (2012 the one). Previously I had Saints with a 34t. Was a bit much for me to climb heavy steeps in the North East. The 28t to 36t rear is near perfect for all climbing here (IMO). I ride in 8 inch CCDB full ALL THE TIME. Bike climbs with amazing traction.

    I am using this bike roughly for 70% DH and "was" worried about spinning out with the top end gearing on the 28t. The 28 front to 9 rear is not bad at all for me from the flat out runs I did. I havn't had it to a resort set up like this yet but I don't feel like I will be spinning crazy. Take into account I am not a real baller/huck master. Just having downhill-flowy fun!

    All in all... great set up for the One. And I don't have to use my left thumb!

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    i was wondering, which companies beside HBC mades shimano compatible micro chainrings?

    seems like everything is only sram compatible, what i want to use XT\SLX cranks?
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    Not sure about smaller chainrings for Shimano, but these look nice:

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    I've read through most of this and haven't found my answer so I'll ask.

    I am using X0 cranks with a GXP BB, 28t bling ring, Micro guide and 10s 9-36t cassette on a CB micro drive hub. Handles superbeautifully! My question is on the spacing for the BB and Micro guide in relativity to the chain line. I had my LBS install my BB and headset and I did the rest of the building, this is my 3rd time doing it and am pretty familiar with how everything is supposed to be.

    Upon installing the GXP BB, my mech put one of the BB spacers on each side. Mind you this is a 68/73 BB and the frame is The One with a 68mm shell. When I install the cranks and Micro guide I am using 5 of the small washers as spacers, essentially 5mm of spacing, to be in line with the chain ring. I didn't like the way the larger thick spacers sat on the ISCG mounts and they also weren't enough, and I didn't want to make a stack of half washers on top of the larger thick spacer, so I went with a 5 stack on each bolt, between the guide and frame. Following me? Is this incorrect? I'm thinking if the 1 BB spacer on the drive side was removed I could potentially remove 2 or 3 of the washers and move my chain line in a few mm.

    My main concern that in the lowest gears (36t and 2 next to it) I have a lot of chain rubbage on the upper guide. Other than that it all seems to shift and pedal like a dream.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRage43 View Post
    I've read through most of this and haven't found my answer so I'll ask.

    I am using X0 cranks with a GXP BB, 28t bling ring, Micro guide and 10s 9-36t cassette on a CB micro drive hub. Handles superbeautifully! My question is on the spacing for the BB and Micro guide in relativity to the chain line. I had my LBS install my BB and headset and I did the rest of the building, this is my 3rd time doing it and am pretty familiar with how everything is supposed to be.

    Upon installing the GXP BB, my mech put one of the BB spacers on each side. Mind you this is a 68/73 BB and the frame is The One with a 68mm shell. When I install the cranks and Micro guide I am using 5 of the small washers as spacers, essentially 5mm of spacing, to be in line with the chain ring. I didn't like the way the larger thick spacers sat on the ISCG mounts and they also weren't enough, and I didn't want to make a stack of half washers on top of the larger thick spacer, so I went with a 5 stack on each bolt, between the guide and frame. Following me? Is this incorrect? I'm thinking if the 1 BB spacer on the drive side was removed I could potentially remove 2 or 3 of the washers and move my chain line in a few mm.

    My main concern that in the lowest gears (36t and 2 next to it) I have a lot of chain rubbage on the upper guide. Other than that it all seems to shift and pedal like a dream.

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    I have one spacer on the non-drive side and nothing on the other. The guide spacer's I've installed are the thicker one's that came with the guide. It works a charm.

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    Your mech installed the BB correctly according to SRAM:

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    But like all things regarding guides, no universal rules apply. Best bet is to get a BB tool and play around with the whole set up until it is right. It is a pain and takes some time/patience, but the extra effort pays off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    I have one spacer on the non-drive side and nothing on the other. The guide spacer's I've installed are the thicker one's that came with the guide. It works a charm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Your mech installed the BB correctly according to SRAM:

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    But like all things regarding guides, no universal rules apply. Best bet is to get a BB tool and play around with the whole set up until it is right. It is a pain and takes some time/patience, but the extra effort pays off.
    crs- that seems like the solution, one of the thick spacers is equal to 3 of the washers I believe, so if I took out the drive side BB spacer, I should be able to go from 5 washers to 3 (or 1 thick spacer). I just don't know if taking out that 1 BB spacer will cause any other problems, like making the crank or ring too close or something.

    calhoun- thanks, that's all I was able to find about the BB install, that it is correct. As stated, I am curious about taking the drive side spacer out, and what effect that will have on the chain line and crank.

    I will probably swing by the shop and see what the techs say.

    Thanks!

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    The BB spacers are there to achieve correct chainline as well as BB width. It seems everyone can come up a little different.

    My 2012 one:

    With Saints and mini
    Non drive: 1 spacer drive 1 spacer
    Mini: 1 thick washer (no rub)

    With XO DH/BLING 28 and MICRO
    Non drive: 1 spacer drive 1 spacer
    MICRO: 1 thick washer PLUS 1 thin (no rub)

    Good luck. Be careful taking the BB in and out. Keep it clean.
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    I am very interested in this Microdrive hubs. What derailleur are you using? Will a XTR Shadow plus work? Thank you.

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    Micro Drive & Guide

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    SRAM X0 short cage 10t with 30t or 28t front chainring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randan View Post
    I am very interested in this Microdrive hubs. What derailleur are you using? Will a XTR Shadow plus work? Thank you.
    I can't say for sure, but I would imagine any derailleur would work. The hub doesn't actually change anything other than having a smaller ring. I have an X0 short 10spd and it shifts like a hot knife cuts through butter. 28t x 9t-36t and I have a great range.

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    Thank you vey much. Anyone runs a Shimano? (apart from the Shimano Zee, that user Calhoun is using).

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    It's me again: Those that use the microdrive 9t hub for trail riding what can you say about wear? Does this setup (especially the 9t cog) wear out fast? I ask because I read somewhere that SRAM decided not to use a 9t cog on the XX1 cassette because the 9t cog would wear out to fast (this might be a rumour tough).

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    on the 9 speed version... this is simply a shimano caprio cassette. Standard price as many others, about $80. It's designed as a road cassette and the Canfield guys just put it on a MTB hub. I don't have enough time on it to tell it it wears prematurely, but I don't see why it would, and even if it does it's no more than any other cassette to replace.

    On the 10 spd version, you stack 4 custom smaller rings on the bottom of the stack, 9, 11, 13, 16 replace 11, 12, 13, 15 (at least on the sram 1070). Again, these are not expensive to replace, and the system works just as well as any others. If it does wear quickly it won't be hard to get another.

    And TBH I haven't been down in that gear but maybe a handful of times, and that's on my AM rig with 28t drive. My bro has a DH setup with a 32 drive and hasn't even touched the 9t yet, but we haven't hit any lift assisted so far, we'll see when the summer speeds up!

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    the idea is that when you are in the 9t ring you are not really putting much torque through the drive train. The thought that it will wear fast is primarily from the BMX crowd who when they went that low, had quick wear. They, however, are always in that gear unlike us geared crowd. I think wear should be pretty reasonable in our application.

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    I have been on the 10 Speed set up for about 10 months. Like the posters above I don't spend too much time in those lower gears. I just had my rear wheel rebuilt and took the cassette apart and cleaned it. No noticeable wear and after some cleaning the cogs looked new.

    I say go for it. I was a little hesitant, but after talking with SupraMK I knew it would all be good. The quality is there but it is nice to know that Canfield will take care of any problem you have.

    Also, not sure if you have done so yet, but give them a call. They are super helpful on the phone, and you can get your questions answered directly.
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    Thank you guys very much, lot of useful information here! I really like this idea of the Canfield hub but I think i will wait a few days more until Sea Otter to check, if Shimano will already present a reaction to SRAMs XX1 drivetrain. The tempation of the Canfield hub is nonetheless there, as you would only need this very special hub and the rest of the drivetrain could remain stock parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randan View Post
    Thank you guys very much, lot of useful information here! I really like this idea of the Canfield hub but I think i will wait a few days more until Sea Otter to check, if Shimano will already present a reaction to SRAMs XX1 drivetrain. The tempation of the Canfield hub is nonetheless there, as you would only need this very special hub and the rest of the drivetrain could remain stock parts.
    Don't bother waiting for the big guys to respond. Stick to the little guy's, after all they were the first to bring the 9t to the market, all the while others just talked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Don't bother waiting for the big guys to respond. Stick to the little guy's, after all they were the first to bring the 9t to the market, all the while others just talked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Don't bother waiting for the big guys to respond. Stick to the little guy's, after all they were the first to bring the 9t to the market, all the while others just talked.
    This. Plus good luck getting a fast response out of the big guys. I have only had to use Canfield's customer service once. I bent a pedal spindle (my own fault) and Sean was more than helpful. Quick response to email, and even better on the phone. I doubt I will ever need to call them about my drivetrain, but if I do I know that I will be fully supported.
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    What cranks and front ring for a microdrive setup?

    I'm thinking of getting a microdrive hub for my the One, which is currently setup with a Dorado in park mode. With a 170 fork up front, the One could replace my NomadC as my all-mountain bike, but the Nomad is set up with 36-22 front, 11-36 rear, and I'm a bit worried about the low gearing of the microdrive.

    I'd set the microdrive up for 9-36, and to obtain a low gear that's at least similar to the Nomad's, I'd need a 26 ring up front. On the other hand, for park days, I may want to replace the front ring by a 28 or 30.

    What cranks would accept a front ring in that range, i.e. 26 / 28 / 30 ?

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    There are a hand full of crank options for small rings. Seems like most are following the Sram removable spider interface. The XO and X9 are a couple that you can run the small rings on. What others are there?
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    SRAM has several with AKA X9 X0 XX1 and X01, all have removable spiders.

    RaceFace is joining with their NEXT SL crank and spiderless rings with N/W teeth down to a 26t

    E-Thirteen also has an offering with their TRS cranks and N/W rings down to a 28t

    MRP has the bling ring available, no N/W as far as I know

    Wolftooth components also makes rings in multiple colors and N/W teeth down to a 26t with odd numbers as well.

    NSB has some rings available as well, N/W teeth and odd #s down to 26t

    I have a 28t drive on a 9-36t pg 1070. I see a new offering from OneUp and Wolftooth that stacks a 42t on top of the 36t, but you have to remove one of the inner rings like the 19, essentially giving you a 9-42 cassette. I'll probably pick one up and see if I like it.

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    Thanks for the overview TheRage! From the listed cranks, only the RaceFace Next SL is listed as a 26t-ring option on the manufacturer's website. Does that mean that Sram and E13 cannot take a 26t ring, or would a Wolftooth 26t ring fit on those?

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    Recon 9t Microdrive Cassettes

    We now are able to source full 9-36t cassettes through a company named Recon. They specialize in lightweight, beautifully cnc'd cassettes and now offer 9t cassettes. The 9-36t comes in at a svelte 191g! The cassettes retail for $159, however we are running a sale on our packages to help our customers convert over to a 1x drivetrain.

    To learn more, please see our webstore:
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    That's an awesome addition to your component lineup! And it weighs less than all but one of Sram's high end cassette which is only 6g's less! Great job guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drLEE View Post
    Thanks for the overview TheRage! From the listed cranks, only the RaceFace Next SL is listed as a 26t-ring option on the manufacturer's website. Does that mean that Sram and E13 cannot take a 26t ring, or would a Wolftooth 26t ring fit on those?
    the NSB and wolftooth will both match up to the SRAM cranks in a 26t. From what I can read the E13 system only jives with its own guide ring

    Nice find Vin! Looks like the entire cassette is milled out of one piece, looks like a piece of art more than a cassette...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRage43 View Post
    the NSB and wolftooth will both match up to the SRAM cranks in a 26t. From what I can read the E13 system only jives with its own guide ring
    E13 and Raceface seem to be the only ones doing their own interface. Everyone else has adopted the Sram interface which is really going to help with more compatible components to this in the, hopefully near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    We now are able to source full 9-36t cassettes through a company named Recon. They specialize in lightweight, beautifully cnc'd cassettes and now offer 9t cassettes. The 9-36t comes in at a svelte 191g! The cassettes retail for $159, however we are running a sale on our packages to help our customers convert over to a 1x drivetrain.

    To learn more, please see our webstore:
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    Great stuff, excellent guys! Now, can we buy this anywhere from Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuSa View Post
    Great stuff, excellent guys! Now, can we buy this anywhere from Europe?
    You can email our European distributor. email@canfieldbrothers.de

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    Hey guys! I fall in love last couple years with 7sp setup we saw on world cup riders bike. After many reseach and seeing that there are no freehub/cassette solution for my current hubS, I was very happy discovering the CB hub! So Here i am just showing my "in making" 7sp setup if it can help someone. I use the 9-10-11-13-15 from the original Shimano 9sp Capreo cassette and the 14-17 from another cassette.

    I will use a 9sp Sram x9 short cage derailleur and a 9sp x0 shifter. The chainring will be a raceface singlering 32t with a MRP micro chainguide. This will be on my Turner DHR 2012. ^^

    After all I am not 100% sure if all of this will work! haha I will put picture when it will be assembled!


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    Hey guys! Here is an update! I installed the drivetrain on my bike and it works perfectly! I used some bmx related cable knarps ( BMXSTORE.eu - 100% BMX ON-LINE STORE | Knarps 34R CLITO KNARPS se dv?ma ?rouby - 2 ks ) to stop the shifter so I can't shift outside the cassette.

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