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    As it turns out the Paulís klamper is too big to run 180 so 160 it is. Thank you to all that responded

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    New whip

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugo03 View Post
    Anyone have problems running 180mm rotor in the rear? My lbs is building up my epo with Paulís klampers and apparently itís not fitting
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDragonX View Post
    Yeah, I couldn't fit a 180mm and had to stick with 160mm.
    Mostly the same here--although I could fit it, it was nearly impossible to adjust and get an Allen key into the bolts to tighten it down. I just put it back to a 160mm as well. FYI, I put on XT brakes and Shimano adaptor. I did run it for a day but couldn't get it adjusted quite right.

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    I'm going back and reading past posts...maybe I'll see some answers to my questions...

    Who's running their EPO as 27.5+? Are you able to get a 2.8 tire in there?

    And...anyone put more than 140mm travel fork on their EPO? I have a 150mm Pike that I'd like to use if I got this frame...I know I can reduce the travel but if I don't have to that's a few bucks saved and a little extra travel to boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    I'm going back and reading past posts...maybe I'll see some answers to my questions...

    Who's running their EPO as 27.5+? Are you able to get a 2.8 tire in there?

    And...anyone put more than 140mm travel fork on their EPO? I have a 150mm Pike that I'd like to use if I got this frame...I know I can reduce the travel but if I don't have to that's a few bucks saved and a little extra travel to boot.
    I'm running 2.8s easy. Lots of room. Never tried a 3.0 tire as they are so draggy.


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    Yeah...I'd probably go 2.8 max anyways. Maybe 2.6 rear and 2.8 front. I'm so close to pulling the trigger. I have all the parts (if I strip my Release 3) to build except I'd need a non-boost crank and I guess a new wheelset since what I have now is boost. That's really what's holding me back...that's another $400-$600 on top of the frame and crank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    Yeah...I'd probably go 2.8 max anyways. Maybe 2.6 rear and 2.8 front. I'm so close to pulling the trigger. I have all the parts (if I strip my Release 3) to build except I'd need a non-boost crank and I guess a new wheelset since what I have now is boost. That's really what's holding me back...that's another $400-$600 on top of the frame and crank.
    I'm told you can run a boost wheel in this frame....YMMV


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    I read that but I'd be a little sketched out doing that. I guess it would work until I got another proper wheelset.
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    Max width mine can 'clear' is nobby nic 2,8 in rear, but the tyre rubs when you ride hard in corners, so i made aluminium cs guards which work perfect... would reccomend to anyone running a big tire in the back...

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    Morning ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugo03 View Post
    Anyone have problems running 180mm rotor in the rear? My lbs is building up my epo with Paulís klampers and apparently itís not fitting
    I tried 180mm and decided it wasn't worth the hassle; kept scratching the clear coat when trying to position the caliper. 160mm works just fine for everything here in VA.

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    FWIW, and I know this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I just swapped out the Maxle for an Ibis Hexle, which seems a lot less finicky. I broke the Maxle and it was hanging on for dear life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stec06 View Post
    FWIW, and I know this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I just swapped out the Maxle for an Ibis Hexle, which seems a lot less finicky. I broke the Maxle and it was hanging on for dear life.

    Which Hexle would I purchase if I'm running i9 Torch hubs and Shimano XT drivetrain on my EPO?

    I would guess the Shimano 142 version. The note about thread pitch is something I'm not familiar with and confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caldog View Post
    I would guess the Shimano 142 version.
    Yup. Shimano 142.

    The Hexle is great. Cheap, light, effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurkeVT View Post
    Yup. Shimano 142.

    The Hexle is great. Cheap, light, effective.
    SRAM Hexle is the one you want. It's the right length/thread pitch for the EPO dropouts.

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    EPO version 2.0! 140 Pike RCT3 w/Luftkappe mod, Next 170mm cranks, and 27.5 x 2.6 Maxxis Ardent Race R/Rekon F tires. Down to 23.9 lbs now. Really digging the 2.6's, was running the 2.8's and decided to give these a try. Less squirm, rolling resistance, and spin up quicker. Height difference is pretty minimal, about 3-4mm, so notice no issues on the trail. Just rips and is more playful (if that's even possible?) than before.

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    That is a sweet a$$ rig

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbd View Post
    That is a sweet a$$ rig

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    Hi all, has anyone fitted a Maxxis Aggressor 29x2.5 in the rear? room enough? I've got 35mm internal width rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by savo View Post
    Hi all, has anyone fitted a Maxxis Aggressor 29x2.5 in the rear? room enough? I've got 35mm internal width rims
    I tried an Aggressor 29x2.5 on my (rear) 30mm ID rim at the start of the season. It cleared the chainstay enough to be worth a try, but after 2 rides I pulled the wheel out and found that the tire had been rubbing the inside of the chainstays.
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    Hi guys. Extremely important technical question here. I just picked up a EPO in blue and I'm trying to find parts that match the color. Anyone tried matching the blue Chromag Lynx DT with the blue decals on the EPO?
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    Iím getting a new dropper for my epo and itís internal routed and my frame doesnít have the internal and was hoping someone might know where the old thread about drilling the frame for this is. I searched around and couldnít find a thread for it


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    Drill the cap for the front derailleur. Do NOT drill the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raleighguy29 View Post
    Iím getting a new dropper for my epo and itís internal routed and my frame doesnít have the internal and was hoping someone might know where the old thread about drilling the frame for this is. I searched around and couldnít find a thread for it
    It's back earlier in this thread but like callmesb said, just drill an angled hole in the front derailleur mount. I did mine in the slotted part and the cap fits over fine, it's super clean and easy to do.

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    And with dumb luck I found it on the first try, page 14 post 1307.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmanxj View Post
    And with dumb luck I found it on the first try, page 14 post 1307.

    Canfield Brothers EPO Carbon 29er - Page 14- Mtbr.com
    Thanks man this is the last thing I need to do to finish getting the epo ready for the oramm at the end of this month.


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    Just placed an order, 2017 XL EPO incoming ... this is what It will be replacing


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    Any word on new EPO's coming out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit_xc View Post
    Just placed an order, 2017 XL EPO incoming ... this is what It will be replacing


    well ducking duck duck - couple hours after I placed the order got a paypal refund with the following message:

    "Notes from merchant
    sorry we are sold out of this frame, this is a typo. We will keep you in the loop with an ETA. Should be jan. Thank you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit_xc View Post
    ...We will keep you in the loop with an ETA. Should be jan.
    January???
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    Are they even in business any more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manitou2200 View Post
    Are they even in business any more?
    I was kind of wondering the same thing.

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    I wouldnít bother with trying to get into an EPO. There are other bikes Iíd rather ride that are better built frames from companies that provide customer service.


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    What carbon hardtail is comparable to an EPO?

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    Transition Vanquish. The EPO doesnít really compare to it.


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    Cool, I'll check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottay View Post
    What carbon hardtail is comparable to an EPO?
    Quote Originally Posted by manitou2200 View Post
    Transition Vanquish. The EPO doesnít really compare to it.

    wow, kids these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit_xc View Post
    wow, kids these days
    Howís that EPO coming along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manitou2200 View Post
    Transition Vanquish. The EPO doesnít really compare to it.


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    I thought the Geo was almost the same... Refresh my memory....


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    Quote Originally Posted by manitou2200 View Post
    Howís that EPO coming along?
    Patience is the word

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    Honzo CR is on the list, with the Vanquish and EPO...not finding much else that fits the bill. Very little press/reviews on the Vanquish (or Throttle)
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    Canfield Brothers EPO Carbon 29er

    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    I thought the Geo was almost the same... Refresh my memory....


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    Similar but the Vanquish is 13mm longer TT and reach, 21mm shorter stack, 15mm shorter HT, 10mm shorter ST, 6mm longer CSL.5 degree slacker STA and .5 degree slacker HA plus it can take an angle set with the ZS head tube. A more compliant ride and it looks much better IMO.

    But enough about this bike, this is a Canfield forum. Twice I tried to buy an EPO but they were out and couldnít give me a response. I bailed on it, ordered a Honzo CR but once they started delivering the carbon Honzo the issues showed up and I cancelled that. I just donít have any confidence in CBB right now. Good guys an innovative for sure but.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manitou2200 View Post
    Twice I tried to buy an EPO but they were out and I couldnít give me a response. I bailed on it, ordered a Honzo CR but once they started delivering the carbon Honzo the issues showed up and I cancelled that. I just donít have any confidence in CBB right now. Good guys an innovative for sure but.....
    Huh what? what issues with what bike (honzo/epo)???
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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit_xc View Post
    Patience is the word
    Iím plenty patient. Like I was patient over a couple years. But not to be and Iím glad it didnít happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPA Rider View Post
    Honzo CR is on the list, with the Vanquish and EPO...not finding much else that fits the bill. Very little press/reviews on the Vanquish (or Throttle)
    What kind of press do you need. Tradition builds great bikes that rip. I pretty much donít even need to ride one to decide to buy. The specs are good and I know what I like. The Honzo CR is shat. They screwed up the first one and the new ver that just launched looks like, weíll itís ugly.

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    Canfield Brothers EPO Carbon 29er

    Quote Originally Posted by IPA Rider View Post
    Huh what? what issues with what bike (honzo/epo)???
    Iím not going to dis the EPO but the 1st Honzo CR had no tire clearance and had alignment issues. But it was a good looking bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manitou2200 View Post
    What kind of press do you need. Tradition builds great bikes that rip. I pretty much donít even need to ride one to decide to buy.
    I was hoping for more than a very brief commentary from Dirtrag and the word of some guy on mtbr.com who hasn't ridden them.

    If they are as good as you say, then it seems that eventually they would get some attention somewhere, but perhaps these bikes are only for those few who really know their sh!z

    Love the look of the Honzo CR currently on the Kona site
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPA Rider View Post
    I was hoping for more than a very brief commentary from Dirtrag and the word of some guy on mtbr.com who hasn't ridden them.

    If they are as good as you say, then it seems that eventually they would get some attention somewhere, but perhaps these bikes are only for those few who really know their sh!z

    Love the look of the Honzo CR currently on the Kona site
    None of these newer style hard tails get any press. With all the new enduro bikes and LT 29rs dominating the mind share.

    Have you not ridden a Honzo cr or an EPO? Iíve not ridden a Vanquish but I donít need to based on the geometry. Iíll buy one without riding it but Iím not suggesting you or anyone else should take my word that itíll be a good bike. Jump on over to the Transition forum and check it out. The see if you can demo one if needed.

    The Honzo looked boss! Better than the EPO. The Honzo CR geometry is spot on but you could barely fit a 2.25 racing ralph in the RT and they had issues with the RT alignment. I was wrong the new Kona bike i was referring to is the Big Honzo CR. It is fugly! The current Honzo cr was long. The size small geo is close to the medium Vanquish and EPO.


    The Trek Stash actually started this category of carbon hardtail even doing it with 29+, but you can run them with smaller 29r tires 2.4-2.6 and it is a very good bike.


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    Broken EPO :-(

    So went to do some BB maintenance on my EPO, as have been noticing a slight creak under heavy pedaling. Thought it might be time to change the BB. To my surprise, after I removed the crank, the whole thing fell out with the BB inserts. Crap! Seems to have been like that for some time as can see the spinning marks on the frame and also on the BB inserts where they meet. Interestingly it had been hardly making a noise.

    Have been absolutely loving riding the bike. Have sent an email to the Australian distributor where I bought it from. Bought it in Oct 15 and have been riding it most weekends except for about a 9 to 12 month period where I swapped to my other bike, a Giant Reign. Anyways, see what Mr. Canfield will say? Anyone else have this problem?

    For the record, I'm 80kg, 53 years old and do ride hard and fast, mostly trial with some AM.
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    Yes - same - also bought Oct 15, but failed Apr 17, so clearly within warranty. Frame replaced by Canfield without hesitation.

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    Hmm. I assumed the insert was the full thickness of the silver discs on the ends. Now seeing what it really is, kinda disappointed.

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    I had that happen to mine recently but in all fairness Iíve beat the **** out of mine. Iím 200 lbs and ride like a bull in a china shop and I break everything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by apostolos View Post
    So went to do some BB maintenance on my EPO, as have been noticing a slight creak under heavy pedaling. Thought it might be time to change the BB. To my surprise, after I removed the crank, the whole thing fell out with the BB inserts. Crap! Seems to have been like that for some time as can see the spinning marks on the frame and also on the BB inserts where they meet. Interestingly it had been hardly making a noise.

    Have been absolutely loving riding the bike. Have sent an email to the Australian distributor where I bought it from. Bought it in Oct 15 and have been riding it most weekends except for about a 9 to 12 month period where I swapped to my other bike, a Giant Reign. Anyways, see what Mr. Canfield will say? Anyone else have this problem?

    For the record, I'm 80kg, 53 years old and do ride hard and fast, mostly trial with some AM.
    I warrantied my first frame for the same problem. 2nd frame has been fine.

    Ive had several warranty issues w/different bike in places where metal is glued to carbon. Seems to be a very weak point.

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    Finally finished my EPO today, taken a year to get all the parts together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apostolos View Post
    So went to do some BB maintenance on my EPO, as have been noticing a slight creak under heavy pedaling. Thought it might be time to change the BB. To my surprise, after I removed the crank, the whole thing fell out with the BB inserts. Crap! Seems to have been like that for some time as can see the spinning marks on the frame and also on the BB inserts where they meet. Interestingly it had been hardly making a noise.

    Have been absolutely loving riding the bike. Have sent an email to the Australian distributor where I bought it from. Bought it in Oct 15 and have been riding it most weekends except for about a 9 to 12 month period where I swapped to my other bike, a Giant Reign. Anyways, see what Mr. Canfield will say? Anyone else have this problem?

    For the record, I'm 80kg, 53 years old and do ride hard and fast, mostly trial with some AM.
    So got a swift response from Mr Canfield who advised ďYes sir, this is an easy fix, just re-epoxy the BB shell back in the frame. I have repaired one before with great results. I use a 2 part epoxy and it works perfect stillĒ. Well not what I was expecting considering the type of failure, but then maybe I was being too optimistic, and gave it a go.

    I did some research first and found some carbon repair websites recommending to remove the anodizing from the aluminum BB sleeve before gluing. This can easily be done with an oven cleaner spray. The idea was to open up the aluminum pores to better accept the adhesive. Cleaned up the carbon as best I could. I had some marine epoxy, which was thinner than the traditional hardware two pack epoxy. Being thinner had the advantage whereby it minimised the risk of 'over-applying' the epoxy and then ending up with a mess when pressing together. Coated all the mating parts and then used the cranks to pre-load the BB sleeve while the epoxy cured for a couple of days. Presto, looks as good as a bought one, maybe better !!
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