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    Canfield Brothers Balance - First Look

    How about making the FD mount removable like the N9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    How about making the FD mount removable like the N9?
    I like pwu_1's idea. That FD block probably weighs 100g's or more

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    Is the shock size available?

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    It's a 200 x 57.
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    Looks pretty good....

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    Well, I'm super stoked on this bike design. Seems like a great "Galbraith daily rider".
    "It looks flexy"

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    The Balance will be great on Galby. That type of riding is just what we intended for it. I've been riding the proto on South Mountain near Phx and Bootleg Canyon in Boulder City. Everywhere we ride, this bike will most likely be the first out of the van. Very capable bike, up, down and everything in between.
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    Planning on making it a 26" bike,
    will that affect anything in the bike? cornering, pedaling? anything? or just make it livelier

    also, what are estimated weights on the builds?
    can it get to 28lbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
    Planning on making it a 26" bike,
    will that affect anything in the bike? cornering, pedaling? anything? or just make it livelier

    also, what are estimated weights on the builds?
    can it get to 28lbs?
    I'm building with my personal Balance with 26's and a 170mm Lyrik DH to give it more of a "park" feel. Lance has been testing with both set ups and settled in on 27.5's and the Pike 160mm for his do EVERYTHING bike. It's all a preference.

    We are waiting for actual production to post weights, but I'd expect most builds to be right around 30lbs, +/- depending on parts selection.

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    More pics of it in the air please!
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    any info about frame only weight?

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    feb bump for more info

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    Yep, its time for more Balance info and pic's.

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    Why am I not surprised? Here is my top four: Balance, Warden, M6 or Range?

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    I go Warden, Range carbon and simply interested in what the Balance would be like as I will most likely have my new bike by the time its released!

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    So can anyone at Canfield speak on the BB spacing? Is it similar to the Yelli? I went to swap my HBC ring for a new Wolftooth components N/W spiderless chainring this weekend and I added a 2.5mm spacer on the driveside and it was still right on top of my chainstay.

    Thanks

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    Any new details/pics/vids??? How's the testing going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INCONEL View Post
    Any new details/pics/vids??? How's the testing going?
    Good luck getting any new info from the bro's. They great at building bike's, components and customer service but they are even better at being tight lipped. Getting info on the Balance is like getting blood from a stone.

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    Canfield Brothers Balance - First Look

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Good luck getting any new info from the bro's. They great at building bike's, components and customer service but they are even better at being tight lipped. Getting info on the Balance is like getting blood from a stone.
    Just gotta know how to ask. I bet we know something big this week or the next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    I bet we know something big this week or the next.
    I agree with you on that, especially now that the '14 Jedi and new cranks are released and off their plate.

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    Canfield Balance Details!

    Thank you guys SO much for all your patience. We are stoked to announce our Balance's are in production and we are on target to be shipping by mid June.

    $2100 US including a Cane Creek DB Air CS!

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    Features:
    • 6061 aluminum
    • Patent pending Canfield Balance Formula Suspension
    • 27.5”/26” compatible
    • 160mm travel
    • 200mm x 57mm Cane Creek Double Barrel Air included
    • 142 x 12mm Maxle rear axle
    • Tapered headtube
    • 15mm pivot max bearings
    • Replaceable rear derailleur hanger
    • Available in Small, Medium, Large and X-Large


    Build Specs:
    • Cane Creek Double Barrel DB Air CS included
    • Shock Specs – 200mm x 57mm, (22mm x 8mm hardware)
    • Recommend fork length – 160mm- 170mm
    • Headset – Tapered 44mm upper/49.6mm lower
    • Front derailleur – Shimano direct mount – top pull/single bolt, or Sram HO series
    • Bottom bracket – 73mm
    • Seatpost – 30.9mm
    • Seatpost clamp – 35mm
    • Rear dropout – 142mm x 12mm Maxle
    • ISCG tabs
    • Post brake mount


    Available in two finishes, Ano Black or Brushed with six link color options. Shipping mid June 2014.

    One of our friends doing a little "product testing" for us:
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    thank you for posting the numbers so soon. i wasn't expecting the stats for another month or so. after looking at the geo page, i noticed a few errors. the drawing letters doesn't line up with the chart. for instance bb drop is listed as 139.7 mm. is that supposed to be 13mm. and j is listed as seat angle but it is clearly chain stay length. i think j,k,l and m are off on the chart.

    i like the price and colors, but am waiting to see what color fern green is in the links and if the travel is adjustable shorter.

    are you going to make fern green pedals and seat collars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guswalls View Post
    thank you for posting the numbers so soon. i wasn't expecting the stats for another month or so. after looking at the geo page, i noticed a few errors. the drawing letters doesn't line up with the chart. for instance bb drop is listed as 139.7 mm. is that supposed to be 13mm. and j is listed as seat angle but it is clearly chain stay length. i think j,k,l and m are off on the chart.

    i like the price and colors, but am waiting to see what color fern green is in the links and if the travel is adjustable shorter.

    are you going to make fern green pedals and seat collars?
    Thanks for the heads up... Geo charts are updated.

    Fern green is similar to DVO green. Crampon Classics are currently available in Fern, Ultimates will be available by summer. Clamps, we will continue to have Black, Silver, Blue and Red.

    Cheers!
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    and what would be the price in Europe?

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    Is there a frame with shock weight? I wish I could see pics of the frames colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    Is there a frame with shock weight? I wish I could see pics of the frames colors.
    The Ano Black option will have laser etched logos. The brushed will look similar to our proto and will have black stickers, then a clear coat to protect the finish. We are waiting on finished samples. As soon as they arrive I will shoot and add them to the site.

    As production has not finished, I can't post actual production weights yet, but we should be in the 7.5lb range without shock.

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    6'2" and I can't decide on an XL with a 35mm stem or a Large with a 50mm stem. Currently on an XL Bronson and the Large and XL Balance straddle the reach measurement I'm used to.

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    what size do you recon would fit a 6" rider?
    im looking at the M size with 50mm stem?
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    Oh man!!! Looking forward to see some photos of the black anno frame.
    I may go with an M size

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    It looks like a sick bike! I have a question on the Geo #s:

    So is the bike slacker with an internal headset? It shows a 65.5* HA with an internal set, and a 66* with an external. It also shows the Small size as a 66.5* w/ internal, and 66* with external. Is the small sizing correct? Or am I just completely off base.

    Anyways, I might have to see what this bike can do. Maybe a replacement for my process is in order
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    Quote Originally Posted by formu1fan View Post
    It looks like a sick bike! I have a question on the Geo #s:

    So is the bike slacker with an internal headset? It shows a 65.5* HA with an internal set, and a 66* with an external. It also shows the Small size as a 66.5* w/ internal, and 66* with external. Is the small sizing correct? Or am I just completely off base.

    Anyways, I might have to see what this bike can do. Maybe a replacement for my process is in order

    Should be 66.5º internal, 66º external (actual HA's will depend on fork, tires and headset).

    Cheers.

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    Looks great fella's! Numbers and the price are spot on.

    Actually talking about numbers, how will the geo be effected when 27.5er's are installed?

    And it looks like that there aren't any fancy dropouts or the likes for installing the 27.5er's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Looks great fella's! Numbers and the price are spot on.

    Actually talking about numbers, how will the geo be effected when 27.5er's are installed?

    And it looks like that there aren't any fancy dropouts or the likes for installing the 27.5er's?
    If I am not mistaken, the geo numbers are wheel size agnostic, with the exception of the standover height. Install 650b wheels and get a BB height of about 13.8". Install 26" and the BB drops by about 1/2".

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    If I am not mistaken, the geo numbers are wheel size agnostic, with the exception of the standover height. Install 650b wheels and get a BB height of about 13.8". Install 26" and the BB drops by about 1/2".
    Yeah I sorta figured the most, just wanted hear what Canfield's had to say. It's certainly the type of info that should be added to the geo and sizing page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Yeah I sorta figured the most, just wanted hear what Canfield's had to say. It's certainly the type of info that should be added to the geo and sizing page. And it looks like that there aren't any fancy dropouts or the likes for installing the 27.5er's?
    Thanks for the feedback. I added that standover is based on 27.5" to help clarify. Please remember, these #'s will be greatly affected by component selection. Running 26's will drop the BB by about 1/2".

    While we designed the Balance around 27.5", we knew we would have customers that would enjoy the low slung feeling of this bike with 26's. (I am in this boat living in Bellingham, where the trails are super smooth compared to other areas). Due to this we did not feel the need to incorporate "moving parts" into our stout dropouts.

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    What would be the price for Europe?
    You have not answer that killingtonvt

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    Quote Originally Posted by komondor View Post
    What would be the price for Europe?
    You have not answer that killingtonvt
    komondor - Sorry, I haven't seen you ask this question before. We only set US pricing as our distributors handle pricing in their specific countries, canfieldbrothers.de will set European pricing. If you have more questions on this, feel free to email us directly.

    Cheers!

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    Where can I order one from Singapore? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cycad View Post
    Where can I order one from Singapore? Thanks.
    Hi cycad. We have a world distributor map at the footer of every page on our website, (infosite, not webstore). If there is no distributor listed for your country, as in your case, we can ship directly to you. Please email us directly with any questions.

    Cheers!

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    What is the longest fork recommended in 25.7 mode? Will a 180 like the XF Metric work?
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    How about a Talas 180/140? would the 140 be to short?

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    How about a Talas 180/140? would the 140 be to short?
    Depends on what you are doing while in 140. Climbing??? Great.

    Going downhill?? Might be pedal strike-tactic.

    If I can get some positive feedback on the xfusion sweep I might try the 130-160 adjustable fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    Hi cycad. We have a world distributor map at the footer of every page on our website, (infosite, not webstore). If there is no distributor listed for your country, as in your case, we can ship directly to you. Please email us directly with any questions.

    Cheers!
    Ok thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    The Ano Black option will have laser etched logos. The brushed will look similar to our proto and will have black stickers, then a clear coat to protect the finish. We are waiting on finished samples. As soon as they arrive I will shoot and add them to the site.

    As production has not finished, I can't post actual production weights yet, but we should be in the 7.5lb range without shock.
    Glad it's not under 7 lbs, can't wait to see a black next to the brushed finish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerhill View Post
    Glad it's not under 7 lbs
    Dafuq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    Dafuq?
    Prefer to keep fs frames a few years.. Plenty of featherweight options out there but I like durable bikes, threaded BB, replaceable bearings etc.
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    Some questions for the Bros and Vince:
    What size would you recommend for someone who's 6'1"? Is the BB threaded or press fit? What length crank arm would you recommend someone of my size if I got the frame and crank package? I'm on 175mm now. I'm hoping to demo this bike this summer. Are you guys planning any trips back down to Utah this season to promote/demo the Balance?

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    Think their cranks use threaded GXP..

    frame manual mentions the bb is reamed, doesn't say chased though..
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    Canfield Brothers Balance - First Look

    I would assume its a threaded BB since there cranks are. And afaik every frame they have ever made has been a threaded bb. What is the advantage to a pressfit BB??

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