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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyBob View Post
    oh man I would cry. great thing about living in the cali bay area... still building and riding three days a week. that's a sweet rig though. and that seat is super comfy, but i couldn't use it until i got a revive dropper that would go all the way down to the frame... had trouble getting over the back of it on steeps. may your cabin fever lead to supreme stoke in the spring! you'll love the bike.
    It's not looking to be a very snowy winter, so I should be able to ride pretty soon - I hope! I'll get back to you on my seat situation. It's a carry-over from my old Range, and I didn't have trouble with it on there, so I guess I'll see. They are a great seat though, I also use one on my commuter track bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troutinco View Post
    My dad couldn't wait to come up to see me to finish his bike. So he took it to a local shop and they put the rest together that we didn't get to yet. No shake down run yet since it is raining where he is, trails are closed. Hopefully this weekend when they are up here we can get out. He did get a parking lot test of it and is super stoked to get it on trail now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTTR View Post
    Tell your father it's twin brother Balance frame arrived here just in time for Christmas!
    Ha Nice! I took my dads bike for a really quick parking lot spin. I know what my next full suss is going to be.... We hope to get it out today or tomorrow for a good shakedown run.
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    tic toc. tic toc...... It is that time for me to sit and wait as time moves slowly while I wait for a 11-6 from push. I decided that my Balance was going to be my race bike for next year and figured a 11-6 could not hurt in the quest for going faster.

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    My dad finally got a ride on his Balance. His shoulder was bugging him so he hasn't gotten to push the thing, but did get a shake down run in.
    His words: It just floats down hill, pedals great up hill. Cant wait till Moab!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troutinco View Post
    My dad finally got a ride on his Balance. His shoulder was bugging him so he hasn't gotten to push the thing, but did get a shake down run in.
    His words: It just floats down hill, pedals great up hill. Cant wait till Moab!
    Man that piggy back on the Woodie looks like it's so close to the down tube.

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    Which spring rate to choose for a 220 lb rider and a 200 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpolism View Post
    Man that piggy back on the Woodie looks like it's so close to the down tube.
    That was my thought too, and is still a slight concern for me. I put my fat ass on it and bounced it and it didn't touch. I know I was close to bottoming it.
    I'm planning on still pulling the shock and just double checking the movement cause it still bothers me when I see it. From what I could tell the shock doesnt move much up or down, just in and out. I didn't get the chance to pull it when he had it here.
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    Those with a Jade. What are you settings and riding style? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_AM View Post
    Those with a Jade. What are you settings and riding style? Thanks!
    I'm interested in this too, although a caveat being that the Balance is decent upgrade from my old bike, and it's also my first time running tubeless. I'm running a Jade and have so far been riding on Vancouver's North Shore. Tech and singletrack rides seems to ride well, but on wider flow trails and some traversing I'm finding it a little sluggish. Saying that, however, I am happy with the technical climbing I've been doing.

    I stole settings from another user on Reddit who is close to my weight:

    Bros for life! I have a Balance with the Jade, running: 8 clicks HSC 2 clicks LSC 22 clicks rebound

    Sometimes I dial up the LSC to 5 depending on how smooth the terrain is.

    I weigh 175 with all my gear on running a 450lb spring

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    Make sure that the IFP is pressurized to 180psi.
    I used this (I have a 400lb spring, recommended by Shaun at Canfield), and have not made a change except to take two clicks off of the rebound dampening to make it a little poppier off rollers. I might remove a touch more.

    The guy above is saying that he's 175 geared up on a 450lb spring. With a 400lb spring, I am struggling to get a decent sag at the same weight, no matter the preload. In fact, I found that changing the preload pretty much made no difference to the sag. Any ideas?

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    guys, dont know if this was already covered, but has anyone replaced the rear axle (pinch or QR) ? which thread works ? SRAM, DT-Swiss ?
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    Canfield uses the 1.75 thread pitch, same as Maxle. You need a 174mm x 1.75 for the Balance (180mm x 1.75 if you're squeezing a Boost rear hub in the frame).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazarus2405 View Post
    Canfield uses the 1.75 thread pitch, same as Maxle. You need a 174mm x 1.75 for the Balance (180mm x 1.75 if you're squeezing a Boost rear hub in the frame).
    thanks man
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    HI everybody,

    guys it's too quiet on the forum, you should add a little more animation!
    does anyone have an idea what the Balance 2018 would look like? they did not put anything on their official website yet
    good kisses from Paris with the cold and the rain
    it's been two months since I got on my bike because of a fractured elbow I suffer from lack
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUCHI View Post
    HI everybody,

    guys it's too quiet on the forum, you should add a little more animation!
    does anyone have an idea what the Balance 2018 would look like? they did not put anything on their official website yet
    good kisses from Paris with the cold and the rain
    it's been two months since I got on my bike because of a fractured elbow I suffer from lack
    Cheers
    there is a dedicated thread for the 2018 bikes. you are not missing anything yet...
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    thank you for informing me I almost missed all this tohubohu!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUCHI View Post
    HI everybody,

    guys it's too quiet on the forum, you should add a little more animation!
    does anyone have an idea what the Balance 2018 would look like? they did not put anything on their official website yet
    good kisses from Paris with the cold and the rain
    it's been two months since I got on my bike because of a fractured elbow I suffer from lack
    Cheers
    I asked Sean 3 days ago what was up, he said it will be released in the Summer. I hope it's a Carbon frame!

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    hopefully they will, yes because they will be overwhelmed by all these big brands on the market and it will be a damage done to the spirit of this sport

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    I have 700 PNW miles on my Balance, no sounds coming from the pivots, but is it time to service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madamfunk View Post
    I have 700 PNW miles on my Balance, no sounds coming from the pivots, but is it time to service?
    my personal philosophy: never service quiet, functioning pivots or BBs. I've pulled them apart, only to put them together and have a new, completely unnecessary creak. Argh. That said, pretty simple to pull the linkage apart and give 'em a finger roll if you're worried about the bearings being shot.

    But again, to me, "If it ain't creakin', don't go seekin'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyBob View Post
    my personal philosophy: never service quiet, functioning pivots or BBs. I've pulled them apart, only to put them together and have a new, completely unnecessary creak. Argh. That said, pretty simple to pull the linkage apart and give 'em a finger roll if you're worried about the bearings being shot.

    But again, to me, "If it ain't creakin', don't go seekin'"
    THIS! Unless you're using a pressure washer, and forcing dirt past the bearing seals, there is NO WAY you should need to service them after 700 miles (even here in the wet Pacific NW). Also the less you wash your bike the better - believe it or not. I didn't wash my Balance once last year and it's the quietest bike out of all in my posse.

    Have FUN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman086 View Post
    THIS! Unless you're using a pressure washer, and forcing dirt past the bearing seals, there is NO WAY you should need to service them after 700 miles (even here in the wet Pacific NW). Also the less you wash your bike the better - believe it or not. I didn't wash my Balance once last year and it's the quietest bike out of all in my posse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madamfunk View Post
    I have 700 PNW miles on my Balance, no sounds coming from the pivots, but is it time to service?
    My 2016 Balance had Bolu bearings that did 2300 PNW miles and I hose my bike off with reckless abandon when it is muddy. They never creaked, but the backend started feeling a bit more flexy than it used to so I replaced them all a month ago. Some of the bearings were actually still fine but a few were pretty rough.

    I would let yours go at least another season if nothing feels wrong.

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    Looking for help on choosing a fork for my Balance

    Currently I have a stock Yari and a Jade. I am looking for more performance out of the fork to match the Jade. I have been thinking about these three options:

    1. Mod the Yari with the Push ACS 3 kit and Charger 2 damper
    2. Get a DVO Diamond
    3. Mod the Yari with an Avalanche cartridge and 2019 air spring

    I really like the ideal of having coil at both ends. However, the Yari has been underwhelming. It has an odd topout that seems to throw the whole bike off. It feels like the bushings are shot but it is a brand new fork. I would have a better fork than a Lyrik for about the same cost. After the the Push kit was launched, my desire for an Avalanche cart has waned.

    I wouldn't mind having matching suspension on both ends of my Balance. The DVO is pretty nice from what I hear. It seems to answer all the issues that RockShox has with their platform. A bonus would be that it is the lightest option of the three. All of choices are around $600 so it is negligible on that front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer_coffee_water View Post
    Currently I have a stock Yari and a Jade. I am looking for more performance out of the fork to match the Jade. I have been thinking about these three options:

    1. Mod the Yari with the Push ACS 3 kit and Charger 2 damper
    2. Get a DVO Diamond
    3. Mod the Yari with an Avalanche cartridge and 2019 air spring

    I really like the ideal of having coil at both ends. However, the Yari has been underwhelming. It has an odd topout that seems to throw the whole bike off. It feels like the bushings are shot but it is a brand new fork. I would have a better fork than a Lyrik for about the same cost. After the the Push kit was launched, my desire for an Avalanche cart has waned.

    I wouldn't mind having matching suspension on both ends of my Balance. The DVO is pretty nice from what I hear. It seems to answer all the issues that RockShox has with their platform. A bonus would be that it is the lightest option of the three. All of choices are around $600 so it is negligible on that front.
    May be DVO will release a single crown coil fork soon ?.. meanwhile... the mrp ribbon coil works fantastic with the Jade...cheers
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    Who needs a 2018 bike?



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    Quote Originally Posted by luisgutierod View Post
    May be DVO will release a single crown coil fork soon ?.. meanwhile... the mrp ribbon coil works fantastic with the Jade...cheers
    Thanks Luis, I have a problem with the Ribbon, it is boost only. I am not trying to replace a hub also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer_coffee_water View Post
    Thanks Luis, I have a problem with the Ribbon, it is boost only. I am not trying to replace a hub also.
    I have spacers/adapters on my non-boost front hub... no big issue for the front wheel man..
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    I had my rear wheel off for the first time since my build and noticed what looked like a bit of rubbing on the left chainstay just by the weld. Running Stans Flow mk3 with DHF WT 2.5s. Perhaps this is a bit wide and is rubbing when the tire is compressed?

    Also, those of you with Jades, what's your weight and how heavy a spring are you running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazarescu View Post
    I had my rear wheel off for the first time since my build and noticed what looked like a bit of rubbing on the left chainstay just by the weld. Running Stans Flow mk3 with DHF WT 2.5s. Perhaps this is a bit wide and is rubbing when the tire is compressed?

    Also, those of you with Jades, what's your weight and how heavy a spring are you running?
    I look at my 2.5 aggressor for potential rubbing. In regards to the Jade, I am 205-210 lbs running a 500 lbs spring. That rate was the Bros/Sean's recommendation and it is working well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer_coffee_water View Post
    I look at my 2.5 aggressor for potential rubbing. In regards to the Jade, I am 205-210 lbs running a 500 lbs spring. That rate was the Bros/Sean's recommendation and it is working well.
    Thanks for the response. I really thought it wouldn't rub considering the clearance! I threw a 2.5 Griffin on, so will see how that goes.

    I guess I'm close to 190 geared up, and have been running a 400lb spring, just ordered a 500lb to test. Unfortunately my Jade is starting to make some very gross squishing sounds, I think there might be air in the rebound oil, so I'm gonna get it looked at.

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    I recently had an issue with tire rubbing on my 2.6 Specialized Slaughter. Mine was rubbing on the driveside chainstay.

    I used a straight-edge and found that my wheel was off-center by about 1/4" to the drive-side, but the wheel was dished correctly. I used some string and found that the rear triangle was centered, so i'm not sure why this would be. I ended up just dishing the wheel by 1/4" to correct for it.

    Worth noting that I have a boost rear wheel, so not sure if this is related to your issues.

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    Just to continue with my suspension issues, I'm struggling to find a good setup on my X-Fusion Metric HLR and am thinking of swapping to a 160mm DVO Diamond as a match for my Jade.

    Does anyone run a DVO Diamond? How do you like it?

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    Looking for a large 2017 (would like to have a bottle mount available for some rides if possible). Any good places to watch besides Pinkbike? Current bike is falling apart so I’m not sure if I can wait for a 2018! I’m wondering if “coming out this summer” means more like announcing or available??

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    disregard. I'll need a small frame
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    lazarescu, I have Diamonds on my Balance and Riot and really like them a lot. They are setup as recommended by dvo and work great. The boost fork have more tire clearance as the 2.5 dhf is close to the crown on mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by shwinn8 View Post
    disregard. I'll need a small frame
    I am selling a small frame, let me know if interested.

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    Just put a rear boost wheel on the balance, no rotor adapter, nothing ! Just works , ha ! Hilarious, Im bullying all my friends with the new carbon wonder bikes !
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    I put a boost wheel on mine also. Works like a charm. The Balance is the most versatile bike out there. Running 2.8 tire in front and 2.6 back. Traction galore!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB666 View Post
    I am selling a small frame, let me know if interested.
    I will indeed!


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    Quote Originally Posted by shwinn8 View Post
    I will indeed!
    You already found me on PinkBike yesterday evening :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by luisgutierod View Post
    Just put a rear boost wheel on the balance, no rotor adapter, nothing ! Just works , ha ! Hilarious, Im bullying all my friends with the new carbon wonder bikes !
    Same! it actually has a better chain line now haha. I get crazy chain slap with a 28t though

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    Since some people asked me for the CC's Helm fork I am running, here is a one year short review:

    I just serviced my fork with about 500 km on it (with 300 km total descend). At the mechanic, no problems were noticed, at the end of the service period, it was a little more harsh.

    After servicing, the fork works as initially bought one year ago - plushness on small bumps, feeling safe on big hits (as far as my skills allow me to - jumps around 1m). As a comparison, the local trails (in Bulgaria) are a bit rocky and technical - more like rocky mountains in the States.

    The fork is all good, however, I wouldn't second my thoughts for the CC's Double Barrel Air shock which needed a full re-servicing AND change of ALL the rubber sealings. I hope it is all good now as I really like the LSC and HSC settings and I cannot justify another shock right now.

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    Love my Balance

    I built up this 2017 at the end of last season. I have been hucking it off everything I can find and riding it hard on DH type trail with no real issues. I did have some linkage noise after washes, but that seems to have vanished. I've run a vivid air and a fox float X2 so I can't comment on the Cane Creek. I was on a 2015 Nomad before this which definitely handled lighter, but I am used to the feel of this bike now and love it. Quality wise I'd say it is still above the big box brands, I've ridden most of them.

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    Full send! You have some epic riding there!

    Out of curiosity, what’s your riding weight and how do you have the X2 setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB666 View Post
    Full send! You have some epic riding there!

    Out of curiosity, what’s your riding weight and how do you have the X2 setup?
    I weigh about 195 with gear. I need to check my air pressure but I'd guess 210. It's pretty active climbing, I don't have the climb switch. I used the stock X2 setup and backed off the high and low dampening a touch. I actually would like to go try out a fox coil.

    Some of these shots are from Vancouver island and some from Kelowna. BC has some epic riding for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatlandersk View Post
    I've run a vivid air and a fox float X2 so I can't comment on the Cane Creek.
    How was the vivid air on the balance? What tune did you run? THanks for any input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_AM View Post
    How was the vivid air on the balance? What tune did you run? THanks for any input.
    Not the original commenter but I ran an MM vivid air for a few weeks while my Jade was being serviced. I had to run zero high and low compression dampening and quite a lot of rebound dampening to get it to feel in any way plush. I struggled to bottom out even as I dropped the air in the spring. Perhaps a different tune would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazarescu View Post
    Not the original commenter but I ran an MM vivid air for a few weeks while my Jade was being serviced. I had to run zero high and low compression dampening and quite a lot of rebound dampening to get it to feel in any way plush. I struggled to bottom out even as I dropped the air in the spring. Perhaps a different tune would be better.
    I am running an '16 OEM take off Monarch Plus RC3 ML tune and have to say it is all around poppier and livelier than the 2018 X2 I had on before. Sure the X2 was better for long heated rocky bike park descents, but I love having a real firm climb mode and usable mid-trail setting. I could never get the X2 to jump right.

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    THank you both!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_AM View Post
    How was the vivid air on the balance? What tune did you run? THanks for any input.
    1.5 clicks of slow speed compression, 2 clicks of high speed, 2 clicks of beginning rebound, 2 clicks of ending rebound.

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    I meant the tune. Like. M/M. M/L.

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    My 2016 Raw Balance Size XL frame and components are up for sale. Check out my buy sell on Pinkbike.

    https://www.pinkbike.com/u/moshun/buysell/

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    Had my balance out today and man did I have a blast on it. That is all


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raleighguy29 View Post
    Had my balance out today and man did I have a blast on it. That is all


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    Took my Balance to China Peak and it did more than I could. Nearly fractured my hand or my 3rd run due to a wash out, but still ran 3 more times even though I was exhausted.

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