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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Oh noooo that is against the rules. Pick a wheel size and be a dick about it. I thought that is how it went.

    Now is this a The One 2.0 or Jedi 29er that is the real question.

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    Sounds like the bike will be a dick about everything. Looking forward to hearing about geo, and how well it can peddle. Assuming it has Canfields current suspension design.

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    New DH bike with Balance rear suspension at 8Ē?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cSquared View Post
    Neither
    The anticipation is killing me. What bike am I buying from you in a few months haha

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    Fingers crossed it's actually a mid travel bike... Can't imagine needing much more than my Balance for anything aside from DH at race pace. Carbon new version of Riot is what I'm hoping for!!!

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    New DH bike, Balance linkage, 200mm, 29er....sounds cool, but reallly I hope there is more. Looking for Carbon Balance or Riot,

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    I hope the new bike(s) are revealed & available soon, need something to do (like a new bike build project) if we don't get much snow over the winter and snowboarding is a non-starter!
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    I hope its something gnarlier than the wreckoning but not quite full DH bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madamfunk View Post
    I hope its something gnarlier than the wreckoning but not quite full DH bike.
    c'mon you sure know something...
    you can see an 11/6 shock on the video teaser... if the convention is followed, this shock is not for DH bikes, so... ; )
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    This thing needs to hurry up and be shown. Starting to get all stir crazy.

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    I'm thinking when Canfield put out the Balance and Riot. They were were considered long travel trail bikes. Now everyone has bikes in the 140-170 range depending on wheel size that can pedal well. Its time for Canfield to set new standards again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luisgutierod View Post
    c'mon you sure know something...
    you can see an 11/6 shock on the video teaser... if the convention is followed, this shock is not for DH bikes, so... ; )
    Good point doubt they make a new shock for the Bros. Longest 11-6 I can find is 165mm. I do expect the Bros to push the limit with travel though

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    Quote Originally Posted by madamfunk View Post
    They should come up with a new range of bikes, all their dual susp ones were fire sold.
    A bike with more than ~170mm of travel loses "the one bike" concept (one you can race, huck, fool around and get lost on a trail)... we all know that the bros never put the "E" word when they describe the balance, for example, but they very well know its a very raceable machine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by luisgutierod View Post
    They should come up with a new range of bikes, all their dual susp ones were fire sold.
    A bike with more than ~170mm of travel loses "the one bike" concept (one you can race, huck, fool around and get lost on a trail)... we all know that the bros never put the "E" word when they describe the balance, for example, but they very well know its a very raceable machine....
    People said the same thing with 160mm but the Balance is an awesome trail bike you can race. So I'm at least curious about this bike....even though I'd be happy with a Balance that can take 29er wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus75 View Post
    People said the same thing with 160mm but the Balance is an awesome trail bike you can race. So I'm at least curious about this bike....even though I'd be happy with a Balance that can take 29er wheels.
    This. Sign me up.

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    200?

    Well sign me up too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus75 View Post
    People said the same thing with 160mm but the Balance is an awesome trail bike you can race.
    True, but combining Chris's hints of 200 mm travel, option for 27/29, racing his balance all year with a dual crown, and the fire sale on Jedi frames (which I took full advantage of thank you Bros!) leads me to believe those hints are all directed at a Jedi replacement.

    While the CBF suspension really is amazing, 200 mm of travel still has some drawbacks when the trail points somewhere other than straight down. My '17 balance is a far better all around bike than my '13 The One, even if it isn't quite as plush and bottomless feeling.

    And while those 2 bikes have different wheel size, chainstay lengths, and linkage designs that don't make for a perfect apples to apples comparison, 200 mm of travel still generates a lot of sag/head angle slackening on steep seated climbs (even more so for us tall riders with very long legs). And 200 mm of travel has a lot of sag to overcome when trying to loft the bike up/over obstacles at lower speeds (i.e. trying climb up a trail with stair step ledges).

    I think a 200 mm CBF bike could be a replacement for the Jedi as well as cover the niche that The One used to fill (pedal friendly FR/Mini DH), but won't have the all around trail manners of the 165mm Balance.

    If I recall correctly, the carbon Riot/Toir was delayed til later in '18 due to some clearance issues. I have to believe there is at least one other bike in works if the current aluminum models that were/are being closed out won't be returning to the lineup.

    Lots of speculation and anticipation, but I'm sure whatever the Bros have cooking will be amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twd953 View Post
    True, but combining Chris's hints of 200 mm travel, option for 27/29, racing his balance all year with a dual crown, and the fire sale on Jedi frames (which I took full advantage of thank you Bros!) leads me to believe those hints are all directed at a Jedi replacement.

    While the CBF suspension really is amazing, 200 mm of travel still has some drawbacks when the trail points somewhere other than straight down. My '17 balance is a far better all around bike than my '13 The One, even if it isn't quite as plush and bottomless feeling.

    And while those 2 bikes have different wheel size, chainstay lengths, and linkage designs that don't make for a perfect apples to apples comparison, 200 mm of travel still generates a lot of sag/head angle slackening on steep seated climbs (even more so for us tall riders with very long legs). And 200 mm of travel has a lot of sag to overcome when trying to loft the bike up/over obstacles at lower speeds (i.e. trying climb up a trail with stair step ledges).

    I think a 200 mm CBF bike could be a replacement for the Jedi as well as cover the niche that The One used to fill (pedal friendly FR/Mini DH), but won't have the all around trail manners of the 165mm Balance.

    If I recall correctly, the carbon Riot/Toir was delayed til later in '18 due to some clearance issues. I have to believe there is at least one other bike in works if the current aluminum models that were/are being closed out won't be returning to the lineup.

    Lots of speculation and anticipation, but I'm sure whatever the Bros have cooking will be amazing.
    Hope it will be amazing and risks are calculated. You simply cannot drop from your line up a bike in the 160-170mm travel bracket + mid wheel size...
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    200mm One 2.9(er) Would be a very interesting & innovative release. What's the longest travel non-DH fork now? 170mm I think.

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    He did say it's not a 29er the one or 29er jedi when I brought that up. So it's a whole new beast

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    At 200mm I want to know how it behaves. I haven't ridden a lot of different CB set ups. But have tried a Riot,Balance and Jedi. All of them were very manuvrable and pedaled good, even the Jedi didn't suck under human power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    He did say it's not a 29er the one or 29er jedi when I brought that up. So it's a whole new beast

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    Heh - call it the Canfield Two then ( C2 for carbon) . 200mm 27.5 (+?) or 200mm 29er - two bikes in one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by twd953 View Post
    True, but combining Chris's hints of 200 mm travel, option for 27/29, racing his balance all year with a dual crown, and the fire sale on Jedi frames (which I took full advantage of thank you Bros!) leads me to believe those hints are all directed at a Jedi replacement.

    While the CBF suspension really is amazing, 200 mm of travel still has some drawbacks when the trail points somewhere other than straight down. My '17 balance is a far better all around bike than my '13 The One, even if it isn't quite as plush and bottomless feeling.

    And while those 2 bikes have different wheel size, chainstay lengths, and linkage designs that don't make for a perfect apples to apples comparison, 200 mm of travel still generates a lot of sag/head angle slackening on steep seated climbs (even more so for us tall riders with very long legs). And 200 mm of travel has a lot of sag to overcome when trying to loft the bike up/over obstacles at lower speeds (i.e. trying climb up a trail with stair step ledges).

    I think a 200 mm CBF bike could be a replacement for the Jedi as well as cover the niche that The One used to fill (pedal friendly FR/Mini DH), but won't have the all around trail manners of the 165mm Balance.

    If I recall correctly, the carbon Riot/Toir was delayed til later in '18 due to some clearance issues. I have to believe there is at least one other bike in works if the current aluminum models that were/are being closed out won't be returning to the lineup.

    Lots of speculation and anticipation, but I'm sure whatever the Bros have cooking will be amazing.
    This is the most sensible response this thread has seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    This is the most sensible response this thread has seen.
    Yeah... but... somehow I doubt the "hints" that Chris is dropping are reliable.

    I think we're being trolled to keep the hype going...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRage43 View Post
    Yeah... but... somehow I doubt the "hints" that Chris is dropping are reliable.

    I think we're being trolled to keep the hype going...
    Definitely some hype generation going on, but I'm not seeing any inconsistencies in the hints in relations to a 200 mm bike.

    Looking back at the Leogang thread you can see the Vital video of Isak Leivsson riding the prototype that I am hard pressed to tell the difference from a Balance (linkage and rear triangle), and Isak confirmed on IG that is was 8 inch travel, so not just a Balance with a dual crown. That dual crown looked to be a standard Fox 40 (i.e. 27.5) as opposed to a 49, so that neither confirms or disproves that it will be both 27.5/29 compatible, but I don't think the 49 forks were widely available at that point.

    I'm fine with the hype, I added two Canfields to the stable in 2017, so I've got plenty of time for the Canfield lineup to solidify before I'm back in the market.

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    So nobody saw Chris's post on Facebook yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drLEE View Post
    So nobody saw Chris's post on Facebook yet?

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    not interested in a dH bike at the moment, but like I said, there has to be a Balance replacement/upgrade..
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    Sean just said to me yesterday-
    that it could be the fastest bike we have ever built.
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    The 2018 bikes...

    Dang Iím torn. Finger is on the trigger to purchase a clearance 2017 EPO but part of me is curious whatís on tap for 2018 too


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    Hmmm, Transition just announced a carbon Sentinel. Anyone ridden one of those (Alu version) and a Riot/Toir?
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    I have and brother the Sentinel is no where near the league of a Canfield bike. Transition is hurting right now for a reason. You can't make minor tweaks to the tried and true horst pivot and charge big S prices with Walmart aesthetic and expect success. I'm enjoying my Canfields and will wait for whatever the next two frames are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennW View Post
    Hmmm, Transition just announced a carbon Sentinel. Anyone ridden one of those (Alu version) and a Riot/Toir?
    Transition bikes don't pedal as well or eat the bumps as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madamfunk View Post
    I have and brother the Sentinel is no where near the league of a Canfield bike. Transition is hurting right now for a reason. You can't make minor tweaks to the tried and true horst pivot and charge big S prices with Walmart aesthetic and expect success. I'm enjoying my Canfields and will have wait for whatever the next two frames are.
    I think the reason they "might" be hurting. I cannot see how with all the press and sales the patrol got. Would be that they kinda painted themselves into a corner with the whole new fork offset stuff. The market is so saturated with "the next big thing and new standard" bs people do not want to invest in another grand idea that might be dead next year. I know quite a few people that have said they wonder if it is any better but would not pay brand new big bike company prices to find out. So I think sales might hurt for a bit. It's like cannondale and the lefty thing. Having part specific combinations never ends well for anyone other than the diehard fanboys.

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    I see the comments on PB now. I'll go back to waiting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennW View Post
    I see the comments on PB now. I'll go back to waiting...
    Yeah, it would be worth trying out. Iím still patiently waiting on the updated carbon Riot, but seeing this new bikes released is so hard. The carbon Sentinal looks pretty sick, but like hitechredneck stated, itís yet another new (unproven) geo being tossed at us. Not sure if being an early buyer is the best on this one, but who knows.

    Iíll say this...Iíve been a 29er fan for a while. Last year I rode the carbon Scout and that bike blew my mind. What a blast. In saying that, here I am still rocking the ole trusty riot. 2018 will be a fun one.

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    So its 2018....Whats coming out?

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    Alloy carbon everything

    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    So its 2018....Whats coming out?
    Apparently a lot. Carbon alloy ohlins toptube shock linkage..

    Saw that instagram post from Chris (sorry I cannot paste here now).. raw alloy dh or long travel beast with big ohlins Coil shock, with a sticker that reads Form in the inner of the seatstay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by luisgutierod View Post
    Apparently a lot. Carbon alloy ohlins toptube shock linkage..

    Saw that instagram post from Chris (sorry I cannot paste here now).. raw alloy dh or long travel beast with big ohlins Coil shock, with a sticker that reads Form in the inner of the seatstay...
    Wait that just looks like a Jedi.

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    this is the only time I have thought about getting a instagram account. Oh well guess I will just keep waiting till something is posted here or elsewhere on the net that I do not need a account to see.

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    YES but c'mon... stop teasing ; )
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    I have never ridden a Canfield. I'm far from being a Canfield Fanboy after some very mixed reviews over the Jedi. However, a 29er DH sled is very intriguing to me. The de-coupling of the drive-train and suspension makes sense and seems like it would work well. I'm not going to pretend that I understand all of the intricacies of brake/suspension kinematics, but it seems like this would essentially perform like a single pivot. In the little graphic explaining how the suspension works, you can see that the brake mount is rotating forward, something that Trek's ABP and Specialized's FSR attempt to prevent. That's not to say that it doesn't work well, it's just not adhering to the snake oil that others are trying to push. The other thing that seems really unusual to me is the extremely short chainstays of the current Jedi, Balance and Toir. After riding a bunch of bikes with different lengths, its always seemed like 435 was right about the sweet spot for me to be able to yank the front end up in shitty situations while maintaining some front to rear wheel weight bias. This bike could be a real contender for me. I ride Mountain Creek and Blue Mountain a lot and those places kick the crap out of bikes. I've been told Canfields hold up really well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrederickEngineering View Post
    I have never ridden a Canfield. I'm far from being a Canfield Fanboy after some very mixed reviews over the Jedi. However, a 29er DH sled is very intriguing to me. The de-coupling of the drive-train and suspension makes sense and seems like it would work well. I'm not going to pretend that I understand all of the intricacies of brake/suspension kinematics, but it seems like this would essentially perform like a single pivot. In the little graphic explaining how the suspension works, you can see that the brake mount is rotating forward, something that Trek's ABP and Specialized's FSR attempt to prevent. That's not to say that it doesn't work well, it's just not adhering to the snake oil that others are trying to push. The other thing that seems really unusual to me is the extremely short chainstays of the current Jedi, Balance and Toir. After riding a bunch of bikes with different lengths, its always seemed like 435 was right about the sweet spot for me to be able to yank the front end up in shitty situations while maintaining some front to rear wheel weight bias. This bike could be a real contender for me. I ride Mountain Creek and Blue Mountain a lot and those places kick the crap out of bikes. I've been told Canfields hold up really well.
    Fredrick-

    Ride one with the right spring weight for you, and you will never be the same.
    Rearward travel means sag at the same area of a 435mm chainstay bike.

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    D-1? Is that some secret code name or does it mean that the announcement is coming tomorrow?

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    So good- and no
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    That's Just pure cold man! Very cold!

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    its about time...
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    I miss the YS!
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    So, how long are we going to go with no Bikes available in Large and XL? Canít even buy a 2017 any more.

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    Will you be riding it this weekend, Chris?

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    Frida Ronning just posted this. I can't tell if it's 27.5 or 29. It would be sick if they had a 29DH bike available for this summer. The 2018 bikes...-dh.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrederickEngineering View Post
    Frida Ronning just posted this. I can't tell if it's 27.5 or 29. It would be sick if they had a 29DH bike available for this summer. Click image for larger version. 

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    Pretty sure thatís just a Balance with a dual crown fork...

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    That's no balance..... I think that is the Norwegian uncle.

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    Iím no expert, but that doesnít look Carbon

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    Definitely different than the 2017 Balance!

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    Definitely not a Balance. I'm over my carbon phase so hopefully they will keep an aluminum version, raw of course.

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    Thatís a proto


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    The Gusset is bad ass!

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    I agree I wish I had one on either of my bikes.

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    I came in here to see if there was any word on this 200mm bike. All I see here is porn that's a nice looking bike.

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    Didnt notice the gusset at first, damn thatís badass

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    so, not only 1 new bike...
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    I really hate waiting!

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    yeah, been looking everywhere for this to drop now that the pictures are out and nothing 🤬

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